Defying your commanders

[Herne]

What happens if someone doesnt listen to their commander? And starts doing stuff on their own defying everyone and everything?

[OmnipotentKiwi]

1. Nothing
2. Commander kicks them from the squad
3. Someone in the squad kills them (no grief for killing squad mates).

[Fire_Monkey]

He pretty much covered it.

Nothing = stupid
Ban from Squad= smart
Kill= short term solution

That would be funny to walk up and see a bunch of squad mates from another faction killing each other.

[NeoTassadar]

I missed that little bit of info before. SWEET! Now we can train outside of VR or combat (when we are just trying to get a feel for how we work).

[RCB_Ghost]

Originally posted by OmnipotentKiwi
3. Someone in the squad kills them (no grief for killing squad mates).

So then the age old question, "what happens if you crash a fully loaded galaxy? how man grief points?" doesn't apply if the galazy is full of your own squad?

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by RCB_Ghost
So then the age old question, "what happens if you crash a fully loaded galaxy? how man grief points?" doesn't apply if the galazy is full of your own squad?
Correct

[1024]

Originally posted by RCB_Ghost
So then the age old question, "what happens if you crash a fully loaded galaxy? how man grief points?" doesn't apply if the galazy is full of your own squad?

exactly, jeez, that question was a female dog to get people to answer. I finally just found it on one of the fan sites, but wasn't sure if it was true. Now i know though. Thanks.

[Streamline]

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[simba]

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[Zatrais]

What if the people in your galaxy isn't in squad? It can happen often when you're doing taxi runs... You'd get the greif points then if you crash..

Maybee theres special rules for aircraft or something hehe.. damned if i know.

[Diego]

Aww man that poor kid...

Thats just.. Ughh man I'd beat the hell out of my dog if he did that..

Just.. Ugh ... Wrong... =)

-Diego

[Incompetent]

boot em out of your squad

as for the Galaxy, i would imagine they have a cap on how many grief points you can get with just one action

[Hamma]

They talked about this in our AGN interview if I am not mistaken. They did some things to prevent you from getting insta-banned if you crash a galaxy full of people not in your squad. Because in the early days, crashing a galaxy fully loaded meant you were gone right away. :lol:

[NeoTassadar]

Might have to sit it out for a day or two, though.

[DarkDragon00]

Terran Elite Airborne Regiment

PWNED that dirrty as hell.

...CRASH GALAXY...GET BOOTED...COME BACK IN A WEEK...DO IT AGAIN..!

-Dark- CO [TEAR]

[Euroclydon]

Can you actually crash your ship into something to blow it up, or by "crash" do you mean get shot down? Because if it's shot down, the pilot shouldn't get any grief points (and probably doesn't. excuse my misunderstanding). If you can crash it by bad piloting skills (or a silly attempt to grief your passengers), I can see where grief points could be handy. But on the other hand, can't you just jump out if you don't like how your pilot is flying? Since you can jump out, I don't think grief points would be necessary at all for crashed airships.

[Gauntlet]

Back on the topic of the post...

What if I don't want to follow the orders of some numbnuts when I join the server? I mean seriously, I am the very definition of the casual gamer type, and some days it isn't about following orders.

For example, when T2 was new, I joined up and some moron was yelling in that silly voice comm at me to do something for him. First of all I didn't even know the guy, second, I was doing something else (more worth while I might add) and I quickly learned to mute that entire voice comm option.

So let's take this situation to planetside. I join up, still pretty new to the game, and want to try out a new role or better yet "f" around. But this "Commander" (not made to that rank by me) starts harpin on me to do something else. I refuse and he kicks me from the squad? Seriously folks, it is gonna get old quick, if everytime someone who is normal infantry joins the server and instantly gets bossed around by some "commander" that plays the game way too much, and judges his life by how many bases he takes in a given day.

Where does this system take into account the person that isn't some hardcore gamer. Now before people start bashing me for not being a team player, I have plenty of online gaming experience leading and following in various games. I also will try to help my team in a pub, but how I want to help, not because someone tells me what to do.

