Camo

[Gugabalog]

Tbh, I only see camo being especially useful at night, say going with the purple of the vanu or buying a black as heck suit to not have a giant silhouette, but that of course means switching camo regularly depending on the continent based on the day/night cycle.

Cause who wants to wear black in a desert durign the daytime?

[AzureWatcher]

Switching camo isn't difficult. Takes like 7 or so mouse-clicks.

I'll have a jungle camo for Amerish and a snow camo for the ice planet (the name escapes me). I'll also probably fork over the money for purple digital "camo" since it's pretty. :3

Nights are supposedly going to be really dark so I doubt camouflage of any kind will make much of a difference.

[PhoenixDog]

I think it's more intended to be style instead of practicality. We can outfit our soldier to help make him/her look more in tune with how we view him/her. Obviously some may have some impact on the game in some way, especially at night. But mostly...No matter how much green camo is on my Magrider...A floating tank is still incredibly out of place in the forest.

[SFJake]

Here's to wishing I can turn all your camos off client side. Don't they dare say its not an advantage and its a bought one at that.

[AzureWatcher]

Here's to wishing I can turn all your camos off client side. Don't they dare say its not an advantage and its a bought one at that.

It's a bit of an advantage and it is bought. Which I suggest we derail this thread to discuss this because I haven't actually heard much discussion on this subject.

Will continent-specific camo be required for "optimal" loadouts?
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I also highly doubt you can turn off other people's camo. That would defeat the purpose of camo being there.

[Pyreal]

Here's to wishing I can turn all your camos off client side. Don't they dare say its not an advantage and its a bought one at that.

Negating the usefulness of a micro-transaction item is ... bad for business.

[SirDart]

I am hoping once you buy a camo, that camo is available for every class/weapon/vehicle and aircraft. I am not going to be happy if I need to buy for each and every tool I utilize.

[Reizod]

Here's to wishing I can turn all your camos off client side. Don't they dare say its not an advantage and its a bought one at that.

I'm really curious on why you think using camo is a advantage in this game?

[Harasus]

I'm really curious on why you think using camo is a advantage in this game?

Camo. You hide with it. Harder to spot. An advantage. Geddit? ;)

[PhoenixDog]

I'm really curious on why you think using camo is a advantage in this game?

Because he thinks you blending into the background with a camo you bought with real money is a disadvantage to him. When in turn you shooting him in the ass is just as much a disadvantage to him as the camo.

Just think...Infils have the best camo of all. They can disappear completely, and it's free of charge!

[Reizod]

Camo. You hide with it. Harder to spot. An advantage. Geddit? ;)

If you really think that camo in this game will hide you or make you harder to spot, then I have nothing else to say. :huh:

[Blackwolf]

Tbh, I only see camo being especially useful at night, say going with the purple of the vanu or buying a black as heck suit to not have a giant silhouette, but that of course means switching camo regularly depending on the continent based on the day/night cycle.

Cause who wants to wear black in a desert durign the daytime?

Actually VS purple would probably serve better camo at night then black.

The point of camo is to break up your silhoutte and the night scene is largely dark blue. Colors like deep blue and deep purple will break up better then black which will stand out like a sore thumb in most environments.

And I think the camo will go a very long way towards giving you better cover and actually making it tougher to be seen.

[Gugabalog]

Yea. I was thinking the purple would be good for night ops if it can not be so danmg SHINY!

[QuantumMechanic]

I don't understand the attraction of digital camo. I always thought it only looked useful if your theater of operations was the original Nintendo Entertainment System.

Anyway, it's heyday is done. The US Army has dumped it.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/the-u-s-army-5b-pixel-pattern-is-a-fail/

[AzureWatcher]

I don't understand the attraction of digital camo. I always thought it only looked useful if your theater of operations was the original Nintendo Entertainment System.

Anyway, it's heyday is done. The US Army has dumped it.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/the-u-s-army-5b-pixel-pattern-is-a-fail/

It's not about usefulness. It's all about the style. ;)

http://a.yfrog.com/img875/221/1l0nw.jpg

[SteinB]

If you really think that camo in this game will hide you or make you harder to spot, then I have nothing else to say. :huh:

Until you have been in the game, don't discount the difficulty in seeing and recognizing enemies at a distance whether its day or night. The detail in the terrain is so far beyond PS1 and the TTKs so much faster that getting the jump on someone is the determining factor in most encounters.

[Novice bot]

I don't understand the attraction of digital camo. I always thought it only looked useful if your theater of operations was the original Nintendo Entertainment System.

