View Full Version : via Smed: Beta starts Monday at 2PM PDT
Fizzgig
2012-08-02, 09:06 PM
John Smedley @j_smedley
Looking like it's going to be Monday at 2pm for the start of Beta. still a lot of work to do tomorrow and this weekend but looking good
golfmasta34
2012-08-02, 09:07 PM
Exciting times we're heading towards. Hopefully no more delays, but if they need to hold off they should.
DirtyBird
2012-08-02, 09:08 PM
Looking like = soon
ArmedZealot
2012-08-02, 09:09 PM
At least they were kind enough to tell us earlier this time. Many people changed their schedules around to try to get a full day with PS2, now they can change accordingly.
(Not me mind you)
Sephirex
2012-08-02, 09:09 PM
Sweet! Looking forward to not getting an invite and waiting another month or two!
Just kidding. Excited this might finally be it.
Bart Scott - Can't Wait! - YouTube
WiteBeam
2012-08-02, 09:10 PM
Atleast we know now.
I hope people here realize they still may not be in beta for weeks.
Fizzgig
2012-08-02, 09:12 PM
It's hard not to be skeptical, but here's hoping they have everything in place for Monday.
Bring. It. On.
Liwen Diamond
2012-08-02, 09:12 PM
He gave the exact hour, which strongly indicates they are confident it's gonna happen this time. If they push it back again I'm not spending my monday afternoon on these forums...
And now I wish I was a PS1 vet.
knew it, since tech test doesnt even end till saturday, of course its not going to be friday...
Sephirex
2012-08-02, 09:13 PM
I hope people here realize they still may not be in beta for weeks.
I'm all too painfully aware.
QuantumMechanic
2012-08-02, 09:14 PM
This is the first time we've actually been given an estimate down to the hour.
SOON has never been so definite as it is now!
Edit: it would be great if we could start downloading the client over the weekend
Crator
2012-08-02, 09:14 PM
Awesome! :thumbsup:
dafuq
2012-08-02, 09:15 PM
seems like i can cancel my sub on monday
Sephirex
2012-08-02, 09:17 PM
seems like i can cancel my sub on monday
There was really no need to keep it going this long. They already took their snapshot of active subs.
Atheosim
2012-08-02, 09:17 PM
Cool, I hope everyone is planning on devoting a good chunk of time to actually helping to debug this game.
dafuq
2012-08-02, 09:17 PM
There was really no need to keep it going this long. They already took their snapshot of active subs.
:doh:
i know better since i had a chat with the support
just do it yourself and ask them
Vanath
2012-08-02, 09:19 PM
Giving an exact hour makes me more confident this isn't going to be pushed back again but I'm still going to be skeptical until it happens.
Goldeh
2012-08-02, 09:23 PM
John Smedley @j_smedley
Looking like it's going to be Monday at 2pm for the start of Beta. still a lot of work to do tomorrow and this weekend but looking good
Wouldn't it be funny if he twitters back and says:
"Sorry everyone it was typo. Beta will start sunday. Sorry for the confusion...trollface"
RRR X
2012-08-02, 09:25 PM
I still don't have a beta key. :(
Liwen Diamond
2012-08-02, 09:26 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if he twitters back and says:
"Sorry everyone it was typo. Beta will start sunday. Sorry for the confusion...trollface"
Even better : Sorry I forgot to mention it's Monday August 27th... whoops.
Poser
2012-08-02, 09:26 PM
Who wants to take bets on another delay? :P
haticK
2012-08-02, 09:29 PM
now just 2-3 more weeks until priority keys start getting in :(
Sentrosi
2012-08-02, 09:39 PM
Smed said 2pm on Monday. But he didn't say WHICH MONDAY???? AAAHHHHH RAGEEEEEEE SO MUCH RAAAAAGGGEEEEEEEEE!
Sincerely,
Those who spammed your Twitter account that didn't get into the tech test demanding a shot.
Fizzgig
2012-08-02, 09:40 PM
I still don't have a beta key. :(
Check your private messages. I had a spare key so sent you it.
Have fun! :D
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! yeaaah! monday suckas!
My sub for PS1 ran out a week or 2 ago. but even if i am not directly invited on monday, might take a week cause i am a Vet.
Stoooked!
Shotgun carnage!
