via Smed: PlanetSide 2 will be on Steam

[Hamma]

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/231590853695660032

Planetside 2 will be on Steam. Yes it will

[polywomple]

woah, interesting news.

Honestly wasn't expecting this

I wonder what impact this will have on hackers?

[Pentinor]

Schweeeeeeet...love steam integration. Tho I know everyone doesn't so I hope they have an option for people to download/update/play/etc without steam.

Edit: It's probably a safe bet that they do.

[Serotriptomine]

****** yesssssssssss!!!!!!!!

[kleril]

Awesome news. Is there an ETA for this happening? I wouldn't expect it during the beta, but would it happen on the day v 1.0 rolls out?

[Looopy]

TF2esque steam work shop integration to suggest cosmetics etc. /crossesfingers

[Hamma]

Awesome news. Is there an ETA for this happening? I wouldn't expect it during the beta, but would it happen on the day v 1.0 rolls out?

This is literally the first time we have heard this, so no clue what an ETA would look like.

[Serotriptomine]

He hinted about this last night.
"Will there be a steam workshop type of community driven~etc"

"Soon, very soon indeed" or something like that.

I can't be bothered to look it up.

[MegaBusta]

I like it!

[Sledgecrushr]

I have been a steam user for about seven years now and I love it. Steam just gets better every year.

[Baneblade]

I wonder how many people are going to wait for it to be on sale.

[BadDogEDN]

@polywomple lol i'm in your sig

[OnexBigxHebrew]

I wonder how many people are going to wait for it to be on sale.

:lol:

[Katanauk]

This is great news! Steam is sure to increase the volume of people trying the game. :)

[avpmaster]

VAC instead of punkbuster pls

[sumo]

punkbuster suck balls. never anything but trouble with that piece of poo.

[camycamera]

yay! i love steam! this will be sweet :D

[adddemon]

woah, interesting news.

Honestly wasn't expecting this

I wonder what impact this will have on hackers?

Nothing, probably. Unless its exclusively on steam, it being on steam shouldn't change anything.

[camycamera]

punkbuster suck balls. never anything but trouble with that piece of poo.

can someone please explain what is wrong with punkbuster? i know what it is, but people hate it, and i don't know why.

the only reason i hate (a very, tiny, tiny bit) it is because it (very rarely) used to kick me out of bf2142 servers, but apart from that, i don't have a problem with it.

[Vanath]

There is a very long thread about why people dislike it. Just do a search in this forum for Punkbuster.

[Turdicus]

I wonder how many people are going to wait for it to be on sale.

Haha thanks for the laugh

[camycamera]

punkbuster suck balls. never anything but trouble with that piece of poo.

can someone please explain what is wrong with punkbuster? i know what it is, but people hate it, and i don't know why.

the only reason i hate (a very, tiny, tiny bit) it is because it (very rarely) used to kick me out of bf2142 servers, but apart from that, i don't have a problem with it.

[Brusi]

I wonder how many people are going to wait for it to be on sale.

LOL!!!

i would expect that they will make it pretty obvious that it is F2P

[lMABl]

Awesome!

[Pyreal]

This is great news! Steam is sure to increase the volume of people trying the game. :)

Heck yeah! :D

I've been using Steam for a long while now and I really enjoy it.

1^ here

[IHateMMOs]

Should I be happy or mad?

[QuantumMechanic]

This is going to be a great move on SOE's part. Many steam users *never* miss a free download.

[deltase]

Dont like steam! It makes games which i should run properly to run with frame losses. (and i've tested it!) But it's not a big biggie cause i'm 99% sure the game will be available from SOE site without steam.

[opticalshadow]

can someone please explain what is wrong with punkbuster? i know what it is, but people hate it, and i don't know why.

the only reason i hate (a very, tiny, tiny bit) it is because it (very rarely) used to kick me out of bf2142 servers, but apart from that, i don't have a problem with it.

its an out of date system that is easily circumvented and normally causes more problems for legit players then it does cheaters.


in short it does its job only so well as it needs to so that it can be called an anti-cheat. (in the same way a mcdonalds fry cook can be called a cook)

[MacXXcaM]

Great news!

[damijin]

I have been playing a ton of CS:GO beta since I'm not in the PS2 one yet, and might not be for a while -- but there are many of us playing that and waiting for Planetside. I hope I get a bunch of friends from CS:GO to check it out.

The most important thing to me is the fact that people will get that little popup - "damijin is playing Planetside 2", or you'll see your friends little tags pop up. It's fantastic for the long life of an F2P game, because people get bored, dont play for a few months, then one day you're on steam and you see your buddy is playing Planetside 2, and you're like "Yeah, I could go for some Planetside!"

[Deezy]

I remember making http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=43639 this thread, and had a couple naysayers in regards to the game being on steam. Somehow I knew it was going to happen. Why? 'cause I'm fucking psychic, that's why.:cool:

[HeatLegend]

Awesome!

