New PC [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

Minigun

2012-07-12, 08:21 PM

1. What is your budget and does that include shipping/taxes?

$1000, no

2. Where do you live (Please list if possible town, state, and country)?

Lafayette, LA

3. What do you need this computer to do (like gaming, Photoshop, and so on)?

Gaming mainly, web surfing, MS office. The cpu I am currently on will be used for work and school related things

4. What parts will you need for the computer? Please list what parts specifically.

Tower only

5. Are you reusing any parts for this computer? If so please say what parts.

Negative

6. What kind of monitor/resolution do you have or want to get to use for the computer?

23'' 1440x900

7. Do you have a legit OS? If so what OS and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?

will be picking up win7 64bit

8. What are you looking for the motherboard to have feature wise? Like SLI, Crossfire, Firewire, USB 3.0, Sata 6.0 Gb/s, and so on.

Nothing particular unless recommended

9. Any plans to overclock the CPU or GPU?

Don't know much about it but if i can get $1600 worth of power out of a $1000 machine guess i could learn :)

10. What time kind of time frame are you planning on ordering these parts?

15-45 days

Vancha

2012-07-13, 05:29 AM

I'm not sure 1440x900 monitors exist at that size.

Case: Rosewill Future (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108)
CPU: Intel 3570k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504)
Mobo: ASRock Z75 Pro3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304)
RAM: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424)
GPU: Sapphire HD 7850 GHz Edition OC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102983)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green 1TB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148764)
ODD: This Samsung thing (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151255)
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 520W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030)

That leaves you with around $150ish to get a 19" 1440x900, which seems to be as large a monitor as you can get with that resolution.

It leaves you slightly overbudget (+$27.22), but if you bump this when you're ready to order we can repick parts based on whatever Newegg then has deals on.

vampyro

2012-07-13, 11:38 AM

Mobo:ASrock z77 extreme (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293)
Ram: Gskill 8gb (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314)
Case: Rosewill (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=5414526&SID=skim19668X770041X645696e66a37ae39492ac637493eb 8e4)
GPU: EVGA 670 GTX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782)
PSU: Antec Neo 620W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031)
CPU: i5 3570k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504)
HDD: Seagate 1TB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840)
Samsung DVD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151255)

You could get a smaller HDD and a better case like the Storm Enforcer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240).

Future upgrades could include SLI 670s and a better PSU.

Vancha

2012-07-13, 12:07 PM

Rbstr

2012-07-13, 12:31 PM

Why do you think he needs to buy the monitor? It says he only needs the tower.

I like Vampyro's choices but go with this motherboard to save bucks. I don't see any good reason to the fancy one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157297
Then go with this memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202
To bump you into DDR1600, because it's only $6 more compared to the G.Skill value stuff.

Lian-Li cases are on sale if you're looking for something more classy
This will be completely sufficient in the cooling department at stock speeds and even overclocked some: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112099
The others here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=LianLi0712&x=0&y=0

EDIT: Er you can go with Vampyro's memory too, basically the same thing.

Vancha

2012-07-13, 01:42 PM

Well that'll teach me to make builds in the morning...

As with Rbstr, I'd downscale the motherboard.

GPU: Get a Gigabyte or Asus 670, they're much quieter.

PSU: I doubt you'll need anything beyond 550w for a 670 + 3570k. I'd put the extra money into buying a better power supply of that capacity (a modular one, too), rather than getting a 600w+ one.

Minigun

2012-07-13, 06:44 PM

I'm sorry for not clarifying i wasn't really paying attention when i posted that. I have a HPw1907 monitor native 1440x900 its 19'' I'm not sure why i thought it was 23'' haha. Thanks for all the input so a 670 is the way to go? I was looking after being directed towards a 570 and down the road if i ever needed i could SLI being the cheapest upgrade. Unless you believe a 670 is superior I will take your word for it. I have a Tech guy from work who can tell me about all the parts listed and if they will fit and work and i also believe he gets some of them wholesale. I just wanted to have you guys opinions of what would be the best gaming rig for the money as you all are knowledge in the area of hardware options for gaming (He does more office style server builds). That being said if i can get a legitament list to bring to him i should be all set.

Thanks.

EDIT: I do have a 46'' Samsung that i occasionally hook up my current computer too for shits and gigs and may do the same with this new one.

Rbstr

2012-07-13, 07:00 PM

The 670 is much better than a 570. The 570 isn't a bad choice if you want to save the money. I have one and I don't plan on replacing it soon. There's also the AMD option at $350 that's decent.

