Your planetside 2 youtube movie plans.

[Buggsy]

*Suicide Rush*

Video of one player as infantry running in slow motion in a straight line, with planes falling out of the sky, bullets flying all over the place, explosions to the left and to the right, and straight ahead is a hack facility. But the player dies just before reaching it.

This is the music I'm gonna use in the back ground:

Breaking Bad Soundtrack -- Gus***39;s Theme [Apparat - "Goodbye (Instrumental)"] - YouTube

I just need the footage.

[JoeDragon]

I've got a few ideas but I'm worried my PC won't be able to handle recording with FRAPs. I bought an Nvidia 560ti back in December hoping to increase my FPS however I only get around 8 fps while recording Planetside 1 even.(MMO's like WoW record a bit better) Not really sure how to fix it. My CPU is an AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.9GHz and when I originally bought the PC 2 years ago it ran beautifully. Only have 4 gigs of RAM as well but I'm not sure if I should bother upgrading the RAM (don't know if it would increase my recording quality at all or if I need to save up for a new pc.

Anyways back to the original topic, I have plans for an entire Machinima style series but not sure if I have the capability of recording it. Need the client to see how well it handles.

[Rivenshield]

I want to take a squad of newbies out on go-live day and record the whole goddam thing, then take the most entertaining footage and splice it together with maps and short interviews recorded later and turn it into a docudrama.

It's weird.... I'm willing to play PS2 on the lowest possible settings rather than spend more dough, but I want to shoot this machinima badly enough to spend SERIOUS dough so I can FRAPS it all. The game will be there for years. Go Live will only happen once.

(How much space does FRAPS chew up per minute of footage on the default 30 fps? I've been utterly unable to find out.)

[Coreldan]

Well, my clan/community/outfit has been running a Youtube channel mostly about our gaming in APB, but we're planning to extend the youtube project to PS2 as well.

So varying kinds of footage from PS2, mostly... "concrete stuff", as in not really any kind of artistic slo-mo ideas or anything, mostly different kinds of gameplay as an outfit. Some tutorial kind of things probably too early on.

[JoeDragon]

I want to take a squad of newbies out on go-live day and record the whole goddam thing, then take the most entertaining footage and splice it together with maps and short interviews recorded later and turn it into a docudrama.

It's weird.... I'm willing to play PS2 on the lowest possible settings rather than spend more dough, but I want to shoot this machinima badly enough to spend SERIOUS dough so I can FRAPS it all. The game will be there for years. Go Live will only happen once.

(How much space does FRAPS chew up per minute of footage on the default 30 fps? I've been utterly unable to find out.)

30 minutes of footage takes around 100gb for me. I have a 1.5 TB external HD however most people say recording to an external is bad so I tend to record to my main 500GB HD and transfer it over. Unfortunately this limits me to around a half hour of footage interrupted by a long transfer time so I don't fill up my main HD.

[Rivenshield]

30 minutes of footage takes around 100gb for me. I have a 1.5 TB external HD however most people say recording to an external is bad

Hmmm. Thanks for the real-world metrics.

/mulls things over

[Carnage]

(How much space does FRAPS chew up per minute of footage on the default 30 fps? I've been utterly unable to find out.)

that really depends on what compression (if any) you chose, if I remember correctly a raw uncompressed recording at 720p is about 1 gig per minute...

I currently use Playclaw (http://www.playclaw.com/) to record with relatively good results, but one of my mates who has a paid sub for all 3 main recording software's lives by a program called Dxtory (http://dxtory.com/v2-home-en.html) and going by the free trial it seems really good, currently I only get about a 5-10 fps drop using it on borderlands, and apparently you can split recoding between multiple HDD's, I have not tried that yet but looks promising, as for fraps... death to fraps...

I plan to record all PS2 play I engage in.

[Zulthus]

30 minutes of footage takes around 100gb for me. I have a 1.5 TB external HD however most people say recording to an external is bad so I tend to record to my main 500GB HD and transfer it over. Unfortunately this limits me to around a half hour of footage interrupted by a long transfer time so I don't fill up my main HD.

Absolutely not, those people aren't too smart. Recording to your main drive makes your PC work harder and the game lag more because the HDD has to focus on both reading and writing to the hard drive; you get much better performance recording to the external because your main drive can focus on running the game.

As for me, I'll be recording game sessions here and there showcasing different styles of gameplay, nothing special. I don't tend to edit things.

[Brusi]

As soon as they release animal tails in the cash shop, i'm going to film, direct and produce a PS2 Furry fandom porno.

it will be called, PS2: Size Always Meowters

[Rivenshield]

PS2: Size Always Meowters

You're the guy who took all the damage/death voice emotes from PS1 for the female and male avatars and mixed them together so it sounded like they were screwing, aren't you?

[Brusi]

haha "INCOMING MAX UNIT!"

