Let's play Planetside 2 on low-end systems !

[Griffevent]

Preliminary Message : Poor & penny-pinchers welcome. Rich people are requested to head towards this > thread (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45469) <.

Hello, fellow earthicans.

As I saw the first page of the forum's main section, the evidence struck me that the massive amount of questions would not find any answers until beta, and that therefore these numerous threads were pretty pointless (no offense, being impatient is understandable). So, why not add another silly thread to the melee ?

In my first thread (that I hope is not my last, that some of you will hope it is, and that most of you don't give a sh*t about), I won't talk about guns that sound like some people ruining fragile paper-based packaging materials. Instead, I will address a situation (my situation) that some other Planetside 2 enthusiasts certainly share: having a crappy pc but nevertheless intending to play the game.

As for myself, I just learned that I'm gonna be stuck in England for a year with kidney pies and a laptop I can't stress at the risk of ruining it permanently (faulty 8600m Gt). So, I intend (at first) to play the game at a 800x600 resolution with low details and mainly eat pasta. What about you ?

You are broke ? In dire straits (and you have money for nothing) ? You are ashamed to say "Nothing 'cause I don't even have enough money to buy new underwears" in the "How much does Planetside 2 really cost you?" thread ? Don't worry, express yourself here about the way you'll enjoy the game, and share some compassion.

Please, pardon probable excessive cultural references and spelling mistakes as english isn't my native language.

[snaffe]

Preliminary Message : Poor & penny-pinchers welcome. Rich people are requested to head towards this > thread (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45469) <.

Hello, fellow earthicans.

As I saw the first page of the forum's main section, the evidence struck me that the massive amount of questions would not find any answers until beta, and that therefore these numerous threads were pretty pointless (no offense, being impatient is understandable). So, why not add another silly thread to the melee ?

In my first thread (that I hope is not my last, that some of you will hope it is, and that most of you don't give a sh*t about), I won't talk about guns that sound like some people ruining fragile paper-based packaging materials. Instead, I will address a situation (my situation) that some other Planetside 2 enthusiasts certainly share: having a crappy pc but nevertheless intending to play the game.

As for myself, I just learned that I'm gonna be stuck in England for a year with kidney pies and a laptop I can't stress at the risk of ruining it permanently (faulty 8600m Gt). So, I intend (at first) to play the game at a 800x600 resolution with low details and mainly eat pasta. What about you ?

You are broke ? In dire straits (and you have money for nothing) ? You are ashamed to say "Nothing 'cause I don't even have enough money to buy new underwears" in the "How much does Planetside 2 really cost you?" thread ? Don't worry, express yourself here about the way you'll enjoy the game, and share some compassion.

Please, pardon probable excessive cultural references and spelling mistakes as english isn't my native language.
Erasmus student? You'll be lucky if you have broadband in your student dorms! I can recommend visiting internet cafes to get your fix of FPS.

I did the Eramus thing myself, and you'll be out drinking and shagging and not doing so much gaming anyway (and gaming should not be on your mind when you're on an Erasmus exchange...and this is coming from a hardcore geek gamer, sorta).

But if you're not a student, buy new and get home broadband. But good luck sorting that out if you haven't got any utility bills, bank account or anything :) The UK is not user friendly when moving here and wanting broadband.

[Mepper]

I'm gonna play this game with a 8600 gt, 2 gigs of ram, and a 2.4 gigaherz quadcore. (If this is really too low I'll maybe upgrade it, but I'm at least gonna try it.)

Playing games for the graphics is just like watching porn for the story.

[Landtank]

Being a poor college student, I have essentially 0 chance of getting a better gaming computer, so I will have to deal with my Asus k53-SV, equipped with a GT540m, an Intel i5 2410m, 6gb of RAM, and a 7200rpm mechanic hard drive.

Needless to say I'll get through it, but I would love to have $1000 to drop on a new lappy.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Assuming the closed beta goes on for a several month period I'll begin that with a shitty Core2Duo, 9500 GT, and 4 gigs of RAM. With that being said I can afford about one computer part a month and the new motherboard just shipped yesterday.

[Griffevent]

To Snaffe: I'll be a teaching assistant in a comprehensive school for 12 hours a week, so I'm required to open a bank account I suppose, at least for the CRB check. Haven't chosen any definite accommodation yet, but if there's only wireless, well, I'll do with that, I think...

[moosepoop]

i have a laptop with nvidia gt555. is that a low end or medium card?

[Landtank]

i have a laptop with nvidia gt555. is that a low end or medium card?

Upper medium range, it's a better than decent laptop card. What processor do you have? The game is very processor heavy so far if I read correctly.

[Goku]

i have a laptop with nvidia gt555. is that a low end or medium card?

Low end by today's standards in the realm of graphics cards (desktop). According to notebookcheck (http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-555M.41933.0.html) its a Class 2 for laptops however. Though if you have the 144 cuda core version you will be fairing a lot better than the 96 one.

[snaffe]

To Snaffe: I'll be a teaching assistant in a comprehensive school for 12 hours a week, so I'm required to open a bank account I suppose, at least for the CRB check. Haven't chosen any definite accommodation yet, but if there's only wireless, well, I'll do with that, I think...

