View Full Version : Gonna be a little lame for a second
regisp
2012-07-15, 09:56 AM
I know I haven't been around long in this community, but I actually feel so much better since I joined these forums...
Y'all don't argue like children, and put down the other people for being "noobs", which calling their mother something.
I feel PS2 is gonna have a great community when it starts up, and that it is gonna be a trendsetter for others.
What do y'all think?
Solidblock
2012-07-15, 09:57 AM
Amen brother.
I honestly think everything about this game (including it's community) is groundbreaking.
basti
2012-07-15, 09:58 AM
noob <3
Pyreal
2012-07-15, 09:59 AM
:cheers:
Return evil for evil to no one.
noob <3
You mother something !
NoDachi
2012-07-15, 10:00 AM
You clearly haven't been in any buggsy or baneblade threads.
ruskyandrei
2012-07-15, 10:04 AM
Eh, I wouldn't go so far as to say the community is amazing, though I guess if you compare it to something like CoD it would seem that way :p
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NOOoooOOOooOOoooob.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I make no bones about it; I support PS2. Mock if you like but I can't hear you because I'm wearing my tin-foil hat, drinking the koolaid and waving my little flag.
Crator
2012-07-15, 10:11 AM
I think the PSU community is pretty good. And I also think the site admins have a lot to do with that. Is there an existing poll asking which community they think has the best community? That would be a cool poll to see I think.
Symmenix
2012-07-15, 10:17 AM
OMG! Haxer! That tank one shot me! Aw what a noob!
ThermalReaper
2012-07-15, 10:20 AM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
Fizzgig
2012-07-15, 10:21 AM
You clearly haven't been in the "tech test starting at 6pm" thread...
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
By all accounts APB was pretty bad.
regisp
2012-07-15, 10:24 AM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
Mine has gotta be a tie between the Runescape community (when I was younger, I played) and the League of Legends community. RS I don't remember much from except that people were all children and it was just...blaaaahhh.... But on LoL (Which I still play, actually just played today) the people are rude most of the time, even if you are nice back. But there was a post on a thread I made a while ago that sums it up, but I am too lazy to find it pics:
ThermalReaper
2012-07-15, 10:28 AM
Mine has gotta be a tie between the Runescape community (when I was younger, I played) and the League of Legends community. RS I don't remember much from except that people were all children and it was just...blaaaahhh....
Oh yeah, I forgot runescape. Man some parts of that game were amazing(Specially long quests like While Guthix Sleeps or Recipe for disaster).
Biggest example of community being demonic buttholes was Dungeoneering, good lord was that a massive waste of hype, time and kindness to insensitive "I play only for myself in a teamgame" egocenteric food hogging players.
Symmenix
2012-07-15, 10:32 AM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
RuneScape, could possibly have the best AND worst community ever. The people that tend to ruin it are the scammers, gamblers and spambots. Some people that play it are asses but you'll find that everywhere.
I've made loads of buddies playing RS.
Crator
2012-07-15, 10:34 AM
^^^ The truth! I've seen far worse people on PSU in the past, when site rules were more lax. It's not pretty! ;)
Symmenix
2012-07-15, 10:37 AM
Stupid nc smurf! i outta find yojhxftytkujhugdfghfytyjhmghjhrhbfsffdfsdrfevdvsfy ugghm
Biscuit
2012-07-15, 10:46 AM
Guys, this is not the Planetside 2 official forums, this is a FAN site. A heavily moderated one at that. Just wait until the official forums start up then you'll see the true metal of the playerbase.
^this
sure things maybe civil here due to majority of the crew here are well established, seasoned individuals.
but give it 3 months on the official website, and i bet you that some of the APB, COD, RS, mouth breathing meat bags will that the people here tried to escape from will congregate to one spot (the official forums) and stink up the place in no time.
Kriegson
2012-07-15, 11:04 AM
By all accounts APB was pretty bad.
Probably one of the most rage inducing games I've ever played, such a loss of amazing potential. And yeah, the community is just...constant flame war.
Guys, this is not the Planetside 2 official forums, this is a FAN site. A heavily moderated one at that. Just wait until the official forums start up then you'll see the true metal of the playerbase.
That being the case I'll gladly stick to PSU thank you very much.
Flaropri
2012-07-15, 11:05 AM
What do y'all think?
shut up n00ewb, im rite and you're wrong!