[Hamma]

If you want to run around and do your own thing you will die. That will get old after a while and you will join a squad :P

[FraBaktos]

Gauntlet you can be a "lone wolf" but that would suck. You would just get your ass kicked by enemy who is smart enough to have a command structure. If you don't like taking orders, why don't you become a commander? Or just don't join a serious bunch of players. If you wanna screw around, join up with some people who want to do the same. You aren't forced to do anything.

[Euroclydon]

Originally posted by Gauntlet
Back on the topic of the post...

What if I don't want to follow the orders of some numbnuts when I join the server?

Squads are pretty small groups of people, so you're likely to find a lot of different squads if the commander of one is annoying you. You could also become a commander of you own squad, and side step the problem of listening to people by making people listen to you. :)

You don't have to always be in a squad either, I suppose. But since this is really a team oriented game, your best bet is to find someone who is a cool commander that you don't mind listening to (or understands you don't always like being told what to do and will let you use your own judgement for how you're most useful in a battle), and then join this guy's outfit so you can always have the same commander in battles.

[AeoNELiTe]

yeah but then the other side... what about the morons that will purposely crash Galaxies if they don't get any grief points?

[Euroclydon]

Well, say they do get grief points for crashing a galaxy full of unsquaddies. Then what about the pilots who just fly around in circles around their sanctuary or something just to annoy their passengers? It's the same kind of thing. You have the ability to prevent being annoyed any longer by jumping out. You also have the ability to jump out of a galaxy before the pilot crashes into something (in most cases anyway).

[IDgaf]

Unless a commander is dealing with total newbs, he'll just give out basic orders and then leave invididual players to come up with tactics.

That's partially how a lone wolf can operate. He can work within the commander's 'don't give a damn, just get it done' framework and meld it suit him.

ANyway, that's what I reckon.

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IDgaf.

[Gauntlet]

Ok, Hamma's post typifies the response I expected. Thanks and moving right along...

I am not saying I want to be some renegade force that just walks aimlessly around doing nothing for anybody. What I am saying is, some days online gaming just isn't about winning or capturing or anything, it is just about burning off some of my free time having FUN which doesn't necessarily mean doing anything overly productive in game.

Based on the answers so far, if I was in the above stated mood, I should not even attempt to load up PS because everyone on there is going to take it too seriously all the time?

Dang.. I had a whole response to Hamma's statement, but after proofreading it was more abrasive than arguementative. My point here is not to pick a word fight, just to get a feeling for how most people view this upcoming game. And to see where the guy that just wants to play, not for social worth, but for fun fits in to the big picture.

[Euroclydon]

Hmm.

Well, I think we'll have to see the game in action first. I'd imagine there will be a good number of people or squads that just group up and go attack something for the fun of it, not really with intentions of caping a base or doing anything productive. The commander then only exists because it's the structure required for the game, and you can kind of do what you want, die as much as you want, and maybe get a few kills in. :)

All of us on the forums are the people dying to get this game and, of course, understanding all the ins and outs of the game, and planning how we'll best use them. That doesn't include the hundreds of people who will just buy the game, load it up and play for the fun of it. I don't think you'll have a problem Gauntlet.

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Gauntlet, you probably won't be able to enjoy your time if you aren't in a squad. When there are 100 people on a field, you don't want to be there alone.

[Duffman]

wrong thread sry

[RCB_Ghost]

One thing to say to Gauntlet:

This games costs 15 bucks a month to play. It isn't the kind you buy for "lite gaming, to pass some time."

[Yogi]

Originally posted by RCB_Ghost
One thing to say to Gauntlet:

This games costs 15 bucks a month to play. It isn't the kind you buy for "lite gaming, to pass some time."

So P2P games aren't worth it unless you play 5 hours a day?

/me shrugs

[mikkyT]

yes they r yogi :)

if everytime someone who is normal infantry joins the server and instantly gets bossed around by some "commander" that plays the game way too much, and judges his life by how many bases he takes in a given day.


You dont have to be in his squad. You dont have to join a squad. And there is fun to be had not in a squad. Everyones tastes are different and Im sure you will find something you want to do.