Roll back any thoughts about having wireless :)

Really, the UK is in the backwater when it comes to broadband.

[moosepoop]

thanks for the info bro. my system says its i5 2.4 ghz. is taht good?

[Goku]

thanks for the info bro. my system says its i5 2.4 ghz. is taht good?

Thats not half bad. At least its not C2D lol. Smed said those will have quite the hard time running this game.

[snaffe]

Griffevent: oh and when you get to the UK, on the first day, ask for a letter from your employer so you can open a bank account. Otherwise you are screwed as you typically have to show utility (gas, electrics, phone) from the past 3 months to open a bank account. And to pay bills you have to have a bank account, so slight catch 22.

I think the best option would almost be to offer to pay for your neighbours broadband and tag onto the wifi. But like, depends if they trust you etc.

[Katanauk]

I have a pretty decent system I expect will be able to run on high (as opposed to ultra, though perhaps, as it runs BF3 mostly ultra?) but in the same breath I REALLY want Planetside 2 to be low end system friendly. I'd tune out super high def grass if it meant a few more people could play. Planetside isn't about being the prettiest.

I got a lot of friends who just don't have the money for BF3 friendly PCs not that I'm entirely sure these PCs exist mind you, installing that game was the hardest thing I've ever done.

[Griffevent]

Thanks for the advice Snaffe, I will try to do that.

Mepper comment is interesting, graphics are secondary. I think it will be enjoyable netheirtheless. And, due to the game genre (exp, progression, skill increase), I'm sure that once in front of a real computer, all the skill gained piloting and all will still be there.

Furthermore, It will add some kind of Planetside 1 vibe...
http://cf.shacknews.com/shack_images/sshots/planetside/PSScreenShot0144.jpg
yeah, not so great actually... but not so bad hey!

[Noxey]

Playing games for the graphics is just like watching porn for the story.

true that :lol:

[Greenthy]

Well actually there are plenty that watch porn for the story.
Or they tend to fantasize it. If it's only for the action, you're plenty with just 2-3 movies.

Now I agree preferably lower graphics for better gameplay. But that's not something that's mutually exclusive. You can have both together :)
All that's needed is the option to tone them graphics down enough to be :
A) Playable for low ends
B) Not your typical : turn down graphics for competitive edge (same for contrast/alpha abusing)

[Sledgecrushr]

I hope my computer runs it. I have a core 2 quad @ 2.4ghz running the radeon hd 5850 and 4g ram.

[Lazaruz]

I'm going to try lowest possible settings with i5 480m 2.67ghz, GT 540m and 8g of RAM.

Maybe I'll break the interweb!

[Mepper]

I'm gonna get kinda angry if I can't:

-Turn off all reflections
-Get rid of the shadows, at least the ones from moving objects
-Turn off smoke, dust, clouds, etc. If that would be "unfair", let me replace them with the minecraft clouds :P
-Just disable the grass. All those little models add nothing to the gameplay, and hit my performance very hard. (Just seeing a green textured floor s enough.)
-Reduce texture quality
-Reduce the details from all models.
-If there is water, let me make it one flat blue surface, waves kill my fps.
-Etc.

Those things aren't needed, for nobody. So please let me do all those things.

BTW, they should also do this, because only hardcore gamers, or people with too much money buy computers that will run the game with all these effects. 90% don't have such machines, and they simply won't play PS2 if their machine can't handle it. You can get A LOT more players (=more money) if you let people disable a lot of effects, and thus lower the system requirements.

Think about that, SOE!

[Griffevent]

Got some "answer" on their twitter :

Me: Hey, could we have some details about graphic options and the possibility to play on very low details and resolutions ? Thanks

PS2: We'll have more info for you once the tech test is completed! ^Lancer

[Sephirex]

Got some "answer" on their twitter :

Me: Hey, could we have some details about graphic options and the possibility to play on very low details and resolutions ? Thanks

PS2: We'll have more info for you once the tech test is completed! ^Lancer

That's not an answer, that's called a "stall".
It's a justified stall, though. They're still making major optimization changes.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

Thanks for the advice Snaffe, I will try to do that.

Mepper comment is interesting, graphics are secondary. I think it will be enjoyable netheirtheless. And, due to the game genre (exp, progression, skill increase), I'm sure that once in front of a real computer, all the skill gained piloting and all will still be there.

Furthermore, It will add some kind of Planetside 1 vibe...
http://cf.shacknews.com/shack_images/sshots/planetside/PSScreenShot0144.jpg
yeah, not so great actually... but not so bad hey!

I almost died hahaha.

I'll be playing mine on a fairly new Asus gaming laptop. I do have some friends playing on weaker systems though. My friend Dumpy is playing it on a phenom 2, but he just bought a 560 ti. My dick friend Rob just built a PC with a high-end GTX 680 and a bunch of other high end shit - put him in the financial crapper, lol. Still jealous though.

