Higby Streaming again! (Aug 8)

[Carnage]

Higby's Twitch Account (www.twitch.tv/las0m#/w/3577103760)

2 hour YT Upload from JawsOfLife of stream. VVVVV
Planetside 2 Closed Beta Live Stream (August 8th) - YouTube

[Micheal Phelpz]

so its ok if Higby can go against NDA?

[Oktarnash]

He is a developer so he probably has permission to stream Planetside 2.

[vailliant]

http://twitch.tv/las0m

Starting now :) gogo watch higby streaming as we speak (someone tape it)

[Micheal Phelpz]

Kinda odd ya know, say a vehicle has some super laser cannon, technically none of this can be edited out, so whats the point of putting a NDA if any possible info can be shown?

[Zilaa]

Just wondering, is anyone recording this like last time?

[Carnage]

I would but I have not set up dxtory for it...

[Spiah]

This is awesome, thanks for the link :)

[Astrok]

The problem with these streams is that it lags alot.

The game itself doesnt lag but the streams geeeez.it sometimes just looks like a slideshow of photos.

[JawsOfLife]

Just wondering, is anyone recording this like last time?

Doing so right now!

[Astrok]

Kinda odd ya know, say a vehicle has some super laser cannon, technically none of this can be edited out, so whats the point of putting a NDA if any possible info can be shown?

TRUE THIS!!!!!

u are absolutely right about this .People cant talk or make any videos about the game while they are streaming it theirselfs with all the things we need.

to bad the streaming is fucked sometimes it just lags to much.Not the game just the stream

[Envenom]

beat me to the punch this time!

[Zilaa]

Doing so right now!

Thanks, its late here and i have to get up early, but dont want to miss this.
Please leave us a link to find your recording.

[JawsOfLife]

Thanks, its late here and i have to get up early, but dont want to miss this.
Please leave us a link to find your recording.

Sure thing. It will take a long time to upload on my internet unfortunately (and that's after rendering it) but it should be up sometime tonight (PST).

[Noctis]

Big stalemate there right now

EDIT: Nice lighting show, kinda easy on long ranged but hard to hit anything, or higby just sucks

EDIT: LOL vanu sniper landed a mid-air hit on him while he was jetpacking

[SFJake]

He sure likes that rocket launcher...

[Phisionary]

This's probably excepted from NDA because any other streams could just talking shit about the lag or the textures or how it isn't BF4 or CoD3 or whatever, stuff that's either basically idiotic, or inapplicable to a Beta product. Either way detrimental to their marketing effort. Also, Higby should know what he's not supposed to show?

Best stream so far, IMO. Awesome scale, awesome battle, awesomely awesome.


I want in!!!

[Zebasiz]

All they need is one liberator and they can at least move up to a new line of offence.

[thegreekboy]

SOMEONE RECORD IT! QUICK! lol

[Phisionary]

All they need is one liberator and they can at least move up to a new line of offence.

Funny, I was thinking the opposite side of that, how nice and clear the skies were, and what a hellish battle that would be if you were constantly getting strafed by passing scythes.

[sagolsun]

This is a semi-open beta. People will leak and while you can ban them afterwards, the footage is out. If it's bad footage, it's bad for SOE. It could be a bad player, a bad computer, a bad connection, bad video editing skills - if the overall video is crap, SOE loses.

Some guy uploaded a series of three horrible videos yesterday. Sitting in an AA turret and committing suicide jumping off of various tall places.

The guys at SOE realized that no matter how hard they try, leaked footage will get out, NDA or not. So to turn a loss into a gain, Higby is now streaming high quality official footage - undercutting unofficial and potentially crap sources.

Smart people at SOE.

[picchu]

This is a semi-open beta. People will leak and while you can ban them afterwards, the footage is out. If it's bad footage, it's bad for SOE. It could be a bad player, a bad computer, a bad connection, bad video editing skills - if the overall video is crap, SOE loses.

Some guy uploaded a series of three horrible videos yesterday. Sitting in an AA turret and committing suicide jumping off of various tall places.

The guys at SOE realized that no matter how hard they try, leaked footage will get out, NDA or not. So to turn a loss into a gain, Higby is now streaming high quality official footage - undercutting unofficial and potentially crap sources.

Smart people at SOE.

The quality could be better... you expect better from someone who actually works on the game. It is a little disappointing but I guess I can't complain.

[Envenom]

boring as shit. This stalemate is going nowhere and nobody is pushing. Perhaps if running straight up the middle the first 97 times didn't work, it's time to change tactics yes?

[PaperChampion]

Why is the lighting so friggin awesome in this game lol?

[thegreekboy]

Looks like it's time for them to let the real vets in :p not some pay to play mercs.

all they needed was one liberator pass or one gal drop on the base and the battle would have been over lol

[Envenom]

all they needed was one liberator pass or one gal drop on the base and the battle would have been over lol

No no. Cowering behind rocks and spamming rockets is much more effective.

[picchu]

He really loves that rocket launcher.

[SixShooter]

He really loves that rocket launcher.

