PS2 Download.

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O.K. So I did a search and found a thread on the PS2 download size but found no definite answer. Just a lot of guesses. For anyone that took part in the techtest. How big is the download ?

This should not violate the NDA by telling us how big the file is but if for some reason this is an NDA breech please disregard and delete this post. Maybe a dev can jump in here and tell us please. Some of us are on a limited usage plan and knowing this will come in handy so we know what to expect for an over usage charge.

Thanks.

[NumbaOneStunna]

More than 1mb, but less than 20gb.

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More than 1mb, but less than 20gb.

Thanks. I'm glad you cleared that up. Really. Awesome of you.:rolleyes:

[Littleman]

More than 1mb, but less than 20gb.

I laughed.

But seriously, I'd like access TO the download, even if I can't play right now, yet I know the game is in the fine stage of constantly being updated, so I know that's rather impractical... though the download server might be worth stress testing too... eh? EH!?

[vVRedOctoberVv]

All bullshittery aside, this is one of those things like going to a Maserati dealership. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

On a more helpful note, it's about 9 gigs, I think. A friend of mine got accepted into tech test and made some reference about it's size. Don't hold me to that number, though, I wasn't really listening to him at the time. The gist though was he considered it "big". Make of that what you will.

[Littleman]

All bullshittery aside, this is one of those things like going to a Maserati dealership. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

On a more helpful note, it's about 9 gigs, I think. A friend of mine got accepted into tech test and made some reference about it's size. Don't hold me to that number, though, I wasn't really listening to him at the time. The gist though was he considered it "big". Make of that what you will.

And that's just one continent.

Most of the space is probably absurdly detailed textures and orgasmically beautiful sound effects.

[Symmenix]

Look at the sexy download screen
http://www.planetside2.com/download
Legit link, just add a /download from ps2's homepage if you don't trust me.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Actually, I hadn't considered that... It may indeed just be the one continent. I don't know, I don't have access yet. Although, it stands to reason the download would include everything they have at present. I don't think the whole beta is going to be on just the one continent, is it? Or are they not interested in testing the continents themselves?

Yeah, I think models and the associated textures are usually the biggest part of any game part, followed by sounds. In the case of the continent, it would be a very large model, or many smaller ones :P

edit @ download link

Well... damn... That's awful simple. (just /download, that is)

[LZachariah]

I just wanted to mention that you may want to change the title of this thread; since everyone is SO hyped and ravenous for Beta, having a title of "PS2 Download" might really mislead some people into thinking that the client can be downloaded, etc. You may want to change the title to "Question about PS2 Download" or something more clear in it's purpose :-)

~Zachariah

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Thank you for the answer. 9 Gig would be awesome. I am on a 20 GB plan so this would keep me from overage. Thanks.

I just wanted to mention that you may want to change the title of this thread; since everyone is SO hyped and ravenous for Beta, having a title of "PS2 Download" might really mislead some people into thinking that the client can be downloaded, etc. You may want to change the title to "Question about PS2 Download" or something more clear in it's purpose :-)

~Zachariah

Good idea,changed.

[Littleman]

Actually, I hadn't considered that... It may indeed just be the one continent. I don't know, I don't have access yet. Although, it stands to reason the download would include everything they have at present. I don't think the whole beta is going to be on just the one continent, is it? Or are they not interested in testing the continents themselves?

Yeah, I think models and the associated textures are usually the biggest part of any game part, followed by sounds. In the case of the continent, it would be a very large model, or many smaller ones :P

edit @ download link

Well... damn... That's awful simple. (just /download, that is)

Far as I know, only Indar is finished. They're working on Amerish, with Esamir to follow. 3 continents are planned for release. I imagine we'll see them all during open beta.

And for the record, while I don't know how SOE is setting up their terrain files, WoW's vanilla continent textures (the entire "landscape" was a single massive texture on top of a height map) were each an entire 4 terabyte texture crunched down to a much more reasonable size.

Again, I don't know how SOE tackles texturing their continents. It would actually be pretty cool if a dev came in and informed us about how big a continent file really is, including JUST the height map and texture overlay, not the buildings and other natural objects on them.

[Xeller]

This what I heard through the grape vine:

- Current client is about 9 gigs
- May increase because indar is the only continent on the client
- Also speculation that a lot of low rez textures are being used to keep the client size down

[Roy Awesome]

The E3 leak was 11.4gigs. That was with 3 conts (and the other two were not done)



And for the record, while I don't know how SOE is setting up their terrain files, WoW's vanilla continent textures (the entire "landscape" was a single massive texture on top of a height map) were each an entire 4 terabyte texture crunched down to a much more reasonable size.