I plan on buying a desktop withing a year and a half, toward the end of school. But for now, my laptop runs BF3 on Ultra (with a couple tiny tweaks), so its all good. Just a bit worried about my processor, since that will potentially be my big bottleneck in this game (2670qm quad i7 up to 3.1), as my 560m 2gbDDR5 and 12 gigs of ram will do fine. Not to mention this thing has a BA cooling system.

Just wanna get into beta so I know how my mobile i7 handles :ugh:.

[ThermalReaper]

Phenom II X3 710, 3 GBs of ram, 6670. Can't upgrade anymore, ready for bloody action. I may not have a super computer like yours, but I have a jetpack.

[noxious]

Playing games for the graphics is just like watching porn for the story.
Do you use the same logic to rationalize watching SD over HD video content? Higher visual quality is a wonderful thing.

[Timithos]

Goku, I'm using my original Dell PC from 2003: P4 2.4g single core, 4g 400mhtz ram, and a ATI Radeon w/ 1gig of SDRAM3. My 250 watt power supply might fry my 4th graphics card though. What do you think PS2 will be like on that?

Thankfully, I'm being blessed with a new system next week: i5-3450 Ivy-Bridge quad, nVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti w/ 1g of GDDR5, 8g DDR3 ram

[Xale]

-Get rid of the shadows, at least the ones from moving objects
Why the hell would you do that, since player/vehicle shadows allow you to see them approach from behind/above and behind objects. In many cases, they can be your first warning.

[Mepper]

If you graphics, and don't care for gameplay, why don't you just go to the cinema and watch a movie?

:P

Of course some people like nice graphics, there is nothing wrong with that. I personally don't really care about them but that's just my opinion.

There are just two things I wanted to point out:
-Gameplay should be more importabt than graphics.
-A lot of people don't have very powerfull machines. By not allowing them to turn down their graphics you basically deny them from playing the game.

Edit: I want to remove shadows because they hurt my performance badly. And since I'm planning on being a pilot for the most time, I won't really get a disadvantage. I might sometimes get a disadvantage because of that, but my performance is just more important.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

If you graphics, and don't care for gameplay, why don't you just go to the cinema and watch a movie?

:P

Of course some people like nice graphics, there is nothing wrong with that. I personally don't really care about them but that's just my opinion.

There are just two things I wanted to point out:
-Gameplay should be more importabt than graphics.
-A lot of people don't have very powerfull machines. By not allowing them to turn down their graphics you basically deny them from playing the game.

Edit: I want to remove shadows because they hurt my performance badly. And since I'm planning on being a pilot for the most time, I won't really get a disadvantage. I might sometimes get a disadvantage because of that, but my performance is just more important.

If PS2 had PS1 graphics, I wouldn't have joined this forum, and you'd have about 14 players, tops. Just saying.

[Chrispin]

I have two 3.0 ghz Xeon processors, 3 gigs of RAM, and a single Radeon HD 6850. I don't expect to run this game very well, but I'm going to wait and see how it plays before spending the money on expensive upgrades.

[Noctis]

For some reason I have to test something on my old machine, which is:

Single Core 3.20
1.5GB DDR2
HD3450

I can run Skyrim at medium details with that, it's kinda tweaked, I rarely play there, but it's a test machine where I play stuff at 0 details.

Think it will run before I test it on the field?

Iek.

[Noxey]

For some reason I have to test something on my old machine, which is:

Single Core 3.20
1.5GB DDR2
HD3450

I can run Skyrim at medium details with that, it's kinda tweaked, I rarely play there, but it's a test machine where I play stuff at 0 details.

Think it will run before I test it on the field?

Iek.

I think it will run but it wont be enjoyable ;)

[Noctis]

Probably, even with my gaming comp I play everything at 0 details, except the settings needed to don't lose any advantage you may have. So as soon as you got no FPS lag, and you can keep a reasonable line of sight it's a good.
Today, I keep playing 10yrs old shooter games at no details.

Gamer mind, not fancy graphics.

[moosepoop]

i think it would be awesome if the devs would allow us to scale down the graphics all the way to planetside 1 level. then everybody can play. :p

[FatherJack]

I have a c2duo @2.8Ghz, 4GB of ram (really only 3.2 because I am using XP) and a 260 gtx.

Luckily just for this game I ordered a i5 2500k (which I will overclock to 4.5ghz), 8GB of ram and windows 7. I wanted to get a 560 GTX as well but when you have a wife and kids its hard to justify spending that much money at once. I will sneak it in a couple of months time though ;)

[Sephirex]

I'm doing a C2Quad, 8 gb, and 460 gtx. It's the CPU that makes me nervous, as my card could probably handle the game on my 1280x1024 monitor.

[Reefpirate]

Why the hell would you do that, since player/vehicle shadows allow you to see them approach from behind/above and behind objects. In many cases, they can be your first warning.

Personally I'd rather turn shadows off and miss the rare opportunity to notice an air vehicle approaching (should be looking at the sky anyways if you're spotting for air vehicles) and get an extra 15-20 fps. Particularly if I end up struggling around the 30 FPS mark, if I can bump that FPS up by turning shadows off it's a no-brainer for me.

Frames Per Second trumps all for me when it comes to multiplayer shooters, or multiplayer anything for that matter (I play SC2 on absolute minimum settings as well).