Agreed! But I have to say, I can't take your signature seriously after hearing that Faction Song.

"... We are Tomarrow..."

:D

[dafuq]

good decision
steam ensures a high number of ppl playing

seeing Ps2 under the top 10 here http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?snr=1_4_4__10
will attract alot of ppl

but the competition is hard, as you can see.. dota 2: 72k ppl playing

[lMABl]

Agreed! But I have to say, I can't take your signature seriously after hearing that Faction Song.

"... We are Tomarrow..."

:D Haha It does get stuck in your head, I swear, I'll never hear the factions slogans in any other voices than the ones that song portrayed! :lol:

[haticK]

I thought this was pretty obvious a long time ago. It would make no sense whatsoever to not use Steam.

[andehh]

Great news! :D

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[Xaine]

Good stuff.

[Coreldan]

Good to hear. I love Steam.

[noodz]

Awesome news!

F2P game + steam publicity = customers!!

[Ninjacalypse]

woah, interesting news.

Honestly wasn't expecting this

I wonder what impact this will have on hackers?

Just because it's on Steam doesn't necessarily or even probably mean it will use Valve's Anti-Cheat.

[Coreldan]

It's very very unlikely it would use VAC. Most games on Steam dont.

[Elahhez]

I approve of this news! <3

[Solidblock]

Good move, everyone loves Steam. Anybody who doesn't hates kittens and mankind.

[KALU]

This is massive news!!

Pops are going to be insane.

I hope you have enough servers SOE..:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[EisenKreutzer]

I massively approve of this. Especially since it will make buying currency that much easier.

[ITOS]

I massively approve of this. Especially since it will make buying currency that much easier.

You sure about this? I wonder how this will integrate with the Pro7 deal.

[EisenKreutzer]

You sure about this? I wonder how this will integrate with the Pro7 deal.

Most games that use a currency system have integrated their service with Steam, allowing you to spend from your Steam wallet or purchase currency directly via the Steam browser.

[maddoggg]

I am seriosly not a big steam fan.......
But aslong as i long have to run steam on the background,i am fine with this.

[Volken]

Wait, wait wait wait, that means we are going to be able to play with our steam account?

If so, no more Pro7 issues?

<3 steam

[AThreatToYou]

Wait, wait wait wait, that means we are going to be able to play with our steam account?

If so, no more Pro7 issues?

<3 steam

No, it doesn't. All we can know this means for certain is that PlanetSide 2 will be available for download over Steam with the bare minimum of Steam community features.

[Xyntech]

Cool. Good advertising. More players to shoot.

[Carnage]

I love steam, I often chose what games I will bother trying based on if they are on steam... I approve of this News.

[MCYRook]

I wonder how this will integrate with the Pro7 deal.
So do I.

[Astrok]

Probably the game uses a gamelauncher like the most games these days,so if u start it up in steam u get the planetside 2 launcher and when u have to login it asks u with what account u want to log in (with the SOE one or the PRO 7 one).Or even the dont have a account?Register here.

[bjorntju1]

Awesome, I love steam.

[Rago]

WHAT ? !
So do we really need a Pro7 Launcher in Europe ?

[dafuq]

WHAT ? !
So do we really need a Pro7 Launcher in Europe ?

no u will need an angela merkel launcher, everytime when u start it u automatically pay 1€ to greece



there is no pro7 launcher LOL


all u do is register at their site once it launches and done..

[ArmedZealot]

There any way an SOE account can be tied to a Steam ID in such a way that if someone is banned from PS2 for hacking they might potentially have their Steam ID banned as well?

I'd love for PS2 to launch straight from Steam as well, but I doubt that is going to happen. We'll just have to use that to launch another launcher.

[WarChimp130]

Wonderful news, this will make it accessible to a much wider audience.

[dafuq]

There any way an SOE account can be tied to a Steam ID in such a way that if someone is banned from PS2 for hacking they might potentially have their Steam ID banned as well?

I'd love for PS2 to launch straight from Steam as well, but I doubt that is going to happen. We'll just have to use that to launch another launcher.

steam does not ban steam accounts for hacking
they only ban your access to the game

and since it does not use VAC steam doesnt care

[ArmedZealot]

steam does not ban steam accounts for hacking
they only ban your access to the game

This is what I was trying to mean.

[dafuq]

This is what I was trying to mean.

"and since it does not use VAC steam doesnt care"


+

steam has nothing to do with planetside accounts at all
they only let you download it at steam so u can track time, achievements, and such stuff

[Shadowrath]

Not sure whether to be happy or sad.

[dafuq]

Through all the time we've been waiting for this game, to me this morning has been the most awesome morning for news! Solid ability for people to get into beta on day one, PS2 going to steam, I wish I could wake up every morning and hear good news like this :)



Yes sir VAC does effect you when using steam for ANY game. SOE can use PB as one method and VAC Can ( and should ) be used for another form of anti cheat.



