Vanu Intel?

[Deadlock]

Ok, i thought the vanu were suposed to be the smart guys. What the hell was this poor smuck thinking?...http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=591 I mean really what did he hope to achieve?

[Kalam]

That is just a hologram and several stealthers are approaching from behind.;)

[NCG JMan]

LOL....I thought the same thing. Never bring a knife to a gun fight kind of thing. Maybe he (Vanu) has some weapon and agility that is going to out flank that MAX armored guy.....I don't know. The Vanu guy is definitely going to be more agile, but it looks like he's running straight for the MAX armor guy...not a good thing to do....most likely certain death for that Vanu guy

[Fire_Monkey]

:rolleyes:

Well, the TR MAX has AV weapons, which are designed to deal maximum damage to Vehicles. As he is infantry, this makes the MAX's weapons less effective. You can't really determine what weapon he has, but it looks like the lasher, which would rape the MAX. So even though I dislike Vanu, the soldier wasn't all that stupid.

[NCG JMan]

Good point. I don't know all the weapons by sight yet, but if the MAX weapons are AV then yes, the Vanu may stand a chance after all:cool:

[Fire_Monkey]

Originally posted by =NCG=JMan
Good point. I don't know all the weapons by sight yet, but if the MAX weapons are AV then yes, the Vanu may stand a chance after all:cool:

Deadlock?

[Ouroboros]

The Vanu is still in agile, and the MAX is still a MAX, no chance unless he has a Lancer or something. :D

[mr_luc]

Unless . . . just unless, from the stance that MAX is in, he looks like he MIGHT be doing that 2-foot-stomp-lockdown thing. If he just started that motion, the Vanu might know that he'll have a few seconds to get behind the locked-down MAX, or at least out of his POV, until the MAX gets unlocked.

Still, though . . . that Vanu either has solid brass balls and knows something we don't know, or he's a moron. :D

[Revulsion]

Quick! Cloak! :D

[NCG JMan]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
Deadlock?

Ya...quoted you FireMonkey and said it was Deadlock...sorry...erased that now. My bad. I thought I erased it quick enough, so that you didn't see it.....guess not :p

[Fire_Monkey]

:lol:

[Warborn]

The MAX is anti-vehicle, and the Vanu's Punisher may be loaded with armor piercing rounds. He has a chance.

[spartan89]

lol

[mr_luc]

Spartan: plz die now. kthx.

[Kalam]

How do you know it is AV?
The AV grenade launchers in the PS_Break vid looked somewhat different. I thought it's an AA MAX.

[Fire_Monkey]

That's irrelevant, if they're not AI, he has a chance.

[simba]

lol? Do you even consider that he didnt knew the MAX dude stood there? He might just had ran into him without knowing he was there? And I think its SO SO SO booring when they dont have HS, :( almost makes me dont wanna buy it :( coz that is one big thing that seperates the newbies from pros and almost eliminate the chances for an infantry to win against a max in close combat, with HS:S that would be possible.

[Seer]

It looks like an AA max--and yeah, if the max is locking down, the vanu can get behind him.

[�io]

We're just that damn courageous.


That and he has our ultra secret proton demoleculizer. :p

[Fire_Monkey]

Dio you went Purple!!?? :eek: :confused: :( :mad: No!!!!

[Deadlock]

i wasnt sure what kind of max it was. if its not anti-infentry then it helps the vanu's chances. but that vanu is in agile armor he's still greatly out wayed i would think. if anything u'd think he'd come from behind. he has a punisher but at that rang a rocket would hurt him to so he's gota put his punisher's rate of fire up against a possible AI TR max. i dunno, i might be complettly wrong but it just seems like an ant f'ing with bull to me

[mr_luc]

Like I said earlier though -- I think that the MAX's posture indicates that he's about to plant his feet for 'lockdown' -- so the Vanu likely has a great shot at getting RIGHT behind him with whatever powerful short-range weapon he has.

