Twitter holders get in 2-3 weeks from now?

[Micheal Phelpz]

This is kind of sudden, we were told we would get "Earliest access available". I am pretty disappointed at this news.

[haticK]

earliest = after current subs and vets

[Bittermen]

Pretty early if you ask me.

[Fyrn]

The twitter and other give-away invites will likely get in with random selection waves, after vets, subscribers, etc. All you've got was a guarantee, is my best guess.

[leecH]

earliest = after current subs and vets

dont feed the troll :D

[Micheal Phelpz]

dont feed the troll :D

Because the real troll wasnt SOE at all with this current breakthrough.

Not attempting to troll at all, just saddened that we were all (twitter key owners) expecting to play today only to get told "Nope, 2-3 more weeks for you"

[FlyinRabbit]

Yea it's dumb. Why can't they host more servers just for us?

[Syphus]

Because the real troll wasnt SOE at all with this current breakthrough.

Not attempting to troll at all, just saddened that we were all (twitter key owners) expecting to play today only to get told "Nope, 2-3 more weeks for you"

This isn't new news at all, for a few weeks now it's been Active Subs > Anytime Subbed > Priority Keys > Everyone Else

Beyond that though "priority" does not always mean "first" it just means before some people.

[greenberetdelta]

are the people who got there keys from pc gamer rolled up with the twitter people?

[Raymac]

This isn't new news at all, for a few weeks now it's been Active Subs > Anytime Subbed > Priority Keys > Everyone Else

Beyond that though "priority" does not always mean "first" it just means before some people.

^This
I know you've been busy with the Olympics and all, Mike, but you do realize, logisitically, that it's impossible to get everyone in on Day 1, right?

are the people who got there keys from pc gamer rolled up with the twitter people?

Yes. They are the same "priority keys"

[NapalmEnima]

are the people who got there keys from pc gamer rolled up with the twitter people?

That's my understanding, yep.

[ArcGuard]

Twitter and PC mag are the same priority. It's been known for quite a while that it is Active > Current > Keys > Register. (NOTICE: This does not mean ALL keys are after current or even Active. Smed has said that some from each group will get in, for technical reasons)

[greenberetdelta]

That's my understanding, yep.

o
Rage guy (Fuuuuuu) - YouTube

[SkarBlade]

This is kind of sudden, we were told we would get "Earliest access available". I am pretty disappointed at this news.

It would still be early access, as some stated, Subscribers, vets get in first and the rest gets in 3 weeks later.

[selmu]

If you wasted your time stalking ppl on twitter to get your key, i have bad news for you...

the key shit is just marketing you have no priority for nothing. After all vets get inside, maybe in 2 -3 week you get chosen to enter, MAYBE.

[leecH]

It would still be early access, as some stated, Subscribers, vets get in first and the rest gets in 3 weeks later.

so we landed on mars but still cant backup our claims with sources?

[PhoenixDog]

Just because you didn't understand news that was released a month ago doesn't mean that SOE has done you wrong. Read the details.

[SkarBlade]

If you wasted your time stalking ppl on twitter to get your key, i have bad news for you...

the key shit is just marketing you have no priority for nothing. After all vets get inside, maybe in 2 -3 week you get chosen to enter, MAYBE.

Even if people don't get in, Open beta will soon follow, it's not the end of the world here. I got my key and it says active but if I don't get a download for the beta in 3 weeks or never get one, ill just wait for the open beta sometimes this year. So right now I am just crossing my fingers and wait my turn.

[kidwithstick]

Theres only about 100,000-200,000 people ahead of you. keep crying.:rolleyes:

[Saintlycow]

Just be patient. I have to.

[SkarBlade]

so we landed on mars but still cant backup our claims with sources?

That is what everybody saying. Vet's and subscribers are the first ones in while everybody else waits. Which could be 3 weeks from now.

[Revanmug]

Because the real troll wasnt SOE at all with this current breakthrough.

Not attempting to troll at all, just saddened that we were all (twitter key owners) expecting to play today only to get told "Nope, 2-3 more weeks for you"

huh, the 2-3 weeks for priority keys is kinda old news. Where have you been?

[selmu]

Even if people don't get in, Open beta will soon follow, it's not the end of the world here. I got my key and it says active but if I don't get a download for the beta in 3 weeks or never get one, ill just wait for the open beta sometimes this year. So right now I am just crossing my fingers and wait my turn.

Well many just got the key oters wasted time stalking devs on twitter (me included). This date(3weeks to enter in beta) is a new info, if they say that i probably wont lose my time.

In 3 weeks i have gw 2 to play.
Anyways fuck this beta im alredy mad. wait 1 week fine wait 1 month to enter in beta is better forget until it release. Lets see how those 1 -2 day vets help in bug/balance fix.

[PoisonTaco]

This is a situation where you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. On one hand, you shouldn't give the shaft to your paying customers that are the PS1 vets. Those guys have been playing and paying for years. Those guys are already loyal and in order to keep them loyal, let them into beta first before any of the beta keys.

[Micheal Phelpz]

This is a situation where you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. On one hand, you shouldn't give the shaft to your paying customers that are the PS1 vets. Those guys have been playing and paying for years. Those guys are already loyal and in order to keep them loyal, let them into beta first before any of the beta keys.

You say that, but nothing is stopping them from letting a bit of both in.

[Katanauk]

Bloody hell, again?

active subs > any time subs > twitter keys > random sign ups

off the top of my head, I've seen it that often.

edit: They've been saying it for weeks.

[Syphus]

You say that, but nothing is stopping them from letting a bit of both in.

They have said that there will be people with keys mixed in.

[Nerro]

what if we got a priority key shouldn't i be going earlier with priority . Well thats what it says in higbys post anyway. Got my key from a Dev on twitter :S

[Poser]

Another month, eh? Treating new players as third rate citizens isn't exactly very welcoming. I went from being extremely excited to feeling alienated and frustrated. This is just bad marketing. I'm sure this game will be great, but I have have very little interest in investing in a dev team that doesn't (seem) to give a fuck about me... It is just one delay after another.

I want to champion the F2P model, but it looks like I'll be spending my money MechWarrior Online. New players are the key for PS2 to be a commercial success and at the moment I have no interest paying for this game right now.

:eek:

Ok rant over. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I just needed to vent.

[RawketLawnchair]

what if we got a priority key shouldn't i be going earlier with priority . Well thats what it says in higbys post anyway. Got my key from a Dev on twitter :S

No. So people like you and me with priority keys have to wait.

