Beta priority clarification. [Archive]

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:09 PM

The following text is quoted from John Smedley's (President of SOE) twitter account.

"There seems to be some confusion about PS1 Vets and the PS2 Beta. Let me clear it up once and for all. There are going to be multiple phases of the beta. Simply put we are adding more people in different waves simply due to capacity. Every single PS1 player who has ever subscribed to the game will have their Station Account activated at some point during the beta beginning with people who actively are subscribers. Again though we can only let in so many people during each phase so invitations are by necessity going to be staggered. So basically if you've ever subbed to the game you're going to be in. However current subs are in the front of the line for that. In addition we have Priority beta keys given out they will be let in in the early phases as well. For people that ask me "I played from 2005-2007 am I in soon?" the answer is you will be in an early phase. This is all going to be a moot point here soon as we just open the beta and start letting people in. I hope this helps.

I do apologize if it wasn't clearer sooner. This whole thing has an insane number of moving parts here are just a few examples of those parts. Status of the build. Number of Beta servers in our multiple data centers worldwide the amount of time it takes to deploy a build (7 gig copied to EU data center is NOT immediate despite some "experts" telling me otherwise people's health (the team is pulling insane hours right now). Bugs. Bugs. More bugs. And as that old saying goes.. the best laid battle plans go out the window the second the fight starts there are days where we can't fix a critical bug in time to light the servers up on time so they are lit up late we've launched 11 MMOs. Our deployment systems are world class but these are complicated beasties. "

Now he also replied to a tweet I sent him about something alot of people had been wondering about:

"Emil Johansson ‏@iAmEmilJ
@j_smedley Just one thing that is still not clear, sorry to bother you, is there any difference between PC-Gamer, E3 and Twitter keys?

1m John Smedley ‏@j_smedley
@iAmEmilJ they are all priority keys so no. Those will be let in after ps1 players but in priority ahead of normal signups on our website. "

That means that existing subs get in first, former subs get in after that and when all those people have been let in everyone with a key from Twitter, E3 or PC Gamer will get in.

Sorry to all you guys that bought the magazine just to get a key.

Important new information regarding veterans with activated keys:

http://i.imgur.com/AgNLB.png

TL;DR active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 05:11 PM

:bang:

MaxoramaUSMC

2012-07-25, 05:11 PM

Sooooo. What if your a vet but jumped the gun and used a pcg key.

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:12 PM

Let's the beta key thread spam begin! Who will win this time?

haticK

2012-07-25, 05:12 PM

Just when you think everything has had an answer, there's another question.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:14 PM

Thank god. An actual answer.

Going to take this chance and LOL at all the people that told me I was stupid because I thought Twitter/PC Gamer were going to be same priority.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:14 PM

Sooooo. What if your a vet but jumped the gun and used a pcg key.

I see two possible options. One the server tries to activate your account automatically (most likely) because of your vet status. We have no idea what might happen then, for all we know the universe might divide itself by zero...

Or you get a veteran level beta key sent to your e-mail. Though I don't think that's very likely :/

We don't really now what will happen I guess :shrug:

Thank god. An actual answer.

Going to take this chance and LOL at all the people that told me I was stupid because I thought Twitter/PC Gamer were going to be same priority.

Glad we're on the same team then!

Joomba

2012-07-25, 05:14 PM

I wonder how many current subscribers there are.

LZachariah

2012-07-25, 05:17 PM

I wonder if Smed's Tweets will lead to a MASSIVE influx of re-subs this afternoon.

pajonk

2012-07-25, 05:17 PM

Duckforceone

2012-07-25, 05:17 PM

so me with my brand new planetside account, actually count as a subscriber, and should get invited among the first... :D

which means, people can buy ps1 now to get into beta faster...

SpcFarlen

2012-07-25, 05:18 PM

Soon.

SFJake

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

IgloGlass -> Smedley didn't say that people with beta keys will get in last. People with active PS1 accounts will get in 1st and after that people with former ps1 acc AND all those who got the keys simultaneously! :-)

No, it clearly states subs first, vets second, keys 3rd. Thats not last though, since after that, more people can get in randomly.

haticK

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

I would assume since they plan on inviting anyone who ever paid for PS1 there will be many who won't even care about playing PS2 so they'll have to start inviting more a lot faster because the number of active players won't be high enough.

AzureWatcher

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

I wonder if Smed's Tweets will lead to a MASSIVE influx of re-subs this afternoon.

That is interesting. I wonder if it's not too late to create a PS1 account? >.>

FINALCUT

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

OMG So I can Haz Beta key ?:doh::rofl::lol::D:p

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

IgloGlass -> Smedley didn't say that people with beta keys will get in last. People with active PS1 accounts will get in 1st and after that people with former ps1 acc AND all those who got the keys simultaneously! :-)

I think the order is active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups as he recently tweeted :)

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:19 PM

No, you guys are forgetting or didn't know what started this whole thing:

Tweet from Smed: https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/227906229832396800

@j_smedley PS1 vets, is that anyone owning the game at the time beta starts or?

@duckforceone ps1 vets - people subscribed ahead of us giving people free time followed by anyone who played in the last year.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 05:20 PM

Let's the beta key thread spam begin! Who will win this time?

I WILL I WILL I WILL!

Seriously, why do we have two of these now?

-edit

I'm afraid any further attempts to clarify are doomed to the vicious cycle of repetition we have seen previously. But who knows, maybe something will be accomplished this time?

NOT.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:21 PM

I WILL I WILL I WILL!

Seriously, why do we have two of these now?

I believe people needed a front-up explanation so they wouldn't have to look at the last page of some thread :)

I WILL I WILL I WILL!

Seriously, why do we have two of these now?

-edit

I'm afraid any further attempts to clarify are doomed to the vicious cycle of repetition we have seen previously. But who knows, maybe something will be accomplished this time?

NOT.

Ugh now I had to make a double post because I'm too lazy to edit and you edited...

Yeah maybe people will be stupid and retarded thread week will become retarded thread MONTH.. But let's have hope for humanity!

Edit: Gotta love when some good coding automatically puts the posts together!

Zidane

2012-07-25, 05:23 PM

Cant wait, thanks for the clarification!

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:25 PM

All neatly summed up right here.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

I'm keeping this one for later.

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:27 PM

LOL, so simple. Why Smed didn't do that to begin with! :P

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:30 PM

All neatly summed up right here.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

I'm keeping this one for later.

Yes it is very neat, added it at the bottom of the original post as a TL;DR.

LOL, so simple. Why Smed didn't do that to begin with! :P

Well there's always a risk when being this open with their plans, as SOE are, a "maybe" will become a guarantee and that may lead to lots of bad things. Guess it's just better for them to keep things to themselves :shrug:

pajonk

2012-07-25, 05:31 PM

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 05:31 PM

@IgloGlass

Yeah, I will give PSU credit for that if nothing else, the forum operation is perfect. I love that feature.

WiteBeam

2012-07-25, 05:32 PM

If its current subbed players first, and the free month is over in a few days...PS1 servers will be a ghost town next week.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:33 PM

No guys, please show me where exactly does he state that priority keys will get in last. All i see is that active subs first and then he says that former subs and priority keys " IN EARLY PHASES ". He didn't state that keys are last, if so then please copy paste it. Mabye i am blind.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:34 PM

No guys, please show me where exactly does he state that priority keys will get in last. All i see is that active subs first and then he says that former subs and priority keys " IN EARLY PHASES ". He didn't state that keys are last, if so then please copy paste it. Mabye i am blind.

Sigh, active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 05:34 PM

pajonk

2012-07-25, 05:35 PM

Also does anyone know how long will the first phase take? (first phase which is people with active subs)

matthewpeters

2012-07-25, 05:35 PM

edit-oops repeating what others said before I got the post in

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:36 PM

Also does anyone know how long will the first phase take? (first phase which is people with active subs)

I knew it!

This is why they can never win. Once one thing gets clarified, everyone starts stampeding to the next subject.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:36 PM

When it comes down to the priority keys it's not really any different from how it used to be.

However if the hierarchy is: active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups right now then I used to believe that it was something like anytime subbed > PC Gamer keys > Twitter/E3 keys > normal signups

That's why this changes alot for me at least.

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 05:37 PM

Also does anyone know how long will the first phase take? (first phase which is people with active subs)

No, we haven't gotten any clarification on that. It will probably depend on how big each pool is though. For example, if they let in 1000 players a week, it will go a lot quicker if there are fewer currently subscribed vets than if there are a lot of them.

Simokon

2012-07-25, 05:37 PM

It is crazy how fast this thread can get replies lol

haticK

2012-07-25, 05:39 PM

I'm hoping for multiple waves per week. Otherwise it will be awhile before anyone who isn't a vet gets in.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:39 PM

Important new information regarding veterans with activated keys:

http://i.imgur.com/AgNLB.png

Doxy

2012-07-25, 05:49 PM

So much for PCG stating their keys are "top priority" when everyone even their gramma got a key off twitter.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:50 PM

So much for PCG stating their keys are "top priority" when everyone even their gramma got a key off twitter.

