NC Heavy Assault

[IHateMMOs]

I don't know if it's too late, or not, but please remodel the NC Heavy Assaults helmet. It's just so ugly, make it more like the one in the trailer. Tell me if you agree or disagree, and please give me a reason for that. If it's too late for remodeling, I'm fine with it, I can live with it.

[Renegadeknight]

There is a difference? Didn't notice might want to add a comparison.

Edit-
I looked and see it now. Yeah I agree, the game version looks more like it is made of plastic. Don't think they will bother remodeling so late in development and the current one isn't horrible even if it isn't great.

[IHateMMOs]

The visor is much larger in the trailer, and there is no round cone on top of the helmet.

[Coreldan]

In the trailer that was a Light Assault if you mean the "main guy" in the video with the helmet and the visor.

I like the HA helmet, got no problemos with that.

[Gugabalog]

The NC are for heavy armor, not aesthetics. Change faction if its important to you.

[Renegadeknight]

In the trailer that was a Light Assault if you mean the "main guy" in the video with the helmet and the visor.

I like the HA helmet, got no problemos with that.if you look at the guy in the drop pod and the version in the game you can see the difference.

[IHateMMOs]

The NC are for heavy armor, not aesthetics. Change faction if its important to you.

Like I said, I can live with it, but I would still appreciate it if it looked cool. Besides, I'm not becoming a Nazi or a wannabe alien just because the helmet on one of the classes isn't that appealing

[BlazingSun]

If only the helm was the only problem with that armor. Personally I find the whole thing rather bad: ugly boots, the unrefined, flat, boring and cheap looking tacked on armor plates, the ridiculous groin and butt armor plates and the big uncovered spaces in between all the armor parts. :confused:

NC Medic, Engineer and Light Assault suffer from similar problems.

[Renegadeknight]

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2260/gamehelm.png

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7603/trailerhelm.png

here are the two to compare

[IHateMMOs]

If only the helm was the only problem with that armor. Personally I find the whole thing rather bad: ugly boots, the unrefined, flat, boring and cheap looking tacked on armor plates, the ridiculous groin and butt armor plates and the big uncovered spaces in between all the armor parts. :confused:

NC Medic, Engineer and Light Assault suffer from similar problems.

No, no, the armor is fine, its boxy, and it fits the NC theme. But the helmet makes him look like Papa Smurph.

[Idunno]

Don't think the Heavy armor was meant to look pretty.

[IHateMMOs]

Don't think the Heavy armor was meant to look pretty.

I'm not saying it should look pretty, I just want it to fit the theme of the NC. Hell even the HA boots look NCish. but the helmet is far too round. All they have to do is get rid of the top mohawk and make the visor larger.

[Katanauk]

It works for me.
VS is sleek and aesthetically pleasing.
TR is well rounded, and simple, but not cheap. These aren't rebels, they're the "empire".
NC is cheaper looking, as if they need to sacrifice aesthetics for efficiency. The bulk and how the armor looks like its been assembled in pieces more so than the other 2.

I always imagined NC being slightly less better off financially than the other 2 so for me it works.

That said I don't actually think it's ugly!

[Turdicus]

Don't forget about cosmetic items my friends. I will guarantee armor modifications will be in game, and that includes helmet options. You wanna look cool? Shell out some cash haha

[BlazingSun]

No, no, the armor is fine, its boxy, and it fits the NC theme. But the helmet makes him look like Papa Smurph.

Well that is your opinion. And that above is mine. And I don't like it. That TR HA looks roughly 100 times better than the NC version, which looks like it was made out of cardboard.

[Accuser]

I looked and see it now. Yeah I agree, the game version looks more like it is made of plastic. Don't think they will bother remodeling so late in development and the current one isn't horrible even if it isn't great.

Of course it's made of plastic. This is the NC we're talking about. You're lucky it's not made of cookware, sunglasses and duct tape.