Death2All
2012-08-02, 09:44 PM
Beta Delay Monday at 2PM*
Pyreal
2012-08-02, 09:51 PM
Well I'll be at work so sticking little yellow stickers on bench grinders and saw blades.
SkarBlade
2012-08-02, 10:02 PM
How long will this beta last?
HeatLegend
2012-08-02, 10:05 PM
How long will this beta last?
OVER 9000 seconds at least, not quite sure- hopefully it's a long-term thing though.
Foker
2012-08-02, 10:05 PM
Very excited about this game....now if I would just get that email with a beta invite I would be even more excited.
The Heavy
2012-08-02, 10:54 PM
What about those who can not play that first day? Will we still be able to access the game at a later date? If it does indeed start Monday that is.
I'm going on vacation Saturday and wont be back till next week
ArmedZealot
2012-08-02, 10:55 PM
What about those who can not play that first day? Will we still be able to access the game at a later date? If it does indeed start Monday that is.
I'm going on vacation Saturday and wont be back till next week
AFAIK Your invite gives you access permanently unless the servers are down or you break the NDA.
Littleman
2012-08-02, 11:04 PM
Later tweets he jokingly hints at the beta being mostly bug free - intended anyway, as never will every bug ever be squashed in any game... except maybe pong, and even then I wouldn't make any bets.
I really do believe they intend for us to just play the game like normal for the sake of balance testing, sticking to whatever killing implements they want us to use when they ask us to use them. Again, that would be for balancing data.
Liwen Diamond
2012-08-02, 11:28 PM
Out of topic but just curious. I knew a littleman from the good old days of pre-launch of TERA. Are you that very same person, and if so : Hey man, how have you been?
Xyntech
2012-08-02, 11:39 PM
2PM, eh? Wow, starting to get more specific. Maybe we should bump beta up from Soon™ to Very Soon™.
Littleman
2012-08-02, 11:44 PM
Out of topic but just curious. I knew a littleman from the good old days of pre-launch of TERA. Are you that very same person, and if so : Hey man, how have you been?
Hi, Liwen, thought that was you. Never seen anyone else take the name before anyway. TERA is... soulless. Waiting on PS2, obviously :p And having played PS1, I'm freaking stoked. Terran Republic for the win baby! See y'all bitches sometime next week!
CidHighwind
2012-08-03, 12:29 AM
Let the domination of the TR and VS begin.
Liwen Diamond
2012-08-03, 12:31 AM
Hi, Liwen, thought that was you. Never seen anyone else take the name before anyway. TERA is... soulless. Waiting on PS2, obviously :p And having played PS1, I'm freaking stoked. Terran Republic for the win baby! See y'all bitches sometime next week!
Sad about TERA. I played it for about 3 weeks then the student strike (Yes, in the crazy country that is Canada, students can go on strikes) ended and the semester resumed, but in double time since we had to condense 2 months worth of study in one. When RL says it's time to get shit done, you get shit done, so I didn't get to play any game at all for pretty much all of June. After that I just did felt like picking it up again. Tribes : Ascend however is loads of fun and revived my interest in the FPS genre, but it lacks the feel of persistent gameplay I've had with MMOs like EVE. Logical conclusions lead me here for Planetside 2. I hope I can find in it an MMO that's gonna be fun to play for more than a month or so.
Have to say those 3 weeks of TERA were the best fun I had with a MMORPG in year. It's a great game, but I'm not feeling RPGs right now it seems.
Anyway rambling aside I'm glad to see a familiar face, well username... You know what I mean :P. I only have a regular registration for PS2 beta so I doubt I'll get my chance to get in until at least early September, right in time for the new semester to begin! Who will win, college or PS2... tough question :rofl: See you in game soon mate!
Coreldan
2012-08-03, 01:04 AM
Ok.. It's midnight in finnish time, so hopefully I dont get any sleep on that night then cos I'd be too busy playing Planetside 2.
I've been an active subber for a long time ONLY for this, gonna be really sad if I wont be in the first waves for whatever reason :D
It feels too good to be true to think we're just a few days away from PS2.. I hope there wont be more letdowns and delays.
GOGO SOE!
Okay i got Holidays on Monday and Tuesday
Beerwig
2012-08-03, 01:52 AM
Check your private messages. I had a spare key so sent you it.