I wouldn't consider buying a magazine that prestigious either.

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:51 PM

Still top priority vs. regular non-key beta sign-ups. But there is a priority access hierarchy according to Smed...

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:52 PM

Its vets then keys which is what must of us were thinking all along. It just ends up Vets are tiered, but keys are not. I don't see the big deal.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:53 PM

So much for PCG stating their keys are "top priority" when everyone even their gramma got a key off twitter.

Well they are top priority, just that there aren't so many tiers lol.. It was given that veterans would get in first and PC gamer keys are right behind!... As well as everyone with a notebook, pencil and a camera that posts a picture of themselves with a poorly-drawn empire logo on twitter and receives a key :')

I wouldn't consider buying a magazine that prestigious either.

Totally agreed... Must admit that I feel rather powerful right now with an extra beta key in my inbox from Higby, when I've already handed out four keys to my friends x)

Still top priority vs. regular non-key beta sign-ups. But there is a priority access hierarchy according to Smed...

No there is not.

All beta keys, Twitter/E3/PC-Gamer are equal and that's that.

It was old info that is no longer accurate. The up to date information is that they are equal, and for all I know they have always been. When you activate them it always says "priority access", no matter what kind of code.

WiteBeam

2012-07-25, 05:54 PM

Still top priority vs. regular non-key beta sign-ups. But there is a priority access hierarchy according to Smed...

So twitter keys>PCGamer keys?

Crator

2012-07-25, 05:56 PM

Smed just said 'Priority Keys'.... So all beta keys (PCGamer/Twitter/PS2 Events) are in the same bucket.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 05:56 PM

So twitter keys>PCGamer keys?

No they are equal.

Mongo

2012-07-25, 05:57 PM

This is off the our forum:

Has anyone else got an invite to the technical test? I've just got mine through and wondered if anyone that has actually played it before could give me some starter hints

Reading though the email it reads as pre-beta so I guess I'm in the lucky group that gets to try this first.

I've been reading that you'll be going Vanu soverignty so I'll focus on them.

He has never played before, Id take any assurances of vet priority with a serious pinch of salt, sorry hopefuls!

Comet

2012-07-25, 05:58 PM

twitter keys = pc gamer keys

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 05:58 PM

@Sephirex

Then you're mad! MAD I tell you! How can you not SEE? It's right HERE! See? LOOK! LOOK AT IT! I don't understand how you don't see?!!! BWAAAAA (runs off into the night)

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 05:59 PM

This is off the our forum:

He has never played before, Id take any assurances of vet priority with a serious pinch of salt, sorry hopefuls!

I do distinctly remember one of the devs saying vets would be given priority for the tech test if they had the right machine specs.....

I wonder what happened to that.

LegioX

2012-07-25, 06:00 PM

Im seeing priority keys getting in last. FML:mad:

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 06:00 PM

This is off the our forum:

He has never played before, Id take any assurances of vet priority with a serious pinch of salt, sorry hopefuls!

The actively subbed veterans getting in first only applies to the invites being sent once beta has actually started.

What this means is that they will be the first to be invited to beta, but other people might already have been invited.

That means that the people in the tech test right now will of course be able to continue playing and therefore be the first ones in the beta.

Though those players were chosen only because of their rigs and not veteran status or anything. Heard enough whining about that already.

I do distinctly remember one of the devs saying vets would be given priority for the tech test if they had the right machine specs.....

I wonder what happened to that.

I remember no such thing :/

Reizod

2012-07-25, 06:02 PM

This is off the our forum:

He has never played before, Id take any assurances of vet priority with a serious pinch of salt, sorry hopefuls!

That was for the Tech Test... not this next phase of beta. Please keep that in mind.

Simokon

2012-07-25, 06:02 PM

Im seeing priority keys getting in last. FML:mad:

Second to last, they are ahead of people who just randomly sign up... if I am understanding correctly. lol

Crator

2012-07-25, 06:02 PM

I do distinctly remember one of the devs saying vets would be given priority for the tech test if they had the right machine specs.....

I wonder what happened to that.

I also do not remember this being said....

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:03 PM

I remember no such thing :/

It was one of the minor devs. I'll try and find it as Hearsay is worthless of course.

LegioX

2012-07-25, 06:04 PM

I just wanna play:cry:

Brusi

2012-07-25, 06:05 PM

I just deactivated my account this week... After the 30 days free thing for Planetside day. I'm hoping they took the active sub data before they gave out the free time!!!!

QuantumMechanic

2012-07-25, 06:08 PM

My sub just ran out today, but I since I was subbed already when the free 30 days was given out for planetside day I think I should techinically be active and subbed for another 30 days :)

Anyway thanks go to Smed for further clarifying this extremely touchy topic.

Mongo

2012-07-25, 06:09 PM

Ig lets hope so, just realise his rig setup is decidedly normal and he has not heard of PS before. I suspect they will just invite anyone no priority, or maybe thats what they want a fresh pair of eyes. Im just pointing out that chances are there is no special privileged first invites.

For some reason I smile and imagine that Iraqi Minister of Information saying "We will prioritise vets first". like Im saying take anything they say with a pinch of salt and you will not get emo :D

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 06:09 PM

I just deactivated my account this week... After the 30 days free thing for Planetside day. I'm hoping they took the active sub data before they gave out the free time!!!!

You should actually consider yourself lucky because if I'm correct, and right now I feel correct, they count the "active subscribers" as people that subscribed the month before the free month, so you should be fine! :)

Xyntech

2012-07-25, 06:13 PM

You should actually consider yourself lucky because if I'm correct, and right now I feel correct, they count the "active subscribers" as people that subscribed the month before the free month, so you should be fine! :)

It seems likely, but based on the wording of the tweet I don't think it's a certainty. The post in question seemed mostly focused on who was considered a vet, not who was considered an "active subscriber." While it's somewhat reasonable to assume that the cutoff date is the same for both, there really hasn't been any hard clarification on the latter.

What's 15 more bucks, right?

lolroflroflcake

2012-07-25, 06:16 PM

Littleman

2012-07-25, 06:21 PM

So uh... my question regarding active subs:

Is that an active sub going into the free 30 days, or could it be some time earlier this year by like say... a mere one of two months difference if that between a sub ending and the free pass beginning?

I totally opted for the free freaking month coming with Planetside day instead of resubbing specifically for it, okay! I know I reactivated my account at some point earlier this year with the mindset that, "Hey, if I sub, my chances will improve!" Of course when I subbed, seeing the "remaining pop slots" reduced to 75 on a single continent was the most exciting thing one could expect during prime time.

ThermalReaper

2012-07-25, 06:21 PM

Path of exile comes out friday, and the beta for planetside is probably out tuesday. This is gaming heaven now.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 06:36 PM

Never mind someone beat me to the active subscribers thing, although I don't think its people who subscribed a month before I just think you need to have had a subscription active when the free time was handed out.

Atleast this is the way it sounded to me.

Yeah that's what I was going for, having paid time when the free time started, though I worded it quite weirdly :groovy:

So uh... my question regarding active subs:

Is that an active sub going into the free 30 days, or could it be some time earlier this year by like say... a mere one of two months difference if that between a sub ending and the free pass beginning?

I totally opted for the free freaking month coming with Planetside day instead of resubbing specifically for it, okay! I know I reactivated my account at some point earlier this year with the mindset that, "Hey, if I sub, my chances will improve!" Of course when I subbed, seeing the "remaining pop slots" reduced to 75 on a single continent was the most exciting thing one could expect during prime time.

Sorry but you're probably treated as a "non-active" veteran since you didn't have an active subscription when the free time was handed out. I've got to wonder how many people actually had active subscriptions! Can't be that many, beta will not be quite so full the first few days.

FINALCUT

2012-07-25, 06:41 PM

Higby said only NC will be in the Beta. Wait,that wouldn't work,who would we fight ? Maybe we would stand around slapping each other on the back and congradulating each other on getting into Beta.:D

SavageB

2012-07-25, 06:43 PM

I have had a active account for a little bit now...Problem is I also inputed a PCG key...I wonder if I kinda screwed myself with regards of getting access sooner.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:44 PM

Higby said only NC will be in the Beta. Wait,that wouldn't work,who would we fight ?

I know of a certain Youtuber that came up with a solution to that problem.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 06:44 PM

Higby said only NC will be in the Beta. Wait,that wouldn't work,who would we fight ? Maybe we would stand around slapping each other on the back and congradulating each other on getting into Beta.:D

Well, that one dude TKed a lot...

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:45 PM

I have had a active account for a little bit now...Problem is I also inputed a PCG key...I wonder if I kinda screwed myself with regards of getting access sooner.

This was posted earlier in the thread.

http://i.imgur.com/AgNLB.png

pajonk

2012-07-25, 06:49 PM

Path of exile comes out friday, and the beta for planetside is probably out tuesday. This is gaming heaven now.