(just wanted to give you a feeling of familiarity :D )
Also, yes, when the community grows the number of vocal "bad apples" will no doubt exceed current levels. So will those that make constructive posts or funny posts, etc. Unfortunately, "bad apples" tend to distract people, make more lasting impressions, etc. For example, I used to play LoL a lot more, and the VAST majority of people I played with were awesome, but I don't remember most of their names, while I can still remember a lot of the jerkasses.
Littleman
2012-07-15, 11:20 AM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
Mabinogi was bad, because it was all kids that would say their piece without offering anything to back up their "facts." But then I found the Aion community, where you had rifters blinded to the fact they were literally squeezing out the lifeblood of their own game firmly believing that rifting was THE PvP scene (not the abyss) despite the Korean devs themselves stating they never intended for rifting to be the primary method of PvP.
Then I found TERA, where before the game was even released, the most egoistic and self-absorbed (not to mention INSANE) people I could have ever had the displeasure of communicating with had to chip in or taking each any every sentence, separating it out, then responding to each with a full on paragraph or two (or three.) One in particular insisted most thread starters to use search if the topic even so much as had peep in another thread... MONTHS ago. Necroing wasn't looked too well upon either. A very welcoming community indeed...
So far, I have found only ONE person on this forum that goes through the whole point-by-point response process ad nauseum, and this game is so close we can taste it. That says something.
Factor in that even the RP community of TERA seems to have for the most part splintered itself into it's own little cliques (guilds,) and really, the community amounts to $#!% over all.
There's no difference between P2P and F2P communities anymore. Ours is an FPS community however. The only time commitment based rewards we have in PS2 are certifications.
Coincidentally, I realized why MMO providers don't usually provide RP servers anymore: if players are just going to RP within their own guilds, there's no need to publicly enforce RP rulesets!
Electrofreak
2012-07-15, 12:01 PM
OMG, OP is a lame-o noob and his mother is fat.
Parts of this community, including myself, are nearly a decade old now. I started posting on these forums back in 2003 with the launch of the first PlanetSide. Suffice to say, the community wasn't always as mature as it is now (myself as guilty as the rest) and at times it still can be pretty stupid.
Just to give you an idea, I used to have such a hatred for another poster on these forums that we both nearly got banned from a convention we attended with the website staff and PS1 devs (PSUMA in Orlando Florida). During the convention we were kept physically separate to keep us from going at eachother's throats. A year or two later, we finally sorted out our differences.
A lot of the original trolls on this forum are gone; banned or just disappeared. Perhaps those that left grew up, or just found somewhere else to be unwanted. I'd like to think the former... 9 years is a long time and a lot of us started out gamer teenagers and now own homes and have kids of our own.
I see a lot of new faces on the forums, and for the most part, people are pretty civil. Of course there are some heated debates, but the Mods have been doing a decent job keeping things under control, and the community itself does seem pretty solid.
That said, sometimes I feel like arguing with people on PSU is like banging your head against a brick wall; it's painful, accomplishes nothing, and in the end you feel a little dumber for the effort.
wraithverge
2012-07-15, 12:09 PM
I think it's mostly due to the age bracket that this game attracted and who still play. After so long you just realize it's easier to click back to the forum list then reply to people who are so obviously wrong or just jerks and just let the thread die. Not always, but it tends to keep the better threads near the top.
regisp
2012-07-15, 12:11 PM
That said, sometimes I feel like arguing with people on PSU is like banging your head against a brick wall; it's painful, accomplishes nothing, and in the end you feel a little dumber for the effort.
I'm pretty sure that goes for the whole internet (ie: Youtube, FB, and any other site that contains ways to communicate with other users).
Very well put :)
Ratstomper
2012-07-15, 01:37 PM
I make no bones about it; I support PS2. Mock if you like but I can't hear you because I'm wearing my tin-foil hat, drinking the koolaid and waving my little flag.
Don't all VS do that anyway? :)
EDIT: Worst community: LoL.
Fenrys
2012-07-15, 01:50 PM
Worst community: Diablo 2
Scammers, trolls, racists, and griefers - it's a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Planetside has a more thoughtful community than most, maybe because of it's age (for the same reason, you can meet some really cool people in Diablo 2, but it seems a lesser percentage).