SOE distributing through steam is an awesome move. "free" (not free at all) PR, millions of people who had not seen it's name will see it under the F2P genre listings, it will also be one of the best F2P games so it will always stay at the top of the list for those who are searching for a new F2P. SOE using steam was absolutely 120% the right move.


no it does not

rofl

[AbysmalMax]

Great News. Was hoping for this!

[dafuq]

okay.


why would VAC affect me when its not even used in a game as anti cheat?

tell me please..



still laughing


here, have a look, they even list the game with vac2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat

[dafuq]

So that means it's impossible to intergrate right? Or if you are running CE while steam is on it won't flag your account? So it installs the game into program files(x86) right? VAC isn't just a server bound anti cheat software. I won't get into it because I don't feel like arguing but it most certainly has a factor on ANY game you have installed via steam.



you have no clue at all :D

http://www.dudelol.com/img/cant-argue-with-that.jpg

[EisenKreutzer]

Not sure whether to be happy or sad.

Then take a chance and be happy! :D

[NePaS]

Yes sir VAC does effect you when using steam for ANY game. SOE can use PB as one method and VAC Can ( and should ) be used for another form of anti cheat.


No.VAC only bans for games on that engine(cheat on one source game and all source engine games are banned)It is engine specific only.

[Oryon22]

This is good news indeed! I was not expecting this.

[opticalshadow]

its good for the game, it willg et players. but ill dl it though soe, i really hate steam doesnt let me move around files that dont need to be shared and i need to install PS2 elsewhere.

[Hamma]

I look at this as a positive thing. This will allow us to have the massive in MMOFPS.

[Crator]

The more advertising the better. And using Steam to do this is a great idea! SOE has other titles on Steam too (EQ II and DC Universe).

[Top Sgt]

I'll still download it directly from SOE while it's good for advertising i'm not a big fan of steam myself.

Also this is not a valve game engine so VAC is not a factor in this at all.

Homefront was a PB game available through steam and it was over run and killed in less than a week total on PC.

[Arcsilver]

Very interesting. I have a LOT of friends who scavenge every corner of steam looking for free games.

If i have a choice i will download planetside 2 from the website. I would hate to have to start up steam just for every update or something

[Drakkonan]

Very good news. This was the last major hurdle, provided the designers don't screw up the game in the time left.

I have a feeling we'll be seeing very large queues on day 1...which, despite common belief, is necessary.

[RovingDeath]

Will this have any effect on microtransactions? Many of us have already bought Station Cash during one sale or another, but Steam has its own currency. Will this mean competition or will we all be going through the same source?

[dafuq]

Will this have any effect on microtransactions? Many of us have already bought Station Cash during one sale or another, but Steam has its own currency. Will this mean competition or will we all be going through the same source?

STEAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLANETSIDE

except that u can DL it there and maybe get achievements

[Coreldan]

Except you most likely wont be able to even download it from there, if it just downloads you the launcher x)

[AzureWatcher]

Hooray for Steam! =D

Great news.

[EvilBeegee]

no u will need an angela merkel launcher, everytime when u start it u automatically pay 1€ to greece



there is no pro7 launcher LOL


all u do is register at their site once it launches and done..

This is incorrect. EU players will need a different launcher than US players (the Pro7 launcher) just like with DCUO. When I converted my DCUO account to Pro7, it made me download the game again and no longer works with Steam.
So how this affects EU players is a valid question.

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[Marinealver]

GOD WHY SELL OUT TO VALVE?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/shaam/Steam_Update.gif
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/2/26/Steam.gif

[Poser]

GOD WHY SELL OUT TO VALVE?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/shaam/Steam_Update.gif
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/2/26/Steam.gif

That gif is at least a decade old.... :rolleyes:

[Gugabalog]

Woo! Steam!

[Marinealver]

That gif is at least a decade old.... :rolleyes:

yeah but that dosn't mean that their service has gotten any better. I still had issues since now more and more games are comming out on steam. (DOW2) had some downloading problems before I was able to get them resolved.

and other things.... once bitten....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYjkUJskZzM&feature=plcp

[Hamma]

That gif is at least a decade old.... :rolleyes:

Indeed :lol:

I'll DL direct from SOE as well, but overall this is good for player count.

[Sifer2]

That gif is at least a decade old.... :rolleyes:


Yeah I remember that ancient puke green color Steam use to have. The memories. Service has come a long ways since then.

For Planetside 2 I don't imagine it will do much besides advertisement. Possibly they will sell a Steam starter pack or something like Tribes Ascend.

