Definition of "What is a PS1 Veteran!!!" [Archive]

Duckforceone

2012-07-24, 07:28 PM

There seems to be some confusion about PS1 Vets and the PS2 Beta. Let me clear it up once and for all
There are going to be multiple phases of the beta. Simply put we are adding more people in different waves simply due to capacity

Every single PS1 player who has ever subscribed to the game will have their Station Account activated at some point during the beta
beginning with people who actively are subscribers. Again though we can only let in so many people during each phase so invitations
are by necessity going to be staggered. So basically if you've ever subbed to the game you're going to be in.

However current subs are in the front of the line for that. In addition we have Priority beta keys given out
they will be let in in the early phases as well. For people that ask me "I played from 2005-2007 am I in soon?" the answer is you will be in
in an early phase.

this is all going to be a moot point here soon as we just open the beta and start letting people in. I hope this helps.
I do apologize if it wasn't clearer sooner. This whole thing has an insane number of moving parts

here are just a few examples of those parts. Status of the build. Number of Beta servers in our multiple data centers worldwide
the amount of time it takes to deploy a build (7 gig copied to EU data center is NOT immediate despite some "experts" telling me otherwise
people's health (the team is pulling insane hours right now). Bugs. Bugs. More bugs.

And as that old saying goes.. the best laid battle plans go out the window the second the fight starts
there are days where we can't fix a critical bug in time to light the servers up on time so they are lit up late
we've launched 11 MMOs. Our deployment systems are world class but these are complicated beasties.

seriously the parsing is amazing. It's simple - active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

Better explained by smedley now

p0intman

2012-07-24, 07:32 PM

hahahahahahaha
https://twitter.com/duckforceone/status/227905289104523264
Tim Dalvang
‏@duckforceone

Follow
@j_smedley PS1 vets, is that anyone owning the game at the time beta starts or?

people trying to buy their way into beta.

Pyreal

2012-07-24, 07:37 PM

I was playing on my 45 free days from the '08 HackSide debacle when I got the extra 30 days.

QuantumMechanic

2012-07-24, 07:42 PM

That's an interesting definition of veteran status. If this is true, then the pool of PS1 vets getting into beta is going to be much much smaller than people thought.

soulsurfsublime

2012-07-24, 07:49 PM

Yeah it would seem that SOE is drawing from a smaller pool for beta than I previously thought. I was wondering how they were going to pull so many users into "priority beta". They're like giving out 100 keys at a time on Twitter and what not, I thought it was madness.. now not so much. Man that first time I log on I will probably faint from excitement.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 07:50 PM

That's an interesting definition of veteran status. If this is true, then the pool of PS1 vets getting into beta is going to be much much smaller than people thought.

Poor phrasing on his part I think. Anyone subscribed before free time still means anybody who ever subscribed before free month. Unless they decided to change it and not include vets who stopped playing.

The Admiral

2012-07-24, 07:51 PM

played in the last year? what about those who subscribed for years but quit in 05 or 06. Good thing I farmed twitter keys eh.

AThreatToYou

2012-07-24, 07:52 PM

Wait... that sentence in the OP makes no sense... dafuq does it mean?

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 07:53 PM

Crator

2012-07-24, 07:55 PM

Oh so now we get a PS1 Vet definition! HAHA. Well, I'm good!

Duckforceone

2012-07-24, 08:03 PM

basically how i read it is :

if you got the free days soe gave out, you are in the first line, and if you subscribed in the last year, you are second in line...

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 08:06 PM

basically how i read it is :

if you got the free days soe gave out, you are in the first line, and if you subscribed in the last year, you are second in line...

Completely wrong. Everyone and their mother got the free days that ever played PS, minus the scrubs a few years back with the 2 free weeks thing.
It goes like this.
If you were subbed BEFORE the free month, you are first.
Then if you were subbed in the past year is next.

The Admiral

2012-07-24, 08:07 PM

no its people who were subscribed immediately before the free 30 days followed by those who were subscribed in the last year. If you played for any of the last 9 years but not this year you get nothing.

Bacc

2012-07-24, 08:10 PM

I read it the same - If you had an active sub before they gave out the free time, you're first. Followed by people who had active subs in the past year.

I can only assume following on from that are people that played prior to 2011...

Man... this has the potential to turn into a huge QQ session, given the number of people that played 5 years ago but still feel... heavily invested (read: entitled)... shall we say. :eek:

Morphic

2012-07-24, 08:11 PM

Sheesh. I was all excited about getting into beta. Guess since I wasn't subscribed this year I'm SOL. Should of just said PS1 recent subscribers.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 08:23 PM

Just Tweet @smedley to get it clarified. The wording seems to change every time he answers the question so I think he just worded it odd this time.

matthewpeters

2012-07-24, 08:24 PM

People actually subscribed before this free time was given is less than 1000. Some people have spent over a hundred dollars staying subscribed just for this since they mentioned it last year.

Quite a few people subscribed shortly before the free days in preparation for the Planetside Day before it was announced that 30 free days was coming to every past subscriber. I would think we got above 1000 before that but maybe not by much. Actually I remember a couple people on PSU bitching because they subscribed without knowing they could have just waited a few days longer and got it for free. I bet they are singing a different tune now.

Still you are right that the "vet" pool is much smaller now. It is more feasible to get all the "first priority vets" and even those subscribed earlier in the year in to Beta before the PC Gamer keys.

The above is all conjecture, but I am now cautiously optimistic for next week, which is pretty soon.

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 08:30 PM

Quite a few people subscribed shortly before the free days in preparation for the Planetside Day before it was announced that 30 free days was coming to every past subscriber. I would think we got above 1000 before that but maybe not by much. Actually I remember a couple people on PSU bitching because they subscribed without knowing they could have just waited a few days longer and got it for free. I bet they are singing a different tune now.

Still you are right that the "vet" pool is much smaller now. It is more feasible to get all the "first priority vets" and even those subscribed earlier in the year in to Beta before the PC Gamer keys.

The above is all conjecture, but I am now cautiously optimistic for next week, which is pretty soon.

Interesting observation with those people that were crying but now celebrating. Lol I wasn't going to pay 15 bucks to play one big night.
We will see how it all unfolds. And we will see if Priority Key actually means anything along the lines of priority.
I wouldn't be surprised if the keys being given out by the hundreds now are of the same priority as the ones we bought in April from PCmag.

InternetZombie

2012-07-24, 08:36 PM

I'm not surprised at all, saw this coming from a mile away, been subbed for a long time just for this.

matthewpeters

2012-07-24, 08:37 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the keys being given out by the hundreds now are of the same priority as the ones we bought in April from PCmag.

Seems like anyone who signed up with a twitter key could answer that. Did your confermation e-mail look like this?:

Hello XXXXXXX,
Thank you for signing up for the PlanetSide 2 Beta game testing and redeeming your priority Beta access code! Once we begin allowing access into Beta, your priority code will award you some of the earliest access available.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 08:41 PM

Seems like anyone who signed up with a twitter key could answer that. Did your confermation e-mail look like this?:

Thank you for signing up for the PlanetSide 2 Beta game testing and redeeming your priority Beta access code! Once we begin allowing access into Beta, your priority code will award you some of the earliest access available.