Don't worry about "adding SLi in the future" as so many people seem to want to do. IF you're going to SLi, do it now or very soon in the future.
Any longer and your card starts to get out of date besides just raw power (new graphics technology, power usage and more).
Even then, you still have the opportunity to SLi with the 670.

Vancha

2012-07-13, 07:04 PM

The 670 will be kind of overkill for your resolution actually, but it does mean you can run everything on ridiculously high settings (that might be good for PS2 actually, considering what we've heard).

It's late here, but I'll put up a detailed list of stuff in the morning.

Goku

2012-07-13, 07:12 PM

Total waste of money on a 670 for that resolution. GTX 560 Ti 384 or 7850 is plenty.

Minigun

2012-07-13, 07:16 PM

Awesome I would love nothing more than to run PS2 at "ridiculously" high settings because when i was younger i was playing PS1 at 4-15fps on low. I'll go ahead with the 670. Getting me very excited to bring this list to my guy to put it together :). After i get a chance to look over all the builds posted and chose my options i'll give you my list for one last look over and the thumbs up. Thanks guys i really appreciate all of you going out of your way to help me out.

EDIT: I may upgrade my monitor in the future if you believe I'm on a slightly outdated resolution

Vancha

2012-07-14, 04:33 AM

Standard resolution these days is 1900x1080. If you plan to upgrade to that soonish, the 670 is ideal.

Edit: Proper list. Manufacturer codes in brackets...

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k - (BX80637I53570K)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 (Z75 PRO3)
RAM: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT)
GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 670 (GV-N670OC-2GD)
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB (HD103SJ)
PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO 550W (P1-550S-XXB9)
ODD: SAMSUNG Internal DVD Writer (SH-222BB/RSBS)

Case:
Rosewill CHALLENGER (11-147-153)* (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153)
Zalman Z9 (8809213762116) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235026)
Antec Gaming Series One Illusion (?) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129182)
NZXT Tempest 210 (CA-TP210-01) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146084)

*Might not be accurate.

Whichever one of those you prefer the look of...

Ganymede

2012-07-14, 08:08 PM

I support the 670 recommendation. But I will never support SLI, top of the line single cards can max any game out there like my 7970.

Minigun

2012-07-31, 06:46 PM

*bump* Going to order my new rig within 7 days. Going to go with Vancha's build. Any objections or suggestions?

Thanks.

Vancha

2012-07-31, 08:19 PM

There's probably some Newegg deals worth taking advantage of. I'll check them out tomorrow if no one's beaten me to it.

Goku

2012-07-31, 08:23 PM

*bump* Going to order my new rig within 7 days. Going to go with Vancha's build. Any objections or suggestions?

Thanks.

660 Ti is being released the 16th. Likely with a 660 priced around $250. Maybe worth waiting to see what the performance is.

Minigun

2012-07-31, 08:49 PM

Unless it directly affects how much the 670 will cost afterwards, I'm completely alright buying the 670. Considering I have not payed for upgrades in years It doesn't bother me to spend $150-100 more for the next tier. I would rather move towards the higher-end cards on this build anyways.

Besides when i have extra money laying around for too long I spend it on unimportant things >.<

Edit: That Rosewill Challenger case is the one I'm looking at. It also comes in a USB3.0 variant for $10 extra dollars. What are your opinions on that?

CHALLENGER-U3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060

Goku

2012-08-01, 12:55 AM

If you like go for it, looks like good air flow. However I think its ugly as hell. Never liked it due to that. Everyone has their own taste for cases.

Minigun

2012-08-01, 01:10 AM

If you like go for it, looks like good air flow. However I think its ugly as hell. Never liked it due to that. Everyone has their own taste for cases.

Some of the others just looked to bland, and then some of them were just a little too over the top. Seems like a decent medium but i can still always be persuaded.

Back to my question you may have missed it after looking at the case haha, To go with USB3.0 for $60 or the original USB2.0 for $50?

Thanks

Vancha

2012-08-01, 03:07 PM

I'd go with USB 2.0, unless you use your USB ports a lot for transferring data and such...

RAM deal (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313266) (promo code)

The HDD I recommended before also happens to have a good deal going for it at the moment (promo code), as does the PSU which has a promo code and a mail-in rebate, but I'm not sure how/if those stack...

Minigun

2012-08-01, 08:03 PM

Alright thanks, only thing i'm concerned about now is how tight of a squeeze that 670 is going to be. Got my IT guy to look it over. He said its not something he would build but I already knew that coming from his background. Other than that he said i was good to go. Going to pull the trigger by Friday, then sometime next week grab some beer and he's going to teach me how to slap it all together.

