View Full Version : Dice's counter to Planetside 2
Braveliltoaster
2012-07-14, 04:57 PM
Battlefield 2143 (NOT BATTLEFIELD 2142)
they could possibly turn this into a mmofps but I'm not sure if they will try for mass players or stick to the 64 player maximum.
discuss?
SgtExo
2012-07-14, 04:59 PM
Old game with old engine, and its netcode was bad, cause it was always so laggy even when i never had lag problems with other shooters.
haticK
2012-07-14, 04:59 PM
i dont see them making a MMO out of battlefield. the only real contender PS2 will have is Titan but im sure that will take another 10 years and it probably wont be free to play.
Braveliltoaster
2012-07-14, 04:59 PM
Old game with old engine, and its netcode was bad, cause it was always so laggy even when i never had lag problems with other shooters.
uh I'm talking about 2143 not 2142.
http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bf2142gamescreenshot2-600x450.jpg
Sure is dull colors in here.
NCLynx
2012-07-14, 05:00 PM
Old game with old engine, and its netcode was bad, cause it was always so laggy even when i never had lag problems with other shooters.
But he's not talking about BF 2142.
2143 could be a cool new release, I doubt it'll be a main competitor to PS2 though.
Braveliltoaster
2012-07-14, 05:01 PM
http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bf2142gamescreenshot2-600x450.jpg
Sure is dull colors in here.
that's 2142
im talking about 2143
infected
2012-07-14, 05:02 PM
dice only makes console games now.
NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-14, 05:03 PM
Old game with old engine, and its netcode was bad, cause it was always so laggy even when i never had lag problems with other shooters.
2142 was a great game, it was the best of the Battlefield series.
I never had a problem with lag.
SgtExo
2012-07-14, 05:03 PM
Lol, my bad.
2142 was a great game, it was the best of the Battlefield series.
I never had a problem with lag.
I liked it too, but i could never do the titan rushes because those killed my ping.
I really loved the hover tank and mechs.
EisenKreutzer
2012-07-14, 05:08 PM
What about Firefall? Seems like it could compete in the MMOFPS market.
Otleaz
2012-07-14, 05:14 PM
What about Firefall? Seems like it could compete in the MMOFPS market.
It is pretty damn bad. It is possible PS2 would be bad as well, but at that point I don't care who the competitors are.
helioN
2012-07-14, 05:16 PM
They won't counter PlanetSide 2.
EA and DICE is all about making rushed games for Call of Duty gamers now. I want to PlanetSide 2 because of the scale and more tactical approach. Something that DICE/EA can't offer me anymore.
2142 was the last decent Battlefield game, and the last one that could compete with PlanetSide 2.
From what i've seen so far PlanetSide 2 is going to be a king of massive FPS shooters for many years to come.
MayPeX
2012-07-14, 05:16 PM
http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bf2142gamescreenshot2-600x450.jpg
Sure is dull colors in here.
Leave 2142 alone, war isn't always about pretty colours. One of the best battlefield ever.
Do not compare battlefield to planetside, please they are two different games.
Top Sgt
2012-07-14, 05:17 PM
dice only makes console games now.
wow first time i totally agree with infected
he's right tho Dice is all about console games now.. PC is just an afterthought thrown together for some extra sales and the ability to say " hey we still make PC BF"
Dyson
2012-07-14, 05:18 PM
Is 2143 even a real thing?
EisenKreutzer
2012-07-14, 05:19 PM
It is pretty damn bad. It is possible PS2 would be bad as well, but at that point I don't care who the competitors are.
What makes Firefall a bad game, in your opinion?
Otleaz
2012-07-14, 05:23 PM
What makes Firefall a bad game, in your opinion?
Mostly the fact that the gameplay consists of grinding endlessly to advance.
helioN
2012-07-14, 05:24 PM
Is 2143 even a real thing?
Battlefield 4(2143) is under development as we speak, it's been confirmed by some Origin leaks today.
Still, Battlefield is now focused on satisfying Call of Duty type of gamers. Small maps and meatgrinders.