[TheRandomAmiba]

wow i dont really know if this is good or bad

[opticalshadow]

it will be like all the other 3rd party f2p on steam. you will dl it on steam, and when you launch it it launches teh games launcher, steam will be just a front, a place lots of people will see it. likely steam users will have certian deals you can buy though steam.

[Atheosim]

wow i dont really know if this is good or bad

I can't imagine a single way that this could possibly be bad. Can you? Honestly.

[haticK]

i wonder if they will do in-game item sets like tribes ascend where you can buy them cheaper off steam

[Ieyasu]

good to hear as I like steam and it is sure to help with how many people are exposed to the game.

[FastAndFree]

My exagerated take on the news

http://s16.postimage.org/um9lo6bit/PS_2_on_steam.png

[Minigun]

Best move they've made to distribute the game IMO. SOOOOOOO many people will play the game now.

Who hasn't tried at least one of steams F2P games simply because it was free? People will eat this shit up.

Good call SOE

[PvtHazard]

Now this is really some awesome news!

[Meatballs]

Oh man that's going to bring in HUGE amounts of players.

@Hamma - If we get into the beta, are we allowed to run the game through steam as a non-steam game or does that break the NDA?

[Ninjacalypse]

There any way an SOE account can be tied to a Steam ID in such a way that if someone is banned from PS2 for hacking they might potentially have their Steam ID banned as well?

I'd love for PS2 to launch straight from Steam as well, but I doubt that is going to happen. We'll just have to use that to launch another launcher.

Being banned from a game on Steam doesn't ban someone from all their Steam games. Even being VAC banned doesn't mean your whole account gets banned.

While cheaters may be unsavory sure, think for a moment about how dumb that sounds. Steam hosts a large number of 3rd party games.

[stordito]

i'm double happy because:
1- A lot of people will at least try the game once
2- Greedy EA and their shitty origin store have another reason to be finally deleted from my hdd and be forgotten forever.

[AzureWatcher]

i'm double happy because:
1- A lot of people will at least try the game once
2- Greedy EA and their shitty origin store have another reason to be finally deleted from my hdd and be forgotten forever.

I'll be doing that Monday when I no longer have a reason to play Battlefield 3.

[Tatwi]

Given the major revision they did to launchpad recently, for all SOE products, I would imagine that putting the game on Steam is a marketing thing, not a content delivery solution. SOE's Launchpad works great and also functions with the authenticator key chain.

[Xzi]

Awesome. I like having all of my digitally purchased games in one place. It makes sense with all the other SoE games on there.

[Missundaztood]

It's hard to believe that not long ago Planetside, was dead!

Now, it has a fancy triple A CGI, an enthusiastic development team and now a spot on Steam? I never once thought this would happen!

This is great news!

[opticalshadow]

It's hard to believe that not long ago Planetside, was dead!

Now, it has a fancy triple A CGI, an enthusiastic development team and now a spot on Steam? I never once thought this would happen!

This is great news!

i still find it hard to believe planetside even happend.

when the game launched in 03, it was an idea far ahead of its time.

[Flaropri]

Honestly wasn't expecting this

Huh, it doesn't surprise me much, SOE has most of their large F2P titles on Steam these days. I do hope that there will still be a non-Steam client for those that don't like the program (like most SOE games already).

[The Loverator]

Steam is " a stupid Piece of Sh** " full of Errors and Bugs sometimes if you ask me,
but okay. I admit it is a worthy Protection against Hackers and a necessary Ill.

Better a stupid Onlineplatform which makes countless Troubles over a long Time instead of a Game you can't play at all,
'cause Hackers have transformed it into a Pile of Sh... ... : 3



greetings, LV. :wave:

[Coreldan]

The game being on Steam will have zero effect in terms of cheaters, except there will probably be more due to the game being more promoted as well.

VAC will not be used, 99% sure about that regardless it being on Steam.

[Baneblade]

I'll be doing that Monday when I no longer have a reason to play Battlefield 3.

You don't have a reason to play BF3 today.

[Serotriptomine]

Smedley has already said that VAC will not be used.

[UnDeAdKiTtY]

Don't worry about what anti cheating stuff they are using just focus on whats coming up, hacking will be dealt with. SOE makes great games I'm sure they have a solution.

Start practicing your FPS skillz and get ready for beta.

[Serotriptomine]

Speaking of honing skills. I find it easier to jump into a game having not played any FPS games before hand for quite some time. It's easier to pick something up rather than switching over to something. :groovy:

[Wothan]

Steam Pros:

1: More of an audience to try a F2P! game they have never heard of.
2: Ease of access because a lot of people let it run at start up.
3: Word of mouth through fellow steam users to try the game.
4: Endless reasons

Cons:

1: (fill in the blanks please, I want to hear the cons of this).