Thanks to everyone on this thread for all your input. I'll post up when she's finished.

Bags

2012-08-01, 10:56 PM

The 670 is really short, only 9" with a stock heatsink.

Minigun

2012-08-02, 12:39 AM

The 670 is really short, only 9" with a stock heatsink.

The one i'm looking at is just short of 11'' with 3 fans on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423

Bags

2012-08-02, 01:25 AM

The one i'm looking at is just short of 11'' with 3 fans on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423

I wish you luck, 15 1 star reviews ><

Vancha

2012-08-02, 06:10 AM

I wish you luck, 15 1 star reviews ><
All the cards with a decent number of reviews have at least 15 1-stars. What would you suggest is better?

Coreldan

2012-08-02, 06:16 AM

One star reviews are often people who got a component that was dead on arrival. While unfortunate, the warranty will always replace it.

Rbstr

2012-08-02, 09:47 AM

I wish you luck, 15 1 star reviews ><

Not that they all are, but review trolls are super common in any product with "fanbases"

Goku

2012-08-02, 10:26 AM

I wish you luck, 15 1 star reviews ><

If you want to get technical. Your 670 has a 11% 1 star reviews (8/73) of the total number and the Gigabyte has 11% (15/136). Seems pretty even. Best of luck :lol:.

Bags

2012-08-03, 02:51 AM

All the cards with a decent number of reviews have at least 15 1-stars. What would you suggest is better?

Really? Last I checked the one I had only had like 1 out of 20 or so. Guess it spiked up :p

Minigun

2012-08-10, 12:41 AM

All put together, blazing fast as far as processes and booting go. Downloading all my games tonight so I can see what she really does tomorrow.

Thanks alot guys, even my PC guy was like "Holy shit that thing is fast."

Time to go to sleep, too much beer and crown lol.

Minigun

2012-08-13, 06:08 PM

Sorry it took so long, but here's some pictures finally. Not the best cable management, maybe one too many beers >.< lol, but i can handle it for my first build. Still get plenty of cool airflow even under heavy loads.

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Runs great, haven't tried any benchmarks yet but BF3 plays wonderfully at ultra. Going to get into clocking the card soon. I was using this as a reference.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1265110/the-gtx-670-overclocking-master-guide

Is this how you guys also clock your cards?

Goku

2012-08-13, 06:13 PM

Looks great! Glad everything worked out during the assembly. If you can work on the cable routing at the bottom as you can improve you air flow if its all not just sitting there.

In regards to that guide it looks good. I haven't used a 600 series GPU, so I'm not that familiar with clocking those. However I don't really care for using Furmark or similar programs due to how much that over loads the card. I've seen plenty of people damaging their cards from that program. The 3DMark11 and Heaven looks good as that is what I use. Another way I hear is to go into a 64 man BF3 server everything maxed and see if it crashes or you notice any graphical glitches.

Minigun

2012-08-13, 11:09 PM

Thanks! Yeah I'll see if i can figure out a place to put all of those extra power wires, the picture doesn't do it much justice though as its really not obstructing any of the airflow pulling through the front fan lots of space on both sides.

Yet to see CPU temps hit over 60C and the GPU never does over 61C stock fan speeds.

While i was testing around with overclocking I actually found that stock the fan spins 40% (absolutely quiet)at load, when i cranked it to around 60% i could still barely hear it and even with a mild +41MHz clock it wouldn't go past 51C (+41 brought my boosted to 1100MHz).

Core:980MHz
Boosted:1059MHz
Kepler Boost: 1150MHz <--- Thought this was super cool

I ended with 1191Mhz with a +41MHz offset @ 51C, my benchmarks are not accurate though as I'm still running them at 1440x900. Going to keep it stock until i get my new monitor and I can do proper stressing on the card. If i can hit 1200MHz I'll be happy even if not 1191MHz seemed super stable.

Pancake

2012-08-14, 11:33 AM

Rbstr

2012-08-14, 12:51 PM

No real reason to spend the $5 if you're using a Sandy Bridge CPU. I recommend 1600 for Ivy most of the time, I think.

Vancha

2012-08-14, 03:45 PM

You my friend are a testament to the power of learning. I hope more new PC builders follow your example.

By the way, why does everyone recommend the G.Skill Value Series (1333) when the G.Skill Ripjaws (1600) are $5 more? Just curious.
The $5 doesn't really buy you anything. As far as I'm aware, calling the real-world performance difference of 1600 over 1333 "negligible" is overly generous at best.