Will Planetside 2 Avoid Mass Negativity?

[PoisonTaco]

Having been part of successful servers in Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty and Battlefield over the last few years in my own community, there is one problem that always creeps up when you get pubbies in the servers. That is the chat box becomes a mess of people complaining about everything.

"So and so killed me with x gun he's a hacking"
"Anyone who uses y gun is a ******"
"x gun is so OP!"
"y can't I kill tank with pistol? That's BS!"

Or how about those people who talk as if they're the BEST PLAYER EVAR and then when they die once, they rage in chat call everyone hacking/exploiting noobs.

The problem with this behavior is that so much negativity can create a hostile and negative experience for everyone in your server. If you allow a few people to constantly complain in chat, even more people will. As admins we would typically ban people from the server if all they did was complain. This can also lead to people in the community moving on to other games as they don't want to listen to constant complaining and bitching. This is one of the biggest contributors to Battlefield 3 dying in my own community among other things.

So will Planetside 2 follow in that trend. I've only been playing the original Planetside for a few days now and for the most part that community is pretty good. Still it's a small community, and PS2 is likely going to get the masses from other shooters to come and at least check it out. Will the game just devolve into people endlessly complaining and bitching about everything that kills them? Will faction pride be something that gets people in line? Or is this something that we, as a community will have to keep a check on.

[dafuq]

if you really think ps2 will not have a shitty community u are living under a rock
and f2p will make this game even worse community wise

ur name is known because youre calling everyone ****** or other stuff? -> make a new account
admins banned u because of aimbotting? -> make a new account

[gufftroad]

there will always be negativity no matter how balanced guns are

because ITS IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS BETTER THEN MEEEEE!!!!!! I AM 1337 PLAYER MLG ETC ETC

[PredatorFour]

In short i think people will bitch and moan alot. The game is f2p, which will bring alot of these people in. I think if it were sub based it might be better tbh.

[Zulthus]

I know the PS1 community has quite a few bad eggs, but I have never seen so much "OMGZ ur a H4x0r!!!" or "fkn n00b you suk dik" and "LOLZ 1 am sooo 1337" in chat anywhere but Battlefield or COD. And NO, I'm not saying everyone coming from BF is a little annoying kid. The F2P model especially will not help this.


What I'm saying is, get used to it.

[SpcFarlen]

Its a game, its going to happen. You dont want to just start booting people for saying a sentence. That causes negative views more so than someone complaining in chat.

Most serious players probably wont even be looking in global chat just because it will be full of spam regardless. Just ignore them. If people leave because they dont have the capacity to ignore individuals then they would probably leave for other reasons because its not that hard of a skill to master.

Get in an outfit, get into a voip channel/server and ignore the text.

[PoisonTaco]

I know the PS1 community has quite a few bad eggs, but I have never seen so much "OMGZ ur a H4x0r!!!" or "fkn n00b you suk dik" and "LOLZ 1 am sooo 1337" in chat anywhere but Battlefield or COD. And NO, I'm not saying everyone coming from BF is a little annoying kid.


What I'm saying is, get used to it.

Oh I'm used to it, I'm just curious if we'll actually be able to get past it with the whole faction loyalty thing.

[Steambot]

if you really think ps2 will not have a shitty community u are living under a rock
and f2p will make this game even worse community wise

ur name is known because youre calling everyone ****** or other stuff? -> make a new account
admins banned u because of aimbotting? -> make a new account

And you are such a shining example of good will and helpfulness, are you?

To the OP: It'll have its bad community and its good one. One can't really predict which side will outnumber the other.

[Boomhowser]

PS1 you could kill and loot the enemy for the weapon thierfore no need to complain about other factions weapons..

PS2 no longer able to loot enemy faction weapons so I guess we'll just have to wait till beta to get a feel for how wether weapons OP or not and even then you'll have to check your opponents weapon in detail to see if its the sidegrades that are making a weapon op not just the basic weapon!

as for complaining.. well it happens in every game.. you just need to shut out the whiners

[ChipMHazard]

With popularity comes negativity:D

[Mepper]

You should be able to mute players clientside. That would solve this :)

[dafuq]

And you are such a shining example of good will and helpfulness, are you?