Have fun! :D
wow,what a nice person
cellinaire
2012-08-03, 01:53 AM
Smed said in AMA the Beta will start on Monday 99.9% Lolz
Hunterzen
2012-08-03, 02:03 AM
"Yeah, most in fact won't get in Monday." Do you think all the PS1 veterans will have access on monday?
iburnmycd
2012-08-03, 02:31 AM
This is the first time we've actually been given an estimate down to the hour.
SOON has never been so definite as it is now!
Edit: it would be great if we could start downloading the client over the weekend
You should probably put a phone call into your ISP and upgrade from 512kbps DSL before Monday. If you need a weekend to download any game chances are good that you'll be complaining about lag as well.
Chefkoch
2012-08-03, 02:55 AM
Sounds good. Keep it up SOE :)
Coreldan
2012-08-03, 03:00 AM
You should probably put a phone call into your ISP and upgrade from 512kbps DSL before Monday. If you need a weekend to download any game chances are good that you'll be complaining about lag as well.
I got a 1mbit connection myself. To download any modern game, it pretty much takes me the whole day depending on the client size, whether the source I download from gives the file with full speed, etc
However, no game has ever capped my connection while playing it :D
julfo
2012-08-03, 03:06 AM
Speed is not synonymous with latency (thank god :O)
Assuming the client is 8-9GB it'll take me 5ish hours to download. However, I normally get a ping of about 12ms to NA from the UK so I have high hopes.
CatandSpice
2012-08-03, 03:18 AM
Considering there will be thousands of players on each map, I'm pretty confident with my chance of getting a key. As long as they have multiple maps/servers at once. Anyone know how many people applied for the beta?
cellinaire
2012-08-03, 03:26 AM
Interesting. A Korean tester I know of said that this game seems to be well-optimized. He also said(on his computer), PS2 tech-test version runs a bit better than BF3 with both games on full-graphics setting. (with same resolution)
p0intman
2012-08-03, 04:48 AM
Guys.
This will get pushed back until tuesday at 3:30 pm.
Chefkoch
2012-08-03, 04:49 AM
Speed is not synonymous with latency (thank god :O)
Assuming the client is 8-9GB it'll take me 5ish hours to download. However, I normally get a ping of about 12ms to NA from the UK so I have high hopes.
I think its more like 7GB if i take Smeds twitter correct (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45044) ?
the amount of time it takes to deploy a build (7 gig copied to EU data center is NOT immediate despite some "experts" telling me otherwise
Well we will see soon enough.
andehh
2012-08-03, 04:57 AM
Check your private messages. I had a spare key so sent you it.
Have fun! :D
nice one mate! :). Now only wish I had asked the question. :p
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
PS2 will launch in the second or third quarter of 2011..... The beta will start in July..... The beta will start on the 31of July or 1 of August... The beta will start next friday or monday.....
You see a pattern? Smed is good in announcing dates but not in delivering :evil:
We will see it on monday if he can deliver this time.
By the way
Do you have an active sub?
Are you a vet?
Do you have a 'priority' key?
Are you one of the not sold out US players?
Yes? OK, you can hoping further.
No? Forget the date next monday.
Magpie
2012-08-03, 06:19 AM
zzzzzzz they been saying this for a year time to play xbox >.>
Platinumfish
2012-08-03, 06:26 AM
If the Beta is coming out this monday when will those guys who used to play PS 1 be getting their keys?
Kaotc
2012-08-03, 06:30 AM
Speed is not synonymous with latency (thank god :O)
Assuming the client is 8-9GB it'll take me 5ish hours to download. However, I normally get a ping of about 12ms to NA from the UK so I have high hopes.
12ms to NA servers...? how.
igster
2012-08-03, 06:44 AM
12ms from UK to NA - I highly doubt it.
I get approx 10ms to a UK site never mind a NA site.
It will be more like 70-90ms to a North American Server.
The extra 60ms or so will be for transmission times across the Atlantic. Pretty much impossible to get 12ms.
Use http://speedtest.net/ to confirm but 12ms is utter nonsense.
Ping does not depend on how much bandwidth you have. This is pretty much the same ping I had to US when I had ISDN....now I'm on 100Mb and it's almost exactly the same.
Coreldan
2012-08-03, 06:49 AM
There are areas with almost direct lines to the NA. I believe 12ms is possible, but to very few.