Path Of Exile? Omfg, no thank you, diablo 3 spoiled all future hack&slash games for me... i'm done with H&S forevah.

SavageB

2012-07-25, 06:50 PM

This was posted earlier in the thread.

http://i.imgur.com/AgNLB.png

thx.

pajonk

2012-07-25, 06:51 PM

So guys what do you think, how long will the first phase take? Will they invite ps1 vets for a week and priority keys the next week or perhaps the next month ?

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:54 PM

I thought him saying it would all be moot, since they wanted to start really opening the servers up shortly into beta, was interesting.

But I also think he's overly optimistic on how long it will take to reach that point.

Littleman

2012-07-25, 06:54 PM

Yeah that's what I was going for, having paid time when the free time started, though I worded it quite weirdly :groovy:

Sorry but you're probably treated as a "non-active" veteran since you didn't have an active subscription when the free time was handed out. I've got to wonder how many people actually had active subscriptions! Can't be that many, beta will not be quite so full the first few days.

It's true that the "active" numbers will be low and I know they were picking up as the year went on "just in case" (they were right...) It's being counted among the non-active vets that's the real concern :p For every active, there could be anywhere from 100-1000 retired veterans. I'm pretty sure I'm part of that larger pool :cry:

Mind you, I suspect they'll be prioritizing survey submitted vet accounts over non-surveyed vet accounts, as they can more reliably count on individuals/accounts actively TRYING to get into the tech test to be watching for beta access. An invite spent on someone that may not even know or care of PS2's existence (somehow) is a wasted invite, and this forum community is ready to turn into rabid, howling baboons over any invite/play opportunity it deems "wasted" while they're still left out in the cold. The "silent" vets as I'll call them are a risky invite compared to the survey submitting vets. At least with the tech test, SOE knew they were throwing invites at people looking for one.

On that note, I also expect near daily invites as a result. They can send out 10000, and may only see 400 users log in and download Planetside 2. We can be pretty sure the other 9600 aren't on a week long vacation in a location with absolutely no internet access. At least... 95% of them, and that is an ass-pull ratio I'll stand by. NOTE: The ratio I'll stand by, not the 10000 invites, 400 respond. That number is completely my-cat's-balls-fake.

Minigun

2012-07-25, 06:56 PM

If you had an active sub sometime in the last year/or had an active sub, or still have an active sub when the free time was given out you are first priority. All these people going sign up (which i'm sure are many) it will not bump you to subscriber access. That's my understanding and it makes sense.

Edit: I have an active subscription been going for a few months now, Also was sub'd last year for a couple months. The CB will have enough people between the (guess) 500-1200 active subs currently and those carried over from the tech test.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 06:56 PM

It's true that the "active" numbers will be low and I know they were picking up as the year went on "just in case" (they were right...) It's being counted among the non-active vets that's the real concern :p For every active, there could be anywhere from 100-1000 retired veterans. I'm pretty sure I'm part of that larger pool :cry:

Mind you, I suspect they'll be prioritizing survey submitted vet accounts over non-surveyed vet accounts, as they can more reliably count on individuals/accounts actively TRYING to get into the tech test to be watching for beta access. An invite spent on someone that may not even know or care of PS2's existence (somehow) is a wasted invite, and this forum community is ready to turn into rabid, howling baboons over any opportunity it deems "wasted" while they're still left out in the cold. The "silent" vets as I'll call them are a risky invite compared to the survey submitting vets. At least with the tech test, they knew they were throwing invites at people looking for one.

On that note, I also expect near daily invites as a result. They can send out 10000, and may only see 400 users log in and download Planetside 2. We can be pretty sure the other 9600 aren't on a week long vacation in a location with absolutely no internet access. At least... 95% of them, and that is an ass-pull ratio I'll stand by.

I'm also assuming they're only grabbing vets that signed up for Beta, and not just spamming the email of every account they have on file.

Littleman

2012-07-25, 07:00 PM

I'm also assuming they're only grabbing vets that signed up for Beta, and not just spamming the email of every account they have on file.

Oh yeah... I guess we did just kind of had to sign up initially...

Still grasping for that "tech survey" submission straw, hoping it will bump me up the list.

What can I say? I want to play, and I owe no one to practice any form of courtesy and compassion.

WiteBeam

2012-07-25, 07:04 PM

I'm also assuming they're only grabbing vets that signed up for Beta, and not just spamming the email of every account they have on file.

Very intelligent comment. There may have been 100,000 PS players in the past. But that doesn't mean they all signed up and showed interest.

Rasui

2012-07-25, 07:13 PM

*sigh* I have a feeling this will take a while.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 07:15 PM

*sigh* I have a feeling this will take a while.

Maybe.
My guess is probably two weeks of vet invites and maybe a few keys.
Then they'll kick the servers off to a full 24 hours and start the rest of the keys over a period of 2-3 weeks.

Two weeks was how long it took in PS1 beta to kick off to 24 hour servers.

Purely speculation of course. I make no promise to the truth. For all I know, this entire Beta is completely inside my own mind and I'm drooling in a locked up room while aliens destroy the earth.

Envenom

2012-07-25, 08:00 PM

Don't get your hopes up peeps. You'll be sadly disappointed. The waves will probably be over several weeks/months.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 08:21 PM

Don't get your hopes up peeps. You'll be sadly disappointed. The waves will probably be over several weeks/months.

Yes indeed. If anything we'll actually see the release date for the game in a little less than two hours.. If we're lucky that is.

IgloGlass

2012-07-25, 08:26 PM

I highly doubt smedly posted "I'm sorry to those who bought a magazine for a key"... I just seriously fucking doubt this.

Oh yeah no, I am pretty certain there was no " " for that part of the text, it was completely my thoughts on the subject.

Sephirex

2012-07-25, 08:26 PM

I highly doubt smedly posted "I'm sorry to those who bought a magazine for a key"... I just seriously fucking doubt this.

Wait, who said this? Looks at OP.

Yeah it's outside the " ".

pajonk

2012-07-25, 08:34 PM

They should simply say how long till they let in the priority code people and if it's like few months then how much do we have to send to their bank account to be let in right now ;-P heh

stylus

2012-07-25, 08:35 PM

What about the people posting on the beta forums saying they have never played planetside?

Rivenshield

2012-07-25, 08:39 PM

Don't get your hopes up peeps. You'll be sadly disappointed. The waves will probably be over several weeks/months.

'Eventually' and 'before the general public' is good enough for me.

It's like a Trekkie being offered the guaranteed chance to play an extra in the next Star Trek movie... but nobody knows when their scene is going to be shot. :D

What about the people posting on the beta forums saying they have never played planetside?
They were selected for the tech test, which is ongoing. A tech test is not beta by another name, as I seem compelled to explain on a daily basis. Full stop.

BlueSkies

2012-07-25, 08:41 PM

What about the people posting on the beta forums saying they have never played planetside?

*sigh

tech test =/= beta

Xaine

2012-07-25, 08:49 PM

Only took them about 6 months to put that paragraph out there. Really should have been sooner -_-

The Kush

2012-07-25, 08:51 PM

This is excellent news and thanks for being clear. +1 for smed and soe

Littleman

2012-07-25, 09:39 PM

*sigh

tech test =/= beta

*Pet peeve button*

It's semantics. They could call it a stress test. They could call it the first impressions test. They could have called it a beta test.

Regardless, SOE is still gathering all the data there is to gather from people simply playing the game, even the non-PC related stuff like weapons balance.

james

2012-07-25, 09:42 PM

Great so they change their stance again. Congrats SOE you just screwed over all the pc gamer codes, the longest time the way you all advertised for the beta.
So if we are lucky we may be in by oct the way they are going. Don't call something priority or that your be one of the first in when its total bs

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-25, 10:10 PM

Super weird that everything I said in the big ass fight about twitter keys was right. I feel like pc gamer kids would owe me money if they didn't spend it all trying to buy a free game's beta lmfao.

Great so they change their stance again. Congrats SOE you just screwed over all the pc gamer codes, the longest time the way you all advertised for the beta.
So if we are lucky we may be in by oct the way they are going. Don't call something priority or that your be one of the first in when its total bs

Quit being such a baby, you bought a fucking magazine.

james

2012-07-25, 10:17 PM

Super weird that everything I said in the big ass fight about twitter keys was right. I feel like pc gamer kids would owe me money if they didn't spend it all trying to buy a free game's beta lmfao.

Quit being such a baby, you bought a fucking magazine.

Which was promised priority access, and it seems they overstated certain things that they both get in the first wave of invites. I just wish they would have come out and said it back when these keys came out, that is were the frustration is coming from.

On a side note from John Smedley twitter, to me asking how long
weeks at most. Maybe sooner. Just depends on how things go. It's not long at all.

Simokon

2012-07-25, 10:27 PM

I think the problem here is the word priority seems to be misleading to some people.

james

2012-07-25, 10:32 PM

I think the problem here is the word priority seems to be misleading to some people.