[Micheal Phelpz]

Another month, eh? Treating new players as third rate citizens isn't exactly very welcoming. I went from being extremely excited to feeling alienated and frustrated. This is just bad marketing. I'm sure this game will be great, but I have have very little interest in investing in a dev team that doesn't (seem) to give a fuck about me... It is just one delay after another.

I want to champion the F2P model, but it looks like I'll be spending my money MechWarrior Online. New players are the key for PS2 to be a commercial success and at the moment I have no interest paying for this game right now.

:eek:

Ok rant over. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I just needed to vent.

If i had to express my point anyway else, this sums it up amazingly.

[Poser]

Bloody hell, again?

active subs > any time subs > twitter keys > random sign ups

off the top of my head, I've seen it that often.

edit: They've been saying it for weeks.

They never said Twitter keys would be up to a month later than vets...

[Katanauk]

They never said Twitter keys would be up to a month later than vets...

Actually, they did, they said 2 - 3 weeks a fair while ago, its not new news, just new to anyone that uses PSU as their singular source of Planetside news.

[kidwithstick]

twitter keys were never supposed to be higher priority than current subs/vets... and im pretty sure PCgamers are higher than twitters...

TBH twitter is one of the last ones to get in, just before the regular signups from ps2 website...

:rolleyes:

[Truuth]

thats so lame dude

[oENDERo]

I mean, it really is bad practice to alienate new players like this. I really don't feel very informed about the beta, even having a key. So what if PSU knew about it? The devs themselves did not message people concerning details in the beta, and yes, i'm a little upset about it. Everything i had heard about this was that if you had a key, you would be playing on monday. No, i wasn't a PS1 vet, but does that make me any less eligible to play this game than a vet? Not at all.

No zebra camo for me i guess.

[kidwithstick]

I mean, it really is bad practice to alienate new players like this. I really don't feel very informed about the beta, even having a key. So what if PSU knew about it? The devs themselves did not message people concerning details in the beta, and yes, i'm a little upset about it. Everything i had heard about this was that if you had a key, you would be playing on monday. No, i wasn't a PS1 vet, but does that make me any less eligible to play this game than a vet? Not at all.

No zebra camo for me i guess.


No where on the internet did it say anything about "if you have a key you will be playing monday 8/6/2012....

Ive been following this game since the first week it was announced. Ive been playing PS1 on and off since 2003. So you think just cause you has a nice twitter key that thousands of other noobs got you think you get in first? lol think again.

give it another few weeks. and if not theres always open beta.

[oENDERo]

No where on the internet did it say anything about "if you have a key you will be playing monday 8/6/2012....

Ive been following this game since the first week it was announced. Ive been playing PS1 on and off since 2003. So you think just cause you has a nice twitter key that thousands of other noobs got you think you get in first? lol think again.

give it another few weeks. and if not theres always open beta.


Nice sense of self entitlement you got there. The phrase "BETA STARTS MONDAY" generally would imply that everyone with a key would be able to play monday. Now, maybe if I had known previously about the key order and the way they were doing it, i wouldn't be as frustrated, but it wasn't well publicized, and I am frustrated.

[brighthand]

I mean, it really is bad practice to alienate new players like this. I really don't feel very informed about the beta, even having a key. So what if PSU knew about it? The devs themselves did not message people concerning details in the beta, and yes, i'm a little upset about it. Everything i had heard about this was that if you had a key, you would be playing on monday. No, i wasn't a PS1 vet, but does that make me any less eligible to play this game than a vet? Not at all.

No zebra camo for me i guess.

Respectfully, I must say: yes, it does make you less eligible to play this beta than a vet.

This beta isn't like battlefield 3's beta where they are releasing a demo and calling it a beta so people feel special. It is an actual testing proccess of the product with the goal of making sure this product lives up to its expectations.

As the testing is done in waves, with the vets coming in the first waves, the vets input in these preliminary periods of the games beta are crucial to keeping the game true to itself. -YOUR input, as well as mine will be important later on of course, but not in these moments where the preservation of the game's identity must be ensured first (me thinks). Once that is hammered out, we can get in and start making our own suggestions to help improve whatever variables are left.

You don't walk into a coke factory demanding to drink cans of coke right off the conveyer belt do you? The same prinicble applies here: this is a design process, and your role in it has not yet come into play. Let the vets do their thing, and be patient.

[julfo]

You don't walk into a coke factory demanding to drink cans of coke right off the conveyer belt do you? The same prinicble applies here: this is a design process, and your role in it has not yet come into play. Let the vets do their thing, and be patient.

And people that have been drinking coke for 20 years do? How strange o.O

[Katanauk]

Wait . . . people are actually comparing this to the Battlefield 3 "beta"?

Ah . . . now I get it. Betas dont work like that, BF3 "beta" was a marketing ploy. It was a demo accompanied by a brick of self worth.

A lot of games employ actual betas. Sort of like a book releases multiple copies to editors before the final product is released to the public.

Besides, it's a closed beta. Lucky if you get in, not unlucky or lucky if you don't. Have a bitch if you dont get in open beta of full release, but closed beta? Psht. Hush.

[Poser]

Respectfully, I must say: yes, it does make you less eligible to play this beta than a vet.

This beta isn't like battlefield 3's beta where they are releasing a demo and calling it a beta so people feel special. It is an actual testing proccess of the product with the goal of making sure this product lives up to its expectations.


If this was a real beta they would screen the testers. This is purely a marketing push. And as a new comer, I feel offended.

[selmu]

Yeah 70% of the vets are 2 day. It should be sign up order. Becouse who really follow the game sign up day 1. Like i did with many games i want play.

This whole key thing was marketing it work becouse bring the eyes of fps players to the game, but now have a bad impact becouse those same guys dont got in.

Keys are useless when the key holders get in everyone will get in.

[Tarconus]

Sorry, if vets are getting the preferential treatment now, then all us new players should just leave, and let you guys play PS1 with a new skin. It should have been a pool with everyone in it and pulled from at the same time.

The snobbish attitude I have been seeing from the awesome vets around here really makes me second guess even wanting to become part of this game, and this community. Well good keep it up this game can just dive bomb and go belly up.

SOE is pushing this game big time, they would have been better off making beta random selection and letting new bloods have as much of a chance at first crack and making suggestions. Now it will be all set in stone and be PS1 in a new skin.

[AvacadoEight]

If this was a real beta they would screen the testers. This is purely a marketing push. And as a new comer, I feel offended.

Is it really now? You expect them to meticulously screen EVERY tester that they let in? Maybe you need to get your head out of your ass.