[Renegadeknight]

Of course it's made of plastic. This is the NC we're talking about. You're lucky it's not made of cookware, sunglasses and duct tape.

lol, true but I think it would look nice if it was more metallic.

[RJTravis]

Tuedicus is right.

Why would SoE give you the best armor models free?

Remember the game is built on a F2P cash shop.

They will have elite 1337 armor for 59.99 per part on the shop lol.

I can't wait to see the models on some of the veh they will be selling.

[IHateMMOs]

Don't forget about cosmetic items my friends. I will guarantee armor modifications will be in game, and that includes helmet options. You wanna look cool? Shell out some cash haha

Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense. ALL the armor in NC and TR looks cool, soooo already without customization, and it fits the theme very well for both factions, the NC feels a bit left out. I know they're supposed to be ragtag, but the light helmets, and the infiltrator helmets are perfect, while the HA is just straight up ugly.

Of course it's made of plastic. This is the NC we're talking about. You're lucky it's not made of cookware, sunglasses and duct tape.

Funny you should say that, even with all nc wearing the stuff you listed, we would still last longer in fights.

[Braveliltoaster]

There is a difference? Didn't notice might want to add a comparison.

Edit-
I looked and see it now. Yeah I agree, the game version looks more like it is made of plastic. Don't think they will bother remodeling so late in development and the current one isn't horrible even if it isn't great.

what do you expect from NC, there a bunch of rag tag fighters like the Taliban. I'm not surprised it looks like plastic, for all we know all their armor is plastic. look at their MAX its a loader exoskeleton they put plastic armor on and duck taped guns to the arms. reminds me of the fighters over in Syria recycling tank parts and putting them in the back of their trucks.

[Renegadeknight]

what do you expect from NC, there a bunch of rag tag fighters like the Taliban. I'm not surprised it looks like plastic, for all we know all their armor is plastic. look at their MAX its a loader exoskeleton they put plastic armor on and duck taped guns to the arms. reminds me of the fighters over in Syria recycling tank parts and putting them in the back of their trucks.
you think with the corporate backing they could afford better gear.

[IHateMMOs]

I'm just saying the mohawk and the small visor doesn't fit. I agree about the NC armor looking really ugly.

[Braveliltoaster]

you think with the corporate backing they could afford better gear.

Fuck NC needs to get their shit together

[BlazingSun]

Tuedicus is right.

Why would SoE give you the best armor models free?

Remember the game is built on a F2P cash shop.

They will have elite 1337 armor for 59.99 per part on the shop lol.

I can't wait to see the models on some of the veh they will be selling.

I definitely see that point. But following that logic, the TR HA would have to look worse by default.

[ChookWantan]

I really like the look of our HA...

[BlazingSun]

And I don't ;)

[IHateMMOs]

Remember how much the VS were complaining about their HA? But they did get over it, but me being an NC, i will admit that I LOVED the Vanu HA from the start, but the NC HA's helmet was just disappointing. Minor tweaks should make him look good, but I can live with.

[MercDT]

Completely agree with you. I made a thread about the NC troops looking bad(except for infiltrator/max) compared to the other factions using the medic as a main example...which looks worse than the heavy assault IMO.

But yes, I would definitely prefer this helmet over the current one...
Man, this whole "rag-tag rebel" group thing is just starting to really annoy me when it dictates the look of a faction.

[Bags]

NC heavy assault helmet looks badass.

I'm sure you guys will be able to buy pretty hats so I don't see why you guys are so worried and upset about this.

[Geist]

If you guys want epic looking armor, the TR is always open to new recruits. ;)

[Badjuju]

I thing the NC HA looks great and really fits their theme as rebels. I remember the developers saying they wanted that rebel look where they had to piece there armor together from old mining equipment and such. If you are worried about the helmet I imagine there will be allot of customization options to choose from. We have already seen several VS HA helmets in the screen shots, one with the pointy head and one rounded. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[Deadeye]

I agree with the OP and on top of that I think the whole suit looks better than the current HA suit.