To the OP: It'll have its bad community and its good one. One can't really predict which side will outnumber the other.


i dont care since i have my people who i play with, i dont give a damn about the community, the elitism of THIS forum is really bad :D im laughing everyday when someone like you is acting serious


it will be like in any other game

want to have fun without flaming idiots? join a guild/outfit/whatever
want to get flamed on a steady base? play with randoms

[Reizod]

Get in an outfit, get into a voip channel/server and ignore the text.

Great point... that's exactly what I plan to do, and I recommend any newcomers to do the same. Let all the dumb asses fight it out in global chat among themselves. While everyone else that is sane and mature, get shit done with their outfit on TS or VOIP.

I will just IGNORE the global chat. When I'm ready to read about players complaining and mumbo jumbo, I'll come to the forums for that. :p

[Eyeklops]

A non-CR5 soldier could at max, do a SOI wide broadcast. This dramatically limited size of the audience for such needless whining.

[PoisonTaco]

Do we know if they're gonna limit global chat to commanders?

[maddoggg]

"Omg lame halo clone"

"I have run around for 5 seconds and didnt see no enemies,**** broken game"

"This game is for p*ssies who use vehicles and team work and dont fight like real man"

"Wtf i cant one shot with pistol and guns have recoil!What a n00b game!"

"f*ken lagging game,i sneak behind a tank and shoot all of my assault rifle bullets in it and it doesnt blow up,turns around and kills me.
The game is g*y."

"
This game is full of geeks who think they know sh*t.
This commander guy says "hey squad up and please come over here to help us capture this point"
and i am like "f*ck you man i dont need you n00bs,you would only slow me down and who put you in charge anyway!"
and so i spawn in the base and get the drop on 3 n00bs with their names writen in blue over their heads,and i kill them because they are so bad,that when i start shooting them,they are like" wtf you doing!",but than the stupid n00bs got jelaous of my skill and kicked me for TK.
"



You cant possibly make a popular game and not recieve some hate for it.
With the f2p model, shiny grapchics and almost COD like TTK,the game would most certainly have a decent amount of complete and utter n00bs runing around.
However i do hope it wont end like bf3,simply because the game is not a simplistic shooter with maps like bf3 operation metro and modes like team deathmatch.
Ps2 is generally designed to be a team based and logistic game where thinking matters,and thinking is something the average 14 year old bf3/cod player is uncapable of.
I hope they ll quickly get bored of the game and wont ruin the expirience for the rest of us.

[Zetsubo]

In short: no.

It pretty much is unavoidable, as a single person within 1000+ players can ruin global chat. i think there will be too much going on in the game itself to pay much attention to global chat. I watched all of TotalBiscuit's PS2 footage, which was 4+ hours, and I can't even remember if chat was enabled in Alpha/E3 build or even where it was situated on the screen. Just never even glanced at it, too much cool stuff going on in the game itself.

[Rivenshield]

Yet another reason they need to charge for the client.

Does *anyone* seriously having any problem paying the same amount of money they would for any other FPS, when they get to pay on Sony's servers against thousands of other combatants instead on somebody's crappy box in somebody's college dorm...?

[Gonefshn]

With so many players I wonder if global chat should be available at all.

[leecH]

no.

todays gamers blame the game as soon as they hit the smallest obstacle. instead of overcoming those obstacles they go to forums and collectivly cry about "broken game design" and pollute every community they find with fucking essays about how smart they are and how stupid the game is which they play 10 hours per day. and then you read that stuff because you think this maybe interesting but after the first paragraph you realize it probably is a 15 year old whos greates achievement in life is not to jerk off into their socks and then you realize that somewhere at SOE there is a sad sad human being who has to read all said shit while every sane person is just playing the fucking game in the meantime.

thats why my eyes always twitch when i hear game devs say they want to work together with the community because i have yet to witness something besides horseshit comming out of this collaboration.

ugh.. must be the heat.

[Steambot]

i dont care since i have my people who i play with, i dont give a damn about the community, the elitism of THIS forum is really bad :D im laughing everyday when someone like you is acting serious


it will be like in any other game

want to have fun without flaming idiots? join a guild/outfit/whatever
want to get flamed on a steady base? play with randoms

Someone like me? Not sure I understand. If you don't give a damn about the community, why are you posting on this forum?

Also, is it wrong to be serious? I don't have to "act."

Besides, I play solo.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Hah! Wishful thinking, indeed.