[Noctis]

3/4 of the above stated computer specs are far from "Low End" definition in my opinion.

[MrKWalmsley]

I've got two words for you:
Sony Vaio.

:(

[Mepper]

Trust me, my systems are low end.

And although some people would never turn of (for example) shadows, at least give us players with low end specs the freedom to turn them off.

If you don't want to turn everything down well then don't, but let me turn down whatever I want.

This is just like fov. Just give me the option to take whatever fov pleases me, I should be allowed to take everything between 1 and 180. And I do know playing with a ridiculous fov won't work, but just give me the option, it won't hurt anyone.

[Tatwi]

I have two 3.0 ghz Xeon processors, 3 gigs of RAM, and a single Radeon HD 6850. I don't expect to run this game very well, but I'm going to wait and see how it plays before spending the money on expensive upgrades.

Xeons. That's awesome. What motherboard are you using? Did it come with PCI-E or AGP? There weren't a lot of those out there!

Personally, I'm sticking with my Asus P5k-VM motherboard / Core 2 Quad 2.33GHz / nvidia GTS450 1 GB GDDR5 video card, 6GB DDR2 667MHz RAM computer, because I'm in no way unhappy with it.

I bought this motherboard five years ago as part of my upgrade plan and it's worked out really well. What I have now is like a super computer compared to what I had back in the early 2000s. For instance, I went from transcoding a DVD into an xvid file taking 90 minutes (with a P4 3.0GHz cpu) to taking less than 20 minutes! Unfortunately, socket 775 core2 processors never came down in price like the Core i3/i5 and DDR2 RAM is outrageously expensive compared to DDR3, so it would cost more to upgrade parts on this motherboard than it would to buy a new motherboard/core i3 2120/4g ram - and the i3 would beat any core2 quad in gaming anyhow...

TL;DR: Meh. I'll turn the settings down and only consider upgrading if 4x AA is too taxing on the system to playable. The "jaggies" bother me!

[Noctis]

I think they will, don't worry about it. Just saying at same skill level and same equipment, in a plain and easy engagement the player with more FPS wins.
Which means, FPS > Stunning Graphics, as soon as you play with no FPS drop you are good to become the best player around.

[Ruffdog]

I did the Eramus thing myself, and you'll be out drinking and shagging and not doing so much gaming anyway (and gaming should not be on your mind when you're on an Erasmus exchange...and this is coming from a hardcore geek gamer, sorta).


This.

Take it from a married guy with a mortgage and 2 kids: There's plenty of time in life to play games. Get drinking and shagging. Safety first though soldier! :D
Welcome to the UK!

[Trolltaxi]

core i5 2500K without distinct graphic card here... it will be an interesting experience.

Technically the IGP3000 is a Dx10.1 capable chip, but it's clear that it lacks power to use it above the lowest settings.

On the other hand, the Forgelight engine is said to be damn well scaleble - we will see how well it actually is. SOE building PS2 and EQ2 around it, so it may mean that it is scaleble _upwards_ from this level, so it will still be able to provide decent visual experience in 3-5 years too. PS2 is said to run on 5 years old rigs too - but that doesn't mean it will be enjoyable.

Still, bad sex is better than no sex, and there is no such things like bad sex - when it's bad, it is actually still quite good! :)

[Rivenshield]

I'm currently running:

-Athlon 3.3 triple core
-4 gigs RAM
-Radeon 4670 video card w/1 gig memory
-90 gig Corsair SSD boot drive with a 500 gig Seagate for data

Is there even a hint of a ghost of a whisper of recommended specs for this game yet...? What is liable to be the biggest bottleneck? Is a game that has to display hundreds of moving objects at once going to be a memory hog more than a video hog? or is it liable to be the other way around?

What's your best educated guess?

[MrKWalmsley]

I hope SOE put's their cloud device to good use.

[Noctis]

I'm currently running:

-Athlon 3.3 triple core
-4 gigs RAM
-Radeon 4670 video card w/1 gig memory
-90 gig Corsair SSD boot drive with a 500 gig Seagate for data

Is there even a hint of a ghost of a whisper of recommended specs for this game yet...? What is liable to be the biggest bottleneck? Is a game that has to display hundreds of moving objects at once going to be a memory hog more than a video hog? or is it liable to be the other way around?

What's your best educated guess?

CPU intensive unless you plan playing on a 50" screen.
And no, Recommended specs will be out when tech test ends.

Iek.

[Chrispin]

Xeons. That's awesome. What motherboard are you using? Did it come with PCI-E or AGP? There weren't a lot of those out there!

Personally, I'm sticking with my Asus P5k-VM motherboard / Core 2 Quad 2.33GHz / nvidia GTS450 1 GB GDDR5 video card, 6GB DDR2 667MHz RAM computer, because I'm in no way unhappy with it.

I bought this motherboard five years ago as part of my upgrade plan and it's worked out really well. What I have now is like a super computer compared to what I had back in the early 2000s. For instance, I went from transcoding a DVD into an xvid file taking 90 minutes (with a P4 3.0GHz cpu) to taking less than 20 minutes! Unfortunately, socket 775 core2 processors never came down in price like the Core i3/i5 and DDR2 RAM is outrageously expensive compared to DDR3, so it would cost more to upgrade parts on this motherboard than it would to buy a new motherboard/core i3 2120/4g ram - and the i3 would beat any core2 quad in gaming anyhow...

