C&C Generals

[Yuyi]

OMFG I bought that junk that game is off the hizzle fo shizzle

[Hamma]

:huh:

[Squeeky]

the game sucks

[Yuyi]

Originally posted by Squeeky
the game sucks

:banplz:

[War Mongrel]

I haven't played it yet. Does it compare to the quality of Warcraft III?

[tmax]

i always get nuked...i hate it, everytime i ammas an army the nuke fallas and destrys everything

[Doobz]

In my mind, no RTS compares to Warcraft III at the moment.

Games that have giant weapons that wipe everything off the screen are incredibly annoying

[MrVulcan]

Ok... here I go again...

I like generals:

WC3 = major tactics and limited strategy
Generals = major strategy and limited tactics
*in the true sense of the words*

I did play WC3 for a long time, and it is a good game, but generals is more like starcraft than WC3, ... huge scale battles with 30 tanks and 50 inf per side in large battles, and no RPG elements *didnt like those anyway*

It is much different than any of the other westwood games, and truly is like starcraft in the way that it plays, and the way the units work, and I like battles with more than 3 elves and 2 ents vs 9 spiders :p


The super weapons:
There are not super weapons in this game, the nuke is about the strength of 2 nukes hitting the same spot in starcraft, if you let your opponent sit back and build up the 5-6 nukes that it takes to destroy 1 base *and arm them*, you deserve to get hit *no offence*, for the same price as 1 nuke, you can build a huge army, or an entire expansion to your base, plus the 5 min it takes to arm. The nuke also only destroys a small area *3 buildings max if you know how to build a base at all*
I am a very good china player, and I never build a nuke unless I have nothing better to do with my money :lol: they just are not worth it, I would much rather have a bunch of tanks with some light air cover for the same cost and time to build one nuke.

[MrVicchio]

As a member o fthe CC Generlas Beta team, I must say I completely dislike CC Generals. IT left a BAD taste in my mouth and I refuse to prchase this product.

Why?

Mostly because the way the CC:G beta was conducted, and the balance issues that as far as I know still remain.

[Squeeky]

it sucks :rolleyes:

[Maus]

good fun in my opinion, commache rush in first 5 minutes always takes em by suprise =)

if u want a proper strategy/tactical game, get Ground Control, perfectly balanced, v nice. The addons abit iffy tohugh, good story, hilarious balancing.

[MrVulcan]

lol, Comanche rushes, I make sure that I have a few chain gun tanks waiting for those :p, make about 40% chain gun tanks to 50% battlemaster to 10% overlord

1 chaingun tank can get 2 Comanche, and 3 can take down many many of them :p

Squeeky: Please state an opinion based on reasons, not just "it sucks", you are just restating what you already said, and giving no reasons for that.

MrVicchio at least said he thought there were major balance issues in the beta, and he is right, but they have done a complete revision of the game since then and fixed most of those issues... dont most betas have major balancing problems? :p Also keep in mind that many things that look like htose issues are truly our inibality to defend against a type of attack, not the game's balance. Ground Control is balanced because the 2 sids are very similar, the balance in a 3 way is much different. Look at starcraft, every day there were "balance" problems, then the next day it would be countered, and some other area would have "balance" problems. Some people say that the chopers are way to poweful, but try having a couple of chain gun tanks with you, etc. Not saying that there were not those issues in the beta, just stressing that most balance issues in a 3 way stragity game are not always clear.

And sure, it was conducted to fileplanet subscribers, but look at it this way: They are a failing company and beta cds cost lots of money, more bandwidth costs lots of money, or they can give it to fileplanet and let anyone that pays like 6$ have it. Some betas make you pay more than that for jst the cd anyways, I do not see a real problem here.

[Warborn]

Generals was aesthetically pleasing, but slim on the fun gameplay. I prefer Warcraft 3 a hell of a lot more, especially with the Frozen Throne expansion (which adds so much to the game).

[MrVicchio]

You really wanna riun the enemies day?

Load two Helos with rangers and land em in thier base.

Taht always fooks em up.

Or as the GLA make a tunnel near em...

Or, Hunker down as the USA, and use Auroras to stike em... that pisses people off.

[simba]

I never liked WC3, I would LOVE it if I could play it, cant win against anyone. I have read loads of strategy guides and newbie guides! Cant get anywhere, ive also checked around at a forum, people tell me to creep all the time, ALWAYS SCOUT and expand! I just think WHAT THE HELL? How tha hell can it be possible to do all that at the same time, I try to do that but then something goes wrong, its impossible!