Yep when i think of priority i think of first, most important etc. If my boss tells me this a priority i get it done asap.

Also putting
some of the earliest access available. in there beta email doesn't help either

Littleman

2012-07-25, 10:38 PM

Which was promised priority access, and it seems they overstated certain things that they both get in the first wave of invites. I just wish they would have come out and said it back when these keys came out, that is were the frustration is coming from.

On a side note from John Smedley twitter, to me asking how long
weeks at most. Maybe sooner. Just depends on how things go. It's not long at all.

Once beta opens, I imagine pacing out invites is more a matter of avoiding server logins and download cluster-****s than it is simply to test specific areas of the game. They can do the latter with 40 full servers or 1 full server. Letting everyone swarm in at the same time is just asking to crash systems unnecessarily. There really is nothing that can be done to keep tens of thousands of people from clogging up the login server and bringing everything down outside of forcefully pacing out their access to the game.

I'm confident no two waves will be more than 2 or 3 days apart unless the $#!% hits the fan at some point and hardware starts failing when before it was doing fine.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-25, 10:48 PM

I think the problem here is the word priority seems to be misleading to some people.

I was in a driving school once one of the other students simply could not get the grasp of... anything. No bull, he failed the class because he couldn't follow simple directions like "turn left... No, LEFT.... No, that's right, go LEFT! I SAID GO LEFT, GODDAMMIT!"

God, that was funny, though... Kinda like these beta threads.

julfo

2012-07-26, 03:11 AM

Lol! Feel bad for all those that bought PCG just for the key.

eybro

2012-07-26, 04:34 AM

I think the problem here is the word priority seems to be misleading to some people.

It's not just the word "priority" that is misleading..

it's also the acronym "VIP" seen here on the cover of the pcgamer mag

false advertising ftw! :P

http://images.mobilism.org/?dm=TH6A

IgloGlass

2012-07-26, 05:41 AM

It's not just the word "priority" that is misleading..

it's also the acronym "VIP" seen here on the cover of the pcgamer mag

false advertising ftw! :P

http://images.mobilism.org/?dm=TH6A

Well it is sort of VIP, I mean you get in first, right after the veterans who should get in quicker, the only thing is that you get in with alot of other people that have quite frankly "fought" for their key as well.

Momember

2012-07-26, 07:15 AM

Kindly disregard what others have posted this is how SOE plans to work out Beta invites :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npSWi4DOM6w#t=1m32s

Noxey

2012-07-26, 07:19 AM

IgloGlass

2012-07-26, 07:24 AM

So seems SOE do realise that years of subscriptions to their previous game > buying some magazine.

That's how it should be ;)

Also @ the above pic, elderscrolls MMO, wtf? - will ruin everything the series stands for.

Yes they did get things right there!

I hate everything about that game.. Can you believe they even have classes!? When this game fails it might even make it harder for bethesda to release a new TES game ._. Luckily it's not Bethesda making the game, it's some other studio, so they won't put all their resources into it, I want another Fallout lol

Zulthus

2012-07-26, 07:29 AM

Ok, so vets and active subs get in before randoms with keys. That's all I wanted clarified.

I closed my sub and it ends in the middle of next month, so I should be good (I hope)

Solidblock

2012-07-26, 07:31 AM

Am I missing something, why are people getting upset about PCG keys? I completely understand, and in fact endorse that veterans get in first.

eybro

2012-07-26, 07:42 AM

you get in first, right after the veterans

I lol'd at this.. well thats not first then is it bro? :D

my understanding of VIP access is that there is no other group that could be considered to have a higher access
SOE has not just mislead us but also pcgamer mag haha

Solidblock

2012-07-26, 07:46 AM

Ohhh, it's that PCG keys don't get in as the same time as Vets? Didn't they say that ages ago, people just need to man the fuck up.

eybro

2012-07-26, 07:51 AM

Am I missing something, why are people getting upset about PCG keys? I completely understand, and in fact endorse that veterans get in first.

I also agree vets should get in first what I am pointing out is that SOE should have never called pcgamer keys "priority" or "OMG VIP ACCESS" keys

and that this adds to the pattern of misinformation we are seeing from SOE.

Solidblock

2012-07-26, 08:04 AM

I also agree vets should get in first what I am pointing out is that SOE should have never called pcgamer keys "priority" or "OMG VIP ACCESS" keys

and that this adds to the pattern of misinformation we are seeing from SOE.

How's it misinformation, I was under the illusion that vets get in first. I'm sure that was said in the betas producer letter etc. etc. As well as being said countless times on twitter?

IgloGlass

2012-07-26, 08:05 AM

I lol'd at this.. well thats not first then is it bro? :D

my understanding of VIP access is that there is no other group that could be considered to have a higher access
SOE has not just mislead us but also pcgamer mag haha

It was intended as a joke because the guy was whining so glad you laughed ;)

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 08:11 AM

IgloGlass

2012-07-26, 08:16 AM

Lol, I don't believe a word he is saying. So far we have seen very strange things going on with the invitation of people to the pre-beta, also known as tech test.
The first wave won't be 100% vets, so the conclusion that all vets get in before guys with a key is just wrong. Its gonna be a lottery and he is lying to us again to make us feel better, just like they were lying to us with the "VIP priority access"-keys.

You I don't even..

He is the PRESIDENT of SOE. I'd guess you're still in school, but a boss like him can't just make public statements that aren't true like that! It's incredibly bad for the image of him and the company, it won't happen. Read the tweets yourself.

And please everyone, stop whining ._.

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 08:54 AM

You I don't even..

He is the PRESIDENT of SOE. I'd guess you're still in school, but a boss like him can't just make public statements that aren't true like that! It's incredibly bad for the image of him and the company, it won't happen. Read the tweets yourself.

And please everyone, stop whining ._.

If you are gullible enough to believe that the first wave will be vets only, you seem to be the school boy. That's just not gonna happen. I read the tweets but as usual there its room for interpretation you don't even see.

Signed by an engineer with a masters degree...

SgtMAD

2012-07-26, 08:56 AM

If you are gullible enough to believe that the first wave will be vets only, you seem to be the school boy. That's just not gonna happen. I read the tweets but as usual there its room for interpretation you don't even see.

Signed by an engineer with a masters degree...

from what I have seen this guy is correct,there are ppl that haven't ever played PS1 in the tech test

achayethenoo

2012-07-26, 09:19 AM

i agree vets should be top priority they have played the game from day one but smedley is talking poo for a start cos he did state that vets and pcg would be top priority in the beta and all so Matt Higby said it as well all you need to do is look back at there tweets

james

2012-07-26, 09:36 AM

from what I have seen this guy is correct,there are ppl that haven't ever played PS1 in the tech test

Tech Test was based off hardware not status.

But on to the other points if they would have just come out 6 months and said that vets get in first, then pc gamer keys. There wouldn't be a problem here. Its because they couldn't make up there mind and flip back between pc gamers get in with vets, or they don't or this and that. They allowed the missuse of words to allow the media to even more use qoutes from them. You do not use the word VIP or priority and they aren't the first who get in.

But in all seriousness they need a Community manager, devs and the president shouldn't be the CM's. Its just caused more confusion as different people have had different answer .

TotoDestroy

2012-07-26, 10:42 AM

To be fair you guys would all be mad too, if you bought a crap magazine specifically to get the PS2 "priority" key, only to realize several months later you could've saved $5 and spammed twitter.

Crator

2012-07-26, 10:43 AM

Definition of 'Priority' = Those who get access first, before regular beta status accounts.

-Priority access will be tiered:

*1st wave: Active PS1 subscriptions
*2nd wave: Any account that has has a PS1 subscription in the past
*3rd wave: Any account that has a beta key applied to it
*4th wave: Any non-priority beta account

To be fair you guys would all be mad too, if you bought a crap magazine specifically to get the PS2 "priority" key, only to realize several months later you could've saved $5 and spammed twitter.

To be fair, PS1 vets would all be mad if they didn't get (the SOE promised) 1st priority access that they truly deserve cause they paid a subscription for a game that hasn't had any development time done to it in the past 6 years!

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 10:54 AM

snap.

james

2012-07-26, 11:00 AM

Is it just me, or did SOE pull the lever for cash to flow in? I mean seriously, if that parsing is as simple as it sounds. People who buy Planetside 1 before monday get into the beta before the veterans, if the veterans have no active sub.

Seriously sounds like that after spending cash on the magazine earlier for a priority key, since I could have gotten a priority key that wasnt called a priority key when the mag was released. And now, I'm supposed to buy the game for more priority?

Seriously.

