Beta to start Monday/Tuesday

[Tim]

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227847911852097536

There we go then. Fingers crossed this doesn't move :groovy:

[Ranik Ortega]

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227847911852097536

There we go then. Fingers crossed this doesn't move :groovy:

Nice :D

[ThermalReaper]

I was happy, then I saw the word probably. :/
At least it's a confirmation.

[LegioX]

Good! I have a priority key, so hopefully i can get in next week. I'm sick of playing Rush in BF 3 to keep me busy until beta.

[Sephirex]

This thread got posted earlier and moved into the Beta thread. Same might happen here.

[Lumberchuk]

It sucks that I'm out of town during the week :( Oh well it will probably be a few waves before I get in anyway. I just hope I get in by the first weekend in August

[EisenKreutzer]

Brace for disappointment!

[LegioX]

I really can't take waiting any longer. I have re-installed about 4 games onto my computer just to keep me somewhat sane until beta starts. AHHHH!!

[Sephirex]

Prediction down to a specific 2 days? Only a week remaining? My disappointment will be so great if this gets pushed back.

[Synapses]

Brace for disappointment!

You are wrong my friend, you are wrong. Disappointment will be to a low, promise.

[maddoggg]

Rocketman Scream - YouTube

[Littleman]

You are wrong my friend, you are wrong. Disappointment will be to a low, promise.

HOLD IT!

The real question for this thread is: Which disappointment do you prefer?

[ ]A. The beta's start is getting pushed back.
[ ]B. The beta has started, but you weren't invited in the first wave.

If B then:

[ ]C. But only if the wave invites are a week(s) apart.

[QuantumMechanic]

Remember this is an estimate, not a promise. This date is likely to move a bit.

But chances for sometime next week or weekend sound pretty good.

Wish they would let us download the client ahead of time so we can jump right in when we get the email...

[Crator]

I've not heard Smed talk in absolute dates except for when he was asked if beta would start before August and the answer was YES. And the other one here which is if beta would start on Monday or Tuesday of next week (the last two days of July) and the answer was YES. Even though, the latest Mon/Tue comment wasn't exactly an absolute since the tweet has 'probably' in it. :P

[Ranik Ortega]

Rocketman Scream - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IidXeuD0eSk&list=FLHUA-FLAqwieqYgdGmNGR3Q&index=10&feature=plpp_video)

That is me every given moment of this week. :rofl:

[Canadian Vanu]

GREAT, now I have to cancel my vacation.:cry:

[Comet]

I have to say that Smed has given extremely accurate information and has more or less done what he said he was going to do when he said he was going to do it.

[Ruffdog]

Some will be much more disappointed than others. I do not envy the mods once all the bile starts getting posted. With respect to Hamma's post on no whining, it will happen regardless

Good luck everyone

[Gonefshn]

I'm so excited I hope at the least we see it next week.

[Greenthy]

Some new tech invites went out as well.
Secretly hoping I'm in, but I'm trying not to set myself up for the dissapointment. :D

[Braveliltoaster]

I hope im the first one in :)

[Bittermen]

Oh yes oh yessss

[bullet]

Going to be a ton of nerd rage next week. Should be fun.

[Eyeklops]

By adding the word "probably" into the question, he gave Smed a free "soon"

[WiteBeam]

By the skin of their teeth still July.
And more tech invites going out now.

[Buren]

Does anyone know how long it is planned to run? I am going to be gone the first week of August returning the 8th. Here's hoping I won't miss it.

[WiteBeam]

Does anyone know how long it is planned to run? I am going to be gone the first week of August returning the 8th. Here's hoping I won't miss it.

A few months atleast. You'll be fine.
After the closed beta with the keys, they will open it up to everyone before the true release. It will take quite some time to hammer out the kinks.

[SFJake]

Does anyone know how long it is planned to run? I am going to be gone the first week of August returning the 8th. Here's hoping I won't miss it.

I'm honestly hoping that once the beta is opened, it stays opened until the game is released. Maybe a week or two at best of downtime during the two.

Thats how I've seen it happen here and there. Might be selfish of me to want it this way, but there :)

[WiteBeam]

I'm honestly hoping that once the beta is opened, it stays opened until the game is released. Maybe a week or two at best of downtime during the two.