[Carnage]

I deal with it as I always deal with these issues, I turn off the chat and only use team/squad related communication, if any chat at all...

[Sephirex]

I haven't seen any real drama in Tribes Ascend. That gives me hope for Planetside 2.

[Gonefshn]

I always ignore that stuff it never bothers me because I don't even pay attention. I'll be too busy enjoying myself in game to bother looking at the official forums or the general chat.

[Mythoclast]

Every sizable online game especially F2P ones will have an awful amount of jack-assery. As I was told when I joined these boards. Strap in. Brace yourself.

[Sledgecrushr]

I am going to fight when and where the outfit deems necessary. I really hope I can turn off general chat.

[Shogun]

in ps1 i saw very little of this negativity in the chatbox.
at least compared to other games.

i think the whole "i am the best and you killed me because you suck and cheat" thing is no real problem because every faction has its own chat. in other games you have a global for everyone. in planetside you just talk to your own faction! if you want to rant about some enemy, you gonna need to send a tell.

this reduces the noob whining a lot! because annoying the own team is never a good idea. annoying the enemy is where the "fun" comes from, and this isn´t as convenient in ps as it is in tf2 or other arenagames!

[Comet]

/ignore

[soulsurfsublime]

Yeah ignore, use VOIP, join a squad, outfit etc. Hopefully they can keep the game free from major exploits etc that will only add fuel to the negativity fire.

[TheRagingGerbil]

That is what /mute and /ignore commands are for. :)

[Exmortius]

if they take their time and do this game right it will avoid a lot of unneeded negativity. basically not release this game in the state bf3 was when it first launched. that game should have stayed in beta for about 6 more months imo.

[Raymac]

The one main difference that Planetside has over those arena shooters is that it is an MMO. This basically means in a game like COD, if you type something, everyone can see it. It's an instant microphone to everyone. This isn't possible, at least right away, in Planetside. Sure you could type something to complain over local or broadcast, but that is still limited. As for Global chat, the CSR's did a good job of policing that.

Will people complain? Absolutely. Forumside is still alive and well. However, I think Planetside has more tools at your disposal to avoid those kinds of people if you want to, so it will be much much better than the other game examples the OP listed.

[AzureWatcher]

That is what /mute and /ignore commands are for. :)

/thread

[Quantum Spices]

A fun way that i've found out to deal with those whiny players, is to help them. Not to help them continue whining, but to help them become a better player.

"OMG ANYOONE WHO PLAYS MAX ARE NUUBS LEARN TO PLAY THE GAEM"
In this case, instead of shunning them from the game and it's community, help them learn how to deal with maxes, or whatever they don't like. maybe suggest playing HA, or tweaking thier weapons to help with that situation.

I found this strategy great on tf2 when the huge rush of f2p players came in. I found countless f2p players raging at engies with wrangler sentries. I would help them out, suggest a strategy they could use.

it's pretty awesome when something like that is successfully done, because that makes an impression, and improves the skill of the player in question. Also, it throws them off guard; which is funny.
Hope I helped!

[OnexBigxHebrew]

Great point... that's exactly what I plan to do, and I recommend any newcomers to do the same. Let all the dumb asses fight it out in global chat among themselves. While everyone else that is sane and mature, get shit done with their outfit on TS or VOIP.

I will just IGNORE the global chat. When I'm ready to read about players complaining and mumbo jumbo, I'll come to the forums for that. :p

Exactly. Just as people avoid area chat in other MMOS and use guild/party/etc, we should be sticking to teamspeak or maybe even the game's VOIP. Who gives a damn about chatboxes?

Just another thing for people around here to whine about I suppose. :P

[Pepsi]

I haven't seen any real drama in Tribes Ascend. That gives me hope for Planetside 2.Nah, Tribes has its own language separate from modern english, except there's only two words: "Woo-hoo!" "Shazbot!". Things get pretty heated sometimes:

"Woo-hoo!"
"Woo-hoo!"
"Woo-hoo!"
"Shazbot!"
"Woo-hoo!"

These two individuals were obviously exchanging insults about each other's respective mothers.

[Rockstone]

Nah, Tribes has its own language separate from modern english, except there's only two words: "Woo-hoo!" "Shazbot!". Things get pretty heated sometimes:

"Woo-hoo!"
"Woo-hoo!"
"Woo-hoo!"
"Shazbot!"
"Woo-hoo!"