AThreatToYou
2012-07-14, 05:26 PM
Dude, 2142 was damn good. It's the only Battlefield I really, really loved, so its good to see them returning to it at least with 2143.
helioN
2012-07-14, 05:33 PM
Dude, 2142 was damn good. It's the only Battlefield I really, really loved, so its good to see them returning to it at least with 2143.
Yeah i guess you'll love the new smaller maps and explosives spam. Cause that's what you'll get.
The old DICE behind 2142 is GONE, they're all FIRED. Battlefield 3 looks like a sequel to a Call of Duty title, not Battlefield 2.
Pancake
2012-07-14, 05:38 PM
I wish Battlefield had not gone the COD way...
Fragmagnet
2012-07-14, 05:42 PM
Mostly the fact that the gameplay consists of grinding endlessly to advance.
That's because they don't have much content in right now.
and besides. Firefall is a different game.
It's not about massive battles.
Personally I'll be playing both.
TerminatorUK
2012-07-14, 06:11 PM
I love BF2142...always thought a Frostbite 2 based sequel wpuld be a big hit.
Titan mode was great fun and vehicle combat, AV weapons, walkers abd sniping were all ace.
In many ways (bar the lack of persistence and scale) the feel of the combat suprassed PS1 at times.
RSphil
2012-07-14, 06:13 PM
2142 was a great game, it was the best of the Battlefield series.
I never had a problem with lag.
was a cracker and i never had lag either. i still think the original BF Vietnam was the best. loved that game.
2143 would be a cool new game. spec with the new engine. destructible stuff would make it awesome. id say they could push it to 100 players maybe. but i dont think they would make an mmo.
helioN
2012-07-14, 06:16 PM
was a cracker and i never had lag either. i still think the original BF Vietnam was the best. loved that game.
2143 would be a cool new game. spec with the new engine. destructible stuff would make it awesome. id say they could push it to 100 players maybe. but i dont think they would make an mmo.
Battlefield maps are getting smaller and smaller, not gonna happen.
Shadow Blades
2012-07-14, 06:21 PM
2142 was a great game, it was the best of the Battlefield series.
I never had a problem with lag.
100% agree. As far as I'm concerned 2142 was and still is the best Battlefield they made.
RSphil
2012-07-14, 06:22 PM
Battlefield maps are getting smaller and smaller, not gonna happen.
i wouldnt say they are getting smaller as the other expansions have some of the biggest maps in bf3 atm. all depends on if they listen to their fans. which they wont lol
helioN
2012-07-14, 06:27 PM
i wouldnt say they are getting smaller as the other expansions have some of the biggest maps in bf3 atm. all depends on if they listen to their fans. which they wont lol
I don't really want to pay for one big map. Armored Kill looks average too.
DICE keeps lying to the fans, Caspian Border is bigger than El Alamein according to them, which is completely untrue.
It takes few a seconds to get to the enemy spawn with a jet, you can even see it from your own spawn.
Battlefield is dead and i'm happy that PlanetSide 2 came to the rescue.
Battlefield 3 maps are tiny compared to 2142 and BF2 maps.
SixShooter
2012-07-14, 06:36 PM
BF 2143 would be cool but I really doubt that they would make an MMO out of it. I guess it could be competition for PS2 if you consider that any FPS can be counted as competition. There is no competition in the MMOFPS category since none others exist in the way that PS2 does (or even PS1).
Neurotoxin
2012-07-14, 06:51 PM
Wake me up when a FPS that isn't Planetside has at least 400 players on a single map.
Mishap
2012-07-14, 06:58 PM
Battlefield & Planetside are 2 completely different games. yes they are both FPS but all you fanbois need to stop banging on DICE. if DICE or EA were to announce a MMOFPS then you could start on them but they are not really into MMO. Why not start on COD for not having an MMOFPS? all i hear is DICE DICE DICE. if anything it sounds like some of you are worried DICE might actually make an MMOFPS. (i dont think they will anytime soon). as for 2143 it is atleast 2 years away. so planetside 2 will be well and truly entrenched in gamers minds by then.
PS: i think DICE/EA failed with BF3.