Thats a PCgamer priority key. Never did get a twitter key.

QuantumMechanic

2012-07-24, 08:48 PM

Hmm my sub expired today. Maybe I should renew just to be on the safe side :P

Renegadeknight

2012-07-24, 08:48 PM

@matthewpeters

I had gotten a twitter key, says exactly that.

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 08:55 PM

I'm not surprised at all, saw this coming from a mile away, been subbed for a long time just for this.

I guess that's the same as paying to get into beta. $15 a month. Damn.

Xaine

2012-07-24, 09:11 PM

Standard SOE bullshit.

Say one thing, which really means something else.

Insanekanifer

2012-07-24, 09:19 PM

Woot, I subbed back in march so I should be good :D

Had been playing for about 3 months a year since 2005 :P

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 09:27 PM

2m PlanetSide 2 PlanetSide 2 ‏@planetside2

@ranikortega Users who has a paid subscription before when we gave out free time. [BKB]

Blah. I have a PC gamer key but i feel like this fucks other PS1 vets:confused:

FINALCUT

2012-07-24, 09:31 PM

Woot, I subbed back in march so I should be good :D

Had been playing for about 3 months a year since 2005 :P

LOL. I saw this coming and resubed in march also. Plus I got the PC gamer thing just in case. Seeya in Beta.:D

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 09:33 PM

@ranikortega Basically if you got a free month, you're a vet. [BKB]

Ok panics over folks :D

Starting a new thread.

Chinchy

2012-07-24, 09:34 PM

Thank fucking Higby(GOD)! All those years of being subbed to this game are finally starting to pay off. Anyone that hasn't been subbed in the past year shouldn't feel entitled to anything especially if we are talking they unsubbed back in like 04 or 05 its 2012 now I have been subbed since 2005 that's a long damn time, I am happy I'm defined as a vet.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 09:37 PM

7m PlanetSide 2 PlanetSide 2 ‏@planetside2

@ranikortega Basically if you got a free month, you're a vet. [BKB]
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I would post a pic but i have no idea how twitter works other than tweeting people. :D

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 09:40 PM

Completely different from what Smed said.
Even if that is true, that's tens of thousands of people. That's a lot of 'waves'.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-24, 09:41 PM

I really wish people (including SOE) would give this "vet" shit a rest. All it is is an excuse for idiots to get all rabid... Worst... Idea... EVER. Seriously. I'm super serial. JUST. STOP.

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-24, 09:42 PM

Dude the thread for this is like the top on the page.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 09:43 PM

Completely different from what Smed said.
Even if that is true, that's tens of thousands of people. That's a lot of 'waves'.

Well take that how you will. It could be that smed worded it poorly because its freaking twitter and twitter makes you smoosh your repsonse into 140 characters.

WiteBeam

2012-07-24, 09:45 PM

Well take that how you will. It could be that smed worded it poorly because its freaking twitter and twitter makes you smoosh your repsonse into 140 characters.

Probably. Just be ready for anything to happen. We all saw how the tech test went.

fedhell

2012-07-24, 09:46 PM

Wow I guess I got really lucky. I baught ps1 a few months back to try it out before ps2, never really considered myself a vet.

Lucky me :-)

Beem

2012-07-24, 09:48 PM

haticK

2012-07-24, 09:49 PM

I think the word veteran shouldn't even be used. I played a lot of games within the last year, that doesn't make me a veteran at any of them. A veteran is someone who has years of experience in something. They're literally calling people veterans who could have only played for a week or month.

Beem

2012-07-24, 09:51 PM

Brusi

2012-07-24, 09:53 PM

I suddenly feel so much better about all the cash i've blown on PS1 subscriptions... and the copies of PC-Gamer mag i bought for my friends, they gon need em ;p

The Degenatron

2012-07-24, 10:07 PM

PS1 subscription since August 2011: Cost $178.53.
PC Gamer #225: Cost $10.06
Getting into Planetside 2 Early: Priceless

Death2All

2012-07-24, 10:18 PM

Yay, now all the "vets" on this board won't be getting in first thing. The people who've actually stuck with the game will get first dibs :love:

Maybe we'll be able to change the game into something fun instead of the monotonous BF mess that everyone seems to gravitate towards. I'm very happy I've stuck with the game (and actually played it) throughout the years.

OutlawDr

2012-07-24, 10:22 PM

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 10:27 PM

:doh:
I subbed in 03 and 04, and was part of PS1 beta.

I thought that was enough for vet status and early access.
They even told us "if you are a vet*, you don't need a key!!!...

*given us money in the last year

Hope this is not the case.

@Planetside 2 said that if you got the free month you are considered a vet.

Beem

2012-07-24, 10:27 PM

:doh:
I subbed in 03 and 04, and was part of PS1 beta.

I thought that was enough for vet status and early access.
They even told us "if you are a vet*, you don't need a key!!!...

*given us money in the last year

Hope this is not the case.

It's not the case. There's a post explaining it. If you got the free game time at all you are a vet. I wasn't subbed for years and got it.

Crator

2012-07-24, 10:30 PM

OutlawDr

2012-07-24, 10:30 PM

@Planetside 2 said that if you got the free month you are considered a vet.

It's not the case. There's a post explaining it. If you got the free game time at all you are a vet. I wasn't subbed for years and got it.

Good to hear.

[deletes death threat email drafts]

Sephirex

2012-07-24, 10:31 PM

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 10:34 PM

So ya, there's a thread on the tweet from Smed already. This tweet you are talking about is here https://twitter.com/planetside2/status/227938431743975425....

Doesn't make much sense to me and it contradicts what Smed tweeted....

Thanks for quoting that in a link. I had no idea how to do it :D. And my take on it is this. It's hard as shit to get a proper response into twitter. If it contradicts smed i'm going to go with the guy i'm talking to knowing what he's talking about and smedly simply not having enough room to type a response.

Sephirex

2012-07-24, 10:36 PM

So ya, there's a thread on the tweet from Smed already. This tweet you are talking about is here https://twitter.com/planetside2/status/227938431743975425....

Doesn't make much sense to me and it contradicts what Smed tweeted....

Smed's tweet is rather ambiguous. "Subscribed ahead of us giving people free time" could mean any subscription ever active before the free month, or any subscription active at the time the free month started.

Crator

2012-07-24, 10:38 PM

I suppose you're right. Is it a run on sentence that should have been broken up or not?

Originally Tweeted by Smedly:
ps1 vets - people subscribed ahead of us giving people free time followed by anyone who played in the last year.

I'm not a pro tweet analyst so ya got me...

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-24, 10:40 PM

The old definitions were the correct ones.

https://twitter.com/planetside2/status/227938431743975425
These tweets are so short and easy to misinterpret, best not to treat them too seriously unless you're positive of their meaning.