Again, I don't know how SOE tackles texturing their continents. It would actually be pretty cool if a dev came in and informed us about how big a continent file really is, including JUST the height map and texture overlay, not the buildings and other natural objects on them.

(The following post does not break NDA because I'm not in techtest, all this information was gleaned from the e3 leak)

Models take up the most space, by far. There is alot of 3d art in this game. Really.

The world terrain data is split into chunks, ordered by detail level (3 lod levels). They all had decreasing filesize, so this guess seems accurate. This is the second largest chunk of data. They are not heightmaps. This seemed to be vertex data.

The textures are tile based, and it's a differed renderer. That means a few things.

1) Textures size is smaller than something like wow. This is because you can reuse texture data across the map.

2) there are atleast 6 textures per material. Diffuse, Color, Specular, Normals, and a few other I'm really curious to know the techniques on.

There is alot of texture data, but it's all being reused.

[stargazer093]

8.7G

[Poser]

Max Payne 3 was 35gb

[Astrok]

Far as I know, only Indar is finished. They're working on Amerish, with Esamir to follow. 3 continents are planned for release. I imagine we'll see them all during open beta.

And for the record, while I don't know how SOE is setting up their terrain files, WoW's vanilla continent textures (the entire "landscape" was a single massive texture on top of a height map) were each an entire 4 terabyte texture crunched down to a much more reasonable size.

Again, I don't know how SOE tackles texturing their continents. It would actually be pretty cool if a dev came in and informed us about how big a continent file really is, including JUST the height map and texture overlay, not the buildings and other natural objects on them.

Tray said his work was done(putting down stuff and buildt stuff on the islands) now higby had his work by balancing stuff.

so i guess the islands are done.

[Mepper]

I think it won't get much bigger than 15 GB. All the code is already in, and most models and textures also (all vehicles will stay the same, crates, lights etc can be reused, new metal textures aren't beeded too).

I think at launch about 15 GB, and bigger later on when they add more continents, weapons, etc.

[Dubious]

I hope for 25 gig :evil:

[Pavilo Olson]

The game size is going to change between now and release, so there isnt any point in asking.

[Coreldan]

I have a whopping 1mbit connection, that for some weird reason gives me 200 kb/s at max. 9 gb will take me... well, most of a day pretty much :D I'd hope there would be an option to preload it, but no luck :( I'd rather not spend the day I get in downloading the game lol.

9gb aint much, but with my net it sadly still takes ages. The current standard is pretty much around 12-15gb and I'm sure PS2 might end up bigger once Amerish and Esamir are in too

[Rago]

The game size is going to change between now and release, so there isnt any point in asking.

Thats what i also think !Even you are TR i have to agree to this :p

[Coreldan]

I disagree, as someone with a slow internet, I'm very much interested in how big the client is.

[Mirror]

So the installer/launcher is 12mb and the game files are 8.8gb.

I would only expect the game files to grow as we get nearer release.

[Dubious]

AFAIK, its only tech beta now, so not everything is added
so dont be surprised if the size is doubled or even trippel of the current 9 gig

[Littleman]

I have a whopping 1mbit connection, that for some weird reason gives me 200 kb/s at max. 9 gb will take me... well, most of a day pretty much :D I'd hope there would be an option to preload it, but no luck :( I'd rather not spend the day I get in downloading the game lol.

9gb aint much, but with my net it sadly still takes ages. The current standard is pretty much around 12-15gb and I'm sure PS2 might end up bigger once Amerish and Esamir are in too

I'm right there with you. Sprint 3G, about 200 kb/s to 250 kb/s on good days. On average I do 100-150 QQ

[OnexBigxHebrew]

I'm right there with you. Sprint 3G, about 200 kb/s to 250 kb/s on good days. On average I do 100-150 QQ

I can't even stand the speed of 3G when using my phone lol. Guessing you have a legit reason for this self-torture? Lol

[Coreldan]

My reason for self torture is that for some incredible reason, my city is messed up when it comes to internet connections. A single company has a monopoly there (not a very big city, 40-50k people living there) and they have driven up the prices like that.

I pay 20€/month for that 1mbit connection. That's the cheapest I can have and as a student with little income, I don't wanna pay much more. In the next city around 50km off, for 20€ you get like.. 100mbits for that price.

To have like 50+ mbit, you gotta pay 70-80€/month around here.

Well, it's not as bad if you happen to live in a place with fiber optic.. but that's nonexistant unless you live in a new building :D

[Tatwi]

I'm right there with you. Sprint 3G, about 200 kb/s to 250 kb/s on good days. On average I do 100-150 QQ

My average sustained download speed is 68-80KB/s, some times it will hold steady at 90KB/s.