Ya, that's pretty funny after he talked up LA so much on the last Command Center. Zergin in HA, look at him go:groovy:

[Ertwin]

I liked when he pulled up to a TR soldier in a vanguard, got out, walked up to him, and beat him to death with a pistol

[Zebasiz]

I liked when he pulled up to a TR soldier in a vanguard, got out, walked up to him, and beat him to death with a pistol

Highlight of the night right there.
Watching the night footage, They REALLY need to make it darker. It's good and pitch black in the shadows, but other than that there's plenty of light to see far and wide.

[picchu]

he thought about it for a long time :p how didn't the guy hear the tank?

How did he not notice he was being beaten to death..ha :eek:

[Pepsi]

92 bullets left... must reload!

Good stream. Can't wait.

edit: REPAIR THIS SON!

[IceyCold]

Re-Encrypting Security Consoles?

Looks like there is a set time after a base is taken before it can be contested again.

Nice.

[BlueSkies]

Re-Encrypting Security Consoles?

Looks like there is a set time after a base is taken before it can be contested again.

Nice.

Yeah... they mentioned they wanted to put that in... otherwise the fight never moves

[thegreekboy]

stream done

[SixShooter]

Good stuff! Thanks for the stream Mr Higby:cheers:. It makes my night at work so much more enjoyable :).

[Comet]

That was an awesome stream. It really helped show the scale of the fights.

[Rat]

not hearing much VOIP chatter...dosent look like peeps are really organizing too much yet...I think we are looking at mostly zerg vs zerg...the heavy assult deffinately looks pretty satisfying to play...would love to see it from the TR perspective...I sooo feel like a cheapskate for not resubbing to get in.

[WiteBeam]

I'm surprised we still have an active NDA with all the hours of live footage they have given us. There really isn't much a beta tester could say that we haven't already seen.

[berzerkerking]

The Epic scale was mindblowing

[Carnage]

indeed there were some nice big battles, I will update the 1st post when I find an up load to youtube, pls post if you find one.

[Rat]

I'm surprised we still have an active NDA with all the hours of live footage they have given us. There really isn't much a beta tester could say that we haven't already seen.

You would get a handfull of knuckleheads yelling about how things suck overshadowing the awesomeness

he thought about it for a long time :p how didn't the guy hear the tank?

maybe he was disconnected

[SixShooter]

Next time I want to see a T-Ray stream.

:vsrocks:

[JawsOfLife]

SOMEONE RECORD IT! QUICK! lol

Rendering right now...

This is where I see an i3 2100 is great for gaming but not so great for 1080p rendering :(

[Revanmug]

Highlight of the night right there.
Watching the night footage, They REALLY need to make it darker. It's good and pitch black in the shadows, but other than that there's plenty of light to see far and wide.

With a full moon so close, it shouldn't get dark black all around and even less with all those light on the building.

[JawsOfLife]

It only looked like it was dusk-ish...not truly dark before the stream was ended. I could be wrong though.

[Phisionary]

It only looked like it was dusk-ish...not truly dark before the stream was ended. I could be wrong though.

I heard it was dark when the stream started, then it went through a full daycycle and went dark again. I think it ended in the morning again... I caught most of it, but missed some bits in the middle.

From what I saw, there was a fair amount of ambient light, even at the darkest times. I suppose it could be said that it's light adapted levels or something, but it did seem a bit luminous for the dead of night. Maybe there are moon phases? There are some pretty big things up in the sky...

There were a few moments where he was looking down into a canyon or draw... gunfire and explosions were the only visible things. A tank I didn't see was lit by by an explosion in the shadows. Fairly dark, but the stream quality wasn't terrific either.

Edit: Perhaps true darkness will come into play when they get weather fully included. If those giant moons and glowing nebulae are totally covered in rainclouds, I'd hope that the darkness would get quite dark indeed. Enough to not be able to navigate the terrain without lights or other assistance. That would make for interesting fights.

[Papscal]

Doesent look or feel like ps with out ams.

[JawsOfLife]

I heard it was dark when the stream started, then it went through a full daycycle and went dark again. I think it ended in the morning again... I caught most of it, but missed some bits in the middle.

From what I saw, there was a fair amount of ambient light, even at the darkest times. I suppose it could be said that it's light adapted levels or something, but it did seem a bit luminous for the dead of night. Maybe there are moon phases? There are some pretty big things up in the sky...

There were a few moments where he was looking down into a canyon or draw... gunfire and explosions were the only visible things. A tank I didn't see was lit by by an explosion in the shadows. Fairly dark, but the stream quality wasn't terrific either.

Edit: Perhaps true darkness will come into play when they get weather fully included. If those giant moons and glowing nebulae are totally covered in rainclouds, I'd hope that the darkness would get quite dark indeed. Enough to not be able to navigate the terrain without lights or other assistance. That would make for interesting fights.

I recorded almost the whole live stream, but I wasn't watching the whole time. However, I think it will be very dark at least at launch due to the devs mentioning multiple times that night would be "very dark" or something along those lines.