[Bittermen]

Wasn't the guy in the droppod a engineer?

[Deadeye]

whatever he was, he looked damn cool.

[berzerkerking]

I'm VS you have no reason to complain

[MercDT]

Ahhh Bags it would be nice to know what they're going to sell on the cash shop so we can calm down.

I just hope it's nothing ridiculous like those eve online monocles.

[Tamas]

Trailer one is sooooo much better. I hate the current NC heavy looks - the gray shirt and the silly visor.

[GhettoPrince]

I would pay so much money if my NC heavy could wear a plaid baseball cap.

http://i.imgur.com/H1t53.jpg

Of course an NC engineer needs something more practical.

http://i.imgur.com/g9IRq.jpg
PABST BLUE RIBBON!

I'm not even joking, I would love to have funny hats and accessories :)

[CrystalViolet]

FWIW, I've been saying this for months, all the NC helmets look off to me say for the infil. It's like the modeler was having a bad day.

[Neurotoxin]

Plan to spend some SC on a new helmet.

[IHateMMOs]

If you guys want epic looking armor, the TR is always open to new recruits. ;)

I think I'd much rather keep my brain, then wear a pretty helmet over an empty head.

Plan to spend some SC on a new helmet.

But that's not fair. The VS and TR helmets look perfect, so NC is the only one that has to spend all the money?

[Xyntech]

But that's not fair. The VS and TR helmets look perfect, so NC is the only one that has to spend all the money?

The VS TR MAXes could use some tweaking too, while the NC MAX looks amazing by default. Don't worry too much about it. They are all alright as they are, and there will undoubtedly be something that pleases you more in the cash shop.

[BlueSkies]

But that's not fair. The VS and TR helmets look perfect, so NC is the only one that has to spend all the money?

Its the trade off for having the best weapons

[Littleman]

Though a concept of a female NC, I believe this image (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90b178fb11.jpg) is closer to being the "heavy assault" you see in the trailer (compare shoulder pads.) In other words, that's not a heavy assault, that's a heavily armored "light" armor soldier class.

Yes. The extra padding will make a medic/engineer/LA(?) look totally bad-ass. Totally worth whatever amount of money SOE demands we throw at them.

Edit: For contrast, our main man in the cinematic was essentially wearing this. (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90b0661c5b.jpg) Now put the two concepts in each of their own tabs, side by side on your browser, and just click back and forth between them.

[disky]

The helmet that the Archangels were wearing was the Reinforced Exosuit helmet from the original Planetside. TRay has already mentioned that they're thinking about making the original armors available on the shop, so I'm going to assume that this is just a nod in that direction.

And I'm quite excited for it, because I also think the HA armor looks a bit silly, and I loved the PS1 rexo armor.

[Revanmug]

I don't know, I actually like the NC armor. Then again, I hate with a passion the idea of being a sniper in very sleek armor aka all the infiltrator design.

(in before infiltrator isn't just a sniper...)

[BlazingSun]

OK, so here is my suggestion for some changes/improvements for the NC HA armor. I have added the helmet from the trailer and changed the things I disliked the most. The chest armor is still problematic and so are the boots. It's far from perfect, but at least in my eyes an improvement over the original version.

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS2-NC-HA.jpg

[IceyCold]

OK, so here is my suggestion for some changes/improvements for the NC HA armor. I have added the helmet from the trailer and changed the things I disliked the most. The chest armor is still problematic and so are the boots. It's far from perfect, but at least in my eyes an improvement over the original version.

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS2-NC-HA.jpg

How would somebody even move in that?