Remember when Twitter confirmed Beta was happening on Thursday two weeks ago?
Or that Twitter confirmed PcGamer Keys were better then Facebook keys?
Or Twitter confirmed confirmed all Tweeted keys would be THE first ones into Beta?

I do. Give it a rest.

I remember those fun discussions haha.

This thread needs to be merged with "PS1 vets read".

That said, I think its hilarious that all the vets argued about who was getting in first, and now that it was cleared up, the plot thickens, and none of them know who's a vet or not, lmao.

I'm not helping with this one.

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 10:46 PM

I suppose you're right. Is it a run on sentence that should have been broken up or not?

I'm not a pro tweet analyst so ya got me...

It just seems so ambigious that it's hard to interpret. So I went with the direct explanation about if you have free month you are a vet. It's much more straightforward.

GhettoPrince

2012-07-24, 10:51 PM

Ok, I guess I got in, cool.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-24, 10:57 PM

Insanekanifer

2012-07-24, 11:29 PM

Yes everyones a vet, but smed stated how people were going to get in starting next tuesday / monday. He said people with active accounts before the 30 free days would be first followed by people who were subscribed in the last year.

League

2012-07-24, 11:29 PM

I think he means people who were subscribed immediately before they gave the free month as he goes on to say followed by people who were subscribed at some point in the last year. So Vet = right before free month > in the last year.

Death2All

2012-07-24, 11:30 PM

Hey, here's a solution to this problem:

NOBODY gets early access. Priority access was BAD BAD idea. Now, they pick from the pool of applicant at random... As it should be.

wait... They aren't doing that? Sorry, SOE, better brace for all those mail bombs coming your way :(

No... more.... vets.... Plz....prty plz...

Why would they pick someone with little no to experience with sort of game in first over someone who has a much better understanding? The veteran player is going to know how to find bugs/exploits/glitches better than the person who hasn't the slightest fuck of what's going on.

It just sounds like people are mad about the decision since they haven't subbed the game since they quit in '03 and only recently hopped on the band wagon once PS2 was released and now they're trying to put everyone else on even footing and rationalize/justify the decision since they think the won't get get in. Had Smedly not of said that people who subbed in the last year would get in I'm sure people would proudly be bragging about their veterancy (is that word?). Tough luck.

Pyreal

2012-07-24, 11:32 PM

You guys realize that the free month was given to PS vets in the first place, since they had to have an existing acct?

..In other words..

You had to have an existing acct to have the free month added, since it was "added" to your acct.
A by product of having an existing acct is that said acct made you a "veteran" because you are the holder of that acct.

..In other words..

You must have an Existing Acct to get 30 days free.
If you get 30 days free you are a "vet".

..In other words..

Existing acct = free month added to acct
Existing acct = you're a vet
No existing acct = no free month added to nonexistent acct
No existing acct = not a vet

Infektion

2012-07-24, 11:36 PM

If that's the case then I have 6 beta accounts... 1 1/2 legit, and the rest are 30day trials from afew years ago.

Crator

2012-07-24, 11:37 PM

This info is fuzzy at best:

Tweet: https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227906229832396800 Posted at 4:20PM CST on 7/24/12

@j_smedley PS1 vets, is that anyone owning the game at the time beta starts or?

@duckforceone ps1 vets - people subscribed ahead of us giving people free time followed by anyone who played in the last year.

Tweet: https://twitter.com/planetside2/status/227938431743975425 Posted at 6:28PM CST on 7/24/12

@planetside2 So people who were actively subscribed when you gave free time?

@ranikortega Basically if you got a free month, you're a vet. [BKB]

Insanekanifer

2012-07-24, 11:44 PM

Why would they pick someone with little no to experience with sort of game in first over someone who has a much better understanding? The veteran player is going to know how to find bugs/exploits/glitches better than the person who hasn't the slightest fuck of what's going on.

It just sounds like people are mad about the decision since they haven't subbed the game since they quit in '03 and only recently hopped on the band wagon once PS2 was released and now they're trying to put everyone else on even footing and rationalize/justify the decision since they think the won't get get in. Had Smedly not of said that people who subbed in the last year would get in I'm sure people would proudly be bragging about their veterancy (is that word?). Tough luck.

Completely Agree. The people who have played in the last year know more about the game then people who played back when, things have changed and I think they should get first priority :). Sorry "old" vets but your outdated and if you truely supported the game you would have played longer :P

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-24, 11:47 PM

Completely Agree. The people who have played in the last year know more about the game then people who played back when, things have changed and I think they should get first priority :). Sorry "old" vets but your outdated and if you truely supported the game you would have played longer :P

Apparently you are supposed to play a game for 9 years instead of 6. Yeah no elitism here :rofl:

Pyreal

2012-07-24, 11:47 PM

vVRedOctoberVv

:stoppost:

'Early Beta Access', 'Priority Beta Access', 'Blahblah Beta Access' are common, so what is the point of whining about it?

Completely Agree. The people who have played in the last year know more about the game then people who played back when, things have changed and I think they should get first priority :). Sorry "old" vets but your outdated and if you truely supported the game you would have played longer :P

Misinformed you are.

Pyreal

2012-07-24, 11:52 PM

If that's the case then I have 6 beta accounts... 1 1/2 legit, and the rest are 30day trials from afew years ago.

A trial acct may not be considered a full and proper acct if it was never turned into a Full acct via a purchase.

This is common sense.

My apologies for assuming.

Goku

2012-07-25, 12:00 AM

Dear god this is confusing. Should have Hamma flag RadarX in here.

Insanekanifer

2012-07-25, 12:03 AM

vVRedOctoberVv

:stoppost:

'Early Beta Access', 'Priority Beta Access', 'Blahblah Beta Access' are common, so what is the point of whining about it?

Edit: Ah I see you're saying people who have played the game recently (in the last year) don't have a better handle on what ps1 is then the people who played years ago? How can you possibly argue that, what with being away from the game for so long?

Misinformed you are.

You do realize smed said it himself right? Check out smeds twitter post...

GhettoPrince

2012-07-25, 12:25 AM

You do realize smed said it himself right? Check out smeds twitter post...

http://i.imgur.com/XrklX.gif

Beem

2012-07-25, 12:32 AM

Did you get the free play time? Then you are a vet in the first group.
Have you simply subbed this year? Then you are a vet in the second group.
Will they separate these groups? Who gives a shit you still get in before regulars either way.

There isn't anything confusing going on here.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 12:47 AM

Novice bot

2012-07-25, 01:07 AM

Why would they pick someone with little no to experience with sort of game in first over someone who has a much better understanding? The veteran player is going to know how to find bugs/exploits/glitches better than the person who hasn't the slightest fuck of what's going on.