Best community: Dwarf Fortress
wasdie
2012-07-15, 01:54 PM
People hate change, thus anything that they don't agree with is instantly "noob" or "causal" or "CoD influenced". It's really negative for the community to have that kind of a mentality. We don't want to come off as a bunch of elitists assholes to potential new players.
vVRedOctoberVv
2012-07-15, 01:59 PM
^this
sure things maybe civil here due to majority of the crew here are well established, seasoned individuals.
but give it 3 months on the official website, and i bet you that some of the APB, COD, RS, mouth breathing meat bags will that the people here tried to escape from will congregate to one spot (the official forums) and stink up the place in no time.
Meat bags? KOTOR much? :)))))))
Oh, and since this thread is about the "awesome community"
**RAVE! RANT! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE**
I'm done.
Rico Suave
2012-07-15, 02:06 PM
Meat bags? KOTOR much?
Good times, good times "Query: This "meatbag" is an incoherent babble of useless information. Can I shoot him?"
Sorry, off topic.
This community has been great.
IgloGlass
2012-07-15, 02:37 PM
I remember reading Totalbiscuit's like seven year old thread from when he quit the forum.. The community wasn't all that nice back then if I'm correct ;)
However there's still alot of newbie and noob-hate considering that a large population of the active members here are Planetside 1 veterans, though that aside I am growing more and more fond of this site each day.
Hamma
2012-07-15, 02:41 PM
You are correct IgloGlass, 9 years is quite a long time :)
Thank you everyone for the kind words. I think we have managed to keep things fairly constructive most of the time considering the massive hype this community is undergoing right now.
I wouldn't say we are heavily moderated though. We try to keep things clean and organized as much as we can.
GuyFawkes
2012-07-15, 02:48 PM
I remember reading Totalbiscuit's like seven year old thread from when he quit the forum.. The community wasn't all that nice back then if I'm correct ;)
However there's still alot of newbie and noob-hate considering that a large population of the active members here are Planetside 1 veterans, though that aside I am growing more and more fond of this site each day.
aah TotalBiscuit and Eliminatorr ..old times
Noivad
2012-07-15, 02:52 PM
Hmmmm - When the game comes out the number of people on the forums will drop. There will be - PS2 Beta Forums later PS2 Forums - Planetside Universe Forums - Outfit Forums - Alliance Forums and for some people, other forums for other interests, to read and write. Work - School - Family - Not much time left for game play if you read / write on all of those forums. The community will be in game fighting not writing on forums. :evil:
Hamma you have done a good job providing info on PS2 - Thanks
IceyCold
2012-07-15, 03:02 PM
Well, these boards are obviously full of good people.
Aside from the Vanu and Terran players of course.
JimmyOmaha
2012-07-15, 03:07 PM
Worst community recently was HoN - mostly because I was learning the game, and no one has patience for that haha.
Solidblock
2012-07-15, 03:31 PM
I literally found out about this game JUST after the e3 streams, I can't remember how I found Planetside 2 now. This is actually the first game I've ever, ever kept up to date with. I must be on the forums several hours a day. I find the community here amazing, although you get the few trolls. Referring to a few other comments, I think I'm here to stay, being 18 I hope I'll be here until I'm 28-30.
Edit:typo
Shinjorai
2012-07-15, 04:03 PM
I actually started a thread a while back about how we could keep the community at its best in the game because i think the same as you do OP that this is a great community. I think the reason like they said is because its been here nine years so its had time to grow and i think it comes from the fact too that the people here genuninely love the game and hamma and basti and all the mods here care about the work they do here. Its just a game but in a way its more.
Im just getting into this whole PS thing, never really played the first one but about a month but I had a game i played for about 5 years enemy territory quake wars that had one of the best communities ever and it was because of that thats kindve gotten me so excited about PS2. Its not the fact that the game has amazing graphics, or its free to play or that you can use all these vehicles and customize weapons and customize your avatar and this whole huge amount of options and ways to play. Its the fact that this community seems to genuinely love this game and that tells me right there its gonna be good.
Hell even the developers of the game are awesome, i was watching AGN last night and you know sitting there watching higby and clegg and all those guys in his office, it really doesnt feel like PR stuff,it kinda felt like you were hanging out with friends or something. Even those guys seem to care about the game, and not just in that fake ass corporate we makin money kinda way/
So i think theres a lot of hope PS2 will have one of the best communities ever. Even on the official forums. Because of the established community as a foundation that will weed out most of the trolls.