Thats how I've seen it happen here and there. Might be selfish of me to want it this way, but there :)

I agree and wouldn't think they would close the game for any time between open beta and release. People will be able to use the cash shop and buy things toward the end of open beta I'm sure. There really wouldn't be a reason to turn the game off when games are no longer being sold in stores but rather being downloaded online. It should just roll right into being 'released'.

[Sephirex]

I'm honestly hoping that once the beta is opened, it stays opened until the game is released. Maybe a week or two at best of downtime during the two.

Thats how I've seen it happen here and there. Might be selfish of me to want it this way, but there :)

It was stated in an interview the Beta would be open until release. So no worries.

[Littleman]

SOE has said they plan to release PS2 THIS year.

We're just days away from month 8 ;) I imagine the beta will be ongoing, and despite my first post in this thread, I do believe invites will be akin to the tech test invites where they're only 2-3 days apart if that long. For the most part, that plan is probably to stem the cluster-**** of everyone downloading and logging in at once. Release day scenarios almost never go well for MMO's and Planetside likely wouldn't have been an exception.

[SUBARU]

I think beta will be "soon"

[SgtExo]

I'm building nuclear reactors in minecraft until i get my invite, so I should be good for another week.

[Lumberchuk]

I think beta will be "soon"

You interning at SOE or something?

[Sephirex]

you may be a 9 year vet that doesn't get in on the first wave, and that's going to be an interesting thread creation spam waiting to happen.

I think a few people already jumped the gun on those threads.

[Death2All]

Best of luck to everyone getting in for the first wave. Here's to hoping that they somehow screw up the beta invites and everyone gets in on the first go

[Sephirex]

Best of luck to everyone getting in for the first wave. Here's to hoping that they somehow screw up the beta invites and everyone gets in on the first go

Sounds great on paper. Until all 100,000 beta testers realize there's 10,000 players worth of servers.



With a lot of the team going to China, I think some poor souls at SOE are in for a long weekend.

[Ranik Ortega]

Good God, I know right! I mean, the being in China part will probably be fucking awesome... but the 20+ hour flight.... That's gotta take it out of a brother.....

The flight to china is a painful thing. Even more so when you have an old man next to you who won't stop talking. I will remember that flight for the rest of my life and I hope the gang doesn't suffer the same fate I did. :(

[Littleman]

I think a few people already jumped the gun on those threads.

Those aren't the only threads people have been jumping the gun over.

How many threads on mechanics no one here has experienced are there again?

[Shadowrath]

I can't wait this is going to be amazing!

[KhaaaaaanX]

For those who get in, it will be interesting to see who is actually testing and looking for bugs. It's been my experience in the beta's I've been in (and yes I'm guilty too) that a lot of people just try to get into beta so they can play/judge the game.

Other than that. Monday/Tuesday?

/squeee!

[Comet]

You'll always get that crowd Khaaaaan. I can't blame them though, testing can be a very tedious thing when done correctly.

Also, they are going to want to know how certain systems flow, base captures and combined arms fighting feels so we will all have to naturally just play the game as well to give feedback on that level.

[Accuser]

My vacation is August 10-19... Please oh please let me be in Beta before that O_o

[Littleman]

Also, they are going to want to know how certain systems flow, base captures and combined arms fighting feels so we will all have to naturally just play the game as well to give feedback on that level.

Mostly, this is what they're looking for. Officially hired testers find a bulk of the bugs and for the most part, bug hunting doesn't ever stop. It doesn't matter if the game is in early beta or 10 years old, it doesn't stop.

But one thing people need to understand is that not ALL bugs will be squashed, and some will be intentionally left alone simply because they aren't high enough priority and too risky to remove. Removing bugs can cause a bunch of new ones, and they could be much worse than the one that just got fixed.

[OutlawDr]

I can almost already taste the tears.

[Doxy]

Great news! Hope my pc gamer key gets in early =]

[Flaropri]

I can almost already taste the tears.

They taste of chocolate liquor.

[WiteBeam]

I can almost already taste the tears.

Lol like this?
http://www.morethings.com/fan/south_park/photo_gallery/eric-cartman-110.jpg

[soulsurfsublime]

Have to say it is great news, on the other hand, that word "probably" he snuck in there at the end...... If they don't send out invites next week I am not playing Planetside 2.... until they send me an invite :groovy:

[WiteBeam]

It's still the same thing they said last Thursday. That it would be starting in a little over a week. That would be next Monday.