[Duckforceone]

I've got a few ideas but I'm worried my PC won't be able to handle recording with FRAPs. I bought an Nvidia 560ti back in December hoping to increase my FPS however I only get around 8 fps while recording Planetside 1 even.(MMO's like WoW record a bit better) Not really sure how to fix it. My CPU is an AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.9GHz and when I originally bought the PC 2 years ago it ran beautifully. Only have 4 gigs of RAM as well but I'm not sure if I should bother upgrading the RAM (don't know if it would increase my recording quality at all or if I need to save up for a new pc.

Anyways back to the original topic, I have plans for an entire Machinima style series but not sure if I have the capability of recording it. Need the client to see how well it handles.

you do know that you need a better cpu, and more ram would help too..
and if you can run game on one harddrive, windows on another, and record to a third it would help...

also, fraps require the best of machines and space... stuff like bandicam and the likes might work better for you. Or even record with xsplit...

[Redshift]

I want to take a squad of newbies out on go-live day and record the whole goddam thing, then take the most entertaining footage and splice it together with maps and short interviews recorded later and turn it into a docudrama.

It's weird.... I'm willing to play PS2 on the lowest possible settings rather than spend more dough, but I want to shoot this machinima badly enough to spend SERIOUS dough so I can FRAPS it all. The game will be there for years. Go Live will only happen once.

(How much space does FRAPS chew up per minute of footage on the default 30 fps? I've been utterly unable to find out.)

Fraps can record a loop and only save when you want to, i have mine running all the time on a 45 second loop, if anything cool happens you just hit the hotkey and save that section

[Coreldan]

You dont wanna use Fraps necessarily for that. Fraps is probably the most HDD space taking recording software, basically cos the video comes out as raw as it can and takes a crapton of space.

There are several other recording software that can reach the same youtube quality while taking like a fourth of the HDD space, like Bandicam. That said, I personally record using Fraps. I record half size and to an external USB HDD :D

[Novice bot]

Am I the only one thinking that these videos could end up being counter-productive, as at worst enemies can learn from them?

[Coreldan]

Am I the only one thinking that these videos could end up being counter-productive, as at worst enemies can learn from them?

I've thought about it, but I think it's sorta overreacting.

Or perhaps one needs to start utilizing a more diverse set of tactics so that their entire gameplay wont be watered from uploading a few videos :D

Also that's the strength of Youtube vids over Streaming - you get to choose what gets shown instead of everything that happens to go on in ur screen at that time.

[JoeDragon]

Absolutely not, those people aren't too smart. Recording to your main drive makes your PC work harder and the game lag more because the HDD has to focus on both reading and writing to the hard drive; you get much better performance recording to the external because your main drive can focus on running the game.

As for me, I'll be recording game sessions here and there showcasing different styles of gameplay, nothing special. I don't tend to edit things.

I'll give External recording another shot then. Thanks :)

The PC I'm building in my head will have one HD for Windows and other non game programs, one HD for Video recording and an SSD for gameplay. As well as 2 video cards. But until I get a couple thousand dollars to invest into my youtube career I won't be able to build that PC. Maybe next tax refund lol.

Until then I'll just have to work with what I have/can easily afford.

[PrISM]

You're the guy who took all the damage/death voice emotes from PS1 for the female and male avatars and mixed them together so it sounded like they were screwing, aren't you?
That was NoXous.

[Bittermen]

If my computer can handle Fraps and PS2 at the same time I'll be making a ton of videos.

[Pella]

I will be ripping ingame footage we have seen 1000 times. Then overlay some cool music. Possibly Dubstep. Then pass it off as fan art.

Here is an example of my work. This took just under 200 Man hours.

http://youtu.be/WykngOg4mSU

[IronMole]

MSI Afterburner...

[Rivenshield]

Am I the only one thinking that these videos could end up being counter-productive, as at worst enemies can learn from them?

Dude, all they need to learn that is create an alt on another server. There they can learn all about personality types, weapons, and the culture that grows out of that combination.

I created an NC alt on Emerald many years ago to sort of see what life looked like on the smurf side, and lo... they behaved just like the smurfs on Markov. Lots of cameraderie, lots of user-friendly firepower, no support whatsofreaking ever, very little organization. It was a gigantic cheerful lethal mob. Which I already knew.

Time and good outfits have an impact on all of this, but still. It was an interesting lesson.

You're worried about trifles.

[Tsunami]

not letting you steal my ideas.

[Coreldan]

I'll give External recording another shot then. Thanks :)

The PC I'm building in my head will have one HD for Windows and other non game programs, one HD for Video recording and an SSD for gameplay. As well as 2 video cards. But until I get a couple thousand dollars to invest into my youtube career I won't be able to build that PC. Maybe next tax refund lol.

Until then I'll just have to work with what I have/can easily afford.