[Rivenshield]

I recorded almost the whole live stream, but I wasn't watching the whole time. However, I think it will be very dark at least at launch due to the devs mentioning multiple times that night would be "very dark" or something along those lines.

Bless you. I missed the whole thing, as per usual. Fajitas to make and eat, etc.

I shall await the YouTube version. It sounds like there was some large-scale combat in this thing.

/salivates

[Harasus]

Note to you all, it is also possible that they are testing various tactics in "events". Essentially doing X with Y at Z. That could explain the lack of aircraft. They mentioned that this was going to be a real beta, and people would not only be playing the game without a care in the world.

Or maybe they are just zerging forward, no clue what their plan is.

[JawsOfLife]

Bless you. I missed the whole thing, as per usual. Fajitas to make and eat, etc.

I shall await the YouTube version. It sounds like there was some large-scale combat in this thing.

/salivates

I understand, sometimes fajias take precedence. Due to the absurd filesize it will take a while to get on the tube though.

[Zebasiz]

Note to you all, it is also possible that they are testing various tactics in "events". Essentially doing X with Y at Z. That could explain the lack of aircraft. They mentioned that this was going to be a real beta, and people would not only be playing the game without a care in the world.

Or maybe they are just zerging forward, no clue what their plan is.

True. It is very easy to forget that, the game just looks so good already! :D

[Joomba]

Please tell me that somebody recorded this one. He only likes to stream while I'm at work :/

[Rivenshield]

I understand, sometimes fajias take precedence.
Yes. Yes they do.

True. It is very easy to forget that, the game just looks so good already! :D
I notice a lot of people and vehicles just plain.... vanishing, sometimes for a couple seconds at a time. And some of the animations still seem kind of herky-jerky, the MAXes especially.

That's what beta is for, mind. Just sayin.'

Please tell me that somebody recorded this one. He only likes to stream while I'm at work :/
JawsOfLife will be putting his half hour's worth up on YouTube -- hopefully tonight, tomorrow if not.

[JawsOfLife]

Please tell me that somebody recorded this one. He only likes to stream while I'm at work :/

Yep, recorded, rendered, and uploading now. Youtube is estimating over 7 hours though so it will likely not be live until 5 am PST. You can watch yesterday's footage to tide you over until then if you haven't already though!

P.S. I got more than a half hour of footage this time, I managed to get almost the whole thing so this one will be about 2 hours long, and I find it is one of the best streams we've seen yet. The scale of fights is really showcased, some great stuff to look forward to!

[Rivenshield]

Yep, recorded, rendered, and uploading now. Youtube is estimating over 7 hours though so it will likely not be live until 5 am PST. You can watch yesterday's footage to tide you over until then if you haven't already though!

P.S. I got more than a half hour of footage this time, I managed to get almost the whole thing so this one will be about 2 hours long, and I find it is one of the best streams we've seen yet. The scale of fights is really showcased, some great stuff to look forward to!

The wait will be worth it, then.

Thank you sir. You are a pillar of our dysfunctional little community.

/bow

[Syphus]

God damn Youtube upload speeds. Where is that Google Fiber when you need it?

[Joomba]

Yep, recorded, rendered, and uploading now. Youtube is estimating over 7 hours though so it will likely not be live until 5 am PST. You can watch yesterday's footage to tide you over until then if you haven't already though!

P.S. I got more than a half hour of footage this time, I managed to get almost the whole thing so this one will be about 2 hours long, and I find it is one of the best streams we've seen yet. The scale of fights is really showcased, some great stuff to look forward to!

You recorded yesterday too? You're my hero!

What's the link? Searching for Planetside 2 live streaming doesn't show any recent links.

[JawsOfLife]

God damn Youtube upload speeds. Where is that Google Fiber when you need it?

It's actually my internet; I only get 5 mbps up :(

You recorded yesterday too? You're my hero!

What's the link? Searching for Planetside 2 live streaming doesn't show any recent links.

A youtube search for "Planetside 2 Closed Beta" should bring it up.

Link is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbtFUXVhu98

[Nolerhn]

JawsOfLife, thanks alot for recording these streams. :)

[Joomba]

Thank you so much!

By the way, what's your download speed? I get 10 down, but only (just under) 1 up (for that I pay $50/month).

[JawsOfLife]

JawsOfLife, thanks alot for recording these streams. :)

No problem! I figured the community would enjoy them, and it lets me sit down after the fact and analyze them closer, so it's win/win!

Thank you so much!

By the way, what's your download speed? I get 10 down, but only (just under) 1 up (for that I pay $50/month).

The package we have has internet at 10mpbs down/5 mpbs up, which is the same I had at my old house with Comcast (we're with some other company now whose name escapes me at the moment.) It's a TV/internet bundle so I couldn't really price compare for you.

Edit: it's called WaveBroadband

[VikingPignvin]

Yep, recorded, rendered, and uploading now. Youtube is estimating over 7 hours though so it will likely not be live until 5 am PST. You can watch yesterday's footage to tide you over until then if you haven't already though!