[codylee]

i love the look of the NC the Vanu look cools also but the TR all the headgear mostly goggles and gasmask the style looks like Nasty bug faces idk why people think that looks good

[Littleman]

I'm telling you... the suit of armor (including the helmet) the guy was wearing in the trailer is the heavy padded version of

This armor. (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/vmscby2n9f/20120305_4f54eaf086c48.jpg)

Not just the shoulder pads, but you can see the shape of the helmet is the same. The different helmets between, let's call it agile and rexo for old times sake, help differentiate the armors when the agile is fully covered up in plates.

[MercDT]

Goddamn it. That looks significantly better than the current ones. Why can't we have that instead?

[ThermalReaper]

I think it's because NC use makeshift armors, they gather around parts from corperations then put them together themselves.

[Braveliltoaster]

you know that there are cosmetic head pieces in the game through the store, so if you don't like it.... change it

[BlazingSun]

How would somebody even move in that?

Care to explain?

[Bags]

OK, so here is my suggestion for some changes/improvements for the NC HA armor. I have added the helmet from the trailer and changed the things I disliked the most. The chest armor is still problematic and so are the boots. It's far from perfect, but at least in my eyes an improvement over the original version.

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS2-NC-HA.jpg

I think that's really ugly except for the black instead of tan. Hopefully we can customize our armor to that level so everyone is happy. good shop though

[BlazingSun]

I think that's really ugly ...

That's rich coming from someone with a pony as avatar. Nah .. fair enough. ;)

[Ratstomper]

I would prefer they work on changing the NC sidearm, imo.

I doubt either will be done, though.

[BlazingSun]

If only it would look more like the concept art ....

[CrystalViolet]

I'm telling you... the suit of armor (including the helmet) the guy was wearing in the trailer is the heavy padded version of

This armor. (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/vmscby2n9f/20120305_4f54eaf086c48.jpg)

Not just the shoulder pads, but you can see the shape of the helmet is the same. The different helmets between, let's call it agile and rexo for old times sake, help differentiate the armors when the agile is fully covered up in plates.

I think you're correct. Here's a concept image that illustrates the lighter full face helmet. http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90b178fb11.jpg

That said, the NC HA concept art had a very similar helmet that looked much better than the final 3D model.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120328_4f73aa1214168.jpg

[Revanmug]

Care to explain?

Pauldron : You probably wouldn't be able to much arms movement since you made those pauldrons so large, they would collide with the body armor. Except if you have this magical constant body clipping.

Main armor: Those plate are rigide. By sticking them together like this, you are removing alot of freedom of movement.

Belt: The belt is soo goddanm large the guy has 0 mobility from the waist since it collide with every other armor piece. let,s hope you don't ever have to get something on the ground.

boots: Your boots are 1 solid piece... Please go put some shoes and realise why that would be stupid and very inconfortable

I mean, Why not adds a 10 ton shield with this! Moar armor! Need moar...
Wait... they are call max unit at that point

[IHateMMOs]

I think you're correct. Here's a concept image that illustrates the lighter full face helmet. http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90b178fb11.jpg

That said, the NC HA concept art had a very similar helmet that looked much better than the final 3D model.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120328_4f73aa1214168.jpg

Jesus CHrist, I remember how impatient I was for the heavy assault to look like that, now, I'm just like, eh.

[IHateMMOs]

The VS TR MAXes could use some tweaking too, while the NC MAX looks amazing by default. Don't worry too much about it. They are all alright as they are, and there will undoubtedly be something that pleases you more in the cash shop.

I think the VS maxs are fine. I think it actually represents the Vanu symbol, and it actually looks like something alien. The Vanu HA too, but the NC HA is just weird, doesn't fit very well. The Engineer helmet is fine, IMO, since it doesn't have the mohawk.

[BlazingSun]

Pauldron : You probably wouldn't be able to much arms movement since you made those pauldrons so large, they would collide with the body armor. Except if you have this magical constant body clipping.

Main armor: Those plate are rigide. By sticking them together like this, you are removing alot of freedom of movement.