These two individuals were obviously exchanging insults about each other's respective mothers.

The only real drama is me whining about why Tribes 2 is so much more superior.

[Envenom]

Having been part of successful servers in Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty and Battlefield over the last few years in my own community, there is one problem that always creeps up when you get pubbies in the servers. That is the chat box becomes a mess of people complaining about everything.

"So and so killed me with x gun he's a hacking"
"Anyone who uses y gun is a ******"
"x gun is so OP!"
"y can't I kill tank with pistol? That's BS!"

Or how about those people who talk as if they're the BEST PLAYER EVAR and then when they die once, they rage in chat call everyone hacking/exploiting noobs.

The problem with this behavior is that so much negativity can create a hostile and negative experience for everyone in your server. If you allow a few people to constantly complain in chat, even more people will. As admins we would typically ban people from the server if all they did was complain. This can also lead to people in the community moving on to other games as they don't want to listen to constant complaining and bitching. This is one of the biggest contributors to Battlefield 3 dying in my own community among other things.

So will Planetside 2 follow in that trend. I've only been playing the original Planetside for a few days now and for the most part that community is pretty good. Still it's a small community, and PS2 is likely going to get the masses from other shooters to come and at least check it out. Will the game just devolve into people endlessly complaining and bitching about everything that kills them? Will faction pride be something that gets people in line? Or is this something that we, as a community will have to keep a check on.

Welcome to the internet. F2P will only compound this.

[IHateMMOs]

Planetside 1 vets can take care of the trolls, considering that it is one of the best communities in gaming.

[Ironmerc]

From what i heard on TB's coverage talking about ps1 he said that only highly ranked people could global chat. Ps1 players confirm this?
So if that's true then new players cannot global chat anyways.
If not its an idea about what to do about it.

[Shinjorai]

A fun way that i've found out to deal with those whiny players, is to help them. Not to help them continue whining, but to help them become a better player.

"OMG ANYOONE WHO PLAYS MAX ARE NUUBS LEARN TO PLAY THE GAEM"
In this case, instead of shunning them from the game and it's community, help them learn how to deal with maxes, or whatever they don't like. maybe suggest playing HA, or tweaking thier weapons to help with that situation.

@Quantum Spices: I found this strategy great on tf2 when the huge rush of f2p players came in. I found countless f2p players raging at engies with wrangler sentries. I would help them out, suggest a strategy they could use.

it's pretty awesome when something like that is successfully done, because that makes an impression, and improves the skill of the player in question. Also, it throws them off guard; which is funny.
Hope I helped!


@Quantum Spices I think thats a great idea, if more people thought this way there wouldnt be so much negativity.

@Original Poster: As far as the negativity in PS2? Yep its gonna definitely be there, its in everything now adays. The problem with the internet is that everybody thinks because their opinion can be heard that it should be heard. In real life that doesnt work because if you go popping your mouth off to somebody and being rude and condescending theyre gonna probably knock the hell out of you lol.I thik it all comes down to how well we as a community police it, and what natural barriers to this are in the game to prevent it. So I think theres a lot of factors that go into this that make PS2 different than most of these other shooters. All these have already been listed but ill relist them because I agree and think theyre good points.


Factors that will prevent negativity:

One is the fact that you can only talk to your faction so people wont be able to sit there and scream and act like a bunch of idiots at the enemy team because the only people that will hear them is their own team, and theyll probably eventually end up putting them on ignore if they continue which in the long run means they wont make many friends and get bored with the game pretty quick since its gonna be harder to lone wolf in ps2.

Two is its a very team oriented social game experience and hopefully they see that and want to join in on that and in order to do that most people respond alot better to respectful communication than people berating them. So i think that will naturally balance itself out.


Three, Sony said theyre going to have a actual team of living human beings policing hackers and things so Im assuming they will help police the chat as well if it got too out of hand i cant imagine them not stepping in and saying something. I understand general negativity will always be there im just talking about the worst case scenario.


Four is this community as a foundation. Although sony is making all these kick ass promotional videos and advertising other ways, ive got a feeling the best advertising of all will be word of mouth, which means people coming into the game are going to be friends of people in the community here, so we can make sure they have a positive experience in the game and really enjoy themselves and it doesnt get to the point you have a bunch of pissed off frustrated players.