P.S. I got more than a half hour of footage this time, I managed to get almost the whole thing so this one will be about 2 hours long, and I find it is one of the best streams we've seen yet. The scale of fights is really showcased, some great stuff to look forward to!

You sir just did a huge favor again, for those who missed it. Thank you!

[deltase]

JawsOfLife...
... you have one more subscriber! And many thanks for uploading the streams. I cant watch them live cause it's like 2 or 3 am in my country, when they are going.

[JawsOfLife]

JawsOfLife...
... you have one more subscriber! And many thanks for uploading the streams. I cant watch them live cause it's like 2 or 3 am in my country, when they are going.

Lol yeah I got a bunch of subscribers suddenly...makes me happy lol! I can understand why the reception to the last video wasn't that great, because the stream was so laggy. I mean it would plain freeze for 10 seconds at a time! But yeah I know people miss them, heck I don't even have time to watch all 2 hours at once so this helps me out too.

[mindmines]

Too bad I missed it:/

[AJay]

Thankyou based JawsofLife

[Joomba]

Is it just me, or is the newest footage far buggier than in previous videos?

[JawsOfLife]

Is it just me, or is the newest footage far buggier than in previous videos?

Well it is MILES better than the tech test footage. That had portions where the video would just freeze for seconds at a time. This at least is constant, though it does dip into teen fps occasionally.

[Joomba]

I was referring to the game being buggy, not the video. Higby was saying that the freezing was due to the live stream and was not on his end.

I don't think that the appearing/disappearing tanks and almost dying in the spawn tubes were caused by the streaming.

[Ertwin]

It's beta, expect bugs.

[JawsOfLife]

I was referring to the game being buggy, not the video. Higby was saying that the freezing was due to the live stream and was not on his end.

I don't think that the appearing/disappearing tanks and almost dying in the spawn tubes were caused by the streaming.

I see what you're saying, yeah we had people and vehicles disappearing in some cases, etc. But this is also the first time they've let hundreds upon hundreds in. I'm fairly confident these are just beta issues that will be fixed. it's only been in beta for a couple days :)

[Nolerhn]

Is it just me, or is the newest footage far buggier than in previous videos?

Well, that should be expected IMO. They're not doing internal testing anymore, they're now introducing the beta testers, filling up their servers and getting lots of players in one area. There's polishing and bug squashing to be done for sure.

[VikingPignvin]

How many people were on the servers? First when i heard they want to have 5-6 thousand ppl on one server i was very sceptical. But now im really starting to believe it really is going to happen :D

[JawsOfLife]

Well, good night all! Look forward to today's live stream next morning/afternoon (whenever I wake up :))

[Envenom]

Man... The streams are shit quality. They do the game no justice. There's some new leaked footage on youtube in full HD and the game looks STUNNING

[Delkaes]

The leaked one show a lot better whats going on.

Waiting now for the official 8/8 stream o7

[Disastersaurus]

Some leaked footage with much better quality.

(Edited for NDA violation.)

[Ivam Akorahil]

so, has someone uploaded the recorded stream yet?

[Delkaes]

so, has someone uploaded the recorded stream yet?

JawsOfLife says it take some hours to be uploaded. Maybe when he wake up ? :D

[Ivam Akorahil]

outrageous! he should have left the pc on overnight for the upload! its a social obligation :D

[JawsOfLife]

How does some random person have like 10x better recording quality than the Creative Director of the game?

[Disastersaurus]

Because it's not twitch.

[JawsOfLife]

JawsOfLife says it take some hours to be uploaded. Maybe when he wake up ? :D

It's set to public, so when it uploads you can see it whether I'm awake or not :) (Can't sleep btw)

[Ivam Akorahil]

i think its because streaming at ultra high quality 1080p would require a significantly insane amount of upload bandwidth. to prevent the live stream from lagging ever second i think he toned it down. Its different if you record it seperatly and then upload it

It's set to public, so when it uploads you can see it whether I'm awake or not :) (Can't sleep btw)

em em, em whats the eta on the upload finishing ? :> pwretty pweassse

[Ertwin]

i think its because streaming at ultra high quality 1080p would require a significantly insane amount of upload bandwidth. to prevent the live stream from lagging ever second i think he toned it down. Its different if you record it seperatly and then upload it



em em, em whats the eta on the upload finishing ? :> pwretty pweassse

I think he said 6am PST

[VikingPignvin]

How does some random person have like 10x better recording quality than the Creative Director of the game?


Recording with Fraps then uploading to Yt is way different than direct streaming a video feed.

[Ivam Akorahil]

I think he said 6am PST

but but, thats in 4 hours! IMPOSSIBLE :( i cannot handle waiting so long.. the horror - unbearable

back to battlefield 3 i guess :/

[Firearms]

How does some random person have like 10x better recording quality than the Creative Director of the game?