See, I live 500m from where DSL ends and the cable company refuses to come here, even though they have internet a couple Kms away. So, my options are 28.8 dialup (because Bell has old line cards that can't do 56k!), commercial wireless (802.11g), or HPSA+ wireless (cell phone type). I've had the commercial wifi for the last 7 years, even though some times (for months on end), it has been terrible - I mean worse than dialup terrible).

The least expensive of my options:

HSPA+
Download Rate: 7.2 Mbs peak, 2-4Mbs sustained.
Download Cap: 3GB
Installation Fee: $99.95 on a 2 year term
Monthly Fee: $45
Overage Charge: $25 for an extra 10GB then 1.5¢ for each additional MB (that's $15/GB with no price cap!).

Commercial Wireless
Download Rate: 3 Mbs peak, 512 Kbs sustained.
Download Cap: None, but throttled a lot (http://www.xplornet.com/traffic-management/canopy/).
Installation Fee: I don't remember.
Monthly Fee: $45
Overage Charge: None

For that money on DSL and Cable internet directly in town, you'd get 100Mbs and 75GB usage. Dialup, because it requires a landline phone service (that I haven't had in 5+ years) is actually around $50/m, believe it or not!

That said, the company I have the commercial wifi through recently changed to HSPA+ and are more expensive than everyone else, so I am waiting for them to discontinue my current service...

Internet in Canada is a bloody joke. As a result, lots of us would like to know the client size.

[ChipMHazard]

I disagree, as someone with a slow internet, I'm very much interested in how big the client is.

Even more so if someone has a bandwidth limit.

[Coreldan]

Even more so if someone has a bandwidth limit.

Luckily we dont really have connections like that in Finland, but yes I understand your interest too :D

[ringring]

Tray said his work was done(putting down stuff and buildt stuff on the islands) now higby had his work by balancing stuff.

so i guess the islands are done.

No he didn't mean that. His groundwork is done, but there are still loads of artwork.

Remember too that the number of continents won't stop at 3, 3 is just the number for launch. In addition, for all we know they are creating new vehicles to try out but with no intention of releasing right now just as in the same way in PS1 the phantasm existed for years before it went in game.

[Frankzy]

Luckily we dont really have connections like that in Finland, but yes I understand your interest too :D

Guess we're a bit privileged here in Scandinavia, i live in the middle of nowhere in northern Sweden and yet i pay about 30€ a month for 100/100 fiber....

[EVILoHOMER]

You have to remember the game wont be as big because there is no scripted content, no high resolution videos like Max Payne has every 30 seconds and not hours of dialogue because it isn't a single player game. Also the maps aren't hand crafted, they use the same base and building designs copied and pasted sand the same with trees etc etc.

So the game wont be a big file size and that's a good thing so it means more people can play.

[Pyreal]

Man I hope they offer DVD-ROM discs for a few bucks + shipping. *begs*

I think Portal2 was the last game I downloaded, and at 11g it took me 3-4 days of uninterrupted d/ling.

You have to remember the game wont be as big because there is no scripted content, no high resolution videos like Max Payne has every 30 seconds and not hours of dialogue because it isn't a single player game. Also the maps aren't hand crafted, they use the same base and building designs copied and pasted sand the same with trees etc etc.

So the game wont be a big file size and that's a good thing so it means more people can play.


Actually the maps are handcrafted, and each base has a unique layout...

[ElectroEsper]

I wont complain about my internet speed, downloading 20GB at 3.5mb/sec ( about 5% my max speed) take me about 2 hours.

But Im concerned about the size since I got a limit of download/upload by month wich is pretty small, about 100GB combined :/

[Coreldan]

Guess we're a bit privileged here in Scandinavia, i live in the middle of nowhere in northern Sweden and yet i pay about 30€ a month for 100/100 fiber....

Well, as said, it's not Finland, it's my city. I know that Sweden still pwns our internets on a national scale, but you dont really have to go further than the next big city 50km off and you already get the same 100/100 for 30€ :D

I love my city and wouldnt like to move out of there ever, but the internet just pisses me off :D Perhaps when I graduate and get a job it's not a big problem anymore when I have the money to pay more for the internet, but still.

Luckily though, the quality of the lines is good, so it's not that I pay a lot for small bandwidth and crappy quality, quality is good but speed is just too limited :D

[Novice bot]

Well, as said, it's not Finland, it's my city. I know that Sweden still pwns our internets on a national scale, but you dont really have to go further than the next big city 50km off and you already get the same 100/100 for 30€ :D

I love my city and wouldnt like to move out of there ever, but the internet just pisses me off :D Perhaps when I graduate and get a job it's not a big problem anymore when I have the money to pay more for the internet, but still.