I agree here its was a pure marketing fail on SOE part, don't use the terms VIP or priority if the keys we could have go by just spamming the devs on twitter. I only spent 5 dollars so i could get in early. Now SOE is no you spend 15 more

Crator

2012-07-26, 11:02 AM

Goku

2012-07-26, 11:02 AM

Guys if you are posting twitter comments please be sure to read what the dev/CEO is responding to so you don't cause misconceptions of what the answer is.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:02 AM

I agree here its was a pure marketing fail on SOE part, don't use the terms VIP or priority if the keys we could have go by just spamming the devs on twitter. I only spent 5 dollars so i could get in early. Now SOE is no you spend 15 more

That's not the point, there has been a vague statement that the active subs get into the game first. It doesn't say that how many months you should have actually played before you are considered at the "vet / active" priority queue. I mean, to me it sounds like "Buy Planetside 1, get into Planetside 2 beta in the first waves!" = Buy your way to PS2 beta with priority that's actually an priority!

Edit:
Guys if you are posting twitter comments please be sure to read what the dev/CEO is responding to so you don't cause misconceptions of what the answer is.
Aye, I be troubled now. I have no idea how to even use twitter, and all these twitter quotes are making me go nuts.

james

2012-07-26, 11:04 AM

That's not the point, there has been a vague statement that the active subs get into the game first. It doesn't say that how many months you should have actually played before you are considered at the "vet / active" priority queue. I mean, to me it sounds like "Buy Planetside 1, get into Planetside 2 beta in the first waves!" = Buy your way to PS2 beta with priority that's actually an priority!

Thats true this who beta has just been a mess. Hell we don't even know if ps1 vets get in first

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 11:04 AM

Jesus people, soon it won't matter.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:05 AM

@NoviceBot I wish there was more clarification on what "Active Subscription" means. There was a question tweeted to Smed the other days asking what PS1 Vet means and he responded by saying that it means anyone who's been subbed in the past year, before we gave free 30 days out.... I think he really meant that definition to be for 'Active Sub' and not PS1 vet since they are making the status tiered...

Uhm. So it goes like:

1st tier: Those who have subbed before the free 30 days period, and currently possess an active subscription.
2nd tier: Those who have had an active sub in Planetside 1 before the free 30 days.
3rd tier: Beta keys
4th tier: The rest
Random tier: Tech tests / ?

james

2012-07-26, 11:06 AM

Jesus people, soon it won't matter.

but soon in SOE terms could be months. They just false advertised that made people buy some magazine

Crator

2012-07-26, 11:08 AM

Uhm. So it goes like:

1st tier: Those who have subbed before the free 30 days period, and currently possess an active subscription.
2nd tier: Those who have had an active sub in Planetside 1 before the free 30 days.
3rd tier: Beta keys
4th tier: The rest
Random tier: Tech tests / ?

I see it more like this:

*Tech Test: Random selection based on PC specs
*1st wave: Active PS1 subscriptions
*2nd wave: Any account that has has a PS1 subscription in the past
*3rd wave: Any account that has a beta key applied to it
*4th wave: Any non-priority beta account

-Active PS1 subs = Anyone subscribed in the past year, before the 30 free days were handed out.

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 11:08 AM

Guys if you are posting twitter comments please be sure to read what the dev/CEO is responding to so you don't cause misconceptions of what the answer is.

Did you just delete one of my posts? I didn't post anything from twitter.

james

2012-07-26, 11:10 AM

Here is the problem with the whole thing. This is a exact quote from Josh Hackney from july

Here’s exactly what he says: “External Beta will include primary rounds of entry for existing PlanetSide 1 players and additional External Beta registrants, including those who obtained Beta codes from the PC Gamer magazine cover feature.”

Now lets see what primary means first or highest in rank or importance; chief; principal: his primary goals in life.

gufftroad

2012-07-26, 11:10 AM

but soon in SOE terms could be months. They just false advertised that made people buy some magazine

to be fair there was no false advertising it was a magazine that came with a key you didn't pay for the key you payed for a magazine

Crator

2012-07-26, 11:11 AM

james

2012-07-26, 11:12 AM

to be fair there was no false advertising it was a magazine that came with a key you didn't pay for the key you payed for a magazine

They called it propriety , vip and primary, that kidna means your the first in. And to top it off the twitter and facebook whores get in the same time.

Yes, but he just didn't give the extra info about the tiers of waves. They probably didn't even have that all worked out at the time.

They need to stop talking before they have their crap figured out and use better choice of words. Its very much implied that pc gamer keys will be in the first wave not third

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 11:13 AM

james

2012-07-26, 11:14 AM

We got second place in the Beta Olympics. We're before everyone but vets. Why the tears?

I could have saved my five dollars and just been a twitter/facebook whore. Plus they mislead you just to buy that stupid mag, thinking you would be the first in.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:15 AM

[quote=gufftroad;802027]to be fair there was no false advertising it was a magazine that came with a key you didn't pay for the key you payed for a magazine

From a marketing point of view, the "priority" keys were a marketing strategy to boost the sales of the magazine. Even now the same magazine promotes that "our keys will be in first!" which, according to the developers are not. Now, that isn't false advertising directly, but it did misinform a lot of people to buy the magazine, myself included. Because I thought that said key would grant me the access to play within the first waves. Now, when the beta was less than weeks away, I was told that anyone who has used any kind of beta key, no matter the date of using it is prioritized on the same level as me. I do feel cheated.

drennam

2012-07-26, 11:17 AM

i have just one thing to say to this.

entitlement bitches! :D

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 11:18 AM

I could have saved my five dollars and just been a twitter/facebook whore. Plus they mislead you just to buy that stupid mag, thinking you would be the first in.

I'd have rather spent the five dollars.....

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 11:20 AM

Priority key... More like least priority key...

gufftroad

2012-07-26, 11:20 AM

So, Buy planetside 1 now, be one of the first ones in PS2.

From a marketing point of view, the "priority" keys were a marketing strategy to boost the sales of the magazine. Even now the same magazine promotes that "our keys will be in first!" which, according to the developers are not. Now, that isn't false advertising directly, but it did misinform a lot of people to buy the magazine, myself included. Because I thought that said key would grant me the access to play within the first waves. Now, when the beta was less than weeks away, I was told that anyone who has used any kind of beta key, no matter the date of using it is prioritized on the same level as me. I do feel cheated.

you do still have priority over a huge number of people who don't have a key just so you know i also bought the magazine

WiteBeam

2012-07-26, 11:20 AM

Priority key... More like least priority key...

snap.

you do still have priority over a huge number of people who don't have a key just so you know i also bought the magazine

You're right. There may have been hundreds and hundreds of keys shoveled out on twitter and shit. But that's nothing compared to the number of people that don't have keys or people that are just now hearing about the game.
It's the difference between getting into beta within the next couple weeks while all those other noobs to PS get in at months from now. Or maybe next year. Whenever open beta is.

james

2012-07-26, 11:25 AM

Priority key... More like least priority key...

BOOM

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 11:25 AM

but soon in SOE terms could be months. They just false advertised that made people buy some magazine

No, they did not.

james

2012-07-26, 11:26 AM

No, they did not.

Since when does primary mean third

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 11:28 AM

Since when does primary mean third

They have never said what keys will be in what invite phase. That's a forum creation.

Every current sub, every mag key, could all go in on the first wave. WE DON'T KNOW.

It also will not matter, beta will be flooded with people, with any key, then the game is free to play. Who cares about a few weeks?

james

2012-07-26, 11:30 AM

They have never said what keys will be in what invite phase. That's a forum creation.

Every current sub, every mag key, could all go in on the first wave. WE DON'T KNOW.

It also will not matter, beta will be flooded with people, with any key, then the game is free to play. Who cares about a few weeks?

I care because i go back to school in a month, and the time i have to play with drop majorly

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 11:31 AM

I care because i go back to school in a month, and the time i have to play with drop majorly

Priorities! Also, beta is not time to "Play".

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:31 AM

snap.

drennam

2012-07-26, 11:31 AM

its still the key with the highest priority,
players of planetside don't get keys, therefore your key is still a priority key

keyword: key

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 11:32 AM

Well, still, its pay-to-beta. Get a Planetside 1, 18,99. Get in before those who spent 5 bucks for a magazine. Oh well, those who payed 5 bucks are suddenly stuck in the same traffic with all the other keys, that weren't even called "vip / priority" keys at the time.

No.

2short

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:36 AM

its still the key with the highest priority,
players of planetside don't get keys, therefore your key is still a priority key

keyword: key

Actually, the keyword is: priority. As the magazine keys were the only ones referred as either priority or vip keys. The rest of them were just keys.

Its like paying 5 bucks to possess the skeleton key, and few months later every single key in the world is a skeleton key.

TermiGR

2012-07-26, 11:36 AM

I care because i go back to school in a month, and the time i have to play with drop majorly

lol - what a reason...
other people need to work every day
And remember that a beta is for testing to make the game even better for launch!

WiteBeam

2012-07-26, 11:37 AM

snap.

snap

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 11:38 AM

snap

snap that I'm unable to delete my own posts. Clearing them up to avoid misconceptions on things that arent clarified. As now my rage has settled down. Cigarettes are a wonderful medicine.

Edit: I'm not going to snap that cigarette part.