Higby's is a stream, which I dont think he has much experience setting up. Maggie's would be better.
The NDA noob is probably Fraps etc....
I didn't watch it for moral reasons, but good to see his HUD is set up different to Higby's showing some of the customisation - and he has a rotating mini-map against Hig's static :cool:

[JawsOfLife]

Higby's is a stream, which I dont think he has much experience setting up. Maggie's would be better.
The NDA noob is probably Fraps etc....
I didn't watch it for moral reasons, but good to see his HUD is set up different to Higby's showing some of the customisation - and he has a rotating mini-map against Hig's static :cool:

Yeah I do get the whole stream vs. recording and then uploading thing...it's 2 AM and I'm not thinking clearly :doh:

i think its because streaming at ultra high quality 1080p would require a significantly insane amount of upload bandwidth. to prevent the live stream from lagging ever second i think he toned it down. Its different if you record it seperatly and then upload it



em em, em whats the eta on the upload finishing ? :> pwretty pweassse

Youtube says a bit over 4 hours still...

[Carnage]

Because it's not twitch.

No its not, its an NDA Violation you were pluging after Higby stopped streaming... I can't find any upload, and all the posted ones are of yesterday, not the stream in question, have to wait for Jaws I guess...

[JawsOfLife]

No its not, its an NDA Violation you were pluging after Higby stopped streaming... I don't think any1 recorded this stream, I can't find any upload, and all the posted ones are of yesterday, not the stream in question.

I'm pretty sure that post was in response to the quality question I had, not an NDA question. Yes that other video was breaking NDA, notice how he blurred out player names and squad names to try and protect himself...

[Firearms]

I don't think any1 recorded this stream, I can't find any upload, and all the posted ones are of yesterday, not the stream in question.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Youtube says a bit over 4 hours still...

[Satexios]

PlanetSide 2 - 11 Min Gameplay [HD1080p] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tyvbnpNek)

Some leaked footage with much better quality.

And better game-play, shows the game much better than higby hiding behind a rock :P

[Ivam Akorahil]

youtube says a bit over 4 hours still...

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Astrok]

How does some random person have like 10x better recording quality than the Creative Director of the game?

Because hes not from this planet.

good footage btw!!!

[Ivam Akorahil]

i noticed in the leaked beta stream that the person often used to jump out of his aircraft and have it drop/damage into tanks

i personaly think there should be a mechanic in place to either not allow anz score for a kill made this way or no damage done to person or vehicle.

i personaly find this way of playing very unsporty, unrealistic and retarded, would be a shame to see things like "suicide buggies" and "suicide planes" hop over from battlefield to ps2 just because the person is otherwise unable to kill an enemy. I mean, as fun as it is now and again, it certainly isnt fun anymore if out of 2000 players on a continent 500 are doing this suicidal stuff.

[IAMDANIEL]

Thank you Jaws!

[Memeotis]

6:32 - 6:40 gave me a semi. It's those moments, where a tight cluster of infantry is fighting another cluster that you have the most amazing moments of teamwork.

[Firearms]

i personaly find this way of playing very unsporty, unrealistic and retarded, would be a shame to see things like "suicide buggies" and "suicide planes" hop over from battlefield to ps2 just because the person is otherwise unable to kill an enemy. I mean, as fun as it is now and again, it certainly isnt fun anymore if out of 2000 players on a continent 500 are doing this suicidal stuff.

Japan thought the same 70 years ago and got over it pretty fast. And there have been suicide raids where you kind of planned to survive for longer still. SAS loading jeeps with explosives for example...so again, they thought it was unsporting, unrealistic and retarded but got over it...
Besides, it costs a life and resources to do it - unlike BF.

IMO

[Syphus]

Japan thought the same 70 years ago and got over it pretty fast. And there have been suicide raids where you kind of planned to survive for longer still. SAS loading jeeps with explosives for example...so again, they thought it was unsporting, unrealistic and retarded but got over it...
Besides, it costs a life and resources to do it - unlike BF.

IMO

And it "worked" for Japan.

Anyway, the answer to this would probably just be to tweak the resource cost of vehicles or the timers.

As far as Battlefield, it's been in there since 1942.

[Liwen Diamond]

Crashing your own plane into a vehicule coould sometimes make sense, when you are low on health and ammo or just plain out of ammo. The maker of the video demonstrated you can even survive the suicidal move and keep on fighting on foot.

All in all, I'd say it would be a case by case basis, also very dependent on how easy and quick it is to resupply the plane. If I'm out of ammo but can go back to an air base and resupply, then fly back to the battlefield under 2 minutes, I would.

In the PSverse, crashing your plane on enemy key targets could even be considered a standard strategy. Remember your life is 100% expendable since you're just going to pop back right into the fight within minutes of your death. Same goes for the plane. The only reasons you would not do so : a) You can deal more sustained damage and keep the pressure on your enemy higher by using your regular weapons and b) If you happen to be currently low on ressources.

PS2, dreamland of the kamikaze!

[Zeruel]

Add a cert "protects you from vehicle impacts" *g*. Its basically a balancing issue. You should have to think about "will i really sacrifice this vehicle" or fly back and repair restock it. the decision should not be done by the game aka "planes equal huge one shot bullets for free". It should be a decision made by the soldier/commander to sacrifice the resources of the plane for the tactical advance you get out of it.