Five I think alot of times when people bitch and whine in games its because honestly theyre bored, but theres nothing else to play atm so they go on there and entertain themselves otherways. Sad but true. Thats another thing that i think will prevent negativity, how could you EVER get bored of planetside 2? Theres always going to be stuff to do. I for one plan to play this game for the next good many years as do most of my friends.




Sorry didnt mean to write a book, but i really think theres a lot of positive things PS2 has going for it that will prevent as much negativty setting in. The main thing that can be done is we ourselves step up and say hey, take that shit somewhere else we dont serve your kind here buddy. :Shrugs, just my two cents.

[Revanmug]

I haven't seen any real drama in Tribes Ascend. That gives me hope for Planetside 2.

Game or forum wise? Anyway, I have seen it for both quite often so I guess you are just lucky.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

@Quantum Spices


.... I wonder what part of the internet you've been on that I haven't? I've rarely ever encountered somebody emo-raging about something and been able to reason with them. That said... Who cares? Let 'em rage. Let 'em spam chat. It really doesn't matter. Now, where I'll get pissed off is if people spam VoIP. I expect, unfortunately, as good an idea as it is, 95% of the population will disable that within the first 24 hours :)

[james]

Never people hate to loose plain and simple. just ignore the chat box

[razor851]

Welcome to the internet.

[Sephirex]

Game or forum wise? Anyway, I have seen it for both quite often so I guess you are just lucky.

Gamewise. Like the other guy said, "It's all Woo-hoo and Shazbot" No one seems to bother with actual insult wars.

I haven't touched the forums.

[The Kush]

This thread is garbage

/closed

[Bittermen]

This is all to be expected. We have all been apart of many online games. It hasn't phased me yet... Why are you even worried?

YOU choose what section of the community YOU want to be apart of. There will always be trash talkin' nubs and hackers. So just choose to play with like minded people.

[Sephirex]

This is all to be expected. We have all been apart of many online games. It hasn't phased me yet... Why are you even worried?

YOU choose what section of the community YOU want to be apart of. There will always be trash talkin' nubs and hackers. So just choose to play with like minded people.

This gentleman is spot on.
Also, foster the community you want and its what you'll have.
No point in getting drawn into people that don't even interest you.

[bpostal]

One of the reasons I'm hoping for a robust /ignore command.

[Rumblepit]

Having been part of successful servers in Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty and Battlefield over the last few years in my own community, there is one problem that always creeps up when you get pubbies in the servers. That is the chat box becomes a mess of people complaining about everything.

"So and so killed me with x gun he's a hacking"
"Anyone who uses y gun is a ******"
"x gun is so OP!"
"y can't I kill tank with pistol? That's BS!"

Or how about those people who talk as if they're the BEST PLAYER EVAR and then when they die once, they rage in chat call everyone hacking/exploiting noobs.

The problem with this behavior is that so much negativity can create a hostile and negative experience for everyone in your server. If you allow a few people to constantly complain in chat, even more people will. As admins we would typically ban people from the server if all they did was complain. This can also lead to people in the community moving on to other games as they don't want to listen to constant complaining and bitching. This is one of the biggest contributors to Battlefield 3 dying in my own community among other things.

So will Planetside 2 follow in that trend. I've only been playing the original Planetside for a few days now and for the most part that community is pretty good. Still it's a small community, and PS2 is likely going to get the masses from other shooters to come and at least check it out. Will the game just devolve into people endlessly complaining and bitching about everything that kills them? Will faction pride be something that gets people in line? Or is this something that we, as a community will have to keep a check on.

This is a direct result of what hackers and bad balancing do to a community.thats all. balancing will be on us in beta. hackers ,well thats on SOE.

hackusations never come up in a game without hackers.

[Goldeh]

Well you don't have to worry about the lack of community, considering that this website is unoffical. Most people will QQ on the offical forums.

Just gotta hide the developer posts come release :D

[Sikee Atric]

A game like this will get a good playerbase. I'm running with an outfit and generally ignoring the whine of the 'uber'....

The playerbase of PS2 seems to be the best out of several communities I have joined, because PS1 has run for so long. There's enough rivalries and respect between the vets that no whining newbie is gonna stop it. I'm just gonna enjoy shooting them between the eyes and then sharing the stories with the vets.