If by veteran player you mean one who has spent countless hours in Planetside 1, I'm going to bash your skull in. How does hours in Planetside 1 contribute to ones beta testing capabilities, other than knowing the base concept? A hint; PS2 isn't a graphical update to PS1, its a stand alone game with new engine and mechanics. You're on the same line with everyone else with proper beta testing experience (Not to mention there are ton of people learning-wise who catch up within days). No matter how many hours someone spent in PS1, it doesn't actually tell anything about the players personal skill, let alone capability to find exploits and glitches, or notice ground-breaking bugs. All I know, the person might not even spot a bug when he sees one (Let alone report it). Then there are certain clans I've seen running around in MMO's who learn to duplicate resources within two weeks, no matter the MMO. If you haven't got anything rational to justify such arguments with, I suggest you won't argue with stuff like that. I can already imagine all the hatred you bring towards yourself when people read posts like that. Such bias isn't healthy for a MMO community.

Tehroth

2012-07-25, 01:10 AM

What does it mean to be a veteran of planetside? Honor, nerves like steel, no holds bar grisly fortitude. Its reaches up there with storming the beaches of Normandy or not giving up in a POW Vietnam camp.

Scars upon scars of gritty perseverance and steadfastness. Rippling muscles and hardened mindsets. I feel should I ever be drafted in the military planetside has taught me all I need to know. Ditching these sweatpants that have been stained over the years and my XXL shirt with the food particle spots for miltary garb would be no problem.

Give it an hour or two and my cardio-vascular breathing will accelerate from heavy breathing every few steps to a full fledged warrior standing. All thanks to planetside.

I am sure they will make me a officer as soon as I were to enlist due to my strategy and tactical knowledge and savvy. Heck they probably send me to the front lines every time too because I am so accurate with any gun or vehicle. Its a shame that I wasn't born earlier I could have won wars.

Death2All

2012-07-25, 02:05 AM

If by veteran player you mean one who has spent countless hours in Planetside 1, I'm going to bash your skull in. How does hours in Planetside 1 contribute to ones beta testing capabilities, other than knowing the base concept? A hint; PS2 isn't a graphical update to PS1, its a stand alone game with new engine and mechanics. You're on the same line with everyone else with proper beta testing experience (Not to mention there are ton of people learning-wise who catch up within days). No matter how many hours someone spent in PS1, it doesn't actually tell anything about the players personal skill, let alone capability to find exploits and glitches, or notice ground-breaking bugs. All I know, the person might not even spot a bug when he sees one (Let alone report it). Then there are certain clans I've seen running around in MMO's who learn to duplicate resources within two weeks, no matter the MMO. If you haven't got anything rational to justify such arguments with, I suggest you won't argue with stuff like that. I can already imagine all the hatred you bring towards yourself when people read posts like that. Such bias isn't healthy for a MMO community.

You're going to bash my skull in because I think that someone who has more experience and has put more effort into something will be better for beta testing over someone with no experience? Yes, PS2 has a different engine/mechanics from the first, but the core gameplay is there. The experience you had from PS1 is certainly going to carry over from PS2, whether it's general FPS background or tactics/strategies that you can employ. Haven't that knowledge/background is going to help a lot for beta testing.

Based off the anger and hatred radiating off of your post I'm guessing you never played PS1, or you're one of the jaded "veterans" who hasn't played the game in years and now you're feelingly slighted by SOE because you won't get first dibs on a game you clearly didn't care about until recently.

It's curious how everyone hasn't subscribed/played in the last year, or hasn't played the first is so angered by this decision. Even Higby himself said in an interview that he agrees with the decision to let veterans in the game because they're the ones who know the game the best.

I honestly believe a PS1 veteran who has played the game for years through thick and thin will give better feedback over someone who has only recently heard of the game, recently come back to it or has purchased a beta key from a magazine. I guess I'm just an overzealous, elitist, entitled prick, huh?

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 02:09 AM

http://i.imgur.com/XrklX.gif

Sike? Is that supposed to be Psych?

Hydra

2012-07-25, 02:21 AM

TheSaltySeagull

2012-07-25, 02:24 AM

If by veteran player you mean one who has spent countless hours in Planetside 1, I'm going to bash your skull in. How does hours in Planetside 1 contribute to ones beta testing capabilities, other than knowing the base concept? A hint; PS2 isn't a graphical update to PS1, its a stand alone game with new engine and mechanics. You're on the same line with everyone else with proper beta testing experience (Not to mention there are ton of people learning-wise who catch up within days). No matter how many hours someone spent in PS1, it doesn't actually tell anything about the players personal skill, let alone capability to find exploits and glitches, or notice ground-breaking bugs. All I know, the person might not even spot a bug when he sees one (Let alone report it). Then there are certain clans I've seen running around in MMO's who learn to duplicate resources within two weeks, no matter the MMO. If you haven't got anything rational to justify such arguments with, I suggest you won't argue with stuff like that. I can already imagine all the hatred you bring towards yourself when people read posts like that. Such bias isn't healthy for a MMO community.

While I agree that there are significant differences between PS1 and PS2 the basic concept is the same and there are no other games that offer an experience similar to planetside. You need PS1 vets in order to test the meta game features of PS2 and see how they feel because only PS1 vets have experience with such a meta game.

Unlike session based games like cod or BF where the map reloads after every match in planetside victories and defeats have a lasting impact on the world and players must coordinate battles across multiple bases/continents. You need vets there to see how the strategic features for coordinating large scale battles work. Remember this particular beta isn't just about finding bugs its about providing feedback on how the game features work and feel. And players with no experience with such things are not the best people to provide feedback.

I am not saying the beta should be comprised solely of vets and it wont be. But I do believe it is important to gets some vets in there. These are the people with experience organizing and leading outfits and coordinating tactics like gal drops and max crashes etc. You dont want the beta full of guys from cod who dont even know what a max unit is.

matthewpeters

2012-07-25, 02:31 AM

Hydra

2012-07-25, 03:01 AM

The only reason I can see for letting in current subs before past subs is that they are part of the active community of PS1 players. If you start letting in some of them but not all then you kill that community (for a few weeks) and give those who got shut out of the first Beta a few weeks/months of half an outfit and half of a community, since they can not even talk to the rest of their outfit about Beta. To avoid splitting the active communities, just invite them all at once in the first wave.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227984051867369472

Basically everyone it means:
If you had an existing account that received the 30days that means you are a Vet -BUT that doesn't mean you will be getting first; if you are willing to pay money to a dead game which also also counts as veteran status
you get in first (current subs)

However it is to my understanding that Non-sub vets will get in early as well but not before current subs - but will be getting in before all the regular folks who just registered at the website.

PC gamer keys, etc will get in with the current sub (veterans) anyone that is subbed right now, not sure where Twitter keys fall into this however.

That is my understanding.:shrug:

Stew

2012-07-25, 03:55 AM

thats for Beta purpose , but for me the true vets are those who have play in the golden age of PS1 2003 2004 2005 ... Those who as start to play in 2009 2010 etc.. are for me experienced ps1 players or actual ps1 players but not vets the veteran are the OLD ones the grandpa of gaming lol like myself and some others in here

Basically everyone it means:
If you had an existing account that received the 30days that means you are a Vet -BUT that doesn't mean you will be getting first; if you are willing to pay money to a dead game which also also counts as veteran status
you get in first (current subs)

However it is to my understanding that Non-sub vets will get in early as well but not before current subs - but will be getting in before all the regular folks who just registered at the website.