[Ivam Akorahil]

i basicly simply mean it should not pay off as much as in battlefield, yes you suicide but you get a ton of points for c4 ing the enemy tank including yourself, its plain retarded

[HeatLegend]

Did Jaws or someone upload Aug 8 yet? I see people thanking him but all I can see is the stream from the 7th.

[Zeruel]

he is still uploading i guess.

[Liwen Diamond]

Did Jaws or someone upload Aug 8 yet? I see people thanking him but all I can see is the stream from the 7th.

He said Youtube is working on it. Should be up within the next hour.

[Monkey]

They probs thanking him for the 7th upload cause I can't find the 8th yet.

[Syphus]

Speaking of almost dying when spawning, anyone remember the PS bug where the spawn tubes wouldn't open?

[Zeruel]

8th August is online

Planetside 2 Closed Beta Live Stream (August 8th) - YouTube

thanks jaws!

[maddoggg]

Hey guys there it is:

Planetside 2 Closed Beta Live Stream (August 8th) - YouTube

Big thx Jaws :)

Edit:Zeruel beat me to it with a milisecond :lol:

[Liwen Diamond]

Two hours! Nice. Thanks a bunch Jaws.

[VikingPignvin]

Thanks! I wonder if we're able to view the current number of vehicles deployed sorted by type,faction.

[Ertwin]

Add a cert "protects you from vehicle impacts" *g*. Its basically a balancing issue. You should have to think about "will i really sacrifice this vehicle" or fly back and repair restock it. the decision should not be done by the game aka "planes equal huge one shot bullets for free". It should be a decision made by the soldier/commander to sacrifice the resources of the plane for the tactical advance you get out of it.

The planes will never be free bullets, they will always cost resources, so they'll be expensive bullets.

[Delkaes]

Your the man Jaws !

[Ivam Akorahil]

downloading from youtube in 1080p :< 1 1/2h left

[Boone]

On my way to watch now.

77 views? Kind of saddening. I know it just went up..but..damn.

[Monkey]

2 hours? holy shit

[SirWhiteshadow]

Thanks, Buddy.

[Monkey]

Not working on 1080p

[Liwen Diamond]

Well that was positively awesome. Just finished watching the 2 hours of fighting. Higby and his NC companions tried to assault the area known as "The Crown" and weed out the Vanu out of there for 3/4th of this video.

Spoiler alert, they failed. That place is a bloody forteress...

[Delkaes]

I am only at the middle of the vid and still don't know why they don't take a pack of galaxy and drop all squad on base -_-

[Noctis]

It was a really bad place to attack from, plus they didn't use vehicles. Sort of suicide.

[Bocheezu]

I am only at the middle of the vid and still don't know why they don't take a pack of galaxy and drop all squad on base -_-

Nobody does, honestly. It's maddening to watch. I'd rather see a failed drop than the same footzerg for 30+ mins.

[Mox]

Seems like we will bounce out of the scope view after each shot with the sniperrifle.

I dont like it at all and hope it will be changed soon.

[Noctis]

Seems like we will bounce out of the scope view after each shot with the sniperrifle.

I dont like it at all and hope it will be changed soon.

How do you reload a bolt action rifle without moving your eyes from the scope sorry?

[MrKWalmsley]

To Dart (the guy arguing with me before saying that the stat screen did not promote what I said it would, and that I shouldn't speak about it until I have knowledge of it) fuck you. As show by the live stream, the stats are even worse than expected, the entire left column is dedicated to killing and deaths, with 14 stats for it as well as a three-part graph for it and a pie chart!

And where are the important stats for teamplay? In only two generalised forms, and shoved to the side of the board. I'm not even going to go into the fact that there are two tabs at the top dedicated to specifics regarding how you kill and die, because that would be overkill!

In future, try not bullshit your way through an argument, tends to shine you in a bad light when the truth comes right around the corner!

[Boomhowser]

I am only at the middle of the vid and still don't know why they don't take a pack of galaxy and drop all squad on base -_-

well at least you'll have a plan for your squad when you get to that situation :groovy:

I however do not think any one galaxy would have lasted long if they had tried for a drop, no idea how large the flight ceiling is but the area they were assaulting is a tall facility ontop of a mountain.. any aircav approaching the location would get ripped apart it seemed to me.. so looking forward to the day I can enter beta and see how it really plays out instead of guessing.

[Mox]

How do you reload a bolt action rifle without moving your eyes from the scope sorry?

1. PS2 isn't a simulation.
2. PS2 has a setting in the far future.
Therefore we don't need a mechanic recharge animation after each single shot. Sniperrifles in 2600 are automated recharged without getting a tennis elbow.

Furthermore, i want to see my enemy dying in scope view.

[Syphus]

I can only hope they do something about that, the flight ceiling made things on high terrain very unfriendly. In PS1 for example, by the time you got to the top on Serhaus you could pretty much take down the planes with a pool skimmer.

Regardless though, at least some Air Power and a Liberator or five would've helped. You have a base on a giant cliff with one road leading straight up into it. You're not gonna punch through that without some air or a large column of Armor.