But seriously! Any newb worth their salt will register here, or the official forums to actually try and make a name for themselves. No one will take them seriously if they don't.

[Dropshockmedic]

I owned like a Demon in Halo-1 and even people with Psychowithnoreallife-skills fell to my tactics, trembling and scared in the face of my powers.

Or... simply whined or quit the game.

I tell you one thing guys. Dont ever listen to the whining of the noobs you have killed. And if the faction-channels are not connected anyway, dont listen to the whining of the own faction either.


In WoW I had the best time in PvP when I totally ignored the crying of the mainstream. I played a Paladin offstyle in WoW-Classic and it was trend that time to simply cry out that this is totally inefficient.
But in the end I was one of the most "powerful" players out there. I could kill 2 or 3 other players of the same level when I had all my skills hitting in hard.

Normally you would never defeat 2. After one other player, you are just to empty to go on and fight another one. This is how WoW was made.
But I managed. And the whiners cried whole oceans.

If you win...
you are not determining who is right,
only who is better.

[Mordelicius]

Community-driven open world rvr mass pvp mmos will always have interfaction bickering. Actually the opposite is true, it will simply make the battles much better.

Any good faction will stop their players from "whining" too much.

[SFJake]

One of the reasons I'm hoping for a robust /ignore command.

Not just a slash command for sure. A very easy 2-button strike to mute someone is what should be included.

[pengalor]

As has been said, with an F2P game you are going to have a bunch of jackasses. Look at TF2, prime example. Great game for the most part, awful community (and I swear, I am so sick of half the servers I'm in having some 10 year old begging for spare weapons and crap over the mic).

However, it was my understanding that the factions could not communicate with each other so that will cut out a lot of the in game trash talk. As far as people talking about OP weapons and hackers, well it's not always easy for people to deal with that stuff. I know trying to kill people who use completely unbalanced weapons usually gets me pretty riled up just because I know I could kill them in just about any other scenario. As long as SOE can balance the game well it shouldn't be a problem. I'm just worried that we're going to see another Voss from 2142 and in this game if you play on the wrong faction you aren't ever getting that gun so they need to be incredibly careful to make sure it's balanced as closely as possible.

[Flaropri]

Having been part of successful servers in Team Fortress 2 (etc.)

I've actually had very few problems with TF2's community, but YMMV.


Here's my general experience overall, across several different types of Multi-Player games including different business models from F2P to P2O to Subscription.

Negativity happens, and it's annoying, painful, or in some rare cases out and out disturbing. Generally though, negativity is actually LESS common than it's made out to be. There are a couple of reasons for the disparity between how it's made out to be and what it is:

1. Negative experiences seem to make a greater impression on most players. People will more often remember the person that went on and on insulting their team-mates and/or accusing other players of cheating without basis than they will the people that give the occasional compliment "Nice shot" or "Good Game" to say nothing of the many, many "silent partners" that overall made the experience enjoyable. Part of this is because the positive or neutral interactions are so much more common-place there isn't usually a reason to pay specific attention to them.

2. People complain about negativity more often than they praise positivity... at least on forums and such. If a game of League of Legends, for example, has 1 guy constantly spouting insults or whatever the other 4 people on their team (and possibly the other 5 people on the other team as well) are more likely to discuss/report the issue with the one person rather than talk about how everyone else was fairly chill, ignored the douche, and moved on as best they could.



Generally, the quality of a given group or community IS driven by the group. Those times there's someone spamming chat in TF2 the other players will generally at least mute if not move to kick the player from the server. PS2 won't have player-initiated kicks, but it could potentially have a good reporting system, letting GMs handle players eventually as they do in, for example, World of Warcraft or Age of Conan. In the mean time, mute functionality helps to reduce overall negativity, and hopefully you'll be able to at least kick them out of your group/platoon (or leave it and form a private one).

This is part of how the community can "clean up" as well. Aside from being positive yourself, "punishing" insults, racism, or other similar negativity with muting, group kicks, etc. can discourage the behavior, or discourage the player from being in the game itself (while positive behavior can encourage others to be more positive and encourage more people to play in general).

Obviously, you need to avoid going negative yourself, or else you're falling into a trap (at least according to Akbar).