I have a twitter key, and I'm sad I wont get in today, excited as I am for this game, but I UNDERSTAND that they cant just let every random guy with a key in. I've been following this game since last December. I've been here for a while, but not NEAR as long as some of those other guys. They're the fanbase, I'm glad they get the keys and entry first. ( As much as I want to play today. )

( I'd also like you to provide evidence that it IS a marketing push. I doubt you can. )

Sorry, if vets are getting the preferential treatment now, then all us new players should just leave, and let you guys play PS1 with a new skin. It should have been a pool with everyone in it and pulled from at the same time.

The snobbish attitude I have been seeing from the awesome vets around here really makes me second guess even wanting to become part of this game, and this community. Well good keep it up this game can just dive bomb and go belly up.

SOE is pushing this game big time, they would have been better off making beta random selection and letting new bloods have as much of a chance at first crack and making suggestions. Now it will be all set in stone and be PS1 in a new skin.

No, Tarconous, no. They need to show appreciation to their vets. If you're so stuck up that you, some random guy, should be in this beta before a loyal, paying vet ( I'll admit, some are snobbish ) I'm quite glad people like you are leaving. Random people dont deserve to get in before the ones that played this game, and helped make the second one. Because if PS1 had nosedived earlier than it did, they may have not considered this project again. Again, I'm REALLY happy for the vets, you got in beta, good, have fun. But christ, the people who picked up keys and expect to be in this beta day 1 makes me want to bang my head against the walls.

[Malckeor]

For the love of all things sacred, people, calm down. They've been saying for weeks now that vets are getting in before priority key holders. I got my key when they were giving them out on facebook during E3. So we have to wait a bit longer to get into the game. So what? It's eventually going into open beta anyway! Besides, this is the FIRST DAY. There's likely going to be a lot of downtime with the servers due to possible issues.

Just relax. Take a chill pill and purchase Red Orchestra 2 off of Steam to pass the time until you get in. Just be patient, like I am. :)

[Tarconus]

No, Tarconous, no. They need to show appreciation to their vets. If you're so stuck up that you, some random guy, should be in this beta before a loyal, paying vet ( I'll admit, some are snobbish ) I'm quite glad people like you are leaving. Random people dont deserve to get in before the ones that played this game, and helped make the second one. Because if PS1 had nosedived earlier than it did, they may have not considered this project again. Again, I'm REALLY happy for the vets, you got in beta, good, have fun. But christ, the people who picked up keys and expect to be in this beta day 1 makes me want to bang my head against the walls.

It's some niche little game, that's all the first one is. The money from all there other properties, is what is allowing this to be made, not the less then 5k subs that have been going on in ps1. Vets are the absolute worse people to let you know if something works or not, because they are stuck in the old way of doing things, and may not even give a new way a shot.

It should have just been RNG between vets, inactive subs and keys. You would have a good mix of players and a good mix of feedback, now all they will have is a bias towards making it just like the original.

And man look at all those "vets" that just bought the game over the weekend as well. If they were smart they would have let all us key holders push up ahead in the line by pre-ordering so much station cash to be spent in the store.

[AvacadoEight]

For the love of all things sacred, people, calm down. They've been saying for weeks now that vets are getting in before priority key holders. I got my key when they were giving them out on facebook during E3. So we have to wait a bit longer to get into the game. So what? It's eventually going into open beta anyway! Besides, this is the FIRST DAY. There's likely going to be a lot of downtime with the servers due to possible issues.

Just relax. Take a chill pill and purchase Red Orchestra 2 off of Steam to pass the time until you get in. Just be patient, like I am. :)

Aye. I've been playing Civ 5. On Deity.
( Has had his ass kicked 3 times TODAY.)

[selmu]

Is it really now? You expect them to meticulously screen EVERY tester that they let in? Maybe you need to get your head out of your ass.

I have a twitter key, and I'm sad I wont get in today, excited as I am for this game, but I UNDERSTAND that they cant just let every random guy with a key in. I've been following this game since last December. I've been here for a while, but not NEAR as long as some of those other guys. They're the fanbase, I'm glad they get the keys and entry first. ( As much as I want to play today. )

( I'd also like you to provide evidence that it IS a marketing push. I doubt you can. )



No, Tarconous, no. They need to show appreciation to their vets. If you're so stuck up that you, some random guy, should be in this beta before a loyal, paying vet ( I'll admit, some are snobbish ) I'm quite glad people like you are leaving. Random people dont deserve to get in before the ones that played this game, and helped make the second one. Because if PS1 had nosedived earlier than it did, they may have not considered this project again. Again, I'm REALLY happy for the vets, you got in beta, good, have fun. But christ, the people who picked up keys and expect to be in this beta day 1 makes me want to bang my head against the walls.


You have any clue how many real vets, ppl playng ps1 before this "buy and go in the beta" bullshit. those long time subscribers really should get in(after all they really love the game), but if they put all those real vets in it wont fill 2 servers.

[Ivam Akorahil]

iam not a vet, i havnt played ps1 at all, i hope to get in soon - ive had an all access pass once. and i have to rant :

the amount of people who DEMAND to be let into a CLOSED BETA or feel offended by NOT BEEING IN ON DAY 1 of a STAGED ACCESS is ridiculous,

just the same amount of crying ive seen on the SWTOR staged early game access. you lots are a sad bunch, you deserve NOTHING. you dont want to test at all, you just fancy playing , and for this you deserve to be left out today

Not to mention that its been common knowledge by now that twitter keys and such come in as last. And no you dont deserve the same access rights as a ps1 vet who played and payed for years. They made planetside popular, they get in first, stop crying just because little toddler tony didnt get his toy.

[Aberdash]

In SOE time 2-3 weeks means at least a month and a half.

[AvacadoEight]

It's some niche little game, that's all the first one is. The money from all there other properties, is what is allowing this to be made, not the less then 5k subs that have been going on in ps1. Vets are the absolute worse people to let you know if something works or not, because they are stuck in the old way of doing things, and may not even give a new way a shot.

It should have just been RNG between vets, inactive subs and keys. You would have a good mix of players and a good mix of feedback, now all they will have is a bias towards making it just like the original.

And man look at all those "vets" that just bought the game over the weekend as well. If they were smart they would have let all us key holders push up ahead in the line by pre-ordering so much station cash to be spent in the store.

I agree with you on the last one there ( And a little on the other 2 )

The people who bought the game last week and this morning SHOULD NOT have been in today. Thats a pure money maker right there, and I dont know a way to deny that.

[Broadside]

I know a guy who just bought the game a couple days ago and got in the beta day 1. Some people have all the luck.

[AvacadoEight]

In SOE time 2-3 weeks means at least a month and a half.