Sidenote: If Engineers can build some sort of mortar emplacement, that would be helpful as well.

[MrKWalmsley]

1. PS2 isn't a simulation.
2. PS2 has a setting in the far future.
Therefore we don't need a mechanic recharge animation after each single shot. Sniperrifles in 2600 are automated recharged without getting a tennisarm.

Furthermore, i want to see my enemy dying in scope view.

We have seen plenty of times that the characters do manually cock the bolt, so that is invalid.

You would be better off saying that:
"The bolt does not go far back enough to force you to move your head like some modern sniper rifles, so there is no need to take your eye from the scope."

Hell, even people today can cock a Beretta without having to take their eyes off the scope.

[Noctis]

1. PS2 isn't a simulation.
2. PS2 has a setting in the far future.
Therefore we don't need a mechanic recharge animation after each single shot. Sniperrifles in 2600 are automated recharged without getting a tennis elbow.

Furthermore, i want to see my enemy dying in scope view.

That would be overpowered.

[Mox]

That would be overpowered.

That doesn't mean it should be possible to shoot without delay. You should hear the rifle recharging but without bouncing out of scope view.

[Noctis]

I'm a sniper myself, I'd wreck havoc with such a thing. Plus they would have to add some effect like tremble while reloading don't think it will happen.

[Revanmug]

That would be overpowered.

Wut? I guess you played every class and already know the best balance for something as small as a "get out of ADS to load next bullet". It's not the end of the world but it is an annoying mechanic since yes, you don't need to constantly peak out of scope to load up the next bullet.

This has nothing to do with balance but...
The animation is just stupid. The sniper point his gun in the air to slide the bolt action like if it was hardcore to move the mechanism.

Edit: Wreak havoc? Lol... the only difference is if you can hold breath inbetween shot and that's about it. Remove that and there is little diffrence except vision. Actually, removing that mechanic would be best to make a difference between bad/slightly better player. Tunnel vision is remove with a constant peak out.

[Noctis]

Wut? I guess you played every class and already know the best balance for something as small as a "get out of ADS to load next bullet". It's not the end of the world but it is an annoying mechanic since yes, you don't need to constantly peak out of scope to load up the next bullet.

This has nothing to do with balance but...
The animation is just stupid. The sniper point his gun in the air to slide the bolt action like if it was hardcore to move the mechanism.

If the sniper is allowed to keep his xhair on the target while reloading the bolt action mechanism it will surely be "sniper game".

The animation is indeed excessive, but try to understand why it's that way first.

[PhoenixDog]

1. PS2 isn't a simulation.
2. PS2 has a setting in the far future.
Therefore we don't need a mechanic recharge animation after each single shot. Sniperrifles in 2600 are automated recharged without getting a tennis elbow.

Furthermore, i want to see my enemy dying in scope view.

Turn off automatic reload. That way you can wait to see your target die before reloading out of scope

[Boone]

Just gone done watching video.

Pros - Almost everything. Game looks amazing, hard to tell how everything was running by the stream. I payed attention to some chat though and looks like Nvidia users are having decent FPS.

Cons - The MAX sounds like it runs on tin can shoes. Should sound more hydraulic I think. The portals that lead into bases, etc seem like a paradise for campers.

I could of done without the hour long rock standoff.

[Revanmug]

If the sniper is allowed to keep his xhair on the target while reloading the bolt action mechanism it will surely be "sniper game".

The animation is indeed excessive, but try to understand why it's that way first.

Looking at the stream and the shaking when you get hit, any AR will be as good since it got 0 recoil and 0 deviation making as good for look range. Just rewatch it. Higby got a few kills from bridge to the other side of the cliff. It was a simple point gun on triangle and single shot until you get a kill indicator.

So please, since we both haven't play the game, tell me how you came to the conclusion of "sniper game" when other weapon are almost as effective.

[Mox]

If the sniper is allowed to keep his xhair on the target while reloading the bolt action mechanism it will surely be "sniper game"

It was possible in PS1 and wasn't OP at all. So why shouldn't it work in PS2?

[Noctis]

Still none gave me an answer on "Why has been made this way?" People just say things are wrong but don't give any reason beside "Actual way sucks".

[Mox]

Still none gave me an answer on "Why has been made this way?"

They did it that way because Higby said: "We need a fancy reload animation. Something that looks like in WW2. The animation should popup as often as possible. Just to make sure that BF Sniper-players like the game". :D

[Revanmug]

Still none gave me an answer on "Why has been made this way?" People just say things are wrong but don't give any reason beside "Actual way sucks".

And I guess you know? Fairly certain only the devs could know making your question quite... stupid.

It could be for :

-Making it cool looking
-Slow down bolt action sniper which mean, NC only (I'm sure that the only thing you wanted to hear)
-Have a future cerp upgrade to make it more powerful later
-etc.

Now, what has been done doesn't mean it is right. Balance wise, you can't just tell me the devs know more than the players. Sorry higby and co. but balancing things when you can't play at good performance is kinda hard. But good for them and us, beta exists and mistake can be corrected.