As far as the worst communities, you already said dont list COD, we all know that ones bad but WOW, and BF3 i think have the worst communities. I still play BF3 and even though the game itself is fun i end up cussing at the top of my lungs about half the time because of people doing stupid shit or being rude/immature for no reason. Maybe im just getting old and cant be bothered with all that bs anymore but my patience has worn thin for it. Im kinda worried im gonna end up becoming one of those people one day haha. There was this one guy on COD MW2 me and my buddy were playing with. Long story short this guy got so pissed because we were kicking his teams butt he starts screaming into the mic about how he was gonna come to my friends house and kill his dog and murder his GF and burn his house down lol. Just sometimes i really think people forget games are supposed to be fun and take it waaaaaay too seriously. But I guess thats a sign of the times.
I got a good feeling about this community and PS2, plan to make it my game of choice for the next half a decade like quake wars was for me hopefully.
regisp
2012-07-15, 04:21 PM
I feel as if I will be around this community for a while as well. I come from different games that I stick to for years, but never have really been a big part of the community, other than maybe 2 games (Rift and RS).
In a way, it feels like a stress reducing method to just be on these forums. Half the time I say nothing and just read the news and funny posts, and occasionally share my opinion where I think it belongs. I never see people jumping at others throats because of dumb stuff (if they do, typically it is well-deserved, cause we all know some people need to be screamed at sometimes haha).
Plus the main thing people are upset about is the beta not being sooner, but at least a good 80% will admit that they can wait because they know the game is going to be great, and SOE can take time to make it the best it possibly is (even though we ALL know that being in the beta is gonna be amazing :D).
Lorgarn
2012-07-15, 04:32 PM
How can you not have this sort of respectfull behavior when everyone around you is just, if not even more so, as passionate as yourself about PS(2). While we all have our own opinions, and rightfully so mind you, it doesn't mean that one needs to hate eachother. (<3)
We are all here for one thing collectively and so far we've managed to remember this. :)
Yes, this community is good.
Eyeklops
2012-07-15, 05:00 PM
Welcome to the community. :)
Y'all don't argue like children, and put down the other people for being "noobs", which calling their mother something.
No offense, but do you read the same PSU forums that I do? I love this community, but I will tell you its FULL of bittervets that HATE COD/BF3/anythingnotPS1. Do I mind this? Hell NO...they are comedy at it's finest.
How to start a thread, get flamed, and have a thread locked because people can't play nice:
1. Start a thread talking about how Battleframe Robotics should be in Planetside 2.
2. Start a thread saying you believe that a region lock to keep ping times down is good for the game.
3. Start a thread mentioning the words "dumbed down" about PS2 gameplay.
4. Start a thread that xyz feature from BF/COD should be added to PS2.
5. Start a thread where the second post is "In b4 lock."
Hamma does his best, and I admire all that he has done here, but this is a tough community with some deep set tunnel vision, and he doesn't have enough time in the day to deal with all the children.
Emperor
2012-07-15, 05:17 PM
So, a couple quick things:
1. Forums--even official forums--account for about 2% of a game's playerbase. If that seems low, it's because it is. The disparity between the amount of people who play a game vs. people who play a game, sign up for a forum, and discuss the game, is incredibly wide. Most consumers aren't actually aware of this, but 2% is the generally accepted average forum-to-playerbase statistic for every type of game, from FPS to MMO to RTS.
2. As someone mentioned before, this is a moderated fansite made up of veterans and people who have enough interest in the game to register and post. This is pre-launch; the vocal forum community's going to be a lot smaller (and more accountable with their posts) before the game is even out.
3. Planetside 2 is completely free to play. There are no barriers to entry; no box to buy, no subscription fee. FPS communities typically aren't the best communities. (Unless they cater to small, niche playerbases, like mods) And not to single out players of F2P games, but because there's no barrier they tend to be a lot less accountable, and more like, "I don't care if I'm disruptive or a jerk; the game is free. If they ban me I can make a new account." Just keep in mind FPS + free in-game isn't going to look how this community looks. You should fully expect nasally-voiced smacktalk and getting teabagged in PS2.
Neurotoxin
2012-07-15, 05:27 PM
I hope things don't get too bad. All ages, all demographics, everyone with the tech to run it and even some who don't, we'll see a ton of people.
We'll see a lot of players who get into PS2 and make it their new home for the next 10 years. A lot of happy long-term players is what I see in the future of PS2.
We'll also see a lot of bad players from modern FPS games, both terribly noobish and also being deplorable people in general. Hopefully we can shun them enough that they clean it up or don't stick around.