Hah, try a few years :rofl:

[Broadside]

I know a guy who just bought the game a couple days ago and got in the beta day 1. Some people have all the luck.

And he hasn't played a single minute of PS1 in his life.

[Malckeor]

Aye. I've been playing Civ 5. On Deity.
( Has had his ass kicked 3 times TODAY.)

Nice. I just purchased Sins of a Solar Empire: Trinity during the Steam sale and have been playing that. It's the first strategy game I've played in a while. I'm trying to learn how to play the Advent. I suck at RTS's, but I still enjoy the hell out of 'em for some reason. :D

[Toppopia]

You know what would be cool, if people that played Planetside 1 first and who signed up for beta first got in earlier than people who signed up 1 day ago? That would be fair. But not possible unless someone made a program that went through their server and sorted by date joined. And that sounds hard to me who is doing first year computer science :lol:

[Tarconus]

Not to mention that its been common knowledge by now that twitter keys and such come in as last. And no you dont deserve the same access rights as a ps1 vet who played and payed for years. They made planetside popular, they get in first, stop crying just because little toddler tony didnt get his toy.


Yeah they made it so popular I mean they had one whole server running these last couple years, and there are web series and cartoons that have been made recently on how popular it is.

Seriously, its a fucking game, just because you played it longer really means jack squat. Ask Smed or Higby if this game is being made, and all this money being spent just to keep the same amount of players as ps1.

Guess what if every vet left, and it was all new players, they wouldn't give two shits. They only see money, they are a business first. I don't care that I didn't get in, they are not being very smart not trying to pull a bunch of new players in right now.

They made it free 2 play to pull in as many new players as possible as well. If this game gets popular you "vets" are going to be out numbered very quickly. And when that happens, be ready for a push back on devs trying to cater to one group or another.

[Katanauk]

Yeah they made it so popular I mean they had one whole server running these last couple years, and there are web series and cartoons that have been made recently on how popular it is.

Seriously, its a fucking game, just because you played it longer really means jack squat. Ask Smed or Higby if this game is being made, and all this money being spent just to keep the same amount of players as ps1.

Guess what if every vet left, and it was all new players, they wouldn't give two shits. They only see money, they are a business first. I don't care that I didn't get in, they are not being very smart not trying to pull a bunch of new players in right now.

They made it free 2 play to pull in as many new players as possible as well. If this game gets popular you "vets" are going to be out numbered very quickly. And when that happens, be ready for a push back on devs trying to cater to one group or another.


Here you are

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[brighthand]

And people that have been drinking coke for 20 years do? How strange o.O

I know what you are saying. Those people who have been drinking coke for 20 years CAN go in and drink the coke in the factory, if they are invited to come into the taste-testing and quality assurance area, where their feed back is taken and is much appreciated, (this is assuming that coke wants to remain in the same direction/recepe that it has for all of these years), because their tastes and preferrences could be used as a measure of how close the recipe is staying to the original Coke-tastic formula. Someone who drinks mountain dew, or Perrier or dear I say...WATER, would give feedback that would taint the coke flavor and marre the name of Cokedom.

If they were making a new product/flavor of coke, then maybe inviting a more diverse consumer base- a NEWER consumer base, into the taste-testing and quality assurance area might be more expediant to the company's plans.

In the case of PS2, vets input is highly valued, and I have to praise them for this, as most other companies just screw over their original fanbase: gamers who knew them first and supported them when they weren't known at all.

EDIT: I'm not vouching for a reskinned PS1- infact, I think most vets aren't either. From reading and others account, people are aware of all the issues that plagued the first one, and are willing to accept changes that would make the game better, -but not COMPROMISES that would make the game worse. The vets know the game better, so they would be able to point out where the pitfalls for those compromises would be; you and I would not.

[Tarconus]

In all honesty, the only things vets should get over everyone else is a cosmetic item saying they were the vet of the first war, or something like that. What this has shown me though is that vets opinions will matter above everyone elses, so there really is no reason to even try and make suggestions.

There are nice vets on here, but the ones in here making fun of key holders, you have just as much a sense of entitlement as everyone else, the difference is your entitlement got given into.

[brighthand]

In all honesty, the only things vets should get over everyone else is a cosmetic item saying they were the vet of the first war, or something like that. What this has shown me though is that vets opinions will matter above everyone elses, so there really is no reason to even try and make suggestions.

There are nice vets on here, but the ones in here making fun of key holders, you have just as much a sense of entitlement as everyone else, the difference is your entitlement got given into.

I pointed out earlier on, the fact that the invites will come in waves; which means that after the vets have had their say, other players can come in and say their peace -and it would matter, because, as many have already said, they are trying to make the game for alot of people. So some non-vet feedback will probably be taken into consideration to ensure that the game is moving forward.

I just hope it doesn't devlove into something compromised and simplified so that 'everyone can win' and feel good about themselves.

Man, if I ever owned a game developement studio, I'd probably design a game whose difficulty level would hurt the feeble self esteem of some people today.

[Snipergirl]

hah! after Reading this thread. i think SOE Doesn't even care about the new players. i lost hope in this. also they are saying 2 - 3 weeks? that's like 2 months for SOE! true story. cya guys later!!!

[sagolsun]

Oh the drama in this thread.

PS1 player feedback is obviously more valuable. This isn't a new franchise, it's PS2. Veteran players have endured the caverns and robots, they have a better idea of where the game went wrong. It's only logical they get in first.

[Steambot]

hah! after Reading this thread. i think SOE Doesn't even care about the new players. i lost hope in this. also they are saying 2 - 3 weeks? that's like 2 months for SOE! true story. cya guys later!!!

*facepalm*

No. Just, no.

Although I am irritated that I have to wait a couple of weeks before I get in, because I used the PC Gamer key, I understand that vets should have high priority over me and others.

[kidwithstick]

hah! after Reading this thread. i think SOE Doesn't even care about the new players. i lost hope in this. also they are saying 2 - 3 weeks? that's like 2 months for SOE! true story. cya guys later!!!

dont let the door hit you on the ass.

[Crator]

Alls I gots to say is, "You're damned if you do and your damned if you don't"... Get over it. Priority key holders, your key is not insignificant. You're getting in to closed beta. Before the general populace gets in when open beta starts. Hell, you get in before regular (non key holders) beta signup accounts. Who knows how long that time will be but I'm betting that time will be fairly significant.

And yes, not only should PS1 vets contribute to discussions involving PS2 on the beta forums but new people as well. Stop being so butt hurt...

I do agree that they maybe probably could have been more forward and clearer with all the key/active sub/vet info far ahead of time. Seems like they were figuring that stuff out on the fly...