[balab]

reminded me of the movie braveheart. just when the english thought the scots were crazy,

and wallace says, "wait... wait... wait..."
and the TR max began lockdown, and the vanu charged w/ his lancer.

i watch too many movies. :D

[Euroclydon]

Originally posted by Kalam
That is just a hologram and several stealthers are approaching from behind.;)

lol

Actually, there's thousands of stealthers... see that hazy kind of fog near the ground all over? That's motion blur from all the stealthers that are gonna knife the MAX to death. :)


I did learn something from this thread though... I thought MAX armor had AI, AA, and AV all at the same time. I didn't realize you could only have one type of weapon. That makes a MAX very specialized, and it seems it'd make the more versatile reinforced and light armor a lot more attractive too.

[NapalmEnima]

My money's in that being the Flacker, TR's AA MAX. Those barrels look too skinny to be the Pounder's grenade launchers. I'd also say the VS is holding a punisher (pretty certain of that), and wearing agile armor (not quite so certain).


THIS, on the other hand, looks the part... and is Really Close to that video Kalam mentioned:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=335

The flacker's supposed to have some sort of air-burt effect when locked onto a plane... I would expect the shells to burst on contact with anything. So all this MAX has to do is aim for the VS's feet and yell "DANCE MUTHA F*CKA!!!". All that splash damage ought to turn this VS to MULCH. Not as fast as an AI would... but fertilizer is fertilizer.


On the other hand, that VS might be running backwards... hard to tell without some sort of animation.

[Camping Carl]

The vanu guy is about to die in that pic because:

A. All max weapons work fairly well against all things, but better against certain things. This was stated by a dev. I'd bet that tho the TR max doesn't have an AI weapon, he still has more firepower than the Vanu guy. (tho I can't say for sure)

B. He's a max suit for crying out loud! He has A LOT more armor.

[Mauser101]

You've all got it wrong. The Vanu is hurriedly straffing behind a tree so it will soak up the damage and he can safely soil his armor. :)

I'd have to agree with Camping Carl. Nomatter what weapon the Vanu has there, a MAX should be able to dispatch any lesser armor in an outdoor, one on one fight without much of a problem. That is, unless the Vanu is holding a Decimator, then the MAX is gone.


::Wants to see a vid with the Decimator being fired at a medium/heavy tank::

[Fire_Monkey]

Originally posted by Camping Carl
The vanu guy is about to die in that pic because:

A. All max weapons work fairly well against all things, but better against certain things. This was stated by a dev. I'd bet that tho the TR max doesn't have an AI weapon, he still has more firepower than the Vanu guy. (tho I can't say for sure)

B. He's a max suit for crying out loud! He has A LOT more armor.

1. Not really, otherwise there would be no point in specializing. If they were all equally powerful, everyone would run around with AA because it's most versatile. I'm under the impression that the AV will be as ineffective as the UT Rocket Launcher, took like 2/3 direct hits to kill. So the AA will be less effective.

2. He could have AP rounds.

[Kalam]

Nah, as Dio mentioned before this guy is using our secret proton demoleculizer, so the MAX will die no matter how strong he is.


Honestly I do not think that some light stands a chance against a MAX, whatever weaponsetting he is wearing, when just running up to him. There may be several other grunts around or maybe this guy is just going for a quick respawn. We can't tell...

[NCG JMan]

Originally posted by mr_luc
Spartan: plz die now. kthx.

Sorry to get off subject, but why the animosity towards Spartan, Mr. Luc. Just curious. Did I miss something?:confused:

[NeoTassadar]

Looks like the Vanu guy has a Punisher. That means mini-rockets, possibly the plasma grenade type of warhead (the devs said that there will be many kinds of warheads for Punisher secondary). Besides, he's probably only a distraction so the MAX will hold still for the Lancer-sniper off-screen.

[Camping Carl]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
1. Not really, otherwise there would be no point in specializing. If they were all equally powerful, everyone would run around with AA because it's most versatile. I'm under the impression that the AV will be as ineffective as the UT Rocket Launcher, took like 2/3 direct hits to kill. So the AA will be less effective.