TL;DR: Meh. I'll turn the settings down and only consider upgrading if 4x AA is too taxing on the system to playable. The "jaggies" bother me!

I think my motherboard must be specially made for my model of HP workstation computer called xw8200. My dad just happened to be working at a hospital when they were about to throw some nice computers out, so we took a workstation home and I gave it a new graphics card and RAM and it was ready to go! The motherboard has 2 PCI slots and one PCI-E, no AGP, so I can't have dual video cards unfortunately.

I was pretty much in your situation. This system is miles ahead of the last one I had, but now if I want to upgrade I'll have to shell out the money for a new motherboard first. At least it was mostly free and it came with a really nice easy-access case!

[Rico Suave]

AMD Phenom II X4 840T processor 2.9
6 gigs RAM

And my coworker (who upgrades his computer like clockwork) lent my an old Radeon HD 4890 and a 500 watt power supply. I spent more then an hour trying to get the damn things to fit in the small tower (The graphics card barely fits) and I had to move the CD drive in order to fit the new power supply, but it took me a half hour to realize that I had been trying to pull out my CD drive the wrong way and had been raging about what infernal contraption was holding it, then I realized that the front cover comes off.

Yeah...I'm still gonna play this game.

[Sturmhardt]

lol, nice thread, I like your style (although I got the bling bling :cool: )

[vVRedOctoberVv]

All I can do is wish you luck. They've pretty much come right out and said that a Nvidia 8800 "won't be fun"... What exactly that means, I don't know, but it's not a good sign.

I will say that once you dial graphics down all the way (hopefully they'll allow that to make a difference)

Two things will affect your gameplay more than anything else:

Internet Connection
A decent connection is a must, just from the sheer volume of players/data being transferred.

CPU
To handle the huge number of calculations required by the hundreds of people, thousands of rounds flying, all the little "details" that you normally don't notice.


RAM
For the above, also



Basically, the same things that hampered X3, for the same reasons. The sheer scale of the game, by it's very nature, makes it demanding on these particular things. Graphics, you can tweak. This other stuff, there's not a damn thing you can do about.

[Rivenshield]

All I can do is wish you luck. They've pretty much come right out and said that a Nvidia 8800 "won't be fun"...
My knowledge of video cards is kind of vague -- I'm not part of the power-gamer crowd -- but my rig runs Skyrim on 'High' with the HQ patch, and I'm just rocking a Radeon HD 4670 as aforesaid....

...and I go and look up an Nvidia 8800 and that's like a $220+ card! Who said this and when?

[snaffe]

Will be interesting to see if multiple cores (6+) will be an good? Or will it be i5 all the way?

[Rivenshield]

Will be interesting to see if multiple cores (6+) will be an good? Or will it be i5 all the way?

If it's as processor-intensive as a lot of the folks in this thread are speculating, I would God damn *hope* Forgelight supports multiprocessing.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Nvidia 8800 is an old card. Probably 5+ years old. It's not that it's BAD persay, it's just very old. That's probably why it's 200+ bucks. Not as many available. But they are still respectable.

Higby or some such tweeted it within the last two weeks or so.

My laptop has an ATI Radeon 5470 I think it is. They actually have a number scheme these days. 1st number is series, second number is a performance scale (higher is better) and third number is also a performance scale, within that model. Example 5(series) 4(low-to-midrange) 7(high end of, with more memory and higher speed). In other words, it's a moderate card.

Nvidia uses something similar. My brother's desktop is a 560. 5 (series) 6 (mid-to-high range). 580 being the highest one. Anyway, you get the idea.

Also, on the older 8 and 9 series cards, something they've been doing is making DUAL cards, so they are still "appealing" as a budget performance card. That is, it is ONE physical card, but it has TWO cores in it. It's like an SLI, but not, kind of. Anyway, that's probably why some of them you're looking at are more expensive.

Will be interesting to see if multiple cores (6+) will be an good? Or will it be i5 all the way?

Anybody that is not incorporating multi-cores into their programs are just big BOOBS. Whatever an individual's opinion of SOE may be, they are assuredly not THAT stupid! Multi-cores have been around too long now.

[Rivenshield]

Nvidia 8800 is an old card. Probably 5+ years old. It's not that it's BAD persay, it's just very old.

/maximum facepalm

Blah. I searched for Nvidia 8800 at TigerDirect and was getting stuff like this for some reason:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191450&CatId=3669

Never mind me. I dumb.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

core i5 2500K without distinct graphic card here... it will be an interesting experience.

Technically the IGP3000 is a Dx10.1 capable chip, but it's clear that it lacks power to use it above the lowest settings.

On the other hand, the Forgelight engine is said to be damn well scaleble - we will see how well it actually is. SOE building PS2 and EQ2 around it, so it may mean that it is scaleble _upwards_ from this level, so it will still be able to provide decent visual experience in 3-5 years too. PS2 is said to run on 5 years old rigs too - but that doesn't mean it will be enjoyable.