[Xeller]

Another day, another "I'm entitled to X because I did Y" thread.

SOE doesn't owe you anything. It's beta, not a marketing push. Anyone who has ever had any experience with software development knows that dates during development are fickle. Honestly, Smedley should have a disclaimer for every tweet but that would be hard to fit in under 140 characters. It would save the headache of the same thread being opened every single day.

Take a chill pill, play another game. Three weeks isn't a long time.

[Micheal Phelpz]

-snip-

Take a chill pill, play another game. Three weeks isn't a long time.

Yeah, except if you look at our standpoint we were hit with delays, only to get told that we had an time for when it would come out, and we get told another month about to wait.

Plus, some of us got school starting, so we wont even have a good amount of time to playtest it.

[oENDERo]

Another day, another "I'm entitled to X because I did Y" thread.

SOE doesn't owe you anything. It's beta, not a marketing push. Anyone who has ever had any experience with software development knows that dates during development are fickle. Honestly, Smedley should have a disclaimer for every tweet but that would be hard to fit in under 140 characters. It would save the headache of the same thread being opened every single day.

Take a chill pill, play another game. Three weeks isn't a long time.


It is a long time when college and school starts in 2 weeks, and some of us actually have shit to do. Also, it is a marketing push. All Access Pass? Ha...

Most of our concern comes from the lack of information given to us non-followers of PSU. I got brought in here by a friend today. And I do play other games. Probably far too many. PS2 is the game I had hoped to play two fridays ago, and now i'm going to end up waiting about 3 weeks, when i'll have plenty of other things to do that involve time consuming activities, moving into to an apartment, working, balancing college classes. This may not be the case with alot of players, but for the ones that it does affect, it is highly frustrating.

I'm not trying to sound entitled, if you were in the same boat as me you'd be pissed too. If i had known this was the case i would have bought a damn subscription to a dead game.

[Xeller]

It is a long time when college and school starts in 2 weeks, and some of us actually have shit to do. Also, it is a marketing push. All Access Pass? Ha...

Most of our concern comes from the lack of information given to us non-followers of PSU. I got brought in here by a friend today. And I do play other games. Probably far too many. PS2 is the game I had hoped to play two fridays ago, and now i'm going to end up waiting about 3 weeks, when i'll have plenty of other things to do that involve time consuming activities, moving into to an apartment, working, balancing college classes. This may not be the case with alot of players, but for the ones that it does affect, it is highly frustrating.

I'm not trying to sound entitled, if you were in the same boat as me you'd be pissed too. If i had known this was the case i would have bought a damn subscription to a dead game.

I am in the same boat. I work full time right now and school starts up for me the last week of August, and it is going to be a hell of a semester. That means the likelihood of me playing much during summer is pretty slim. I agree SOE has done a poor job with dates, but as I said everything should be taken with a grain of salt because it is a developing product.

You can view it as a marketing push because they tried to milk some money out but I guarantee you that this beta is needed and vital for development. A beta for this kind of product gives you invaluable information before an official release.

It is frustrating. But look at it this way, if they didn't give us dates and just said that beta was going to open in late August/September people would still be upset because it is at the tail end of summer.

Just look forward to all the hours we can put in during Christmas break :D

[FortySe7en]

So much QQ. I want beta now , WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[TheDAWinz]

So much QQ. I want beta now , WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Initiate the WAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH

[FortySe7en]

Initiate the WAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH

I like the way you think.

Seriously though, what's with all this damn racket? You have a key and didn't get in?! Half the people in here are bitching because they didn't get in now and school starts so they can't play as much.

Which means all you wanted to do was play, not test. Get over it you big babies.

I'll be the first one to admit, I'm a PS1 vet, and after putting up with BFRs and Caverns, I deserve more than you. :lol:

[Micheal Phelpz]

I like the way you think.

Seriously though, what's with all this damn racket? You have a key and didn't get in?! Half the people in here are bitching because they didn't get in now and school starts so they can't play as much.

Which means all you wanted to do was play, not test. Get over it you big babies.

I'll be the first one to admit, I'm a PS1 vet, and after putting up with BFRs and Caverns, I deserve more than you. :lol:

Good lord, is this what the PS1 vet community is like? Now im actually turned off from playing/testing the game almost entirely now if it will be filled with people like you.

You guys call me self entitled? look in the mirror holy crud.

Nice ninja edit btw, you said that you were better than us, nice try though.

[TheDAWinz]

Good lord, is this what the PS1 vet community is like? Now im actually turned off from playing/testing the game almost entirely now if it will be filled with people like you.

You guys call me self entitled? look in the mirror holy crud.

Nice ninja edit btw, you said that you were better than us, nice try though.

He was being sarcastic on the last bit.

[FortySe7en]

Nice ninja edit btw, you said that you were better than us, nice try though.

I am. I just thought it would be in-polite to rub it in your faces with all this other non-sense going on. Perhaps another time.


He was being sarcastic on the last bit.

Thank you.

[Katanauk]

I dont think Im going to have enough for everyone in this thread! Which makes me QQ too, now I need some too :(

http://www.panik-design.com/acatalog/blomus-68390-big.jpg

[Micheal Phelpz]

I am. I just thought it would be in-polite to rub it in your faces with all this other non-sense going on. Perhaps another time

Like you said, with all this nonsense going on, i don't think SOE would like seeing one of their vets talking like this, it can represent them pretty badly.

[Crator]

Like you said, with all this nonsense going on, i don't think SOE would like seeing one of their vets talking like this, it can represent them pretty badly.

Michaeal, you're a great swimmer but you need to stop. You said something earlier about PSU community that wasn't warranted really. The guy you quoted has 'Private' as their rank which means it is a new account on PSU.

Not everyone on the Interwebs is nice. Stop bashing this community just cause a select few can't word their shit right.

[raidyr]

I'm not annoyed about my vet status being meaningless compared to people who have better computers and/or the impatience to buy into the beta. Mostly because I knew as soon as they said that and every time after it would be an empty promise.

But I am kind of annoyed that several months ago they put priority keys in a magazine and said those people would be the first to play. Now I learn I am 4th in line behind a bunch of other variables?

I don't mind not playing the beta, I've been waiting since 2011, but I don't like being lied to.

[Arrius]

I'm not annoyed about my vet status being meaningless compared to people who have better computers and/or the impatience to buy into the beta. Mostly because I knew as soon as they said that and every time after it would be an empty promise.

But I am kind of annoyed that several months ago they put priority keys in a magazine and said those people would be the first to play. Now I learn I am 4th in line behind a bunch of other variables?