Some people hate it, because allegedly is full of bugs and is a "pos"
I personally never had any problem with steam at all, and nor do I know of someone that had it and this on about 5 years or so of use

Steam is the best digital distribution platform nowadays the others being leagues behind it (games for windows live and origins are atrocious)

[IMMentat]

Yay.
Its the de-facto standard for online game service for a reason, in sales (both selling and reductions), support and scope it's still the best and most frequently updated.
It also puts the login on the front-end then lets you game without interruption (unlike every one of its competition).

Glad SOE is doing the sensible thing and working with the industry leader.
EA went for its rip-off origin sytem and pissed off players, Ubisoft? did the same and I can't consider GFWL to be a distribution system it's just a forced log-in after loading up a game you own (with horrible server reliability and zero support options).

[Crator]

yeah but that dosn't mean that their service has gotten any better. I still had issues since now more and more games are comming out on steam. (DOW2) had some downloading problems before I was able to get them resolved.

and other things.... once bitten....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYjkUJskZzM&feature=plcp

I've had my Steam account closed for some reason in the past. I didn't do anything wrong that I know of and Steam support wouldn't give me details as to why they closed my account. I had very few games purchased via Steam at the time so it didn't affect me too much. Due to what happened to me in the past, I will typically try and purchase games outside of Steam. But PS2 is F2P so you don't have to worry about that. In fact, you don't have to worry about anything Steam related because I'm pretty sure the SOE Launchpad is installed outside of the Steam client meaning you don't have to start the Steam client to start the Launchpad. Could be wrong though.

[ChipMHazard]

Steam Pros:

1: More of an audience to try a F2P! game they have never heard of.
2: Ease of access because a lot of people let it run at start up.
3: Word of mouth through fellow steam users to try the game.
4: Endless reasons..... (Let's not worship Steam like a diety, shall we?)

Cons:

1: SOE has to pay Valve a cut, from sales most likely.

There you go.
Other than that it's a choice not a mandate so there aren't any drawbacks which would effect players.

Edit: I could list why I do not like digital distribution, digital rights management services in general but that's not what you asked for.

[Baneblade]

I still think it is evil to buy a box in a store and have to run Steam to play it. Totally ridiculous. I don't buy games that do that.

[opticalshadow]

I still think it is evil to buy a box in a store and have to run Steam to play it. Totally ridiculous. I don't buy games that do that.

i cant imagine thats how ps2 will do it. no other f2p game on steam that valve doesnt own launches off steam, steam launches teh launcher for teh game, which you could yourself just do with the game shortcut.

steam is just going to be advertising to millions of players.

[JoeDragon]

It won't have a negative impact on PS2. Tons of F2P games are also available through steam, but not dependent on it. Like others have said, it's purely for advertising.

I personally love Steam and i'm hoping for tons of Steamchievements and looking forward to keeping track of just how many hours I play PS2. :P The in game chat options are also pretty great.

[Baneblade]

i cant imagine thats how ps2 will do it. no other f2p game on steam that valve doesnt own launches off steam, steam launches teh launcher for teh game, which you could yourself just do with the game shortcut.

steam is just going to be advertising to millions of players.

I know that won't be the case with PS2.

[Kipper]

I still think it is evil to buy a box in a store and have to run Steam to play it. Totally ridiculous. I don't buy games that do that.

Buy a what? In a where? :)

[Jeepo]

Damn, I am going to want it on Steam, but I am going to want it on my SSD. Steam is on my regular HDD. Guess I better look into Steam mover!

[Salad Snake]

I feel like I stepped back into 2002 with some of this steam hate. I've had steam for about the past six years, never ran into problem with it. Some of the games, yes, but that's the fault of the game's devs and not steam itself. Updates and the like have always gone smoothly for me. It's probably the most reliable platform for digital distribution out there, I can cite a number of times I've had problems with Origin, iTunes, Zune for my phone....but not Steam.


The most important thing to me is the fact that people will get that little popup - "damijin is playing Planetside 2", or you'll see your friends little tags pop up. It's fantastic for the long life of an F2P game, because people get bored, dont play for a few months, then one day you're on steam and you see your buddy is playing Planetside 2, and you're like "Yeah, I could go for some Planetside!"

Exactly, I got two friends to try Blacklight just because they kept seeing me play it on their friend notifications and got curious. You can't always depend on consumers being smart and finding good products (like PS) on their own, but you CAN count on them following their friends, at least to a "try out" extent. We just have to get a snowball effect rolling just like LoL had over the past year or so (nowadays I hear people who don't even game on PC otherwise becoming loyal League fans, it's breached the mainstream and pop culture).

[DownloadFailed]

Great news! I'm always trying to get my friend to try new games, but he's a Steam-only kind of PC gamer so anything that isn't supported is a no-go. Also hoping for what was posted before: Steam Workshop for PS2 where players submit new cosmetic ideas.

[Sunrock]

woah, interesting news.

Honestly wasn't expecting this

I wonder what impact this will have on hackers?