[Sledgecrushr]

Yayyy, we are so damned close I can see beta from here.

[soulsurfsublime]

I am starting to notice a few of my favorite posters have been MIA for awhile. Starting to think I am jealous as hell! Next week will hopefully resolve this issue.

[WiteBeam]

I am starting to notice a few of my favorite posters have been MIA for awhile. Starting to think I am jealous as hell! Next week will hopefully resolve this issue.

In that latest beta video, turn the quality all the way up and read the names in the kill spam. ;)

[QuantumMechanic]

I'm sure the wife will take the news ok when I tell her I've cancelled our Disneyland vacation for the year. Right?

[Emperor]

http://i.imgur.com/BEzt0.png

[Littleman]

I am starting to notice a few of my favorite posters have been MIA for awhile. Starting to think I am jealous as hell! Next week will hopefully resolve this issue.

Yeah well, people in the tests can't really talk here, because they'd be compelled to speak from experience. You know... educated opinions.

What we have here is a far, far cry from educated. Such is the curse of not being selected. As a result, they stick to the exclusive and official test forums where they can speak with other educated people.

However, I'm afraid once the beta invites really kick off and a lot of us get in, this bit I mentioned in another thread will unfortunately have relevance and start to really muck up the atmosphere of the test forums (if it isn't already terrible: )

Good news is all the fears relayed on this board are based purely on speculation and conjecture. The bad news? People will be walking into the tests with these thoughts and ideas already pre-meditated, making them even MORE biased about what should and shouldn't be, instead of taking what actually is at face value and evaluating it from there.

[derito]

I'm sure the wife will take the news ok when I tell her I've cancelled our Disneyland vacation for the year. Right?

If there's a queue to play you can ask her to wait with you. Just like Disneyland but cheaper.

[WiteBeam]

http://i.imgur.com/BEzt0.png

I can't stop laughing.

[soulsurfsublime]

Emperor that is funny as hell! Littleman I couldn't agree with you more.

[Mythoclast]

Ha, my new comp gets delivered on Monday. Let's hope IT doesn't get moved either.

[Rivenshield]

SOE has said they plan to release PS2 THIS year.
From freaking ALPHA to RELEASE in just a few months? For most large-scale business enterprise software -- and this certainly qualifies -- beta testing can go six months to sky's the limit.

That's awfully, awfully optimistic. We'll see.

[Comet]

Uhhh... not for a shooter, no. 6 months for beta testing is awfully, awfully unrealistic.

[Braveliltoaster]

Betaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sameer]

umm, yea, 6 months is too short. Look at Firefall, theyve been in beta for months with no signs of release. Look at out much of an amazing job they are doing. Most impressive thing is the amount of depth for each class. I hope Sony can follow what Red5 is doing.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

umm, yea, 6 months is too short. Look at Firefall, theyve been in beta for months with no signs of release. Look at out much of an amazing job they are doing. Most impressive thing is the amount of depth for each class. I hope Sony can follow what Red5 is doing.

I'm feeling like a 6 month beta is a soft release kind of thing.

[Xaine]

Brace for disappointment!

This.

[Littleman]

As an F2P, the second the game goes open beta, it's essentially released.

Do you really expect closed beta to last 4-6 months? Do you want it to?

I'm going by SOE's last mention of release, which thus far, is a planned 2012 release until stated otherwise. I'm not going to hold them to it and call them nasty names and spew harsh words if they fail to deliver however, because ****, the second I'm in and playing, I don't flippin' care what phase we're in!

[Comet]

Reality is PS2 has been in development for a long while, and, as Higby said himself, the game has to be released at some point (re: sooner rather than later) to start bringing in some money.

[OutlawDr]

Even if it starts Monday/Tuesday, its still closed beta and its going to start relatively small and then ramp up. In other words, majority of us won't be getting in Mon/Tues. Stock up on tissues.

[The Degenatron]

Getting upgraded internet connection on Sunday. Things are going better than expected.

[Zulthus]

Who do I have to kill to get into the first wave? :lol:

[Novice bot]

From freaking ALPHA to RELEASE in just a few months? For most large-scale business enterprise software -- and this certainly qualifies -- beta testing can go six months to sky's the limit.