Still, bad sex is better than no sex, and there is no such things like bad sex - when it's bad, it is actually still quite good! :)

I think all you'll be doing is dry humping, tbh. Sorry. :(

[Truuth]

Wow thats lame i guess my core 2 duo 2.0ghz and ati radon 3400 dont have no chance at running it, yeah funny how they said a 4 to 5 years old system could run it never can hold a promise

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Wow thats lame i guess my core 2 duo 2.0ghz and ati radon 3400 dont have no chance at running it, yeah funny how they said a 4 to 5 years old system could run it never can hold a promise


Yeah, they were wanting that originally, then as they got into it they were like... "Damn. That ain't happenin'"

It's not really "their fault" they just underestimated what they were doing. Like I said above, by nature of the scale of the game, it doesn't matter what kind of graphics card you have, the system on whole, needs to be high-end, because of the VOLUME of information being processed. I never did put any stock in that "promise" because when I saw "low-end computer" and "2000+ players" used in the same sentence, I burst out laughing. They seriously did not think that through.



We can't rock it like it's 1995 forever... Eventually, we have to come back to 2012 :)

[That one noob]

Personally I'm going to be surprised if I can even run the damn game past menu.
2.2ghz AMD Turion Dual Core Mobile
ATI Radeon 4200 Mobile HD
4gb of RAM.

Hopefully It'll be optimized really well XD.

[Landtank]

Yeah here's to hoping, just tried to play LA Noire and it was playable, but not very fun.

[Griffevent]

I wonder if the CPU is going to have to process ALL that happens on the continent, or just what happens nearby. I got a P7350 (Core2Duo 2Ghz)...

[Ladine]

Yep i am in this boat too ! I am gonna try playing with a Gforce gt 440 2g,Athlon64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+2.1GHz, 4 gigs of ram and windows vista. Job situation where i live is sucky hard to even find a fast food job here atm :evil:

[Marinealver]

Hey how about a connection from Europe or Asia? Would that count as a low end system because we know those computers are going to be the ones with technical problems.

[snaffe]

I thought I had a shit computer. Some shockers in this thread :P

[andehh]

Quad core 2.4ghz
4gb 800mhz
Geforce 8800gts

All played on 1600 x 1200.

I could be in for a world of pain! :(


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[Aberdash]

My "informants" tell me getting it to run at all is a feat.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

I wonder if the CPU is going to have to process ALL that happens on the continent, or just what happens nearby. I got a P7350 (Core2Duo 2Ghz)...

It's mostly just the stuff in your area that is being tracked. While being more demanding than PS1 was... It's also going to be better optimised with enhanced support for multi-core hardware. So it hopefully will balance itself out a little bit. It depends on how much scaling they allow in the finished product.

[Anshinritsumai]

CPU: Intel Core2Duo E6600 2.4ghz (dual core)
RAM: 6gb DDR2 (can't remember latency)
GPU: NVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ 1gb

Native Resolution: 1920x1080

Can play most games (Skyrim, Tribes Ascend, etc) on high settings with a steady 30+ fps, exceptions being Battlefield 3 and Blacklight Retribution.

Gonna be in a world of hurt when this comes out.

[RawketLawnchair]

I feel like I'm in the same boat as well, although I don't have the crappiest PC out there, it needs to be upgraded badly.

Intel i3 Duo (5K series I think.)
Off-brand Asus Mobo
3GB RAM
ATI RADEON 5870HD 1GIG

Like I said its not the worst, but these days you can't be running games without problems on an i3 and only 3GBs of Ram.
On top of that, the card I have underperforms.

[Infektion]

I'm doing a C2Quad, 8 gb, and 460 gtx. It's the CPU that makes me nervous, as my card could probably handle the game on my 1280x1024 monitor.

Why are you worried? What kind of quad? I have no doubt that my C2Q9650 @ atleast 4.0Ghz can't handle this game.

Quad core 2.4ghz
4gb 800mhz
Geforce 8800gts

All played on 1600 x 1200.

I could be in for a world of pain! :(


That a Q8600? a little lacking in FSB and cache. You should get some 1066Mhz ram to over clock that sucker a little more. Get a cheap new video card, save up 150 and buy a used one from overclock.net. YW :D

[shadar]

I have a pretty decent system I expect will be able to run on high (as opposed to ultra, though perhaps, as it runs BF3 mostly ultra?) but in the same breath I REALLY want Planetside 2 to be low end system friendly. I'd tune out super high def grass if it meant a few more people could play. Planetside isn't about being the prettiest.

I got a lot of friends who just don't have the money for BF3 friendly PCs not that I'm entirely sure these PCs exist mind you, installing that game was the hardest thing I've ever done.

I dont think you are going to have any problems with the game not being high enough end for you considering that there are fetures that cant even be turned on

[Missundaztood]

Roll back any thoughts about having wireless :)

Really, the UK is in the backwater when it comes to broadband.

Erm, no it isn't.

What on earth are you going on about?