I guess C&C is fun, sounds fun as hell, I loved starcraft, but at the minute I tried to play online I got TOTALLY OWNED,
not fun anymore, ive played RTS games all my life but at WC3 I stopped.

[MrVulcan]

Originally posted by MrVicchio
You really wanna riun the enemies day?

Load two Helos with rangers and land em in thier base.

Taht always fooks em up.

Or as the GLA make a tunnel near em...

Or, Hunker down as the USA, and use Auroras to stike em... that pisses people off.

Bah, easy to counter :p

1. Chain gun tanks (my fav tank, will destroy the choppers well b4 they can lower many people, and even if they can, they only last a sec or 2 vs chain gun tanks)

2. Scout (sight is critical)

3. Chain gun tanks (1 can kill 2 auroras b4 they can return if it has the chain gun upgrade) and auroras are hard to replace, where as chain gun tanks are a dime a dozen :p

and simba, it is all about speed and good micro management

[MrVicchio]

I can sendin a twin a ship of H46's fully loaded before you got your Chain Tanks going.

[MrVulcan]

willing to go head to head to see if thats so?

[Maus]

rocket pod upgrades completely owns on the commaches, ruins virtually any building u use it on when u got 2+ helis. Gatlings are annoying, but early on u can just waste em with crusaders, and chinese defence against early tank rushes aint too hot, cept for the AT soldiers, but a few rangers with flashbangs can deal with them.

One question, i was messing with the TNT for the AT soldiers, can they place it on the floor, like a demo trap, or just on enemy vehicles?

[MrVulcan]

just on enemy units and buildings

and you have to remember that the only way for china to defend is with its army, thats it... if you attack and lose all your force w/o takeing their economy out, or several main buildings, and china has any left, they win the battle, since they can recover faster than any other side *units build faster*

and I bulld 40% chain, 50% battlemaster and 10% overloard in the long run, keep in mind that the chain gun tank can kill a humvee 1-1 and same build time (2x cost) it also can hit air *not many tanks can* and is very good at anti inf *rocket dudes are no match* and the battlemaster can do a bit of dmg vs a crusader and the build time is much less, as well as cost is less. Also, once the chain guns get up to max speed, they can destroy a crusader at the same time that a crusader can kill a battlemaster :p

[BUGGER]

Well I played few C&C games but I must say......C&C: Red Alert makes my day....no other C&Cs match what it acomplished.

[MrVicchio]

Originally posted by MrVulcan
willing to go head to head to see if thats so?

IFI owned the game and not the beta...

MAYBE something changed in a patch, but that worled quite well all through beta for me.

[Squeeky]

the game sucks :rolleyes:

[Tobias]

I Think it is a so so game, but onething that bothered me was this, in single player I grab all the resorces right off, as soon as I have up a few turrets for D, and then after my rangers have all the oil rigs and I have a turret or two and a supply depot by all the docks I build up, but even with all those resorces it seems my enemys still gather faster then me, heck they can send waves of three or four tanks one after another without slowing for a moment, I dont gather near that fast. I have 2-3 choppers/trucks (dont play GLA) at each site, so what gives, how do I gather resorces at a normal speed? And is it just me or do the inf move really really slow?

[MrVulcan]

Tobias, if we play, ill show you my style to it since you can save the game to watch later, etc...

Ill admit that I do not play single much, I just do multi, but from what I can tell you is that if you can get 2 supply pts right off in the 1st few secs in the game, then work off those, you can keep building from 1 tank factory non stop and still expand your base. * if you get 3 you can do anything :lol:* have 2 choppers/trucks go to each at a time, more than that and it is a waste of money as they just wait there* now once you have build a bit of base guys right off, go through the tech, but take your time with the tech *ok, no too much time* but then do not build a bunch of high tier guys right when you get the ability to do so, instead start building a few hackers/drops for more money since the $ pts will run out soon. Keep on pumping base units through out the entire game though.

Most people get in trouble with building more than 1-2 turrets *waste of $* and trying to go up tier fast and pumping high tier units *run out of $* also, you must attack attack attack, this game does not let you defend well, no one can defend well, you must go offensive every chance you get. Also be sure that you can defend your 1st 2 supply pts b4 you get the 3rd and dont go for a 4th unless you have enough forces to cover all 4.

[dukeacem]

C & C is a lot of fun! Highly recommended as a game to hold over until PS or beta acceptance. In SG we have C & C tournaments even :D