That's awfully, awfully optimistic. We'll see.

Its a F2P title, so no problem. As long as the cash shop is ready and functional in the open beta, they can keep it in open beta as long as they want to.

[Rivenshield]

Its a F2P title, so no problem. As long as the cash shop is ready and functional in the open beta, they can keep it in open beta as long as they want to.
/shakes head

That's picking semantic nits and thinking wishful thoughts. We still don't even know if they intend to charge for the client; according to the official web site, they have yet to release data on their business model. (I think they should, to keep out the script kiddies and multiboxers, or at least harden the target. But that's a whole 'nother conversation).

I'm telling you, I've done software development for HP and the state of California and places like that... and you do NOT go from alpha to release that quickly in the real world. The best we can realistically hope for is a Christmas release. More likely is March-April, which would correspond to the fiscal year most businesses use. About the time Smed and his peers sit down to haggle over departmental budgets, he can hit them up for some more ad dollars, because hey! PS2 is going LIIIIIIVE!

If I'm wrong, you can fax me a punch in the nose and remind me of what I said, and I will apologize profusely and go back to squashing smurfs instead of filing bug reports. :p

[noxious]

/shakes head

That's picking semantic nits and thinking wishful thoughts. We still don't even know if they intend to charge for the client; according to the official web site, they have yet to release data on their business model. (I think they should, to keep out the script kiddies and multiboxers, or at least harden the target. But that's a whole 'nother conversation).
We do know that the game will be completely free. They've asserted this over and over.

As for the rest of your post, few games spend six months in public beta and nine months is almost unheard of. Being free to play as it is, it is likely that PlanetSide 2 will follow a similar path to release as Tribes: Ascend, where the beta designation might remain long after the game is freely available. From the end user's perspective, when this point is reached, the game has effectively been released.

[Rivenshield]

We do know that the game will be completely free. They've asserted this over and over.
I must have missed the memo. Their web site says:

WHAT IS THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR PLANETSIDE 2?
A:We will have more information on this in the months ahead. Sign up to receive our email updates and like us on Facebook to be in the know.

Free to play simply means they won't charge a subscription fee, so far as I know.

As for the rest of your post, few games spend six months in public beta
What's the average for a MMORPG? I freely admit I don't know. Never worked on a game; I['m simply comparing it to the large-scale business enterprise system-thingies.

I'm more than willing to be proven wrong. I just don't see it happening that fast, is all.

[Sephirex]

What's the average for a MMORPG? I freely admit I don't know. Never worked on a game; I['m simply comparing it to the large-scale business enterprise system-thingies.

I'm more than willing to be proven wrong. I just don't see it happening that fast, is all.

This is where it gets tricky. This isn't an MMORPG. It's an MMOFPS. There's nothing really available to compare it to, but generally FPS's have a shorter Beta rate, since there isn't content tiers to worry about.

[IgloGlass]

I must have missed the memo. Their web site says:

WHAT IS THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR PLANETSIDE 2?
A:We will have more information on this in the months ahead. Sign up to receive our email updates and like us on Facebook to be in the know.

Free to play simply means they won't charge a subscription fee, so far as I know.


What's the average for a MMORPG? I freely admit I don't know. Never worked on a game; I['m simply comparing it to the large-scale business enterprise system-thingies.

I'm more than willing to be proven wrong. I just don't see it happening that fast, is all.

Sigh. The website isn't up to date at all, they don't even feature the different classes or anything! Suppose they will when open beta starts but now we'll just have to deal with it. The game will be completely free to play, akin to League of Legends, everything that is associated with gameplay will be possible to aquire without spending a single dime. However cosmetic items and boosters will be available for Station Cash, which is bought with real money.

I believe there is no set average for how long the beta usually lasts, it has so much to do with wether the publisher feels the need to release the game immediately or not I think. For example, the Mists of Pandaria beta has been going on forever and it's either going to be awesome or Blizzard is seriously slacking. That or waiting for the right time to release the expansion - might not be the best idea to release it during summer.

So to summarize.. TL;DR
Website is not up to date, watch videos for accurate information on the game and the beta will last for as long as the developers feel it should last, though the game is set for release (probably) this year according to Creative Director Matt Higby so even if it's a holiday release we are probably not looking at the beta lasting for longer than four months.

