Non-sniper infiltrators- with there be a TF2 spy-style role?

[Triforcer]

I love stealth classes but hate sniping (I can't even headshot non-moving targets most of the time).

Based on the information we have so far, will playing a close range infiltrator be viable? What I want to do is carefully stealth around the edge of a battle, get behind a few infantry firing in the opposite direction, and knife or pistol them from 5m away.

Obviously the game needs effective countermeasures if this is possible (stealth see-through or revealing talents, decloak noise, decloak turrets, etc.) but I am wondering if there will be a place for this in PS2.

[Sephirex]

They've mentioned that some of the better cloaks will disallow carrying a sniper rifle all together. So yes, I think there are plans for spy-type builds.

[EisenKreutzer]

The devs have talked alot about Infiltrator play not focused on sniping. You could cert your Infiltrator into a behind enemy lines stealth hacker, for example.

[IgloGlass]

When I describe the classes to people that have played TF2 but doesn't know anything about Planetside 2 I usually compare the classes in both games, however when it comes to the infiltrator I describe him as both the sniper and the spy in TF2 depending on your loadout.

The different classes might be able to serve different purposes but not nearly in the same way as the infiltrator will be able to.

[Aurmanite]

Ditch the sniper rifle for a pistol... gain unlimited cloak.

[Radant-J]

I sincerely hope so; I feel on par with you about hating sniping but loving knife-in-the-back gameplay up close and personal. Hopefully there will be plenty of options, as well as choices whether to use knives/pistols/mines etc

[Triforcer]

I wonder if there will be a "backstab" damage mechanic for an infil pistol or knife- if not, and its your standard pea-shooter, whatever class you are attacking will have enough time to turn around and blast you with their heavy-duty weapon.

[pengalor]

From some of the interviews and screenshots we have seen that the Infiltrator will have a melee focused build with much longer stealth (and stealth that makes you completely invisible) but your only long-range weapon is a pistol. Otherwise you are relying on knife, proximity mines, grenades, and the like.

I wonder if there will be a "backstab" damage mechanic for an infil pistol or knife- if not, and its your standard pea-shooter, whatever class you are attacking will have enough time to turn around and blast you with their heavy-duty weapon.

There is a cert line for Infiltrator that increases melee damage. Still probably won't 1-shot medium/heavy classes but light classes will probably be a 1 hit kill.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

I utterly hate TF2 spies. The good ones.

I'm hoping there's enough weapon spam that they all get accidentally killed.

[Death2All]

Hopefully no one-hit-kill back stabs. I really despise that sort of gameplay. Not very compelling or fun. I wouldn't mind the return of the AMP and the other standard assault pistols that made cloaking hilarious in PS1 though.


Also speaking of knives, it appears the knife in the current version of the game is a quick knife :(. Although it doesn't appear to be an instant kill.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

good... excellent.

I'll just role play in my mind that it's not a quick knife but a butt strike or bayonet instead.

[haticK]

I was curious about this too because I love playing stealthy but in a big game like this I'm not a big fan of sniping. Would be really fun sneaking around and being able to take out people pretty quick. I know tanks will have something where if the infiltrator gets close enough they automatically become visible.

[QuantumMechanic]

Yep stealthy cloakers will be in. My concern is the opposite... what if I only want to snipe and would rather have some sort of support equipment and camo armor rather than a cloak field? My idea of a sniper isn't a guy that looks an awful lot like spider man. There's little hope for that option though I think.

[SgtExo]

I hope that i will be able to put on red dot or reflex sights on semi auto snipers, add a silencer and that gives you a powerful infiltrator build. I liked doing that in BF3, so that i could go close up and lay down squad spawns. This sort of build is very good for medium to close range where you do not have long LoS.

[Goldeh]

"Infiltrator sappin' my Spitfires!"

Yes?

No?

[SgtExo]

^^ lol!

[killerquag]

"Infiltrator sappin' my Spitfires!"

Yes?

No?

Lol. Awesome.

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[lolroflroflcake]

Yes, please play as that type of infiltrator. That way we don't have to worry about you single handedly screwing up all our defenses by taking out generators and hacking points unseen, cause your too busy killing some poor sap for giggles. :P

[pengalor]

I hope that i will be able to put on red dot or reflex sights on semi auto snipers, add a silencer and that gives you a powerful infiltrator build. I liked doing that in BF3, so that i could go close up and lay down squad spawns. This sort of build is very good for medium to close range where you do not have long LoS.

Unless they are hiding them they can't do it in the current build. They have 4x, 7x, 8x, 10x, and 12x.

[MadKat]

Not sure if this has been confirmed or not, been hoping around the forum to no prevail; kind of the opposite of whats being asked by the OP - but does anybody know if we're able to use a sniper rifle without being a cloaker? Opposed to the OP - I love sniping, but hate cloaking, granted I don't have the slightest clue what the pros and cons of cloaking are this time around. :) Biggest worry is one shot kills on cloakers due to lack of armor, if any.

[pengalor]

Not sure if this has been confirmed or not, been hoping around the forum to no prevail; kind of the opposite of whats being asked by the OP - but does anybody know if we're able to use a sniper rifle without being a cloaker? Opposed to the OP - I love sniping, but hate cloaking, granted I don't have the slightest clue what the pros and cons of cloaking are this time around. :) Biggest worry is one shot kills on cloakers due to lack of armor, if any.

Nothing confirmed so far that I know of, and I wouldn't hold my breath. Their thoughts are if you aren't using the cloak to get in close then you are using it to act as camouflage (which actually sounds awesome). Take a shot or two, cloak and relocate, the range should make it incredibly difficult to see you, even with the weakest cloak. I know there are also shield upgrades but I doubt it's going to make you medium armor strong or anything.

[RoninOni]

O.o

Stealth is a snipers best armor......

Start taking fire, cloak and bug out. Find a new position and resume.

[Buggsy]

From some of the interviews and screenshots we have seen that the Infiltrator will have a melee focused build with much longer stealth (and stealth that makes you completely invisible) but your only long-range weapon is a pistol. Otherwise you are relying on knife, proximity mines, grenades, and the like.

What's the point of dropping the cert system, adopting the class system, if the devs are just going to emulate the exact same builds we had with the cert system?

[StumpyTheOzzie]

"Infiltrator sappin' my Spitfires!"

Yes?

No?

nice! I've just been playing that game so I can get my twitchy skill back.

[DukeTerror]

What's the point of dropping the cert system, adopting the class system, if the devs are just going to emulate the exact same builds we had with the cert system?

So you don't have to re-cert each time your done with one build and want to try another.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

yeah. Dropping ATV and Quasar max so that I could get med+ was so lame... Stupid 6 hour timer.