Not an impact at all.

[megamold]

Not an impact at all.

i would disagree somewhat, the game being on steam will not make it impervious to hackers, but i do know that a part of the community that enjoys hacking games also respects steam ( and their own steam accounts )
so it will not stop hackers in any way; but i do think some of the less "hardcore" hackers will pass on hacking a steam game.

and i'm sure its been said already but : having ps2 on steam will make sure there are alot more players and gives the game good visibility since many people consider steam the "dashboard" of their pc's
having the game on steam also does not mean that you MUST have steam, this is also true for games such as blacklight ( wich is surprisingly good for some reason )

[Shogun]

big and right move for a f2p game!

so this time nothing can go wrong regarding to advertising!

SOE really got the advertising covered this time!

i also hate to buy a game and have to install something like steam or origin to play it, but this isn´t the case here. it´s just another distribution method with a great advertising concept.

and exposure on steam will smack PLANETSIDE 2 in a lot of faces of people who wouldn´t have noticed the game otherwise

[Sturmhardt]

i would disagree somewhat, the game being on steam will not make it impervious to hackers, but i do know that a part of the community that enjoys hacking games also respects steam ( and their own steam accounts )
so it will not stop hackers in any way; but i do think some of the less "hardcore" hackers will pass on hacking a steam game.

and i'm sure its been said already but : having ps2 on steam will make sure there are alot more players and gives the game good visibility since many people consider steam the "dashboard" of their pc's
having the game on steam also does not mean that you MUST have steam, this is also true for games such as blacklight ( wich is surprisingly good for some reason )

Cheaters will just use the non-steam version, so it won't have an impact on that.

Also, everyone stop calling them hackers, they are not hackers, they don't hack anything, they just use cheating programs they downloaded. They are cheaters.

[megamold]

Cheaters will just use the non-steam version, so it won't have an impact on that.

Also, everyone stop calling them hackers, they are not hackers, they don't hack anything, they just use cheating programs they downloaded. They are cheaters.

well yeah, but the knowledge that a game is on steam is enough to deter some people ( and i say SOME people , by no means am i saying that 80% of cheaters will be gone )

simply because of the status steam has and the fear of some of the "noob" cheaters that they will get their steam accounts locked.

i'm not saying the drop in cheaters will be noticable, but i'm sure it will get rid of some of the more "small fry" cheaters

[Coreldan]

Even if Steam actually would ban something from Steam for being banned on PS2, it has no effect when it's a F2P game. Even the "noob cheaters" could just create new Steam accs to cheat on them every time. Nobody would use their main accs if there was a risk of having it all banned.

[megamold]

Even if Steam actually would ban something from Steam for being banned on PS2, it has no effect when it's a F2P game. Even the "noob cheaters" could just create new Steam accs to cheat on them every time. Nobody would use their main accs if there was a risk of having it all banned.

you asume that all people have knowledge of this and how the system works

a 10 year old that has no clue what he is doing and just looks up cheats ( or cheat programs in this case ) is not gonna know about any of this, and thus be deterred by the game being in steam.

just because we know how the system works and consider it simple and easy, does not mean that everyone has this knowledge.

as i said : small fry cheaters

[Coreldan]

To be honest, those people wont be the problem anyways. The free cheats the 10 year old would google up would probably be detected immediately. The problems are the "premium cheats" that cost so that they keep updating them all the time to avoid detection or private cheats that arnt public even for money.

[megamold]

To be honest, those people wont be the problem anyways. The free cheats the 10 year old would google up would probably be detected immediately. The problems are the "premium cheats" that cost so that they keep updating them all the time to avoid detection or private cheats that arnt public even for money.

true, in any case the game being on steam is not going the make the game more appealing to cheaters wich is a good thing imho.

[Baneblade]

Even after all this time, I still don't understand why people cheat.

[Astrok]

Even after all this time, I still don't understand why people cheat.

well those same people vote obama as president...:lol::rofl::lol:

[ChipMHazard]

well those same people vote obama as president...:lol::rofl::lol:

... .... ... Huh?

[Salad Snake]

well those same people vote obama as president...:lol::rofl::lol:

Or, you know, believe Bush actually won his election.

[greenberetdelta]

Or, you know, believe Bush actually won his election.

this +1

[Bags]

That feel wehn the direction of this thread

[Hunterzen]

well those same people vote obama as president...:lol::rofl::lol:

Faux news is calling you it's time to put your tin foil hat on.

[Mr DeCastellac]

Huh. I guess we can use VAC then? SO much better than punkbuster.

[Salad Snake]

Huh. I guess we can use VAC then? SO much better than punkbuster.

Unfortunately no according to devs, though has the game been confirmed to use PB?

[megamold]

oh lawd, retarded us politics sighted, preparing to abandon thread.

[MrBloodworth]

Here is how I hope they implement and work with Valve.