[Emperor]

What's the average for a MMORPG? I freely admit I don't know. Never worked on a game; I['m simply comparing it to the large-scale business enterprise system-thingies.
It varies. Some MMOs have drawn out betas that can last a month, even more. Some have a beta that lasts a week, stops, they release another beta build; rinse and repeat.

As Sephirex said, FPS betas are generally short, if there even is one.

[Rivenshield]

This is where it gets tricky. This isn't an MMORPG. It's an MMOFPS. There's nothing really available to compare it to

Yeah... but a MMORPG is the only game of comparable *scale.* And look at what laggy clusterhumps most 'raids' are in games like Everquest 2, which involve relatively few combatants. PS2 is attempting to scrape a third or more of the pop of an entire server and potentially have them all within eyeshot of each other, each running around doing their own murderous thing. That's an awfully tall order.

Ah well. We'll all find out in Higby's good time.

[Sephirex]

Yeah... but a MMORPG is the only game of comparable *scale.* And look at what laggy clusterhumps most 'raids' are in games like Everquest 2, which involve relatively few combatants. PS2 is attempting to scrape a third or more of the pop of an entire server and potentially have them all shooting at each other within eyeshot of each other. That's an awfully tall order.

Ah well. We'll all find out in Higby's good time.

The server's are handling the load just fine, but the clients are having difficulty. MMORPG's spend most of their time in Beta due to balancing problems and broken triggers. Optimization isn't the biggest time sink in MMORPG Beta development, but they don't even try for this kind of scale.

There's just really no way to guess.

[Grimster]

Awesome, hope they are able to keep the schedule. :)

[Dreamcast]

So are they done sending emails or are they still sending emails, all this week?

[IgloGlass]

So are they done sending emails or are they still sending emails, all this week?

Smedley said that they might but no one knows.

[Envenom]

I must have missed the memo. Their web site says:

WHAT IS THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR PLANETSIDE 2?
A:We will have more information on this in the months ahead. Sign up to receive our email updates and like us on Facebook to be in the know.

Free to play simply means they won't charge a subscription fee, so far as I know.




lol. It's be stated over and over and over that the game is free. The website FAQ is out of date. :lol:

[VSENSES]

/shakes head

..
I'm telling you, I've done software development for HP and the state of California and places like that... and you do NOT go from alpha to release that quickly in the real world. The best we can realistically hope for is a Christmas release. More likely is March-April, which would correspond to the fiscal year most businesses use. About the time Smed and his peers sit down to haggle over departmental budgets, he can hit them up for some more ad dollars, because hey! PS2 is going LIIIIIIVE!

If I'm wrong, you can fax me a punch in the nose and remind me of what I said, and I will apologize profusely and go back to squashing smurfs instead of filing bug reports. :p

I'm just here for the faxed punch offer :rolleyes:
Last summer BF3 were in alpha, then They had a short beta and then release less than 3 months later... So indeed this happen. :groovy:

[Simokon]

So when is Beta? :P

I kid, please don't beat me!

[Kitsune]

So when is Beta? :P

I kid, please don't beat me!

*flies a galaxy into Simokon and gently falls onto the ground next to his burning corpse.*

Hope yall have fun with beta though :domotwak:

[haticK]

Mists of Pandaria just got a release date for September 25. That game has been in beta since March. If a game like that only needs 6 months I doubt PS2 will take longer.

[Revanmug]

I'm just here for the faxed punch offer :rolleyes:
Last summer BF3 were in alpha, then They had a short beta and then release less than 3 months later... So indeed this happen. :groovy:

Please don't take BF3 as an example... That game SHOULD have been in beta for alot longer.
Rushed game is rush.

My biggest question about PS2 is if they intend to open the cash shop toward the end of their beta (and so not db reset) because at that point, it is pretty much release even though they consider it a beta.

They could of course just give back the SOE credit so you can spend it back but that sound like trouble for very little.

[WiteBeam]

Please don't take BF3 as an example... That game SHOULD have been in beta for alot longer.
Rushed game is rush.

My biggest question about PS2 is if they intend to open the cash shop toward the end of their beta (and so not db reset) because at that point, it is pretty much release even though they consider it a beta.

They could of course just give back the SOE credit so you can spend it back but that sound like trouble for very little.