I don't mind not playing the beta, I've been waiting since 2011, but I don't like being lied to.
Exactly.

I doubt all of the vets or guys who should have got in the early waves will be in before October. When their specific dates are off by a month you can only imagine what 2-3 weeks comes out to be in reality.

[BlueSkies]

Beta is not release (I know it might seem that way with F2P games). Furthermore, this is a real beta (bug fixing, balancing, stress testing), not a marketing push.

We all get in day 1 of release together regardless of previous history.

[Salad Snake]

Another month, eh? Treating new players as third rate citizens isn't exactly very welcoming. I went from being extremely excited to feeling alienated and frustrated. This is just bad marketing. I'm sure this game will be great, but I have have very little interest in investing in a dev team that doesn't (seem) to give a fuck about me... It is just one delay after another.

I want to champion the F2P model, but it looks like I'll be spending my money MechWarrior Online. New players are the key for PS2 to be a commercial success and at the moment I have no interest paying for this game right now.

:eek:

Ok rant over. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I just needed to vent.

I understand that you're frustrated, I'm not getting in anytime soon either, but think about how shafted vets would feel if a random Wahoo who signed for beta (like myself) got in before them. I'd sure feel the same.

And people that have been drinking coke for 20 years do? How strange o.O

They would probably be the priority customers that would get to taste-test the product before release to the general public. Mountain Dew actually did something like that a couple years ago iirc.



Seriously guys, some of these remarks are sounding very juvenile. This is a REAL beta, meant for testing the servers and looking for bugs. This is NOT BF3 beta, which was not really anything more than a demo (who submitted bug reports during that beta?!? Anyone?).

[NePaS]

Read 2 pages ,then gave up and crashed my head in the desk.

So what it boils down to is:

Let vets in=newbies moan
Let newbies in=vets moan

SOE fail either way right?

Can the lot of you grow up maybe,and stop acting like the 10 year old xbawx kids you seem to reflect?

How about showing a bit of respect to these guys for trying to dish it out fairly(even if they have made huge mistakes)at the end of it all,this is for BETA to a free game.

[FortySe7en]

Michaeal, you're a great swimmer but you need to stop. You said something earlier about PSU community that wasn't warranted really. The guy you quoted has 'Private' as their rank which means it is a new account on PSU.

Not everyone on the Interwebs is nice. Stop bashing this community just cause a select few can't word their shit right.

I worded it correctly. And just because my account says private doesn't mean I haven't been a part of this community. I've actually switched handles for the new PlanetSide 2 game.

I wasn't mean, I wasn't harsh. As a PS1 vet who has had an active account since 2003, I am entitled to a first entry beta. That's just how it goes.

[Crator]

.....

[Bags]

If it was that big of a deal to some of you, why not just buy your way in last night for $10? Eight of my non-ps1 vets bought the game for $10 last night, and I am sure they got in.

[Micheal Phelpz]

If it was that big of a deal to some of you, why not just buy your way in last night for $10? Eight of my non-ps1 vets bought the game for $10 last night, and I am sure they got in.

Because some didn't know they would have to wait another 2 weeks.

[Katanauk]

Because some didn't know they would have to wait another 2 weeks.

It's been news for like 3 or 4 weeks, can't blame the devs for not chasing people individually to make sure they know, the info was out there.

[Bags]

Because some didn't know they would have to wait another 2 weeks.

If you followed smedley on twitter they'd know!

[Micheal Phelpz]

If you followed smedley on twitter they'd know!

Sorry for not stalking people i follow, i have to be up to date 24/7 on that one tweet they make that tells us this info, not like we have stuff to do or any distractions at all.

[eybro]

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2008/03/medium_giantjohnsmedley.jpg

[Bags]

Sorry for not stalking people i follow, i have to be up to date 24/7 on that one tweet they make that tells us this info, not like we have stuff to do or any distractions at all.

I have a job and other obligations and I found out the key order by casually checking PSU and twitter.

[Micheal Phelpz]

I have a job and other obligations and I found out the key order by casually checking PSU and twitter.

blame coincidence, what can happen to you may not happen to others.

[MorioMortis]

Honestly, I am really tired of this cryfest...

It was always announced, more than month ago and certainly more than 5 distinct times (probably more like 10), that the beta would follow a certain order. And to the people who feel that they have been cheated by not getting in day 1, this is a real beta test; if you want to test stuff, you don't bring in everyone at the same time (the time it takes to set up everything for so many people could have been used as testing), and if you are making a sequel, you want people who know their stuff to see, as early as possible, if your product is a truly a sequel and not just another game with an old name on it.

This doesn't mean you take everything they say, but for the whole experience, they are the only ones who more or less understand how PS should play as a total package, because there are no other games that are similar. Yes, PS2 isn't PS1.5:Look at dem Graphics, but, the fundamentals of the game are the same, and that is what you need to test at the start of a beta; all the rest, including the actual mechanics of the implementation, can be tested later. And honestly, most of the complaints about the game, and, even more, the gameplay, on both sides of the veteran label relate to things that are relatively quite minute, and that can be easily adjusted at any time during the beta; it therefore stands to reason that if, in 5 weeks, all the new blood think that something is off, than it will still be able to be fully tested and implemented.

[Syphus]

I never paid attention or even made any attempt to look, yet I am upset at what I didn't know!

[Poser]

If you followed smedley on twitter they'd know!

I read it as there would be waves of invites done over 2-3 weeks... not 100% vets. By the sounds of things twitter key holders will be given invites right before the open beta.

What sucks the most is that SOE has negatively divided the community with this decision. Anyway all will be forgiven if the game is good, but the money I was planning on spending on PS2 is going elsewhere.

[Syphus]

I read it as there would be waves of invites done over 2-3 weeks... not 100% vets. By the sounds of things twitter key holders will be given invites right before the open beta.

What sucks the most is that SOE has negatively divided the community with this decision. Anyway all will be forgiven if the game is good, but the money I was planning on spending on PS2 is going elsewhere.

Even though I already said it in this thread.

Through the vets access (and this first wave), there will be keys sprinkled in there.

[Comet]

Don't be a poser, Poser.

[Trafalgar]

Personally, I got one of the twitter keys shortly after E3, and you know how I feel about this? Perfectly fine. I'm not offended, alienated, or frustrated. I'm not upset. I'm not raging at the devs or Smedley. 3 weeks, or even 4 weeks, is not that far away - Especially compared to the two years I've been signed up for Firefall's beta without getting invited to it (at this point I don't even remember why Firefall sounded good, and may not even bother with Firefall if I ever do get in).

This post brought to you by Gamer(s) Too Bitter About Some Other Game To Be Bitter About This One.