RSphil
2012-07-14, 07:09 PM
I don't really want to pay for one big map. Armored Kill looks average too.
DICE keeps lying to the fans, Caspian Border is bigger than El Alamein according to them, which is completely untrue.
It takes few a seconds to get to the enemy spawn with a jet, you can even see it from your own spawn.
Battlefield is dead and i'm happy that PlanetSide 2 came to the rescue.
Battlefield 3 maps are tiny compared to 2142 and BF2 maps.
i dont play bf3 anymore anywy. to omany servers with stupid rules on and only ever play on 1 map. looking forward to planetside 2. its going to be a good change. the battlefield games have been going down hill for a while. im hoping planetside will be a good change.
Arovien
2012-07-14, 07:15 PM
If BF 2143 is just another 32on32 CoD clone, PS2 has nothing to fear. Even if it were 64v64, 2143 would have a long way to go.
Top Sgt
2012-07-14, 07:18 PM
Battlefield & Planetside are 2 completely different games. yes they are both FPS but all you fanbois need to stop banging on DICE. if DICE or EA were to announce a MMOFPS then you could start on them but they are not really into MMO. Why not start on COD for not having an MMOFPS? all i hear is DICE DICE DICE. if anything it sounds like some of you are worried DICE might actually make an MMOFPS. (i dont think they will anytime soon). as for 2143 it is atleast 2 years away. so planetside 2 will be well and truly entrenched in gamers minds by then.
PS: i think DICE/EA failed with BF3.
has nothing to do with MMO or not.. has to do with
Dice and EA make battlefield now for consoles period
PC version is ported and just thrown together
Classic case when a developer and publisher sell out to try and cash in more
And by the way I've played every BF game and mod ever produced since 2002 but the truth hurts they are all about console sales
Vash02
2012-07-14, 07:30 PM
wow first time i totally agree with infected
he's right tho Dice is all about console games now.. PC is just an afterthought thrown together for some extra sales and the ability to say " hey we still make PC BF"
This person clearly hasn't played BF3 on PC. Next time try to make a knowledgeable accusation instead of trying to act hip.
helioN
2012-07-14, 07:42 PM
This person clearly hasn't played BF3 on PC. Next time try to make a knowledgeable accusation instead of trying to act hip.
BF3's PC version is a nightmare, it's not even properly optimized. It's one huge memory leak. Keeps stuttering and stuff.
The whole game is a failure, we wanted a proper sequel to BF2, all we got is a Call of Duty ripoff with small maps.
"Not a tunnel game" - DICE. Look at Operation Metro hahaha. Small map made for RPG spam. Not even close to what Battlefield was used to be.
xnorb
2012-07-14, 07:43 PM
LOL !
As long as DICE is the toy of EA there's absolutely NOTHING they could
counter PS2 with.
A little bit bigger CoD with a future theme.
That's all DICE would be allowed to release these days.
EA killed BF.
Sad story, but that's what it's like ...
SKYeXile
2012-07-14, 07:45 PM
I care not for console ports. *moves along*
BF2142 was the best Battlefield to date. BF2143 will probably be amazing.
Remember this: someone still has to control the Titan. I am hopeful that this means a good chance for the return of the commander role, at least in Titan matches.
BF2143 maps will also be large. The size of the Titans and the ability to deploy from Titan launch tubes necessitate a large map. The maps feel smaller than Conquest maps because its easier to cross the distances, but they are still large maps.
I would throw my money at EA sight unseen for BF2143. Yes it will have destructible environments, but that is not the appeal for me. What I am looking forward to are the gorgeous graphics, new maps, and possibly different types of Titans.
No, BF2143 would never be an MMO. In an MMO the vast majority of the time a player is either severely outnumbered or is on a side that dominates because they have the most men. Neither is what BF2143 is about. BF2143 relies on both sides starting on an equal footing. The dynamic comes from the multiple ways for both teams to win, and in how each side places and uses the main pieces (Titans, APCs, etc). Titan mode provides something that conquest, tdm or domination mode cannot - it allows a well organised team who has been outplayed for the entire game to turn it around and snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat in the last second. That sort of tension relies on both teams being of equal strength.
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