I doubt they would reset anything. Come the end of open beta, the game will roll right into being released. People will keep what they have bought and what they have accomplished in the game.

[Dsent]

Please don't take BF3 as an example... That game SHOULD have been in beta for alot longer.
Rushed game is rush.

My biggest question about PS2 is if they intend to open the cash shop toward the end of their beta (and so not db reset) because at that point, it is pretty much release even though they consider it a beta.

They could of course just give back the SOE credit so you can spend it back but that sound like trouble for very little.

I actually just saw a Q&A with them where they stated the money would be returned if they ended up doing another reset (So yes cash shop would be open). It is possible near middle to late beta they would no longer reset.

Also just want to say with as many guns that each empire has there will be numerous balancing issues. This leads me to believe the beta may be longer then most think. Counter Strike: GO beta has been going on since atleast February.

[Xyntech]

Betas go quick (if there is a legitimate beta at all) on games that use rehashed formulas. But there isn't really any game that Planetside 2 can copy its balancing models from. Beta will probably go on for quite a while, although an end of 2012 or beginning of 2013 launch doesn't seem entirely out of the question at this point.

[SFJake]

Counter-Strike is a freak's highly competitive game. Not every game needs the most careful balancing that game does.

[Sephirex]

Once the real cash shop opens, you can consider the game launched.

[Johari]

Glad to see the news but bummer that even if I do get in the first wave I'm leaving town soon after for a couple of days.

Great news regardless.

[Reizod]

Once the real cash shop opens, you can consider the game launched.

Good point, totally agree with that.

Like others have said, I hope in the full trailer release later today, that the Devs capture and portrays the epic scale of PS2 for all the potential newcomers.

[LegioX]

I want to paint my airplane olive drab and have tiger teeth on the front. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[Rivenshield]

I want to paint my airplane olive drab and have tiger teeth on the front. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

I'll just be happy with the Flying Tiger teeth.

[RawketLawnchair]

Hitler and Kitteh are still displeased.

Havocs shall be reckoned.

[Slavgaard]

from twitter

John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
in an early phase.
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1m John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
they will be let in in the early phases as well. For people that ask me "I played from 2005-2007 am I in soon?" the answer is you will be in
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John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
However current subs are in the front of the line for that. In addition we have Priority beta keys given out
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1m John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
are by necessity going to be staggered. So basically if you've ever subbed to the game you're going to be in.
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2m John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
beginning with people who actively are subscribers. Again though we can only let in so many people during each phase so invitations
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3m John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
Every single PS1 player who has ever subscribed to the game will have their Station Account activated at some point during the beta
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twitter again

John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
this is all going to be a moot point here soon as we just open the beta and start letting people in. I hope this helps.

[FINALCUT]

What about people that played from Oct 9th 2003 to December 11th 2004. Stopped playing then started playing again January 19th 2006,played till june 14th 2009,Then quit again and resubbed in March 2012 ? Where do people like that fit in. I gots to know.:D

[Sephirex]

What if I used a time machine to give my current SOE account veteran status, but also wiped out my past self in the process?

I really need answers on this.

[Crator]

@FINALCUT If you subbed in the past year, before they handed out the free time at the beginning of this month, you are considered an 'Active Sub'....

[Folly]

What if I used a time machine to give my current SOE account veteran status, but also wiped out my past self in the process?

I really need answers on this.

If you have a time machine, why bother going backwards and potentially wiping yourself out? Instead jump ahead a few months and play the finished game.

[Sephirex]

If you have a time machine, why bother going backwards and potentially wiping yourself out? Instead jump ahead a few months and play the finished game.

I already wiped out the entire future past August in a Guild Wars related time travel event.

Yeah.......sorry.

[XxAxMayxX]

I'm not a PS2 vet so I'm gonna get beta last :(

[Simokon]

I'm not a PS2 vet so I'm gonna get beta last :(

Its okay man, maybe someone will setup a support group.

[Littleman]

I already wiped out the entire future past August in a Guild Wars related time travel event.

Yeah.......sorry.

Oh... so YOU'RE the bastard that will bring about the realization of the Mayan calendar ending!

[snaffe]

Twitter is such a fail tool. Jesus.

[Simokon]

Twitter is such a fail tool. Jesus.

I only use it to follow the crowd :(