Scotsh
2012-08-03, 07:19 AM
There are areas with almost direct lines to the NA. I believe 12ms is possible, but to very few.
No, simple physics.
Distance between London and New York = 5576 km according to http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/London/to/New+York
The speed of light, being the fastet possible speed for the transmission of information is 299792 km/s.
Just for the sake of easier calculation and considering there are shorter distances between other points of the UK and the US:
use distance = 5000km
and
speed of light = 300000km/s.
Then light would travel the distance in 16,6667 ms.
Ergo a ping of 12ms is impossible without disproving the theory of relativity.
IHateMMOs
2012-08-03, 07:28 AM
By now, I've learned not to trust Smed when it comes to dates.
WiteBeam
2012-08-03, 07:32 AM
[–]soapyluggage 19 points 1 hour ago
How long do you think it will take (if everything goes as planned) for everyone who has twitter/PC gamer keys to get in the beta?
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[–]j_smedley[S] 23 points 1 hour ago
maybe as long as 2-3 weeks but it depends on how smoothly things go
Steambot
2012-08-03, 09:39 AM
[–]soapyluggage 19 points 1 hour ago
How long do you think it will take (if everything goes as planned) for everyone who has twitter/PC gamer keys to get in the beta?
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[–]j_smedley[S] 23 points 1 hour ago
maybe as long as 2-3 weeks but it depends on how smoothly things go
Well, shoot.
Sturmhardt
2012-08-03, 09:45 AM
By now, I've learned not to trust Smed when it comes to dates.
Replace "dates" with "everything" and you are better off...
Coreldan
2012-08-03, 10:40 AM
No, simple physics.
Distance between London and New York = 5576 km according to http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/London/to/New+York
The speed of light, being the fastet possible speed for the transmission of information is 299792 km/s.
Just for the sake of easier calculation and considering there are shorter distances between other points of the UK and the US:
use distance = 5000km
and
speed of light = 300000km/s.
Then light would travel the distance in 16,6667 ms.
Ergo a ping of 12ms is impossible without disproving the theory of relativity.
You are probably right, but tbh we are still looking at the same ballpark, be it 12 or even 18ms :D
Lazaruz
2012-08-03, 10:52 AM
Perfect timing! PS1 subscription cycle ends on Wednesday.
NoDachi
2012-08-03, 10:55 AM
No, simple physics.
Distance between London and New York = 5576 km according to http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/London/to/New+York
The speed of light, being the fastet possible speed for the transmission of information is 299792 km/s.
Just for the sake of easier calculation and considering there are shorter distances between other points of the UK and the US:
use distance = 5000km
and
speed of light = 300000km/s.
Then light would travel the distance in 16,6667 ms.
Ergo a ping of 12ms is impossible without disproving the theory of relativity.
You're also forgetting, you're thinking of the speed of light through a vacuum.
The actual real speed of light bouncing down that fiberoptic cable will be much slower, about 35% slower at best. Not to mention additional delays due to equipment switching and the process of encoding and decoding the data onto the fiber.
iburnmycd
2012-08-03, 11:19 AM
No, simple physics.
Distance between London and New York = 5576 km according to http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/London/to/New+York
The speed of light, being the fastet possible speed for the transmission of information is 299792 km/s.
Just for the sake of easier calculation and considering there are shorter distances between other points of the UK and the US:
use distance = 5000km
and
speed of light = 300000km/s.
Then light would travel the distance in 16,6667 ms.
Ergo a ping of 12ms is impossible without disproving the theory of relativity.
Challenge accepted!
Sent from my ADR6400L
Tachyr
2012-08-03, 11:42 AM
You're also forgetting, you're thinking of the speed of light through a vacuum.
The actual real speed of light bouncing down that fiberoptic cable will be much slower, about 35% slower at best. Not to mention additional delays due to equipment switching and the process of encoding and decoding the data onto the fiber.
You're missing some things, ping is round trip, you only accounted for one way.
So theoretical min is about 32ms, practical is much much higher given that the tcp traffic is layer 3 switched which means it is not done in optics but rather in silicon which is much more costly in terms of time.
A regular layer 3 switch hop is a couple of micro seconds and given the infrastructure to get from your home to the server and back you can easily add a substantial amount of time spent in the routing infrastructure.