WiteBeam

2012-07-26, 11:41 AM

snap that I'm unable to delete my own posts. Clearing them up to avoid misconceptions on things that arent clarified. As now my rage has settled down. Cigarettes are a wonderful medicine.

Edit: I'm not going to snap that cigarette part.

Wouldn't you want to say Snip then?

Looking Foward to next week.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 11:41 AM

Going to leave this here.
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228309689522335744
Looks they want the priority key holders in within August.

edit: Twitter might be having technical problems right now.
Guy asks if he's going to have to wait a month or two to get into Beta with his priority key. Smed says no.

achayethenoo

2012-07-26, 11:52 AM

They have never said what keys will be in what invite phase. That's a forum creation.

Every current sub, every mag key, could all go in on the first wave. WE DON'T KNOW.

It also will not matter, beta will be flooded with people, with any key, then the game is free to play. Who cares about a few weeks?

sorry but they did say what the first wave would be and it was vets subs and pcg would have top priority and be the first ones into the beta go and check twitter u might want to go back a month or 2 but it clearly states it by smedley and higby

HEISTT

2012-07-26, 12:00 PM

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 12:00 PM

Ah well, I guess I'll have to move my expectations of getting into the beta by another 1 or 2 weeks. I hope PC Gamer keys do get prioritised over the people who got their key through twitter and such.

Nope.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

Edit: Twitter's still down, here's the direct text.
active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

But Smed's sounding like they're going to ramp up invites very fast.

soulsurfsublime

2012-07-26, 12:08 PM

Simple solution, Wonder twins "activate sub"!!

Zulthus

2012-07-26, 12:08 PM

Seriously? Everyone who hasn't actually played PS1 and expects to be in first, really? We have waited for this game for so many years now. We had to wait forever, you guys can wait a month or two (and it most likely won't take nearly that long) so quit whining.

Purple

2012-07-26, 12:24 PM

i got a PC gamer key but i am not worried about being put into the same pool as everyone else with a twitter key. the invites will go out so fast that the diffrence will most likely be less then a week or two. i have been waiting months and can wait a little longer.

james

2012-07-26, 12:26 PM

Zulthus

2012-07-26, 12:30 PM

Now if they said pc gamers keys come before vets you would be pissed

Of course I would. I've spent upwards of $1k on this game, and it hasn't received any sort of development in years. Fortunately, that isn't the case.

james

2012-07-26, 12:32 PM

Of course I would. I've spent upwards of $1k on this game, and it hasn't received any sort of development in years. Fortunately, that isn't the case.

Just becuase you played ps1 doesn't mean you deserve to be in the sequal beta. You payed to play the game. BF2 vets didn't automaticly get in the bf3 beta or alpha

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 12:33 PM

Just becuase you played ps1 doesn't mean you deserve to be in the sequal beta. You payed to play the game. BF2 vets didn't automaticly get in the bf3 beta or alpha

And you paid for a copy of an excellent magazine. Good lord, this thread's getting ridiculous

Xeller

2012-07-26, 12:34 PM

And you paid for a copy of an excellent magazine. Good lord, this thread's getting ridiculous

It's better if you're reading and eating popcorn simultaneously.

james

2012-07-26, 12:36 PM

And you paid for a copy of an excellent magazine. Good lord, this thread's getting ridiculous
I love pc gamer but
I was promised priority access,and then was quoted by the executive producer saying they would be in the primary wave.
I couldn't care about waiting its the fact , SOE pretty much went out and lied. I wouldn't have had an issue if they were honest with us from the gecko, and told us vets get in first. But nope they said countless times pc gamer and vets get in the first wave. Then they drop o yea that key you got is pointless its no better than twitter or facebook.

duomaxwl

2012-07-26, 12:36 PM

It's better if you're reading and eating popcorn simultaneously.

Or Ben and Jerrys. But seriously, vets will get in first, nothing to worry about, when you get in, you get in.

soulsurfsublime

2012-07-26, 12:37 PM

If everyone could please take a deep breath, take a little step back, try to regain your composure, and save it for the battlefield (I mean testing)!

matthewpeters

2012-07-26, 12:39 PM

To be fair you guys would all be mad too, if you bought a crap magazine specifically to get the PS2 "priority" key, only to realize several months later you could've saved $5 and spammed twitter.

I did buy a crap magazine with only one story I was interested to get a key.
Then I got a key for killing Hamma when Brewko turned him into BlackOps during Planetside Day weekend.
Then I got a bunch of keys at SOE community day.

I'm supposed to be mad that the keys have been diluted by Devs giving them out on twitter? No thanks.

They keys have always been described as getting you in among the first, not first. If that's not a weasel word to allow for SOE flexibility I don't know what is.

Look at the positive side: there are plenty of people worrying about not being able to get a key on twitter, 5 Bucks just saved you from that hassle.

Also in the grand scheme of PS2 waiting, which has been going on for years, we are all really close. (to avoid using the s-word.)

drennam

2012-07-26, 12:46 PM

I love pc gamer but
I was promised priority access,and then was quoted by the executive producer saying they would be in the primary wave.
I couldn't care about waiting its the fact , SOE pretty much went out and lied. I wouldn't have had an issue if they were honest with us from the gecko, and told us vets get in first. But nope they said countless times pc gamer and vets get in the first wave. Then they drop o yea that key you got is pointless its no better than twitter or facebook.

you were not promised priority access. you bought :doh:a priority access key for a couple bucks thinking you could get 1st dibs on beta

planetside players who have put an upwards of 9 years of income and community into the franchise were promised priority access before anyone with a key

to sum it up, you still have a key that will get you in before any other kind of key, aka; a priority access key

HEISTT

2012-07-26, 12:48 PM

Nope.

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228236911477653504

Edit: Twitter's still down, here's the direct text.

But Smed's sounding like they're going to ramp up invites very fast.

Ah... Ok I guess I will move my expectations up by only 1 week then I guess.. :p
6th of August or I will start executing kittens each day that passes by without access... (like some other guy threatened with on this forum:love:)

james

2012-07-26, 12:49 PM

Steambot

2012-07-26, 12:50 PM

I've been subscribed to PC Gamer for a couple of years now, and I got my beta key from that magazine.

However, while I would have liked to be among the first to get in, I understand that the serious PS1 vets should have priority over me.

EDIT: @james: Things change, don't get your panties in a twist.

Crator

2012-07-26, 12:52 PM

Just becuase you played ps1 doesn't mean you deserve to be in the sequal beta. You payed to play the game. BF2 vets didn't automaticly get in the bf3 beta or alpha

Actually, you are correct. But, PS1 vets aren't getting 1st wave priority access just because we played PS1. We are getting 1st wave priority access because SOE said they will give that to us.

Charred

2012-07-26, 12:52 PM

matthewpeters

2012-07-26, 12:52 PM

The age old vet argument in case you were to stupid to read my argument i stated how they devs out right said that pc gamer keys would be in the primary wave with vets.

Source?

soulsurfsublime

2012-07-26, 12:52 PM

I want to say that I agree that vets getting in first is cool. But I also want to say that I think SOE has done a pretty poor job on the whole beta thing. I have been in quite a few beta's in my time (36 years old) and this one to me may be the most cluster f***ed one I can remember taking part in. (But then again maybe this beta just seems more important than the others to me)

It almost seems like they are all new to doing a closed beta and making it up as they go along. That being said I feel that once everyone gets in the game this issue will be a mere faded memory. Remember, time heals all.

Xeller

2012-07-26, 12:52 PM

The moral of the story:

SOE made ambiguous statements that were interpreted many different ways by many different people.

Nothing we can do about it, let's move on with our lives.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 12:55 PM

you were not promised priority access. you bought :doh:a priority access key for a couple bucks thinking you could get 1st dibs on beta

planetside players who have put an upwards of 9 years of income and community into the franchise were promised priority access before anyone with a key

to sum it up, you still have a key that will get you in before any other kind of key, aka; a priority access key

Still. Take a look at this:

"This issue of PC Gamer Magazine features new interviews with our San Diego development team, game info and artwork from the PlanetSide 2 universe as well as an exclusive priority access Beta code for its readers. "

EXCLUSIVE PRIORITY ACCESS BETA CODE
Source: http://www.planetside2.com/news/pcgamercover

Now, if someone picks up a twitter key 1 minute from now, and activates it, he's in the same priority as I am.

Now, hows that?

Charred

2012-07-26, 12:56 PM

The moral of the story:

SOE made ambiguous statements that were interpreted many different ways by many different people.

Nothing we can do about it, let's move on with our lives.

How the fuck do you call this ambiguous? https://twitter.com/planetside2/statuses/223828399989334018

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 12:56 PM

Yeah, it wasn't so exclusive....
Unless they meant exclusive among the other magazines. They do THAT a lot.

Twitter's finally back up so posting this again.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228309689522335744

Just realized as only a priority key holder, I'm going to have wait a month or two longer to see Beta. Oh well.

No you aren't.