[Ratstomper]

Yep i am in this boat too ! I am gonna try playing with a Gforce gt 440 2g,Athlon64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+2.1GHz, 4 gigs of ram and windows vista. Job situation where i live is sucky hard to even find a fast food job here atm :evil:

You definitely aren't the only one.

I'll still have to upgrade to even start PS2. Pentium 4 single core and a NVidia 6800. I'm currently trying to save right now, but the job I have practically pays peanuts. :(

[TitanX]

I got a 15" 2010 MBP. i5 at 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM (except Im running XP, so only 4), but only a 256mb gt 330m. How am I gonna fare?

I've been able to run most recent releases at medium settings fairly well, sometimes with the resolution knocked down a bit from 1400x900. Skyrim, Deus Ex, Civ 5, and SWTOR all run fine, but I havent played CoD or BF3.

[Electrofreak]

I'm currently using a laptop with a crappy dual-core Intel cpu and an integrated Intel GMA 4500 graphics chip, which is pretty awful. The laptop is missing several keys, having been run across by a frightened cat, and the spacebar sticks badly (barely popping back up) after my daughter spilled a cup of juice on the keyboard several weeks back.

The letter c key does not work. I actually just click on a bookmark, copy out the c from .com via right-click, and type the c by pressing ctrl-v. It's almost second nature, which is quite sad.

The thing is, I'm not a poor person. I make a reasonable living as an Enterprise WAN Data technician and I'm looking favorable for a promotion soon. I don't have any debt, I have good credit and low rent.

However, I have a 3-year-old child, my fiancee is a stay-at-home Mom and so is supported by my income, and I just spent 6 figures on a house in the second-most affluent neighborhood in my state so that my child can attend one of the best schools in the country. My family comes before everything else in my life; I will give them the very best that I can afford.

It also doesn't help that my cobbled-together budget desktop (Triple-core Phenom running an NVIDIA 8800GTS that I revived from the dead by baking it in the oven and building a fan housing out of cardboard and duct-tape (http://sean-the-electrofreak.blogspot.com/2011/03/necromancer.html)) had its motherboard die just a few weeks back. Now I'm digging through my spare parts to see what I can put together.

Maybe after the renovations on the new house are done I'll be able to think about getting a new desktop; but chances are with the new mortgage it won't be an amazing one (unless that promotion pays a lot better than I think it will!).

I really love PS2, but sacrifices need to be made for the good of the family.

* sigh... *

[GLaDOS]

Personally I'm going to be surprised if I can even run the damn game past menu.
2.2ghz AMD Turion Dual Core Mobile
ATI Radeon 4200 Mobile HD
4gb of RAM.

Hopefully It'll be optimized really well XD.

Hey, I'm pretty much the same! Except my AMD Turion doesn't say Mobile for some reason and is 2.3 GHz. Also, I have the ATI Radeon 4250 Mobile HD. Here's for hoping we can load up the menu!

Also, I'm totally down with setting the graphics down to PS1 levels if it lets me actually run the game.

[Toppopia]

I am on a laptop with good specs, except for the Nvidea GeForce 230M graphics card. Bring on the 800x600 resolution!!! :lol:

[RJTravis]

Man I feel for the people with out high end PCs.

I use to always buy my pc every 4 years & spend 3-5K I just started building my own PC this year by my self I thought it be hard but its almost moronic proof xD

I got a

Intel core i7 Extreme 975 @3.9 ghz
EVGA 132-BL-E765 Motherboard
16 DDr3 triple channel Corsair memory
4 way SLI 580 GTX
Water cooled cpu H100
A corsair DW800 case
1200w PSU

t took about 15min to set it all up & getting it running on a 3 monitor display.

It only cost me 1032$ was happy to go from a crappy pc to running everything on ultra

Hopfully you guys run into some money for a pc.

[Trolltaxi]

Electrofreak is the hero of our era!

[Toppopia]

And i hope these devs optomise the game properly, because i can play something like Just Cause 2 with no lag on minimum graphics and max resolution, but then play Mount and Blade on mimimum graphics and lag when there only 30 people playing. This shouldn't be a problem for Sony, and Mount and Blade was made by an independent developer but still. Make sure it runs on low end systems.

Thanks from all low end system people.

[camycamera]

for me, on game-debate.com, there was an estimate if your PC could run PS2 or not, just based purely off screen shots and videos and such. so, it turns out apparently my shitty ATI randeon 4500 (with 2gb ram) will (estimated) be able to run PS2 on MEDUIM graphics. i hope this is true. i can't run Battlefield 3 even on low settings, i can *just* run Crysis 2 on "lowest" settings (the lowest settings is high... :(), and according to systemrequirmentslab.com i cant run Tribes: Ascend.

however, on TotalBiscut's Planetside 2 E3 Stream - Day 2 - (feat. Totalbiscuit and Margaret Krohn) video, there was talk about the system requirements. (you can see the video below) at 1:16:45 of the video, TB asks one of the devs (forgot the dev's name) about the system requirements. he responds by saying that:

"from what you are seeing now we do have a very high spec system running what you see, but that doesn't mean you will need a high spec system to play this game. we have TONNES of graphical options, our programming department are just graphic nuts, they want you to be able to turn on and off tonnes of different things, so if you have a low end machine, you can turn all the setting to low or medium and you still don't loose anything from the gameplay. the gameplay is still there, and you can still feel like you are in a massive world."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viKwpkC_P9s

that gets my hopes up that i will be able to run this game :D


also, i hope that the optimisation is as outstanding as Max Payne 3's. according to systemrequirmentslab.com i will be able to run max payne 3 COMPLETELY smooth, and from other videos on youtube, it has been praised for its optimisation. that is what i would like planetside 2 to do. look stunning, even on pieces of shit PC's like ours. but even if it doesn't... it is still going to be not only the best F2P SCI-FI MMO FPS, but one of the greatest FPSs ever made :D

[Teradanius]

I'm currently using a laptop with a crappy dual-core Intel cpu and an integrated Intel GMA 4500 graphics chip, which is pretty awful.

I have an intel GMA x4500 intergrated but i'm using acer aspire so I had a spare slot I could use I went and bought a second hand ATI Radeon HD 5450 from CEX for £20 and it works perfectly without falter and no missing components I went crazy after that and got all the mmofps I couldn't play before I can now play T: Ascend on High Detail setting. you just need to look for the right one I did want a passive one without a cooling fan cause one it's quieter and two it turns of to save energy when your not using it for anything. So try going to a hardware store they do sometimes have good prices especially when they sell second hand games.

I am on a laptop with good specs, except for the Nvidea GeForce 230M graphics card. Bring on the 800x600 resolution!!! :lol:

how do you see snipers on a screen that small eagle vison or stretching your corneas out of their sockets?


anyways sidetracking a little bit if you won the the millions lottery before planetside 2 is full released what would get e.g. what desktop or laptop or both and what hardware would you have inside so you can play planets side at any setting?

Me simple as i'd have an alienware fx dexsktop the one with 28 colours for lighting on the tower and the cooling gel system then i'd max it out (apart from memory I only just reached over quarter on my 1TB hard drive theres no need for any major numbers for hard drives so 1 or 2 TB is enougth although it has 4 hardrive slots so you could probly reach 4TB if the computer can handle it then the best processor these new I series are supposed to be pretty big time apparently and finally I would have LCD 50" Inch moniter with 3D glasses capability and a the best most capable graphics card (so in simple terms i'd go all out for a monster game machine) most rich guys buy a fancy car or private jet but one walking is healthier (unless leaving for holiday abroad) and i'm more of a gamer.

hopefully if I ever get better at my maths in the future i'll be doing level design (Dream Job, Success not yet verified!) i'm currently in arts and media combined (lv2) ive still got LV3 which ill actually start the proper stuff then finally after that ill be in uni maybe even work for SOE one day(kidding i'm not that lucky) ;)

[Saintlycow]

It also doesn't help that my cobbled-together budget desktop (Triple-core Phenom running an NVIDIA 8800GTS that I revived from the dead by baking it in the oven and building a fan housing out of cardboard and duct-tape (http://sean-the-electrofreak.blogspot.com/2011/03/necromancer.html)) had its motherboard die just a few weeks back. Now I'm digging through my spare parts to see what I can put together.



That's so cool. Amazing!

Anyhow, I have an i5 2500k, gtx 560TI, 8 gb ram and some cheap mobo that broke once, but got replaced for free and works now. So I should be fine. runs bf3 on med-high quite well. ( minus the fact that the game is terrible)

Im not as optimistic for the other pc. Its a core 2 duo @ 2.13 GHz with a 8600gts, 2 gb ram (hopefully it will become 4gb soon ) Probably just under the bubble :(

[sgtbjack]

Man, I'm hoping I can play this on my lap top, I don't feel like messing with my old ladies pc(I bought that for her, but its coated in viruses,malware, spyware, if you open the active programs theres about 200 running lol)


My lap tops, not the greatest though.

It's an asus
intel core 2 duo P8700 2.53GHz x 2.53GHz
6.00 GB
Nvidia gtx 260M

Who's gonna give me the horrid news lol

[Ghostwithbroken]

I only just reached over quarter on my 1TB hard drive theres no need for any major numbers for hard drives so 1 or 2 TB is enougth

http://static.tumblr.com/na2us0d/sNYlz9opx/ming.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

[Dkamanus]

http://static.tumblr.com/na2us0d/sNYlz9opx/ming.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

You know you love computers when u get a freaking smile on your face when you see the guy load 30+ programs at once and get pretty amazed by the fact that it didn't BLOW up xD

[Sunrock]

Being a poor college student, I have essentially 0 chance of getting a better gaming computer, so I will have to deal with my Asus k53-SV, equipped with a GT540m, an Intel i5 2410m, 6gb of RAM, and a 7200rpm mechanic hard drive.

Needless to say I'll get through it, but I would love to have $1000 to drop on a new lappy.

Here is a little tip if you have a small budget. Never ever buy a laptop for gaming. A stationary midi tower costume gaming PC for around $1500 will have the same or better benchmark score as gaming laptop for $3000 from alien ware.

And if you really in need of a laptop for school/work. Buy a cheap i3 laptop too just for that and you still save money.