Snipergirl
2012-08-03, 11:59 AM
Yay! i can't wait to see twitter hate :D cuz of priority key people didn't get it. ha they made a big mistake. they should have started the beta let vet in and then give the priority keys to people. but obviously 80% of players have priority keys. so can't wait to see the hate :D yay. just saying....
If the Beta is coming out this monday when will those guys who used to play PS 1 be getting their keys?
If your a PS1 vet you will not need a key...your PS2 account should magicly activate.
Marinealver
2012-08-03, 01:42 PM
I'll be waiting
Rumblepit
2012-08-03, 02:49 PM
Oh my God, oh my God - Stewie - YouTube
cant wait
RRR X
2012-08-03, 05:42 PM
Check your private messages. I had a spare key so sent you it.
Have fun! :D
I will name my unborn child after you! XD
Sephirex
2012-08-03, 05:49 PM
I will name my unborn child after you! XD
Baby Fizzgig? :eek:
Going to be the coolest kid ever.
Fizzgig
2012-08-03, 06:10 PM
Baby Fizzgig? :eek:
Going to be the coolest kid ever.
I agree! :D
Ruffdog
2012-08-03, 06:41 PM
No, simple physics.
Distance between London and New York = 5576 km according to http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/London/to/New+York
The speed of light, being the fastet possible speed for the transmission of information is 299792 km/s.
Just for the sake of easier calculation and considering there are shorter distances between other points of the UK and the US:
use distance = 5000km
and
speed of light = 300000km/s.
Then light would travel the distance in 16,6667 ms.
Ergo a ping of 12ms is impossible without disproving the theory of relativity.
You meant decimal point not comma after 16 right? Otherwise you are 4 orders of magnitude out:)
And yes this would only cover half the practical journey as mentioned
Oryon22
2012-08-03, 07:03 PM
Europe uses commas instead of periods for decimals.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Coreldan
2012-08-03, 07:08 PM
Europe uses commas instead of periods for decimals.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Except UK I think.
I remember APB had a funny bug where most of it's testers had this "black and white" bug where they could only really get black colour out of the colour pallette. It was cos the game was coded for period usage of decimals, thus when European language OSs tried to input commas, it didnt recognize the value and just gave you black.
It took them friggging ages to trace the problem lol.
KnifeGun
2012-08-03, 07:27 PM
Except UK I think.
I remember APB had a funny bug where most of it's testers had this "black and white" bug where they could only really get black colour out of the colour pallette. It was cos the game was coded for period usage of decimals, thus when European language OSs tried to input commas, it didnt recognize the value and just gave you black.
It took them friggging ages to trace the problem lol.
That is some funny shit.
Captain
2012-08-03, 07:58 PM
I know people are playing now because one is a friend so what is the difference from this beta on now??
Crator
2012-08-03, 08:00 PM
The people who are currently playing? They are part of the Tech Test. The next phase is closed beta...
Rivenshield
2012-08-03, 08:38 PM
Sweet! Looking forward to not getting an invite and waiting another month or two!
Very possibly.
I am beginning to devoutly wish Smed would just keep his big mouth shut.
WiteBeam
2012-08-03, 08:43 PM
I know people are playing now because one is a friend so what is the difference from this beta on now??
A little over 1300 people are in the tech test now that started mid last month. Its beta by another name.
Harvuster
2012-08-03, 08:58 PM
So can anyone confirm that if we haven't received a beta invite yet that we are not gonna be playing on monday?
Littleman
2012-08-03, 10:07 PM
So can anyone confirm that if we haven't received a beta invite yet that we are not gonna be playing on monday?
Pretty sure invites will go out Monday. Come to think of it, they said beta starts at 2 pm PST right? They might send out invites in the morning, even allow downloading, though that's asking for a lot really.
Ruffdog
2012-08-04, 10:37 AM
Pretty sure invites will go out Monday. Come to think of it, they said beta starts at 2 pm PST right? They might send out invites in the morning, even allow downloading, though that's asking for a lot really.
That would be good.
*If* I get in, I'll be downloading all night. 2pm PDT = 10pm UK time. Slightly more hopeful this time but expectations are tempered.
Boards are gonna go batshit crazy on Monday though in spite of Duke's threads.
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