Luckily though, the quality of the lines is good, so it's not that I pay a lot for small bandwidth and crappy quality, quality is good but speed is just too limited :D

Depends, loving the DNA's new DC/LTE 4G's, I mean, LTE smacks you 90mb/s with ease if you're at a good location.

[Bruttal]

ill stick with my 30Mb/1.5Mb Unlimited for now.

[Tatwi]

Depends, loving the DNA's new DC/LTE 4G's, I mean, LTE smacks you 90mb/s with ease if you're at a good location.

You guys have actual LTE 4G over there. Here in Canada the regulatory body decided that HSPA+ was enough of an upgrade to 3G for it to be called "4G" and as a result we may never see LTE (except in major cities, for cell phones and tablets...).

Even still, after looking into a bit more it seems that all the "4G" operators here charge $94 - $100 / month for 15GB and $10 - $35/GB overage, with no price cap. By comparison, DSL/Fiber and Cable Internet costs $49.99/m for 75GB with $2.00/GB overage to a max. $80/month!

I'm not sure how it's even legal for the telcos to rape "rural" customers with their 4G pricing, especially when "rural" really means "the telco is too cheap to extend their service, in my case, 500m"...

*sigh*

It's a very annoying issue that I've had to live with for the last 7 years. Sure, we could move, but that would be stupid, because we like everything about our house/yard/etc...

[Novice bot]

You guys have actual LTE 4G over there. Here in Canada the reglatory body decided that HSPA+ was enough of an upgrade to 3G for it to be called "4G" and as a result we may never see LTE.

Even still, after looking into a bit more it seems that all the "4G" operators here charge $94 - $100 / month for 15GB and $10 - $35/GB overage, with price cap. By comparison, DSL/Fiber and Cable Internet costs $49.99/m for 75GB with $2.00/GB overage to a max. $80/month!

I'm not sure how it's even legal for the telcos to rape "rural" customers with their 4G pricing, especially when "rural" really means "the telco is too cheap to extend their service, in my case, 500m"...

*sigh*

It's a very annoying issue that I've had to live with for the last 7 years. Sure, we could move, but that would be stupid, because we like everything about our house/yard/etc...

4G DC supports up-to 50mb/s currently, and LTE up to 100. The amusing thing is, LTE 4g costs 39,90 € a month + the extremely expensive carriable modem device. But its a rather cheap alternative. 21mb/s 3g costs approximately 14 euro's a month, but from what I've tested, the latencies still aren't good enough gaming wise, even though the download speeds are higher.

Still satisfied with my 8/1 mb/s. Mainly thanks to my ISP being so god damn efficient when it comes to handling the net work, I smack 20 pings to good Swedish servers (which I primarily play FPS on).

[demonicale]

You don't expect someone to break they're NDA and tell you right?.
Just asking.

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You don't expect someone to break they're NDA and tell you right?.
Just asking.

Guess you didn't read the post.I said IF THIS VIOLATES NDA THEN DISREGARD THIS POST. I don't see the harm in telling us the file size and I dont think that violates NDA.

[demonicale]

Guess you didn't read the post.I said IF THIS VIOLATES NDA THEN DISREGARD THIS POST. I don't see the harm in telling us the file size and I dont think that violates NDA.

I kinda glanced at your post if i'm honest, and i did'nt mean my post to sound alil nasty or anything .. was just saying :)

[Xeller]

I know the feeling. My ISP promises 3-5 mbit/s but I really only average 0.6-0.9 mbit/s. I live out in the middle of nowhere, so everyone gets their internet through these special wireless broadcast towers (They might use radio waves? I'm not familiar enough with the technology) so it has just always been really unreliable.

[Wrekriem]

Far as I know, only Indar is finished. They're working on Amerish, with Esamir to follow. 3 continents are planned for release. I imagine we'll see them all during open beta.

And for the record, while I don't know how SOE is setting up their terrain files, WoW's vanilla continent textures (the entire "landscape" was a single massive texture on top of a height map) were each an entire 4 terabyte texture crunched down to a much more reasonable size.

Again, I don't know how SOE tackles texturing their continents. It would actually be pretty cool if a dev came in and informed us about how big a continent file really is, including JUST the height map and texture overlay, not the buildings and other natural objects on them.

Esamir! *glee*

[Total Overkill]

Internet in Canada is a bloody joke. As a result, lots of us would like to know the client size.

Aye... some places are ALMOST as bad as Australia... :doh: with no legitimate reason.

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I kinda glanced at your post if i'm honest, and i did'nt mean my post to sound alil nasty or anything .. was just saying :)

No problem. Thought you were trolling me. It's all good.;)

[Rockstone]

Aye... some places are ALMOST as bad as Australia... :doh: with no legitimate reason.

I was going to say that the USA is worst but... we really aren't, looking at statistics.
That scares me.