[Gavinbrindstaar]

As a "Priority" Key holder, I can understand some of the disappointment some of people feel. Unless I'm incorrect, in the very beginning they (SOE) hyped the Twitter and PC Gamer keys as entry into the beta first. It was only afterwards they unveiled their " 'Active' Veterans> Inactive Vets> Priority keys> Everyone else" structure. It feels like they pulled a fast one after they realized the power vets had over the game. I understand that vets offer a unique viewpoint, but so do the new players, and it feels like the new guys are being shafted. I know priority keys are being "sprinkled" into the first wave, but the word "sprinkled" sounds like an attempt to mollify the people who actually know the dictionary definition of the word priority.

[FortySe7en]

As a "Priority" Key holder, I can understand some of the disappointment some of people feel. Unless I'm incorrect, in the very beginning they (SOE) hyped the Twitter and PC Gamer keys as entry into the beta first. It was only afterwards they unveiled their " 'Active' Veterans> Inactive Vets> Priority keys> Everyone else" structure. It feels like they pulled a fast one after they realized the power vets had over the game. I understand that vets offer a unique viewpoint, but so do the new players, and it feels like the new guys are being shafted. I know priority keys are being "sprinkled" into the first wave, but the word "sprinkled" sounds like an attempt to mollify the people who actually know the dictionary definition of the word priority.

The "vets" know what made planetside great, and what made it terrible. Unfortunately, new people do not. No new person in the entire world can describe the feeling of cavern fighting or BFR's in a game changing scenario.

Yes, the new guys are being shafted, welcome to old style beta. Most games (such as GW2) have "demos for pre-purchasing". This is truly what an old school beta was like, and back in the day most people were picked by who they knew, or their status in a previous game.

Its actually quite refreshing to see SOE going back to the roots of the old ways and maybe, just MAYBE, there really is hope for the future of gaming, and not this casual "pet collecting" world people have created around us.

[Ivam Akorahil]

Yeah they made it so popular I mean they had one whole server running these last couple years, and there are web series and cartoons that have been made recently on how popular it is.

Seriously, its a fucking game, just because you played it longer really means jack squat. Ask Smed or Higby if this game is being made, and all this money being spent just to keep the same amount of players as ps1.



you see, if there werent any ps1 players and the game would have never been recieved so well, there wouldnt be a ps2 , there you go :)

anyways to have a beta keys only means that at some point you are definatly getting into the closed beta, if you randomly sign up, mostl likely not. but the priority key means you HAVE PRIORITY IN JOINING UP, not that you are super uber hero and can get it asap.

[Sikee Atric]

I actually don't mind that I only have a PC Gamer key. The vets have been here for years and deserve their first access, anybody who doesn't like it clearly is too impatient to see the rewards of this game.

It's not just a game where you can pick it up for a quick rush. Attacks take time, not 10 minutes.

Shut up, wait your turn and be glad people are testing it now, so when we get we'll have a bit more of a polished game to enjoy.

Besides, this beta is gonna run for months, not days. 2 to 3 weeks isn't gonna matter, when to be honest, I cannot see an open beta until close to the festive period....

[Otleaz]

Its actually quite refreshing to see SOE going back to the roots of the old ways and maybe, just MAYBE, there really is hope for the future of gaming, and not this casual "pet collecting" world people have created around us.
I like how you are ignoring the fact that people who pay $15 get put ahead of people who played thousands of hours and spent hundreds of dollars over the years.

Going back to the roots, guys! I remember when beta wasn't a marketing scheme... I guess if a game does that we have to call it "Going back to its bedrock" since "roots" is already taken.

Also, you are kidding yourself if you think experience with planetside 1 will get you anything but a lesson in how different a sequel can be from the original.

[Tarconus]

I like how you are ignoring the fact that people who pay $15 get put ahead of people who played thousands of hours and spent hundreds of dollars over the years.

Going back to the roots, guys! I remember when beta wasn't a marketing scheme... I guess if a game does that we have to call it "Going back to its bedrock" since "roots" is already taken.

Also, you are kidding yourself if you think experience with planetside 1 will get you anything but a lesson in how different a sequel can be from the original.

Shhh those new "vets" that bought it over the weekend are super important. :rofl:

[soulsurfsublime]

SOE teased and dangled beta in front of my eyes for so long I have lost a little of the passion and excitement I had for the past 12 months waiting for this. All I can say is I found Day Z from waiting around and for that I thank you SOE.

[WWladCZ]

I see a constant battle between 2 Day "vets" and True vets. I think that 2 Day should get in last just to see the rage abourt money being spent on nothing :D. I say True vets>keys>subbed for beta>2 Day "vets"

[Goku]

Whats a "true vet" to you? Someone who played for a month back and launch isn't one to me for example. Too many possibilities out there and there is no true one.

[WWladCZ]

Whats a "true vet" to you? Someone who played for a month back and launch isn't one to me for example. Too many possibilities out there and there is no true one.

Hmm good point. You will know if you are true Vet its that feel when your the part of base assalut or fighter squadron. Not when you just buy original Planetside dont even instal just say aaaaaa original planetside is outdated and i can play Planetside 2 Beta why bother with original Planetside. People like this destroy what original Planetside was.
Edit: Play the Beta and make use of your time advantage and have fun. But when the Planetsiders will come to Planetside 2 you wont last long.

[Wrekriem]

Wow you guys are getting angry over nothing. Though I guess at least it shows your passion for the game.. even before you get to play it! We're no where near release, chill out :P

[IgloGlass]

Can't stop laughing, guys you're whining way too much :rofl:
but don't get me wrong they should've kept the vet cut off to 30th June.. But still, whiny x)

[WWladCZ]

Can't stop laughing, guys you're whining way too much :rofl:
but don't get me wrong they should've kept the vet cut off to 30th June.. But still, whiny x)

Somebody has to do it :D

[funkadelik]

If you guys really cared about getting in to beta you would have put your money where your mouth is. $15 is absolutely nothing. So quit whining that you were too cheap to get into beta.

[WWladCZ]

If you guys really cared about getting in to beta you would have put your money where your mouth is. $15 is absolutely nothing. So quit whining that you were too cheap to get into beta.

Cheap are your arguments kid.

[MooK]

If you guys really cared about getting in to beta you would have put your money where your mouth is. $15 is absolutely nothing. So quit whining that you were too cheap to get into beta.

1.) Many people were under the impression that there was a cutoff date. Therefore, why would we pay for an abandoned game, which is arguably in a very poor state?