Crator

2012-07-26, 12:57 PM

Still. Take a look at this:

"This issue of PC Gamer Magazine features new interviews with our San Diego development team, game info and artwork from the PlanetSide 2 universe as well as an exclusive priority access Beta code for its readers. "

EXCLUSIVE PRIORITY ACCESS BETA CODE
Source: http://www.planetside2.com/news/pcgamercover

Now, if someone picks up a twitter key 1 minute from now, and activates it, he's in the same priority as I am.

Now, hows that?

So what's the difference though? Does the twitter keys not have the same exclusive priority access beta code? Why can't both be the same?

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 12:58 PM

So what's the difference though? Does the twitter keys not have the same exclusive priority access beta code? Why can't both be the same?

How is that exclusive, when they can be gotten from anywhere?

Common sense doesn't apply here.

Crator

2012-07-26, 12:59 PM

How is that exclusive, when they can be gotten from anywhere?

Common sense doesn't apply here.

Gotten anywhere eh? So I can buy any game mag (that isn't the PCGamer mag) and get the key?

Xeller

2012-07-26, 12:59 PM

How the fuck do you call this ambiguous? https://twitter.com/planetside2/statuses/223828399989334018

First, calm down. It's a game.

Twitter is down, so I don't know what tweet you are referencing but a lot of the early tweets regarding the PCGamer keys were ambiguous in the sense that they kept saying they would be in the "primary wave". "Primary wave" can be interpreted differently. Does the primary wave include vets or new players? Does it include twitter/e3 keys?

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-26, 01:01 PM

Still. Take a look at this:

"This issue of PC Gamer Magazine features new interviews with our San Diego development team, game info and artwork from the PlanetSide 2 universe as well as an exclusive priority access Beta code for its readers. "

EXCLUSIVE PRIORITY ACCESS BETA CODE
Source: http://www.planetside2.com/news/pcgamercover

Now, if someone picks up a twitter key 1 minute from now, and activates it, he's in the same priority as I am.

Now, hows that?

He will have still put in just as much effort as someone who dropped 3 bucks at a corner store.

Its a fucking beta, kids, you didn't sit in a labor camp for ten years, you bought magazines with a promo. These threads need to stop. Every time one dies, some idiot decides "OMGZ WHY ARENT PEEPLE TALKIN ABOUT tHIS?!?".

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 01:03 PM

First, calm down. It's a game.

Twitter is down, so I don't know what tweet you are referencing but a lot of the early tweets regarding the PCGamer keys were ambiguous in the sense that they kept saying they would be in the "primary wave". "Primary wave" can be interpreted differently. Does the primary wave include vets or new players? Does it include twitter/e3 keys?

The tweets back up. It's not ambiguous. Unfortunately as time has shown, the @planetside2 twitter was easily the worst place for info.

soulsurfsublime

2012-07-26, 01:03 PM

Ok so my nephew just stopped in and I tried to explain to him what was going on in this post and it easily came to this at the end of a 10 minute SOE story.

It quite easily translated into SOE told everyone that they were special and unique and today a lot of people found out that they were not so special.

Charred

2012-07-26, 01:04 PM

....

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 01:04 PM

It quite easily translated into SOE told everyone that they were special and unique and today a lot of people found out that they were not so special.

:lol::lol::lol:

Charred

2012-07-26, 01:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/3Ysbv.jpg

Everyone arguing FOR SOE on this one please take a look at this picture and tell me how a representative of their company is allowed to say this and then suddenly they do a total 180 and give PC-gamer keys the fucking finger?

And don't you dare say "People can make mistakes, it happens". When a company make people spend money on something, directly and indirectly, they can't just tell them to fuck off later, it doesn't work like that. It's unacceptable.

matthewpeters

2012-07-26, 01:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/3Ysbv.jpg

Is this actually refuted somewhere or are people just upset that this has not been said again in the past 24 hours?

Xeller

2012-07-26, 01:07 PM

Okay, SOE screwed up. That does not change the fact that none of us can do anything about it. Complaining on a fan run Planetside forum is good for nothing but venting.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 01:08 PM

http://i.imgur.com/3Ysbv.jpg

Is this actually refuted somewhere or are people just upset that is has not been said again in the past 24 hours?

Check Hamma's main sticky. It's all there.

Actually here: https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228234185800826880

matthewpeters

2012-07-26, 01:14 PM

Check Hamma's main sticky. It's all there.

Actually here: https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228234185800826880

Word, thanks. Perhaps @Planetside2 thought he meant the person was a a veteren and had a PC Gamer key. Perhaps he just screwed up. It really shouldn't matter since everyone who bought a PC Gamer mag did so long before that tweet was made.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 01:40 PM

So yeah, currently it seems that all the arguments are simply because there are mixed messages from SOE.

Crator

2012-07-26, 01:47 PM

So yeah, currently it seems that all the arguments are simply because there are mixed and misinterpreted messages from SOE.

Fixed that for ya. ;) Trying to communicate to the masses via Twitter from multiple people at a company is not the best way to go about giving official statements on things.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 01:49 PM

Fixed that for ya. ;)

I'm seeing definite contradictions in some very flat easy to read statements, though they weren't as common as people thought. Most of SOE's comments were just downright ambiguous and confusing.

There were definite communication problems.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 01:51 PM

Fixed that for ya. ;) Trying to communicate to the masses via Twitter from multiple people at a company is not the best way to go about giving official statements on things.

So if one thing is said 10 days ago, and another thing is said few days ago, its misinterpretended by the community?

http://i.imgur.com/3Ysbv.jpg

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228234185800826880

There's some miscommunication going about. I hope they'll find an consensus of whats the real information and throw that out soonish.

gufftroad

2012-07-26, 02:01 PM

How is that exclusive, when they can be gotten from anywhere?

Common sense doesn't apply here.

ex·clu·sive [ik-skloo-siv, -ziv]
adjective
1.
a : excluding or having power to exclude
b : limiting or limited to possession, control, or use by a single individual or group
2
a : excluding others from participation
b : snobbishly aloof
3
a : accepting or soliciting only a socially restricted patronage (as of the upper class)
b : stylish, fashionable
c : restricted in distribution, use, or appeal because of expense
4
a : single, sole <exclusive jurisdiction>

its exclusive because it excludes those who signed up but have not key

its also exclusive because you and i payed for it and are in the exclusive group that payed for a key

So if one thing is said 10 days ago, and another thing is said few days ago, its misinterpretended by the community?

http://i.imgur.com/3Ysbv.jpg

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/228234185800826880

There's some miscommunication going about. I hope they'll find an consensus of whats the real information and throw that out soonish.

in the first one he could well have been referring to the vets and not the pcgamer key since he did not specify

james

2012-07-26, 02:12 PM

I wouldn't even be angry unless they hadn't said shit like this:

https://twitter.com/planetside2/statuses/223828399989334018

Now please tell me why I shouldn't be feeling deceived by SOE when they STATED that PC-gamer keys have HIGHER priority than twitter/facebook/normal sign-ups.

Please, tell me.

There is the major problem, they need to stick with 1 story not 6. If they aren't able to keep there stance straight on twitter, i pray to god they are much better as devs and can patch a game.

If anyone is from SOE reading this. Can we get an official statement, spelling everything out to the T

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 02:19 PM

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:22 PM

They could solve this fuckup by just giving everyone the same priority now and just do a lottery.... everything else will end badly because they promised so many partys now that they are "first" that they will always offend one of them.

That would still end badly because then the vets will be pissed off.

We all predicted this day would come. Let's just let it pass.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-26, 02:23 PM

Here's a novel idea that I'm sure will be terribly unpopular.

Why don't you damn people quit bitching, sit down, stfu, and wait until your goddamn number is called.

See? Simple.

Seriously, all this arguing is pointless. If you have a key, you're getting in at some time guaranteed. So, quit being a fucking douche about things and complaining because you think category A may get in before category B. It's a video game, people.

And no, I don't care if you were given a key, played for twenty five years, or paid for a magazine. Chill out!

Note: This is all coming from somebody who is at the tale end of the beta que. As a matter of fact, I had access to beta keys a while back, and didn't really jump at it, because I didn't care. Somebody sent me one in a PM, so I figured, eh, what the hell.

It is not that big a deal, folks. It's certainly not worth all the butthurt around here.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:23 PM

They could solve this fuckup by just giving everyone the same priority now and just do a lottery.... everything else will end badly because they promised so many partys now that they are "first" that they will always offend one of them.

It won't "End badly", the game will be released. It's also not a fuck up.

It does not matter. People are just confused.

Its really simple: active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

/thread

VOWS Flawless

2012-07-26, 02:23 PM

james

2012-07-26, 02:25 PM

They could solve this fuckup by just giving everyone the same priority now and just do a lottery.... everything else will end badly because they promised so many partys now that they are "first" that they will always offend one of them.

Just throw vets and pc gamer keys in the same pool, like they originally said. It just that easy.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:25 PM

What a waste of 8 bucks to go grab a pc gamer at a store out of my way that I didn't even read just to get snubbed out of priority access. I'll just hold off on buying station cash for a while. At this rate I might get in only a couple of days before open beta.