Personally, I am sick of games on steam that when you hit play, ask you to log in again, or launch, a launcher. It needs to stop.


When I launch Planetside from steam, I want a one time association to my SOE account.
No SOE launcher, launched.
It needs to use the steam wallet. Work it out Valve and SOE.
Patches to the game need not be delayed by steam/valve.
Full integration of "Join game/server" in friends options.
Full overlay integration.


Take a look at games like Spiral knights and how its fully integrated with steam, its services. Spiral knights also have a non/steam version, so its doable.

[Goku]

Here is how I hope they implement and work with Valve.

Personally, I am sick of games on steam that when you hit play, ask you to log in again, or launch, a launcher. It needs to stop.


When I launch Planetside from steam, I want a one time association to my SOE account.
No SOE launcher, launched.
It needs to use the steam wallet. Work it out Valve and SOE.
Patches to the game need not be delayed by steam/valve.
Full integration of "Join game/server" in friends options.
Full overlay integration.


Take a look at games like Spiral knights and how its fully integrated with steam, its services. Spiral knights also have a non/steam version, so its doable.

That would be the way to go IMO.

[MrBloodworth]

That would be the way to go IMO.

Yeah, but with to many games, its not the way they went. :D

Looking at you EA and about 50 other games. >:|

Also, GFWL eats children.

[Xyntech]

Yeah, seeing PS2 become fully integrated with steam (while also having a non steam version for people who don't like steam) would be awesome.

I'll probably use the steam version anyways, regardless. If they hadn't offered it on steam I would probably just play the non steam version through steam for the overlay. But having better integration would be great.

[The Kush]

Or, you know, believe Bush actually won his election.

+1

Or the people who think the federal reserve is a government entity. In reality the federal reserve is no more federal then federal express. Yet they get to create our money and loan it to our government at interest. The founding fathers would be disgusted by this idea, they set up a system where we print our own current but of course the big private bankers didn't like the idea of not making money off us.

Anyways back on topic haha..

I hope steam brings as many players as everyone thinks it will

[MrBloodworth]

Stop with the politics bullshit.

[brighthand]

My experience with steam has been nothing but great. Add to the fact that it comes from Valve who unlike EA, aren't trying to grab my nuts and crrrUsh them with their vicious talons.

If all goes well with PS2 -and it looks like it will all go well, I will be removing that cancer of a software application that is Origin, and battlefield 3, to the sound of trumpets and harps.

[SixShooter]

I think this is great! I don't use Staem but I think the more exposure that PS2 can get will good for all of us.

[Rico Suave]

This is a terrible idea. You're going to break steam with all the traffic.

*sarcasm*

[Salad Snake]

This is a terrible idea. You're going to break steam with all the traffic.

No offense to Valve, but it would be a resounding success for us (and SoE) if this managed to happen. Doubtful though, Steam has handled a lot of big launches before, their servers are pretty sturdy.

[Fanglord]

Yus, <3 me some steam; plus I always find steam clients download faster than the non steam counterpart (eg blacklight took 3 hours through the perfect world server, 1 hour through steam)

[NePaS]

This is a terrible idea. You're going to break steam with all the traffic.

With how much they milk from devs AND customers in the same day,they can afford to upgrade their bandwidth.

[Bags]

With how much they milk from devs AND customers in the same day,they can afford to upgrade their bandwidth.

I picked up 8 games for $30 on the summer sale, and have never paid full price for a game via steam.

I'm wondering how they milk their customers?

[SFxBA]

No offense to Valve, but it would be a resounding success for us (and SoE) if this managed to happen. Doubtful though, Steam has handled a lot of big launches before, their servers are pretty sturdy.

Think this is spot on and I totally agree.

I will also say that when steam first came out I just didn't get it and I am sad that I didn't b/c I think it is an awesome service. Live and learn.

[Carnage]

I picked up 8 games for $30 on the summer sale, and have never paid full price for a game via steam.

I'm wondering how they milk their customers?

this is how in Australia;
Skyrim Steam - $89.95 @ launch
Skyrim @ Ozgameshop.com - $45 @ launch
I like steam but I don't often buy the games on steam.

[andehh]

i'm double happy because:
1- A lot of people will at least try the game once
2- Greedy EA and their shitty origin store have another reason to be finally deleted from my hdd and be forgotten forever.

YES and YES!

Huge huge (2 million+) audience and it sticks it to EA and Origin!

Win win :D

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

[BillyBob]

VAC instead of punkbuster pls

Couldn't agree more.

/BB

[Ivam Akorahil]

My experience with steam has been nothing but great. Add to the fact that it comes from Valve who unlike EA, aren't trying to grab my nuts and crrrUsh them with their vicious talons.