It pretty much just comes down to how fast the external can write and how much is it trying to write (as in quality of video). Many externals have like.. 7200 rpm nowadays so shouldnt be a huge problem, especially if its USB3.

[JoeDragon]

It pretty much just comes down to how fast the external can write and how much is it trying to write (as in quality of video). Many externals have like.. 7200 rpm nowadays so shouldnt be a huge problem, especially if its USB3.

USB2 Sadly, however I'll play around with quality. I originally used it but one person commented about some lag in one of my early videos so I switched. But looking back most of my initial videos turned out ok and it was during an open beta of SWTOR in the main Capital Space Station so that may have contributed to the lag.

I'll just have to play around with it in the short term until I can upgrade.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

Ill be making videos, both for an outfit I join and just hype gameplay.


However, I'm not posting my ideas here. :D

[Rivenshield]

Dumb question of the day: I know there are USB 3.0 cards available. If I buy one and stick it in, will that give me 3.0 speed even though my mobo only came stock with several 2.0 slots? Is my low-budget machine 3.0 *capable*?

[Timithos]

You're the guy who took all the damage/death voice emotes from PS1 for the female and male avatars and mixed them together so it sounded like they were screwing, aren't you?

More like giving birth. It's too bad they didn't sequence the sounds to make it sound like actual sex.

Planetside Voice Emotes/Macros (P1) - YouTube

[JawsOfLife]

Dumb question of the day: I know there are USB 3.0 cards available. If I buy one and stick it in, will that give me 3.0 speed even though my mobo only came stock with several 2.0 slots? Is my low-budget machine 3.0 *capable*?

If the USB 3.0 expansion card goes into a PCi-E slot. A standard PCI slot expansion can only give 133 MB/s max, which is about 1/5 of USB 3.0's limit. If it's an ExpressCard expansion (though I've never heard of one of those kind...) it would give a max 2.5 Gbps throughput speed, which is much faster than USB 2.0 but only half as fast as 3.0. Hope that answered your question!

[ShazMyBot]

I've bee working on a Planetside 2 machinima series since the GDC alpha footage was released. The months up until e3 involved laying a lot of ground work, as well as brainstorming a good foundation to stand on.

I won't go into too much detail about it, but as of right now I have six scripts awaiting polishing and grammar-check, as well as several more in the writing stages.

[Rivenshield]

If the USB 3.0 expansion card goes into a PCi-E slot. A standard PCI slot expansion can only give 133 MB/s max, which is about 1/5 of USB 3.0's limit. If it's an ExpressCard expansion (though I've never heard of one of those kind...) it would give a max 2.5 Gbps throughput speed, which is much faster than USB 2.0 but only half as fast as 3.0. Hope that answered your question!

Thank you.

/rummages around looking for the specs on his mobo

[Coreldan]

USB2 Sadly, however I'll play around with quality. I originally used it but one person commented about some lag in one of my early videos so I switched. But looking back most of my initial videos turned out ok and it was during an open beta of SWTOR in the main Capital Space Station so that may have contributed to the lag.

I'll just have to play around with it in the short term until I can upgrade.

As someone frequently recording APB, I came to the conclusion that I get better video/performance when recording to a 5400rpm USB2 external than I get by recording to the same HDD that runs Windows and APB and it does make sense :D

Naturally if one would have two "real HDDs" then it would be different, but if just one, even USB2 external is probably better.

If you want to get an idea, check the Youtube link in my sig. Any video that has "Core" in it at the end is recorded by me. I use Fraps recording at half size (I play at 1920x1080) and I usuaully only upload up to 720p to save time and HDD space (got a really low upload bandwidth) and cos my videos are more like volume videos with just ordinary clan teamplay with it (instead of like a montage I have been working for months, in which case id upload 1080p). I did recently upload one 1080p movie.. here:

19.7.2012 - Two missions with OCA Silverado - Core - YouTube

I record at 60 fps (naturally youtube makes it like 24 or something) and the game also runs around 50-60 fps.

At least for the kind of videos I do, I think the quality is OK, but I guess if one would rather make "value" videos rather than the "volume" videos I make, more quality might be preferred. Fraps is extremely easy to use, but it comes at the expense of lack of settings. Something like dxtory is pretty much the king when it comes to adjustments, but something like Bandicam seems to provide a pretty good quality/size ratio for many of my clanmates. As a reference, the videos that say "Moras" on the channel are recorded with Bandicam.

For Fraps half size vs. full size comparison, this video was filmed full size and also uploaded full size, but the game was running at like 25 fps for me, so playing with it wouldve been definitely out of question, but I wanted the best quality possible for this video so that people can see the crosshair and bullet impacts cos that was the entire point of the video :D I think the major reason for the huge FPS drop was that the external HDD couldnt keep up with full size recording at higher FPS, so it bottlenecked it down. Could've also been my GPU (HD5770), but I'm not sure.

LCR accuracy - YouTube