You tell me it's perfect. I tell you from experience and from the stream that balance wise, I don't believe this will be an issue since automatics are as precise as a sniper. Put a high power scope and you have a fully automatics sniper with 100 bullets magazine that never has to peak out. hell, you know the VS and TR sniper are semi right? They can't one shot right. But they can easily put 2 shot under a sec making an almost instant kill. They can then switch target and do the same until the magazine is empty.

[Klockan]

It was possible in PS1 and wasn't OP at all. So why shouldn't it work in PS2?
The PS1 sniper sucked in other ways, if you give something you need to take something else.

[Noctis]

The bullet drop doesn't exist, it's an extremely big issue, I was going to make a whole thread about it, actually no weapon has considerabily bullet drop.

Maybe are 2600 weapons able to push the bullets? No, I just think we saw higby sniping with a machinegun a sniper on the other side of the facility on a high peak without calclulating bulletdrop.

Back to the sniper thing, everyfaction should be able to use a BA rifle somehow, anyway "1hko" (on headshot) weapons need as many nerf as possible. (Thus I really think actual sniping is really hard on long ranges)

[Sledgecrushr]

Bump...

Planetside 2 Closed Beta Live Stream (August 8th) - YouTube

[Syphus]

I can't watch it again, The hour long Crown fest makes me yell at the screen.

[Rivenshield]

Initial impressions:

Even small-scale battles like these are wonderfully, satisfyingly NOISY. And the weapon sounds are distinct enough to be useful. The sound design guys should pat themselves on the back.

As other exasperated vets have observed, even a small Gal drop could have proven usefully disruptive to the attacking smurfs. If the first doesn't work, keep repeating. They're fun as hell and buy time for the attackers on the ground to worm their way in closer.

I am *so* not impressed with the amount of running one has to do. I saw no place to land a Galaxy where it would not be instantly targeted and blown to pixels... but plenty of nooks and crannies where an ice cream truck might fit. BRING BACK THE AMS (and make it small enough to fit in a Gal!)

[Syphus]

There was the one under the bridge, and then the two on either side of the Crown.

[JawsOfLife]

I posted a new thread for yesterday's stream before realizing it'd already been posted here....ah well. I guess it'll clear up some space for discussion.

[Rivenshield]

Crashing your own plane into a vehicule coould sometimes make sense, when you are low on health and ammo or just plain out of ammo.
A short delay when entering or leaving a vehicle would prevent this. Unless one is certed for an ejection seat in an air vehicle, natch. (It'd be simple enough to say that the ejection charge destroys the vehicle, so it goes spinning wildly out of control and on fire).

And it *should* be prevented. There were no jihad jeeps in PS1, just people fighting like mad to the death -- and gameplay was much much better for it. This should be about battle, not sploiting. You can bet your ass that this new generation of console kiddies will turn their air vehicles into self-guided cruise missiles as often as they can until their empire runs out of resources, then log off in boredom.

[Syphus]

Tell that to the ****.

[RoninOni]

You can bet your ass that this new generation of console kiddies will turn their air vehicles into self-guided cruise missiles as often as they can until their empire runs out of resources, then log off in boredom.

Thank god vehicles are purchased with personal resources then and not empire pool....

they can burn their credits all day long to minimal effect.

I do think Enter/Exit delays would be a boon however, but we're already planning on performing high speed LAOS drops (low altitude, overshield [heavy assault ability]).

I dunno I think it would be good if you could only enter/exit air vehicles at hover altitude (~10ft off the ground or less, and under 5-10MPH speed) unless there is a troop drop (lib gunner/galaxy passengers) or ejector seat (pilots) option (obv exit only). Land vehicles could be exited at any time, but still having a delay would improve things.

nothing huge, just enough

[Masterr]

@ 1:50:30

What made all those explosions happen? Lib? Hellfire missles from reaver? that was awesome.....

[Toppopia]

Initial impressions:

Even small-scale battles like these are wonderfully, satisfyingly NOISY. And the weapon sounds are distinct enough to be useful. The sound design guys should pat themselves on the back.


I am *so* not impressed with the amount of running one has to do. I saw no place to land a Galaxy where it would not be instantly targeted and blown to pixels... but plenty of nooks and crannies where an ice cream truck might fit. BRING BACK THE AMS (and make it small enough to fit in a Gal!)

I agree with the first point, battles look epic, even with what looks like maybe 100-200 people fighting? Imagine more than that. And i can't wait to see outfits working together, so having massive air support helping those poor NC cap that base :doh:

And the second point. I don't want galaxies to beable to be landed 10 metres away from an enemy base, galaxies are there to stop you from having to spawn at a far away base. And every square inch has been designed for combat, so why would we take away the open areas from being fought on? And i want to see epic couple hundred metre charges towards a big base. D-day :D

We must fight for every grain of sand :lol:

[Electrofreak]

so its ok if Higby can go against NDA?

Higby rolls with twelve gangs. He does what he wants.

@ 1:50:30

What made all those explosions happen? Lib? Hellfire missles from reaver? that was awesome.....

Liberator bomber.