Belt: The belt is soo goddanm large the guy has 0 mobility from the waist since it collide with every other armor piece. let,s hope you don't ever have to get something on the ground.

boots: Your boots are 1 solid piece... Please go put some shoes and realise why that would be stupid and very inconfortable

I mean, Why not adds a 10 ton shield with this! Moar armor! Need moar...
Wait... they are call max unit at that point

Could have done without the sarcasm. The boots were not meant as one solid piece, neither was the body armor. And the pauldrons, while too big, would not have limited arm movement to the extent that you describe.

That you won't be able to dance ballet while in Heavy Armor either way should be clear. But I have taken the points of criticism into account and changed it a bit.

[Tamas]

OK, so here is my suggestion for some changes/improvements for the NC HA armor. I have added the helmet from the trailer and changed the things I disliked the most. The chest armor is still problematic and so are the boots. It's far from perfect, but at least in my eyes an improvement over the original version.

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS2-NC-HA.jpg

Looks so much better!

[Satch]

Who cares what u look like tbh? So long as u can pwn TR and VS, all is well :)

[IHateMMOs]

Who cares what u look like tbh? So long as u can pwn TR and VS, all is well :)

But I want to feel comfortable playing as an NC HA. The pwning is guaranteed.

[dafuq]

TR looks most appealing but im gonna play VS

and tbh VS looks like they are wearing diving suites / drysuites

[IHateMMOs]

TR looks most appealing but im gonna play VS

and tbh VS looks like they are wearing diving suites / drysuites

It's about the theme of the faction. The TR wears well made, well tended to, very functioning armor, the VS wears futuristic sort of tight nano suits and high tech armor plating over it, and the NC wears turtlenecks. GG

[AzureWatcher]

It's about the theme of the faction. The TR wears well made, well tended to, very functioning armor, the VS wears futuristic sort of tight nano suits and high tech armor plating over it, and the NC wears turtlenecks. GG

Yup. And the TR, more often than not, look like black-and-red beetles. The NC look like a group of kids LARPing with cardboard platemail. Vanu just look classy.

[Deadeye]

Yup. And the TR, more often than not, look like black-and-red beetles. The NC look like a group of kids LARPing with cardboard platemail. Vanu just look classy.

It's classy to look like Greys?

[IHateMMOs]

Yup. And the TR, more often than not, look like black-and-red beetles. The NC look like a group of kids LARPing with cardboard platemail. Vanu just look classy.

Since when is purple and teal combo with a bunch of triangles classy?

[Blue]

Disagree - - - Looks sick IMHO

[Piper]

Well, can tell it's been five years since I had anything to do with PS.

Click on a thread with this title and it's not a discussion about nerfing the n00bhammer. :eek:

How strange. :p

[ArmedZealot]

Well, can tell it's been five years since I had anything to do with PS.

Click on a thread with this title and it's not a discussion about nerfing the n00bhammer. :eek:

How strange. :p

Go read the PS1 section, the debate still rages.

Wait till we are all in beta though. My guess is right now on the tech test forums there are no less that 5 threads about how X is overpowered.

[Piper]

Wait till we are all in beta though. My guess is right now on the tech test forums there are no less that 5 threads about how X is overpowered.

Give it a week and it'll be Y! :D

(Most) Gamers are a pretty dense at times, they never seem to get that you can have difference in games or you can have perfect balance, never both. :p

[RawketLawnchair]

We get customizations for helmets so I'm not concerned.
And no they aren't going to be anywhere near $60.

An SOE card is either $10 or $15 and its like 1000 points. So I would say anywhere from 200-500 SOE pts per helmet. Its a bit much and all, but it wouldn't surprise me. Games like DCUO do great because of this points system. I dropped about $50-$60 in my 4 months playing it and I don't regret it because I had a good time and I didn't need to spend all my money at once to do it.

[Artimus]

I am sure it was said but you can custumize the look, the trailer with the soldier in the drop pod was a custum helmet.