PC gamer keys, etc will get in with the current sub (veterans) anyone that is subbed right now, not sure where Twitter keys fall into this however.

That is my understanding.:shrug:

yout rigth but you forgot (( Fanfest 2011 att )) , Pc gamers keys , and ps1 vets status , have all equal chance to get in the beta in each waves ,

andehh

2012-07-25, 03:59 AM

Oh i am so confused. I played for a couple of years round 2005, got the 30 days free and have a holiday booked for 2 weeks starting from Monday. I'm stuffed either way by the looks of it! :D

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Roidster

2012-07-25, 04:12 AM

to me a Vet has 5 or more years of the original under his belt

Zation

2012-07-25, 04:30 AM

This whole thing really got confusing all of sudden :(

So if current subs get in first, where does that leave "older" vets and how does PC gamer keys, twitter keys, facebook keys and whatever keys fit into all this?

Since Smed desided to open up this pandora's box it would be nice if we could have a nice blue post about precisly how all thise types of keys (and apperently different types of vet statuses) fit in and so on.

Marinealver

2012-07-25, 05:26 AM

You have a Planetside 1 subscription before the anouncement of Planetside 2.

So 1 year merit atleast will work for me.

Shogun

2012-07-25, 05:27 AM

typical smed tweet!

everything was totally clear until his tweed everybody can misunderstand.

not the first time this happens...

a lot of devs stated that owning a ps1 account that had an active sub qualified you as veteran.

the new tweet only gives the deadline! it says every account that once was active BEFORE planetside day will be considered vet.

so subbing now will not buy you into the first group any more. (but into the follow up secondary group as i understand the tweet)

and for those who still don´t get it, if you got the free month for planetside day, you are in the priority pool for sure! (don´t ask me if this applies to the people who had to manually get their free days from the support, i don´t know)

Karrade

2012-07-25, 06:43 AM

typical smed tweet!

everything was totally clear until his tweed everybody can misunderstand.

It is the negative side of twitter, talkshows, modern day politics, any medium that doesn't give people time to think. It encourages short comments that leave far too much open to personal perception.

BlazingSun

2012-07-25, 07:32 AM

That's a strange definition of "veteran" status. So someone who subscribed and played the game for one month for the first time in the last year, is more of a "veteran" than someone who played the game for years. Makes total sense.

Oh well ... only few more weeks to wait now.

Sighpolice

2012-07-25, 07:36 AM

to clarify all of these they should have a little box with "Veteran Status Granted?" and a "Yes" or "No" when you log into to station.com and look at available games (currently says PlanetSide 2: Inactive, could have a little V priority or something alongside it)

That way, anyone can see if they are classed as veteran or not and whether or not we should try and get beta keys, cause atm I'm confused as I don't know if I should slave after one, or not, seeing as a PS1 Veteran "doesn't need a beta key".

Griffevent

2012-07-25, 07:46 AM

This >

http://blog.neu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/picture-03.jpg

< is a "Planetside 1 Veteran".

Or at least how I imagine them.

Lumberchuk

2012-07-25, 07:53 AM

Wow I bought a PS1 subscription a week after E3 because I needed something to hold me over till PS2 beta started. Now I'm a vet? Awesome for me, but I think a little unfair, I think it should be based on how long you have subbed to the game personally.

Canaris

2012-07-25, 09:31 AM

You have a Planetside 1 subscription before the anouncement of Planetside 2.

So 1 year merit atleast will work for me.

actually 2 years now, anyone with a 1 year merit is a johnny come lately ;)

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 10:05 AM

vVRedOctoberVv

:stoppost:

'Early Beta Access', 'Priority Beta Access', 'Blahblah Beta Access' are common, so what is the point of whining about it?

Now, I refuse to stop posting. And I wasn't whining about people getting early access. I was whining about the people whining about getting/not getting early access. SOE should've just done whatever and not told anybody about it :)

As for "veterans" being more qualified to test the game... I don't see how. You honestly think the other people here have never played any other games? Or that many of them have not participated in betas for other games? This particular game, although based on the Planetside franchise with similar themes, is not Planetside 1. Previous experience with Planetside provides only a framework of "is this different or the same".

I guarantee, whether anyone has played Planetside 1 before or not... They are equally capable of testing balance or looking for glitches as anyone else.

I don't care who gets in when. I just think it's stupid that so many other people do. Case in point, the tech test near-riots we had last week. Reeeeelaaaaaaax, peeeeeeeeple

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 10:26 AM

Definition of PS1 Veteran :

A whiney bitch , constantly crying about there right to beta based on time spent in another game .

I'm increasingly of the mindset that PS1 vets should get in last with all there rights and entitlements does PS2 beta need all that baggage ? .

Are PS 1 "vets" going to be worrking for the better of PS2 , or ranting over what's different and what there "entitled" to from PS1 . From these forums ill guess the later .

Zation

2012-07-25, 10:49 AM

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 10:50 AM

@Zation

And people who suggest banning other people for stupid reasons... Oh wait, that includes me now, too?

Zation

2012-07-25, 10:53 AM

yes :P

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 10:58 AM

hook your self's up at cuntbrush.org

You can help eachother get the sand from your vaginas .

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 11:00 AM

Thanks, but I like sand in my va-jay-jay. Improves friction.

[Ringtone] Eric Cartman - Anti-Bullying Song - YouTube

Crator

2012-07-25, 11:10 AM

For all those arguing about the validity of PS1 vets and if they should get in earlier then other, non PS1 vet, accounts: Your points are mute because SOE already said that PS1 vets get priority access to beta. It valid cause SOE said so!

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 11:11 AM

@Crator

Golf clap, anyone?

*clap*

*clap*

*clap*

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-25, 11:12 AM

This is getting a bit out of hand, lol.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 11:25 AM

@Hebrew

I agree. You know what will solve all our pent up angst? Beta. Unfortunately, it hasn't started yet, and here we are. Commenting on my vajayjay. Desperate times, my friend. Desperate times.

Noxey

2012-07-25, 12:20 PM

Crator

2012-07-25, 12:21 PM

That's a question for Smed really Noxey... He needs to clarify what he tweeted yesterday for anyone to answer your question.

Hydra

2012-07-25, 12:23 PM

So my free 30 days runs out on the 27th, My last Paid sub was March 2011, will I need to sub again to be considered a 'vet' and get into the beta next Monday / Tuesday?

Cheers for anyone clearing this up :groovy:

If you are willing to pay money to Planetside (before Beta actually starts I believe) then you are considered a vet; current subs get in first.

Infektion

2012-07-25, 12:45 PM

A trial acct may not be considered a full and proper acct if it was never turned into a Full acct via a purchase.

This is common sense.

My apologies for assuming.

I have 6 accounts who continually get free play time... if it was a BS account, this wouldnt happen. :D now, THAT'S common sense.