You're never going to wholly avoid people insulting others, accusing others falsely, or being a general dick. However, both the number of incidences and the effect they have on you and your play-group can be diminished by having an appropriate response both emotionally and when necessary; via action.


It has also been my experience that there's very little difference in overall ratio between F2P and Subscription as far as Positive:Negative goes. But my experiences are limited, so, as I said, YMMV.

[PoisonTaco]

To be perfectly clear I'm looking at this from the perspective of running a server. When you let one person bitch and complain in chat, it eventually gets more people to join in. What results is a server environment that's not fun. Our solution was to remove people who complain. The philosophy is "don't like it, don't play." Where if you're bitching about everything in-game you'll be warned and then banned. It makes things better for people who actually enjoy the game.

I'm curious to see if the faction loyalty will hold up. In the last beta weekend for Guild Wars 2, I was in the WvW map and I was happy to see trolls immediately get shut down in chat. People were working together and helping each other out. For the most part the initial playerbase for PS2 will be good, but I'm wondering if the masses will start to chip away at that community.

I'm also curious to see if SOE will provide any tools to help the community police itself. Dota 2 has the reporting/commending system where you can report people for negative behavior and commend them for being good sports. League of Legends has the Tribunal where reported players are judged and issued their bans from the players (though Riot does run through everything if a ban is in question).

I'm interested to see where the community for this game will go. As far as I'm concerned it could go either way. A large part of it falls on us, but there's also a lot SOE could do to help keep things in line.

[cellinaire]

Unavoidable, I guess.

[ITOS]

I foresee a lot of exaggerations about balancing issues and the occasional rage quit. *shrug*

[Kran De Loy]

No way in hell will there ever exist any anonymous body that can keep itself from developing Tourettes at some point in time.

[Novice bot]

Love this thread, just because OP's post considers 90% of PS1 players currently posting on these forums.

You know what I'm talking about.

[ArmedZealot]

Takes a look at this thread : terribleness (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45905)


Love this thread, just because OP's post considers 90% of PS1 players currently posting on these forums.

You know what I'm talking about.

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/My+*****+_a91e822ad401f1fda29b2a146817d68d.jpg


Heh, yes I do.

[Artimus]

Oh theyll be there. Just straight up rude motherfukers the type that give you shit for apologozing after you accidently tk them. The people that are pissed off all day everyday so they need to bring everyone else down with them by thinking of a stupid ass comment they feel they need to say just cuz in RL there a pussy. Sorry for venting but people like that annoy me.

[Accuser]

What do PS2 and hardcore BF3 have in common?
TKing the a**holes and hackers.

I will grief-lock multiple accounts on these f***ers, regardless of what anti-hacking tools are in place.

[Rodel]

The people that rage will only be able to exploit the lowest level of chat. In planetside all I paid attention to was squad/outfit/world chat and so on. The dueche bags wont have a voice unless you listen. Turn off local chat and your not missing anything.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

I wonder why they took away the ability to loot corpses. That is not only fun, but makes sense. Why couldn't I just pick up somebody's gun? It's a gun, not that complicated. And what are you supposed to do if you run out of ammo? I'm surrounded by dead bodies with guns, but I can't pick any of them up?

[Ninjacalypse]

there will always be negativity no matter how balanced guns are

because ITS IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS BETTER THEN MEEEEE!!!!!! I AM 1337 PLAYER MLG ETC ETC

Lol @ MLG. Buncha 14 year olds that call themselves "professional" gamers and whose vocabulary consists of just two words, "f--" and "n------".

[NEWSKIS]

All through the original PlanetSide, people complained about everything, and most of it was ignorant people complaining because they suck and have to blame something other than themselves lol.

[Cheapshots]

Not to side track this topic but, this happened with a little game called SMNC, 3rd person shooter mixed with Dota/moba style... no insta kill akimbo shottys.

Teamwork is op in the game (grapples and alike) and all you get was rage whiners from TF2 trying to get new hats and raging that this game was P2W or full of hackers...
When only the thing you can buy is cosmetics/ pros(can buy pros with game credits too) with $$ really.

When honestly they just started playing and a very small community from the beta were very good at the game and knew all the tricks with said pros. Sadly now that game is dropping to 1.2k-1.5k peak online.

I hope this does not happen with PS2 but i don't feel it will maybe i am wrong.