2.) Why should I pay subscription to a dead game, on top of hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, a PC Gamer magazine, as well as a great deal of my time in the past twelve months participating in the overhyping of this game?

3.) Why would I want to encourage the concept of "Pay to Enter" a beta, when there is an abundance of criticism for PS2 being a "Pay to Win" game? I don't want that. I want there to be freeform competition based on skill. I don't see how encouraging this business practice would ensure that.

4.) I'm a May 23rd 2003 sign up, with plenty of time under my belt. They clearly do not want my immediate opinion on the game, or they would have written a very simple routine to (1) check for an active subscription date with a cutoff ensuring diehards and supporters get in, (2) check for individuals who have spent a great deal of time in the game (I expect that this is recorded in their database, beyond continous subscription cost--maybe time played.)

[WWladCZ]

1.) Many people were under the impression that there was a cutoff date. Therefore, why would we pay for an abandoned game, which is arguably in a very poor state?

2.) Why should I pay subscription to a dead game, on top of hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, a PC Gamer magazine, as well as a great deal of my time in the past twelve months participating in the overhyping of this game?

3.) Why would I want to encourage the concept of "Pay to Enter" a beta, when there is an abundance of criticism for PS2 being a "Pay to Win" game? I don't want that. I want there to be freeform competition based on skill. I don't see how encouraging this business practice would ensure that.

4.) I'm a May 23rd 2003 sign up, with plenty of time under my belt. They clearly do not want my immediate opinion on the game, or they would have written a very simple routine to (1) check for an active subscription date with a cutoff ensuring diehards and supporters get in, (2) check for individuals who have spent a great deal of time in the game (I expect that this is recorded in their database, beyond continous subscription cost--maybe time played.)

Thank god somebody gets it.

[XPquant]

I can't wait to make you children QQ in-game. Your suffering is so amusing.

[Bruttal]

i consider my veteran rewards for 9 years to be proof enough.

[funkadelik]

1.) Many people were under the impression that there was a cutoff date. Therefore, why would we pay for an abandoned game, which is arguably in a very poor state?

2.) Why should I pay subscription to a dead game, on top of hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, a PC Gamer magazine, as well as a great deal of my time in the past twelve months participating in the overhyping of this game?

3.) Why would I want to encourage the concept of "Pay to Enter" a beta, when there is an abundance of criticism for PS2 being a "Pay to Win" game? I don't want that. I want there to be freeform competition based on skill. I don't see how encouraging this business practice would ensure that.

4.) I'm a May 23rd 2003 sign up, with plenty of time under my belt. They clearly do not want my immediate opinion on the game, or they would have written a very simple routine to (1) check for an active subscription date with a cutoff ensuring diehards and supporters get in, (2) check for individuals who have spent a great deal of time in the game (I expect that this is recorded in their database, beyond continous subscription cost--maybe time played.)
i.e. QQ - I'm to cheap to get into beta.

Seriously, for the cost of eating out at Denny's once is all it cost.

[Crator]

1.) Many people were under the impression that there was a cutoff date. Therefore, why would we pay for an abandoned game, which is arguably in a very poor state?

2.) Why should I pay subscription to a dead game, on top of hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, a PC Gamer magazine, as well as a great deal of my time in the past twelve months participating in the overhyping of this game?

3.) Why would I want to encourage the concept of "Pay to Enter" a beta, when there is an abundance of criticism for PS2 being a "Pay to Win" game? I don't want that. I want there to be freeform competition based on skill. I don't see how encouraging this business practice would ensure that.

4.) I'm a May 23rd 2003 sign up, with plenty of time under my belt. They clearly do not want my immediate opinion on the game, or they would have written a very simple routine to (1) check for an active subscription date with a cutoff ensuring diehards and supporters get in, (2) check for individuals who have spent a great deal of time in the game (I expect that this is recorded in their database, beyond continous subscription cost--maybe time played.)

Of course they should've done something like this. But they didn't. I think most people would agree with this. SOE just wasn't straight forward with what they were doing and gave us the info via Tweets.

[dafuq]

i rather take 10 2day vets who are interested in testing and finding bugs
than 10 1337r0xx0r vets from 2003 who are lazy and only want to see the new game for a few hours and never come back

[ziegler]

Whats a "true vet" to you? .

Someone that was playing PS1 prior to the announcement of PS2 and continued playing it.


<------ never played PS1 and didnt buy a "vet" copy either. I'm old and patient.

[james]

Twitter people have no right to be annoyed, the only people who have any right to be annoyed is PC gamer keys. Your got your keys for free and wasn't promised to be in the first wave. At the snail pass SOE works out maybe all keys will be in within 2 months and the game may be out in 1-2 years

[JToTheDog]

Of course they should've done something like this. But they didn't. I think most people would agree with this. SOE just wasn't straight forward with what they were doing and gave us the info via Tweets.

Exactly. I think people need to get off the fan-bus. But people need to get off the hate-bus as well.

My simple conclusion is: There wouldn't be this much rage and misunderstanding if they had just been straight forward with the information and not tried to hype it so much.

[james]

Exactly. I think people need to get off the fan-bus. But people need to get off the hate-bus as well.

My simple conclusion is: There wouldn't be this much rage and misunderstanding if they had just been straight forward with the information and not tried to hype it so much.

We have a winner, if SOE had not lied, hyped and misled, no one would be butt hurt as we would know what we were actually getting

[Envenom]

The sense of f**** entitlement in this thread is disgusting. It's just a beta. 1-2 weeks won't kill you. Man up.

[james]

The sense of f**** entitlement in this thread is disgusting. It's just a beta. 1-2 weeks won't kill you. Man up.

No fucken entitlement, its just called we want what was promised. If vets didn't go first you all would be acting like assholes so just stfu.

And fuck all the vets were crying like babies just a few weeks ago over the tech test, so no one has any room to call out either side

[Goku]

No fucken entitlement, its just called we want what was promised. If vets didn't go first you all would be acting like assholes so just stfu.

And fuck all the vets were crying like babies just a few weeks ago over the tech test, so no one has any room to call out either side

We don't need posts like this in any thread. I'm closing this before I put out infractions to people.

For the record its been said for months vets would be in first. Never saw Twitter as being equal or having first access...

[Hamma]

Guys for those of you who seem keen on reporting this post and constantly beating this dead mutilated horse, this information has been readily available (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45044) for WEEKS and in some cases MONTHS.

It's simple - active subs > anytime subbed > priority keys > normal signups

Day one was active subs. Anytime subs will probably be coming soon, after that priority keys and normal signups.

How many times does this have to be repeated?

There's no point to constantly raging about it, it is what it is and you will get in when you get in.