Anyway, it's heyday is done. The US Army has dumped it.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/the-u-s-army-5b-pixel-pattern-is-a-fail/

Then there's this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M05 . Seriously, back in the military I used to sit on the slat to take a dumb, and once I'm at it. The "virtual enemy", an reconnaissance unit whispered "Hows it going" Of course it scares the hell out of me and I look at the direction of the voice, and he was 1 meter away from me, proned all along. That's how I "died."

[Mythoclast]

Negating the usefulness of a micro-transaction item is ... bad for business.

It's not SUPPOSED to be useful, it is supposed to just look cool.

[RSphil]

from the pics i have seen the desert camo is really good in the desert. at a distance you will blend in very well which is what they are for. id say they will work well.

[RSphil]

I don't understand the attraction of digital camo. I always thought it only looked useful if your theater of operations was the original Nintendo Entertainment System.

Anyway, it's heyday is done. The US Army has dumped it.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/the-u-s-army-5b-pixel-pattern-is-a-fail/

it works great here

love that photo lol

[SirDart]

With the fact that there are still the faction colors on each player or vehicle, it won't hide the player completely, but it may do the following to apply camo:
1. You misinterpret where the head/torso of the body is, thus missing or not getting a good hit.
2. You misinterpret the number of players of an entire squad that are far away against the camo's similar background.
3. You have a harder time distinguishing what type of vehicle it is, i.e. vanguard vs. lightning.
4. Your quick scan loses sight of the player after he moved from where you were expecting, or may require more concentration to track movement, thus losing other visual cues to what is going on in periphery.

It can be advantageous, but we will have to wait and see. I am still not sure what class I am going to play primarily, I am going to have to try them all.

I may just decide that as part of an outfit, to have a particular camo to identify the whole outfit with, as ridiculous a camo it may be, who knows?

[Reizod]

Until you have been in the game, don't discount the difficulty in seeing and recognizing enemies at a distance whether its day or night. The detail in the terrain is so far beyond PS1 and the TTKs so much faster that getting the jump on someone is the determining factor in most encounters.

What makes you think I'm not speaking from experience?:groovy:

Anywho, camo is more for the "cool" factor rather than it being something actually effective in THIS game.

[Lumberchuk]

Isn't there outfit camo? Or did I just misinterpret that? I thought you could get an outfit leader to get an outfit camo that will affect the whole outfit.

Besides the only advantage you get is if you are standing still for some reason. The actual advantage you get in a game where the press of a button lights people up with a big marker on there head is tiny at best. Its in there mostly for character customization, and maybe you can use it to hide behind a rock a little better but this isn't a ghillies suit.

I mean come game time we will see but since this isn't your normal "gritty shooter" and everything including the buildings is pretty colourful I don't think it will be incredibly effective.

[derito]

Isn't there outfit camo? Or did I just misinterpret that? I thought you could get an outfit leader to get an outfit camo that will affect the whole outfit.


If your talking about what they said at E3 I believe they only said that a group of players could choose to use the same camo (i.e. each member buys it).

[Gonefshn]

Everything is the same color in most other shooters and it's still easy to see people.

Camo will not help make you harder to spot.

[avpmaster]

If you really think that camo in this game will hide you or make you harder to spot, then I have nothing else to say. :huh:

Camo probably won't be so affective that you won't be spotted from a long distance, however, if you are in a group, and some members on uncamo'd, they will most likely be shot first, since they stand out.

[Comet]

Camo = custom appearance so you can look the way you want. It's not about an advantage.

I am looking forward to kitting up with an outfit and all of us rockin' the same camo.

[soulsurfsublime]

Yeah BF3 there is all kinds of camo and the modeling is amazing and it doesn't make any difference. For a long while I used the all black gear on my soldiers just cause I like the way it looked. Jungle=black spec ops gear Desert=Black spec ops gear Urban=black spec ops gear and so on.

Some one else said if you are sitting still it could help you and I figure that's true. But there is no prone and I imagine the pace of the game will be medium to fast. Camo is more style than advantage.

[Gugabalog]

You guys can't be serious about comparing BF or CoD camo to any other games? They purposefully ruined its usefulness.

I think this is more akin to Arma (where camo absolutely works) with a dash of BF and Unreal (Fun, but unfortunate).

[Rivenshield]

To hell with camouflage. The whole idea of hiding from your enemy is a cowardly separatist plot. I'm going to be that solid cherry red guy with black highlights and the old-school rexo helmet and CR5 backpack I bought at the Station Shop.:D

[Gugabalog]

I will highly enjoy watching your eyes glow as I melt your brain.