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 12:51 PM

If you are willing to pay money to Planetside (before Beta actually starts I believe) then you are considered a vet; current subs get in first.

So many people without current subs already got access it puts pay to your theory right off the bat .

Hydra

2012-07-25, 12:59 PM

So many people without current subs already got access it puts pay to your theory right off the bat .

Technical testing =/= Beta

Beta hasn't started yet and being a vet or having subs has nothing to do with Technical testing.

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 01:02 PM

Technical testing =/= Beta

Beta hasn't started yet and being a vet or having subs has nothing to do with Technical testing.

So from amongst the "vets" they couldnt find people with the right specs ?

Cmon now ... really

Beem

2012-07-25, 01:04 PM

If you are willing to pay money to Planetside (before Beta actually starts I believe) then you are considered a vet; current subs get in first.

wild guess based on nothing

Hydra

2012-07-25, 01:05 PM

So from amongst the "vets" they couldnt find people with the right specs ?

Cmon now ... really

You are making it very hard not to insult you.
I'll repeat.

Being a vet or having subs has nothing to do with Technical testing.

Hosp

2012-07-25, 01:05 PM

Technical testing =/= Beta

Beta hasn't started yet and being a vet or having subs has nothing to do with Technical testing.

True Story.

Hydra

2012-07-25, 01:07 PM

wild guess based on nothing

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227984051867369472

You said what again?

Ranik Ortega

2012-07-25, 01:08 PM

So from amongst the "vets" they couldnt find people with the right specs ?

Cmon now ... really

Based on the NDA breach video. I think most people have come to the conclusion that tech test invites were absolutely random. :rofl: Or at least did not even factor vets in. Otherwise I don't see how someone dumb enough to go on a friendly fire spree, ask about ingame quests, and breech the NDA with a Youtube video, would have gotten invited.

Goku

2012-07-25, 01:10 PM

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227984051867369472

You said what again?

So info we had from over a year ago is proven correct this time. SOE said before it doesn't matter if you are actively subbed or not.

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 01:11 PM

Lets be honest between the beta keys released months back and the numerous statements about how one keys is worth the same as another key , various statements over what is and isnt a vet .

Its now beyond any comprehension twitter after twitter just makes things more confusing and open to interpretation for the rabid fanboys .

Im sure whatever reasoning you guys have attached to yourself and your right to a beta key will come true , calm down its all good ....

Xeller

2012-07-25, 01:12 PM

Seriously guys, this is getting really out of hand. Props to SOE for creating an environment that has brought out the worst in my beloved Planetside community. They really should just not have said anything about who gets priority.

How it stands now:

-If you were subbed (active subscription) before free play started, you are in the first group
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227983800557248512

-If you were subbed at any point before free play (to verify this, if you log into your account and you have free play for PS1, you fall into this catagory) you are in the second group.
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227984051867369472

This IS HOW IT IS. DEAL WITH IT. Please don't talk about what is fair or who's entitled, or who would make a better beta player because it will have no result on how SOE is picking beta players and it contributes nothing to any discussion on to make Planetside 2 better.

The rivalry that is starting between new/recently subscribed players, brand new players, and people who subscribed years ago is ridiculous. We are all better than this. Beta literally starts in a week, everyone can wait.

Hydra

2012-07-25, 01:16 PM

So info we had from over a year ago is proven correct this time. SOE said before it doesn't matter if you are actively subbed or not.

My guess is that current subs (Vets) will get in first, but inactive Vet accounts will still have a chance to go before people without keys aka people who just signed up normally.

PCgamer, and all those events that gave out keys will probably go in with the sub accounts which would probably explain why they were giving away so many because the pool is so small now.

Zar

2012-07-25, 01:16 PM

Seriously guys, this is getting really out of hand. Props to SOE for creating an environment that has brought out the worst in my beloved PS1 community. They really should just not have said anything about who gets priority.

How it stands now:

-If you were subbed (active subscription) before free play started, you are in first group
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227983800557248512

-If you were subbed at any point before free play (to verify this, if you log into your account and you have free play for PS1, you fall into this catagory) you are in the second group.

This IS HOW IT IS. DEAL WITH IT. Please don't talk about what is fair or who's entitled, or who would make a better beta player because it will have no result on how SOE is picking beta players and it contributes nothing to any discussion on to make Planetside 2 better.

The rivalry that is starting between new/recently subscribed players, brand new players, and people who subscribed years ago is ridiculous. We are all better than this. Beta literally starts in a week, everyone can wait.
It hurt's to do it but i agree with the NC on this one >.< we are better then this. chill out and watch a zombie movie..... watch a lot of zombie movie's =3

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 01:18 PM

I can wait, but only if I know that I will get in... soon.

Zar

2012-07-25, 01:19 PM

I can wait, but only if I know that I will get in... soon.

you're a vs use your tech and make us a time machine

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 01:24 PM

you're a vs use your tech and make us a time machine

We did. How do you think this whole mess started?

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 01:25 PM

you're a vs use your tech and make us a time machine

Our lord Vanu told us that we can't mess with time travel. Otherwise we might accidentally see the wonderful, glorious, and not at all apocalyptic reason why his species is no longer on Auraxis.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 01:26 PM

@Xyntech

NC's fault, wasn't it? I knew those dirty Smurf's were stupid enough to destroy the planet!

Zar

2012-07-25, 01:28 PM

We did. How do you think this whole mess started?

paradox you've doomed us all!

Coreldan

2012-07-25, 01:30 PM

I've been subbed continiously for the hope of beta access since january 2012 (periodic subs before that, but havnt stopped the sub from january to here), so I suppose I'm good then.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 01:32 PM

At this point, I think it would be funny if they only allowed ONE person in, but allowed them to film themselves playing with the devs and going "neenerneenerneener" over the VoiP :) Watch the RAWR that starts then :p

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 01:33 PM

Xeller

2012-07-25, 01:33 PM

Nothing like a little faction hate to simmer things down.

Seriously though, if anyone is stupid enough to destroy the planet it's TR. Unregulated fascist regimes have a tendency to do that.

Hydra

2012-07-25, 01:37 PM

-If you are subbed (active subscription), you are in the first group
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227983800557248512

Ftfy
I agree with everything else you said as well.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 01:41 PM

Nothing like a little faction hate to simmer things down.

Seriously though, if anyone is stupid enough to destroy the planet it's TR. Unregulated fascist regimes have a tendency to do that.

Because we have so many historical examples of fascist regimes destroying an entire planet... Oh wait...

-edit

Unless you refer to the United States, so far the only nation to use a nuclear weapon in war time? :)

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 01:48 PM

Because we have so many historical examples of fascist regimes destroying an entire planet... Oh wait...

-edit

Unless you refer to the United States, so far the only nation to use a nuclear weapon in war time? :)

That asteroid belt out there in the middle of the Solar system? Used to be Auraxis. Good thing we Vanu got out in time to find another planet so you can all play this historical simulator.