If all goes well with PS2 -and it looks like it will all go well, I will be removing that cancer of a software application that is Origin, and battlefield 3, to the sound of trumpets and harps.

your speaking my mind there

[lawnmower]

+1

this +1

Or, you know, believe Bush actually won his election.

source, clowns?

[Salad Snake]

source, clowns?

Scalia stopping the recount and invalidating it doesn't throw up a red flag for you? A Florida mogul bragging that he helped get Bush elected in means that "may not have been legal" doesn't also seem a bit fishy? What more do you need really? Besides, Gore won the popular vote, so you can't say the will of the people wasn't with him.

Regardless of whether you agree with Obama or not, you can't argue that he isn't just as, if not more legitimately president than Bush. Its kinda ridiculous the people that defended Bush's election then need to see a guy's birth certificate 20 billion times.

This is getting OT, if you make a thread in the appropriate section I'll gladly discuss politics with you, but for now we should be taking about Steam.



Anyway....do you think they'll be steam achievements? If so, what will they be? I hope that there are faction-based achieves for taking X amount of bases from each army, or playing X hours as a faction. Something more creative than "get 1000 kills".

[NEWSKIS]

People seem to be assuming a lot with this unless there's some info I missed. He said it would be on Steam and nothing more. We have no idea if that just means you can get the launcher from Steam and that's it or if it will have any steam integration in part or as a whole. Going through this thread, most people are assuming its going to be fully steam integrated with not much info to even point in that direction. Until there's more info there is no point in bitching about steam or vac or whatever.

[Spiah]

He said it would be on Steam and nothing more. We have no idea if that just means you can get the launcher from Steam and that's it or if it will have any steam integration in part or as a whole.
When a game is available through steam it is steam integrated. That's kind of the point, and one of the main features of the DRM.

I'd assume Planetside 2 would be the same as the other games on the platform; having the overlay available, as well as everything else such as screenshots, play time and a section on the Steam Forums. Of course, nothing is for certain, but when a game will be "available on steam," I'd expect it to have the steamcommunity features available that we take for granted on every other game.

For a comparison, Blacklight: Retribution is available on as well as off of steam. When you use the steam version you get the overlay as well as achievements. Off of steam, it's just the plain old game. One thing I did notice is that the game isn't tied to steam's DRM, meaning you can launch the .exe outside of steam. I'd assume Planetside 2 would be similar, as it is also an f2p game, but I have no idea if PS2 will have integrated achievements. I love them though, so I hope so.

[lawnmower]

Scalia stopping the recount and invalidating it doesn't throw up a red flag for you? A Florida mogul bragging that he helped get Bush elected in means that "may not have been legal" doesn't also seem a bit fishy? What more do you need really?
how is this proof? also source

Besides, Gore won the popular vote, so you can't say the will of the people wasn't with him.
in what world is this relevant to winning the us election? perhaps you should read up on it?

[Salad Snake]

how is this proof? also source


Make a thread in the OT and I'll provide links. Until then, we've deviated enough from the topic and I'd rather not inconvenience everyone else by getting this thread closed.

[fod]

this is how in Australia;
Skyrim Steam - $89.95 @ launch
Skyrim @ Ozgameshop.com - $45 @ launch
I like steam but I don't often buy the games on steam.

steam is still cheaper than retail in australia

i know bfbc2 was $89 retail in australia pre order but $49 on steam
ozgameshop is pretty cheap but its not australian - if you look them up they are from uk (nothing wrong with that just stating its not an australian shop) nobody rips off australians more than australian retail prices

never buy a game from a shop in australia - NEVER

[FatherJack]

I have used Steam since the beta, I can count the number of problems I have had with it on one hand since that time.

Being on Steam has absolutely zero drawbacks for PS2.

[Liwen Diamond]

Great move overall for SOE. Will give the game even more visibility.

Couldn't care less personnally. Steam or not steam the game will be awesome.

[Mrdante]

steam is still cheaper than retail in australia

i know bfbc2 was $89 retail in australia pre order but $49 on steam
ozgameshop is pretty cheap but its not australian - if you look them up they are from uk (nothing wrong with that just stating its not an australian shop) nobody rips off australians more than australian retail prices

never buy a game from a shop in australia - NEVER

Steam is cheaper then any other business and have summer and winter sales that gotten 75% off most products during those times.

[NePaS]

Steam is cheaper then any other business .
Funny how I can use Gamersgate,D2D or Greenmangaming and buy a steam game from them for less than it sells on steam.

[Zeruel]

Steam is cheaper then any other business and have summer and winter sales that gotten 75% off most products during those times.

This basically depends on your Country. Mostly, EU pays 50€ for a game they could order for 40€ on a disk. The Sales are the best point to buy products, "normal" bought products are usually 10€ more expansive than going to shop and get a physical disk...

[Baneblade]

D2D

Not anymore :(

I miss Impulse when it was all Stardock, GameStop Now isn't bad though.