We definitely need to be vigilant about self-policing and reporting bad apples, we can't just leave it all on the GMs and Customer Support. A strong, healthy, active community will make it easy to sort the jerks and trolls from people who genuinely want to be a part of the PS2 community, and the game itself.
Darthkorr
2012-07-15, 05:33 PM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
SWTOR Forum users most horrible community ever. cried over everything.
Superbus
2012-07-15, 05:47 PM
SWTOR Forum users most horrible community ever. cried over everything.
To be fair the game was crap.
Exodan
2012-07-15, 05:59 PM
I've never understood the whole "lets be horrible to noobs" mentality. We were/are all noobs at some point. We can't be experts at a game instantly!
In most of the games I've played recently most noobs are welcomed in with open arms, nurtured and trained to be veterans and I'm hoping PS2 will have this kind of a community.
wigsplit
2012-07-15, 06:19 PM
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
I have been playing Counter-Strike since its beta in 1999 and been apart of their community forever. It is one of the main reasons I quit playing that game. It is by far the most immature community I've ever experienced every other person is a hater or troll it seems, every one is just out to screw each other over and they all roll in crews or packs.
You can never be the best or even considered good in cs because everyone is looking for how you perform on a daily basis in the game and don't care about what you have did or accomplished in the past. There's no sense of being a vet because the community is overran by kids who started playing the game 4 years ago, most of them are cod fan boys. These days kids just buy/scam low steam digits and act like they been around forever. The CS community are nothing but posers anymore. The planetside community is a whole different creature really and most people are cool as hell. I'm glad to be back into PS again.
Brusi
2012-07-15, 06:45 PM
By all accounts APB was pretty bad.
APB.
Cutthroat to the end. And then Cutthroat again once it raised from it's cuththroat 12 y/o's yelling, "yer mums a noob" ashes.
pity, cause it's such a fucken awesome game :D
StumpyTheOzzie
2012-07-15, 07:56 PM
It's the second best I've seen right after Spiral Knights. That game wasn't the best but the community were saints.
...Quick question, what's the worse community you've ever stumbled upon? Be creative and don't churn out CoD answers.
Mine: Global Agenda. The forums were ok, but the ingame community were the abosolute worse I've ever seen. Not helpful in anyway and always thinking that the problem is everyone else's fault.
Have to agree there. GA was a pretty cool game that could have been great with a few bits and bobs in it. Many more instance maps for example...
TF2 community would be my worst pick though. So many bungholes hooking up a (deliberately crap) music stream into their voice comms and no way to mute them!!!
Please devs, add in a mute option to PS2 voice comms!!!
NewSith
2012-07-15, 08:07 PM
CS and DotA Russian Communities. You will never EVER find a worse set of people. My favourite part is where they say that any players that are better than them (especially cybersport professionals) are noobs and they can easily take them all on one versus everyone.
StumpyTheOzzie
2012-07-15, 08:18 PM
CS and DotA Russian Communities. You will never EVER find a worse set of people. My favourite part is where they say that any players that are better than them (especially cybersport professionals) are noobs and they can easily take them all on one versus everyone.
That's funny... Whenever I'm better than someone, they always accuse me of cheating.
Best compliment ever.
Emperor
2012-07-15, 08:23 PM
TF2 community would be my worst pick though. So many bungholes hooking up a (deliberately crap) music stream into their voice comms and no way to mute them!!!
1. Don't join micspam servers. They're usually clearly labeled.
2. Press escape --> click Mute.
StumpyTheOzzie
2012-07-15, 08:24 PM
See? I had to come to the PSU community to find that out!!!!
TF2 = Worst people ever.
Braveliltoaster
2012-07-15, 09:37 PM
I know I haven't been around long in this community, but I actually feel so much better since I joined these forums...
Y'all don't argue like children, and put down the other people for being "noobs", which calling their mother something.
I feel PS2 is gonna have a great community when it starts up, and that it is gonna be a trendsetter for others.
What do y'all think?
most the the hatred that players have against each other is masked by factions hate so you really don't see, player X is a noob but see more of player X is a nazi TR scum!
but we mean it with sarcasm
The Red orchestra 2 forums can be a wiled place they seemed to love ripping up noobs, there were lots of good people in there but lots of people ready to take someone's head off for spelling something wrong or saying anything good/bad about the game :D
SztEltviz
2012-07-16, 03:12 AM
World of Tanks...
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