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 01:53 PM

Nothing like a little faction hate to simmer things down.

Seriously though, if anyone is stupid enough to destroy the planet its TR. Unregulated fascist regimes have a tendency to do that.

But if there's anyone crazy enough to destroy the planet, it's the VS. Never let it be said that we aren't numero uno in the madness department.

The NC would probably destroy the planet by trying to duct tape Auraxis to a passing meteor for shits and giggles, and end up sending the planet careening into the sun.

Back on topic of what a PS1 Veteran is...

I am the very model of a modern PS veteran
I've information tank combat, air fighter, and Infantryman
I know the CR5's of Planetside, and quote tacticians
From Anguta to Gunuku, in stalemates dystopian

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-25, 01:57 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23952226.jpg

:D Who knew Boromir was a vet?!

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 02:02 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23952226.jpg

:D Who knew Boromir was a vet?!

You'd be surprised about all the things Boromir is both aware of and completely pessimistic about.

Joomba

2012-07-25, 02:08 PM

What's free play? My brother subscribed in 2005 only, does he get free play? He's second in line for beta?

If so, I could play PS1 on his account for free to pass the time? How is it claimed?

Crator

2012-07-25, 02:12 PM

They gave away free time around the beginning of July. One free month to accounts with a past subscription. You'll have to login to the account on www.soe.com and check the account status. Should show free time on it. If so, you can login to the game with the account and play.

Hydra

2012-07-25, 02:15 PM

What's free play? My brother subscribed in 2005 only, does he get free play? He's second in line for beta?

If so, I could play PS1 on his account for free to pass the time? How is it claimed?

All Past subscribed accounts got 30 days added to their accounts, so he should be able to hop on now since he subbed, however if he is not subbed now, he will not be getting in before people who are actually subbed now.

Just log on and play, and if you want early access just sub before beta starts.

kidwithstick

2012-07-25, 03:06 PM

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 03:08 PM

WOW well thats fucking lame.

If I would of known this 5 months ago I would of picked up the PC gamer with priority beta. Instead I was told I didnt have to worry because my account was already marked with priority.

LAME SOE.:mad:

If you had a subscription before the free time you're still in, but not as priority as those who still had an active subscription .

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 03:33 PM

The worst part about this thread is the rampant misinformation/misunderstanding...

It's like:
Situation is GREEN!
(crowd of color blind people arguing about whether it's red, brown, or orange)

fvdham

2012-07-25, 03:58 PM

100,000 people have been subscribed to PS1
You don't need 100,000 people for beta.

WiteBeam

2012-07-25, 04:04 PM

100,000 people have been subscribed to PS1
You don't need 100,000 people for beta.

Really? 100,000.
There will be multiple servers. As many people that want to play will get into open beta. Whether or not they need all of them.
Plus, that's like saying there will be a limit on spaces for people allowed to play the game at release.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 04:09 PM

100,000 people have been subscribed to PS1
You don't need 100,000 people for beta.

All 100,000 signed up for Beta?

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 04:18 PM

*facepalm*

This thread

fvdham

2012-07-25, 04:21 PM

Wait, even if 100,000 people want to play
maybe only 10% will log in at the same time,
so you only need 2 servers.

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 04:21 PM

If you had a subscription before the free time you're still in, but not as priority as those who still had an active subscription .

Not as priority

Classic ! :rofl:

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 04:23 PM

Not as priority

Classic ! :rofl:

"Prioritized" or "High Priority" will work in its place. Apologies for making it difficult to read.

Maarvy

2012-07-25, 04:25 PM

Easy to do , just killed me given the whole theme of the thread .

Xeller

2012-07-25, 04:31 PM

Really, this whole fiasco can be summed up in two tweets:

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227983800557248512

and

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227984051867369472

Put those in the original post, and lock this sucker down.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 04:32 PM

basti

2012-07-25, 04:55 PM

Here we go!

There seems to be some confusion about PS1 Vets and the PS2 Beta. Let me clear it up once and for all
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228230278483693568

There are going to be multiple phases of the beta. Simply put we are adding more people in different waves simply due to capacity
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228230485099311104

Every single PS1 player who has ever subscribed to the game will have their Station Account activated at some point during the beta
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228230736854016000

beginning with people who actively are subscribers. Again though we can only let in so many people during each phase so invitations
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228230945738727425

are by necessity going to be staggered. So basically if you've ever subbed to the game you're going to be in.
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228231208495091712

However current subs are in the front of the line for that. In addition we have Priority beta keys given out
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228231380629327872

they will be let in in the early phases as well. For people that ask me "I played from 2005-2007 am I in soon?" the answer is you will be in
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228231586242523136

in an early phase.
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228231660460716034

this is all going to be a moot point here soon as we just open the beta and start letting people in. I hope this helps.
http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/228231808549015552

Im herding the twats err twits folks! :D

WiteBeam

2012-07-25, 04:58 PM

There you have it. Just like what many of us have been saying.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 04:58 PM

Oh I was just going to make a thread about this, guess that's not needed then.

However it seems Priority Beta Keys are in the same level of the hierarchy as the currently non-subscribed veterans. Which seems kind of fair I guess, the only thing I'm wondering about is wether there is a difference between PC Gamer keys, E3 keys and Twitter keys. They all say "Priority Access" when you activate them so I guess they are the same. Though that would mean that everyone and their mother spamming twitter would have the same priority as the 9 year veterans...

Wow that would cause some whining on the forum..

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:01 PM

@IgloGlass Haven't we already gone through that whine-fest?

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:05 PM

@IgloGlass Haven't we already gone through that whine-fest?

Oh I'm willing to bet my money on the fact that you haven't seen the beginning of it! Imagine when the beta actually starts! Now people are whining without reason, in a week people will be whining with reason... MADNESS!

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 05:16 PM

Oh I'm willing to bet my money on the fact that you haven't seen the beginning of it! Imagine when the beta actually starts! Now people are whining without reason, in a week people will be whining with reason... MADNESS!

This man is a prophet who can accurately foretell the future! We should all listen intently to his words!

-edit @Basti

Nice attempt, sir, but I'm afraid these twits can jump high enough to get out of the corral again.

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 05:20 PM

This man is a prophet who can accurately foretell the future! We should all listen intently to his words!

Blasphemy! The only true prophet is Vanu...

Wait... Could it be? Our lord and savior Vanu has respawned into a new physical body?!

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 05:24 PM

With that hair, he must be VS.

Duckforceone

2012-07-25, 05:28 PM

updated first post

Stew

2012-07-25, 06:18 PM

So from amongst the "vets" they couldnt find people with the right specs ?

Cmon now ... really

They need more than just ps1 vets they need experienced gamers and modern fps players since many ps1 vets are adverse to modern shooter mechanics wich is where planetside 2 go for !

So thats why they invite in the first platton some BF clans and some pro gamers as well !

I know many ps1 actual players who are consider as a vets since they have a active accont who never play more than 2 minutes the modern fps games so how they could help for the tech test ?