2. He could have AP rounds.

1. :D I kinda said that, tho I didn't type it very well now that I read it. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I meant that the devs have stated max weapons work well even against the things they aren't specialized for, just not as well as their speciallity. Unless they've said otherwise on this, I'd still say the max suit has a firepower advantage.

2. Armor piercing bullets don't give a damage bonus. All they do is ensure that you do the normal amount of damage. But that doesn't even matter, because vanu only use one ammo type, energy.

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Looks like the guy is drop=podding to me..

[Fire_Monkey]

Originally posted by Camping Carl


2. Armor piercing bullets don't give a damage bonus. All they do is ensure that you do the normal amount of damage. But that doesn't even matter, because vanu only use one ammo type, energy.

Yes, but the weapon is common pool, and Vanu can use common pool weapons, thus he can use the bullet aspect of the gun, and anyway, he could have scavenged some bullets if not.

[Camping Carl]

Yes, but the weapon is common pool, and Vanu can use common pool weapons, thus he can use the bullet aspect of the gun, and anyway, he could have scavenged some bullets if not.

Why does this matter?
Indeed, he could be using a common pool weapon. I assume it's a vanu weapon tho, it just looks that way to me. But it doesn't matter if he uses common pool or not. My point still stands, he doesn't get a damage bonus for using AP bullets, so that wouldn't improve his odds. (Rockets or grenades might help him a little, tho he still wouldn't win.)

[1024]

Originally posted by simba
lol? Do you even consider that he didnt knew the MAX dude stood there? He might just had ran into him without knowing he was there? And I think its SO SO SO booring when they dont have HS, :( almost makes me dont wanna buy it :( coz that is one big thing that seperates the newbies from pros and almost eliminate the chances for an infantry to win against a max in close combat, with HS:S that would be possible.


qwll if they did add hs's then MAXs whould be crap. They move so slow and shit they're heads are huge even a noob would be able to unload into a MAX's face

[Mauser101]

MAXs are slow? Have you seen the psbreak videoyet? That TR AI MAX was moving pretty darn fast.

[Ouroboros]

MAXs have to build up to that speed over a period of time. Plus their turning is shot to hell, and they can not fire their weapon while in the running mode.

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by Camping Carl
Armor piercing bullets don't give a damage bonus. All they do is ensure that you do the normal amount of damage. But that doesn't even matter, because vanu only use one ammo type, energy.
What are you talking about? We have better than armor-piercing bullets. We have armor-piercing mode. We don't have to unload and reload to switch to armor piercing. We merely flip a switch, and we're ready to rock. One of the many reasons I picked the Vanu was because of this versatility.

Edit: Oh yeah, Spnsr, NO HEADSHOTS. No body locations at all. Do start a thread on this subject, the horse has been killed, beaten, shredded, and distributed evenly across the globe.

[Camping Carl]

What are you talking about? We have better than armor-piercing bullets. We have armor-piercing mode. We don't have to unload and reload to switch to armor piercing. We merely flip a switch, and we're ready to rock. One of the many reasons I picked the Vanu was because of this versatility.

As I understand it only the beamer has AP mode, and that's a pistol. If you want to use that against a tank, be my guest. Otherwise you only have one mode to worry about, but do a little less damage overall to make it fair.

[NeoTassadar]

Pretty sure it is implemented in other weapons, but if I'm against anything bigger than Standard armor, i'm using a Lancer. But that's just me.:D

[�io]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
Dio you went Purple!!?? :eek: :confused: :( :mad: No!!!!

Dio went purple since he first read about each empire.(like over 5 months ago) :D

I recently went VS/NC since i joined BOHICA. TR as well but i plan to spend very little time in BOHICA TR. :)

[WNxUndeadFenix]

http://www.warriornation.org/upload/insaneNC.JPG
Nuff said:D

[Warborn]

Originally posted by WNxUndeadFenix
http://www.warriornation.org/upload/insaneNC.JPG
Nuff said:D

He's clearly not insane enough to post such a crappy picture.


Oh, and AP bullets are the thing to use against a MAX.

[WNxUndeadFenix]

2 min pic with ms paint hehe