Did the magazine magically decon when you entered the key to your account?

Just throw vets and pc gamer keys in the same pool, like they originally said. It just that easy.

They have ALWAYS SAID current subs get first. Always, Day one.

Stop blaming SOE for your confusion.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:26 PM

Crator

2012-07-26, 02:30 PM

This thread should be closed now... I predicting at page 20 or so perhaps? But could be done now! ;)

james

2012-07-26, 02:30 PM

Did the magazine magically decon when you entered the key to your account?

They have ALWAYS SAID current subs get first. Always, Day one.

Stop blaming SOE for your confusion.
Then explain this damn qoute from the excetive producer to me

Here’s exactly what he says: “External Beta will include primary rounds of entry for existing PlanetSide 1 players and additional External Beta registrants, including those who obtained Beta codes from the PC Gamer magazine cover feature.”

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:31 PM

This thread =

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1253612165_cat_running_around.gif

Then explain this damn qoute from the excetive producer to me

Here’s exactly what he says: “External Beta will include primary rounds of entry for existing PlanetSide 1 players and additional External Beta registrants, including those who obtained Beta codes from the PC Gamer magazine cover feature.”

Whats confusing about it?

james

2012-07-26, 02:33 PM

This thread =

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1253612165_cat_running_around.gif

Whats confusing about it?

Primary waves means first

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:33 PM

Then explain this damn qoute from the excetive producer to me

Here’s exactly what he says: “External Beta will include primary rounds of entry for existing PlanetSide 1 players and additional External Beta registrants, including those who obtained Beta codes from the PC Gamer magazine cover feature.”

Primary RoundS

If Beta is 6 months long, and you're in by the first few weeks, you're in the primary rounds.

If you wanted to, you could be complain about being the 20th person invited, since you weren't in the primary(first) invites. Ends up "primary" is a relative term.

Sturmhardt

2012-07-26, 02:34 PM

It won't "End badly", the game will be released. It's also not a fuck up.

It does not matter. People are just confused.

Its really simple: active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

/thread

you dont understand anything. The problem is that they promised things that are now the other way around... but go forth with your selfrighteousness, you are waay smarter than everyone else... yeah.

haticK

2012-07-26, 02:34 PM

Maybe they changed their mind. That's exactly the reason most devs won't say anything to begin with, because if it doesn't work out this forum thread happens.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:34 PM

Primary waves means first

Lol. it said primary rounds, plural.

In linguistics, plurality or [a] plural is a concept of quantity (i.e., grammatical number) representing a value of ''other-than-one".

Crator

2012-07-26, 02:35 PM

Primary waves means first

Wave(s), plural, meaning MANY WAVES!!! Now we have a definition of who is in each wave! GET IT? GET IT? GOOD!

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-26, 02:35 PM

@Bloodworth

Actually, it makes me think this more. Substitute the thread topic for the one in this video, and you'll see where I'm going. Goodbye, Higby! I'm sorry, but these unruly idgits just won't drop it :(

South Park - Bill Gates - YouTube

james

2012-07-26, 02:35 PM

Lol. it said primary rounds, plural.

being third and with the twitter and facebook whores is not primary nor priority nor vip as they stated.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:36 PM

you dont understand anything. The problem is that they promised things that are now the other way around... but go forth with your selfrighteousness...

No, you are confused, like James here.

Arovien

2012-07-26, 02:36 PM

People be always trippin.

No matter how they do the closed beta phases, not all will be happy. I'm just glad the damn beta is less than a week away.

james

2012-07-26, 02:37 PM

No, you are confused, like James here.

I'm not confused at all, i just think its bs to go advetise these keys when they aren't what they are.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:37 PM

being third and with the twitter and facebook whores is not primary nor priority nor vip as they stated.

You have no idea how many rounds there will be, all current PS player, all vets and all pc gamer keys could be in by round 5.

None of us know how many rounds there are, how long they will be, or how many they will add.

ArmedZealot

2012-07-26, 02:37 PM

Wow, you people crazy. If it matters that much to you to get in first then just resub.

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:38 PM

I'm not confused at all, i just think its bs to go advetise these keys when they aren't what they are.

They are what they are.

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 02:38 PM

Some people here are suffering from some aspergers throwing around dictionary definitions.

They have ALWAYS SAID current subs get first. Always, Day one.

Stop blaming SOE for your confusion.

NOPE. They said "veterans" get in first, followed by those who possess the exclusive priority beta codes that come with PCgamer, which turned out to be every single beta key out there.

Anyways, they did not mention "current subscribers get in first". That'd be like saying "pay for PS1 to get in first". They clearly mentioned "veterans" how someone who has had PS1 activated for 2 months with less than 10 hours played is a veteran?

james

2012-07-26, 02:39 PM

You have no idea how many rounds there will be, all current PS player, all vets and all pc gamer keys could be in by round 5.

None of us know how many rounds there are, how long they will be, or how many they will add.

Then there devs need to stop making statemenst that imply pc gamer go in the same time as vets

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-26, 02:39 PM

@james

Dude, I just regret that whiney, ill-mannered douchebags like you are going to be in the game with me. Listen to yourself, seriously.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:39 PM

being third and with the twitter and facebook whores is not primary nor priority nor vip as they stated.

How are you third? You're second after vets. You only think you're third, because vets are splitting into two groups. They could even tier the vets up by join date by month and then you could complain you are 120th in line?

james

2012-07-26, 02:40 PM

@james

Dude, I just regret that whiney, ill-mannered douchebags like you are going to be in the game with me. Listen to yourself, seriously.

Just stfu, all the vets were being whiney douchebags when they didn't get in the tech test.

I promise there would be the biggest whine fest if vets didn't get in first to.

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-07-26, 02:41 PM

@James

I agree. I just think being a whiney douchebag is a bad thing, regardless of circumstances. "They did it, too!" Isn't much of a defense.

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:41 PM

Just stfu, all the vets were being whiney douchebags when they didn't get in the tech test

Its true. Everyone's behavior here as been unacceptable. But why do it too?

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 02:41 PM

How are you third? You're second after vets. You only think you're third, because vets are splitting into two groups. They could even tier the vets up by join date by month and then you could complain you are 120th in line?

Actually, that'd be a good idea for the beta keys selection. First come first serve, so those who entered the beta key sooner than the others get in first. Of course, this will exclude the veterans, as they are already in when this happens.

ArmedZealot

2012-07-26, 02:41 PM

Just stfu, all the vets were being whiney douchebags when they didn't get in the tech test

Vet here. Not a peep from me. Why the hell would I want to hit f5 all day for a broken build of the game?

MrBloodworth

2012-07-26, 02:42 PM

Novice bot. You are wrong. When PS was announced they said current and veterans users get priority.

It also DOES NOT MATTER.

Purple

2012-07-26, 02:42 PM

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 02:43 PM

isent it possible that they cannot tell the keys apart in their system?

By all means, why do not they say so? If that is the case, they need to make them first come - first serve. So E3 & PCgamer keys get first, not to mention its only natural when one would sign up with a priority key, they'd be ahead of those who entered the key 1 day before beta invites.

james

2012-07-26, 02:44 PM

By all means, why do not they say so? If that is the case, they need to make them first come - first serve. So E3 & PCgamer keys get first, not to mention its only natural when one would sign up with a priority key, they'd be ahead of those who entered the key 1 day before beta invites.

Since they gave pc gamer all the keys they should have no issue telling them apart

Novice bot

2012-07-26, 02:46 PM

If that is the case, they need to make them first come - first serve. So E3 & PCgamer keys get first, not to mention its only natural when one would sign up with a priority key, they'd be ahead of those who entered the key 1 day before beta invites.

Actually, can someone propose this to devs on twitter? That the beta key waves would be first come - first serve. This way those who signed up from E3, first beta key competitions and the magazine get in before those who begged themselves a key from twitter 2 days before the beta.

ArmedZealot

2012-07-26, 02:47 PM

Actually, can someone propose this to devs on twitter? That the beta key waves would be first come - first serve. This way those who signed up from E3, first beta key competitions and the magazine get in before those who begged themselves a key from twitter 2 days before the beta.

In that case all veterans should get first come first serve from their account creation date. /s

Sephirex

2012-07-26, 02:47 PM

Actually, can someone propose this to devs on twitter? That the beta key waves would be first come - first serve. This way those who signed up from E3, first beta key competitions and the magazine get in before those who begged themselves a key from twitter 2 days before the beta.

Seriously? They're not going to change it now and piss everyone off all over again. Especially since it sounds like they're going to get everyone in within the month.

james

2012-07-26, 02:48 PM

Seriously? They're not going to change it now and piss everyone off all over again. Especially since it sounds like they're going to get everyone in within the month.

Sure just like the beta was going to a couple weeks after E3

OnexBigxHebrew

2012-07-26, 02:48 PM