Opinions about the game direction will be in BETA and you all going to be their !

Planetside 2 is more about modern fps mechanics whithin the planetside universe

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228237905305403392

THE BETA WILL START NEXT MON OR TUESDAY BARRING ANY UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCES

Everyones will be in the beta soon so calm down please

BlazingSun

2012-07-25, 06:39 PM

They need more than just ps1 vets they need experienced gamers and modern fps players since many ps1 vets are adverse to modern shooter mechanics wich is where planetside 2 go for !

So thats why they invite in the first platton some BF clans and some pro gamers as well !

I know many ps1 actual players who are consider as a vets since they have a active accont who never play more than 2 minutes the modern fps games so how they could help for the tech test ?

Don't you think there are thousands of old PS1 players (like myself), who are also quite familiar with the BF series etc.?

Anyway ... looking forward to the next invitation waves.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 06:47 PM

Watching a PS2 Beta thread is a lot like watching Fox News if you turned a pack of wild rabies infected coyotes loose on the cast.
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Also a lame video

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:47 PM

Watching a PS2 Beta thread is a lot like watching Fox News if you turned a pack of wild rabies infected coyotes loose on the cast.

I think I'd rather watch that.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 06:51 PM

I think I'd rather watch that.

here's a good video, though

Epic Gerbil Fight - YouTube

Stew

2012-07-25, 06:51 PM

Don't you think there are thousands of old PS1 players (like myself), who are also quite familiar with the BF series etc.?

Anyway ... looking forward to the next invitation waves.

yes i think so iam a Ps1 vets but not a Ps1 actual players ive stop playing ps1 back in 2007 the gameplay back then was to old for me so ive switch to another different but massive scales game Call MAG on ps3 and it was also a great experience its not like Planetside with all vehicules based etc.. but it as style and a good gameplay mechanics

Planetside 2 will beat anything anyway

and i think those who are call or mark as Ps1 vets are not the golden age ps1 vets like myself or maybe you I dont know but ps1 actual players are mark as ps1 vets and many of them are actually people who dislike or hate Modern fps mechanics

thats why they have choose some Pro gamers and some hardcore BF clans to be part of the first platoon and i understand that choice !

Rumblepit

2012-07-25, 06:56 PM

it was this month a year ago when i started to buy my way into beta.not sure if this would work"until now" i talked my buddy into giving me his 9 year old cr5/vet account, and on top of that i got 2 pc gamer mags to be safe.

im gonna get me some BETA :)

MasterChief096

2012-07-25, 06:57 PM

I've been subbed (monthly, never yearly or tri-monthly or whatever) since release. Been playing since beta. Spent thousands on this game total. If I'm not a vet, don't know who is.

BlazingSun

2012-07-25, 08:13 PM

thats why they have choose some Pro gamers and some hardcore BF clans to be part of the first platoon and i understand that choice !

What I was trying to communicate is, that if that is really the case, they could have found those amongst (ex-)PS1 players as well, if they wanted to.

On another note, Smedley and SOE in general have to work on their PR skills a bit. They probably have good intentions when communicating with the community, but the sometimes unclear or cryptic messages can backfire a bit. Although the raving of some guys on a forum about a PC game is not that tragic to begin with, it could be handled a bit better. :groovy:

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 08:50 PM

What I was trying to communicate is, that if that is really the case, they could have found those amongst (ex-)PS1 players as well, if they wanted to.

On another note, Smedley and SOE in general have to work on their PR skills a bit. They probably have good intentions when communicating with the community, but the sometimes unclear or cryptic messages can backfire a bit. Although the raving of some guys on a forum about a PC game is not that tragic to begin with, it could be handled a bit better. :groovy:

Yeah, like running through the crowd tranqing people right and left :)

TheApoc

2012-07-25, 10:23 PM

As long as station pass is counted I'm good to go, been logging into planetside every now and then just to seem active.. I could always get into the game even before the free time. So here is fingers crossed..

kidwithstick

2012-07-25, 10:38 PM

So basically the people who bought the pcgamer with priority access are higher up than me because I stopped subbing a few years ago?:rofl:

Death2All

2012-07-26, 03:23 AM

So basically the people who bought the pcgamer with priority access are higher up than me because I stopped subbing a few years ago?:rofl:

That's one way to look at it. Another is that perhaps they want more people who are active with the current game to be testing it first over people who've been active for a few years.

TheSaltySeagull

2012-07-26, 04:41 AM

That's one way to look at it. Another is that perhaps they want more people who are active with the current game to be testing it first over people who've been active for a few years.

Thats one way to look at it. Another is that you may have people who have only gotten into PS within the last year or so(or not at all if the got a hold of a key) being given priority over older vets who maybe have played for 8 years but decided to unsub within the last year for whatever reason.

At the end of the day its not a big deal cuz we all will get in at some point but when you look at it the way I stated it above its easy to see how some people feel a bit cheated. Personally I think it would have been more fair to select vet accounts at random rather than inviting based on whether or not your account was active during a specific time period. But alas I am not SOE and it wouldnt be a proper beta without a little drama.

That one noob

2012-07-26, 06:22 AM

Ah well shit, not going to be part of the first wave I guess. Oh well, I got me a key anyway, so I guess that's all that matters.

Xeller

2012-07-26, 11:51 AM

So basically the people who bought the pcgamer with priority access are higher up than me because I stopped subbing a few years ago?

Jesus Christ people. Read the previous posts!

The tier is this:

0. Tech Test
Anyone who participated in the tech test regardless of veteran status, subscription status, priority key, etc are being carried over to beta.

1. Active subscriptions
These are the people who were paying for a subscription at the time free play began.

2. Previously subscribed
These are people who have had a Planetside subscription at any point in the history of Planetside. Curious if this is you? Log into your station account. Do you have free time enabled for Planetside 1? Then you are in this tier.

3. Priority keys
PCGamer/Twitter/E3/Any other key handed out by SOE

4. General Registration
Anyone who made an account on Planetside2.com and signed up for beta but never got a key from any Tier 3 sources.

All of this has been confirmed by Smedley. His tweets were posted earlier in this thread.

Mods, please pin the tier order so we can squelch this.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 11:52 AM

Jesus Christ people. Read the previous posts!

The tier is this:

0. Tech Test
Anyone who participated in the tech test regardless of veteran status, subscription status, priority key, etc are being carried over to beta.

1. Active subscriptions
These are the people who were paying for a subscription at the time free play began.

2. Previously subscribed
These are people who have had a Planetside subscription at any point in the history of Planetside. Curious if this is you? Log into your station account. Do you have free time enabled for Planetside 1? Then you are in this tier.

3. Priority keys
PCGamer/Twitter/E3/Any other key handed out by SOE

4. General Registration
Anyone who made an account on Planetside2.com and signed up for beta but never got a key from any Tier 3 sources.

All of this has been confirmed by Smedley. His tweets were posted earlier in this thread.

Mods, please pin the tier order so we can squelch this.

It's pinned in Hamma's sticky at the top of the forums. Still won't die.