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Frizzled
2012-08-09, 02:12 PM
If you sub before they email next the round of invites, you'll be considered a vet:

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/233565266477453312

Also, this round will happen before Twitter invites get in.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 02:19 PM
I can buy (earlier... already guaranteed) Beta access?


so tempting.......

Infektion
2012-08-09, 02:41 PM
If you sub before they email next the round of invites, you'll be considered a vet:

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/233565266477453312

Also, this round will happen before Twitter invites get in.

SOE just takes the greatness out of being an actual vet... it kinda sounds like real life right now :rofl:

Rivenshield
2012-08-09, 02:45 PM
/shrug

All that means to me is there aren't enough authentic veterans to stress-test the servers. Which means more warm bodies running around. Which is a good thing.

Infektion
2012-08-09, 02:47 PM
/shrug

All that means to me is there aren't enough authentic veterans to stress-test the servers. Which means more warm bodies running around. Which is a good thing.

yea, but the principle of the matter is, US vets, aren't IN before these kids.

Zeruel
2012-08-09, 02:48 PM
especially because the waves are divided under each one itself. so next wave will basically be multiple invite waves for inactive vets....

Frizzled
2012-08-09, 03:08 PM
so next wave will basically be multiple invite waves for inactive vets....

Or people who lost the credentials ...

I had a PS1 account from 03 to 05, but the password and email address for it are long gone. =(

WWladCZ
2012-08-09, 03:09 PM
Aw no not again... Another spam of kids will buy themselves beta.

Bags
2012-08-09, 03:13 PM
Aw no not again... Another spam of kids will buy themselves beta.

Why does buying beta make them a kid? It's $10, skip going out to eat twice next week! :groovy:

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 03:26 PM
Why does buying beta make them a kid? It's $10, skip going out to eat twice next week! :groovy:

You can eat out twice for $10??????

dafuq you live? Somalia?

Comet
2012-08-09, 03:29 PM
I was just thinking the same thing Ronin. Me thinks Bags is eating at Taco Bell too much - lol.

Lumberchuk
2012-08-09, 03:32 PM
You can eat out twice for $10??????

dafuq you live? Somalia?

Close...try McDonalds

Goku
2012-08-09, 03:33 PM
You can eat out twice for $10??????

dafuq you live? Somalia?

McDonalds does wonders. Must be Bags favorite place.

I guess this shouldn't be a shocker. SOE didn't bar this from happening from the first wave. Why not the others?

Comet
2012-08-09, 03:33 PM
I don't see the big deal personally.

Liwen Diamond
2012-08-09, 03:38 PM
When they announced that one of the preorder perks of preordering TERA was access to all the beta tests, I didn't hesitate a second. Because all I did was spend the 60$ I would have spend to buy the game on release a few months later anyway. But in this case it would be quite silly to do so, because the game is free to play. I would do it if they did a promotion like the following : "Preorder 10$ (or the Station Cash equivalent) on PS2 cosmetic items for your soldier and get priority access to the PS2 Beta!"

This way I get two things I want, I get to play the game earlier and look totally badass doing so and SOE already begins to generate revenue from their F2P model. It's a honest win-win deal, at least it's way less shady than buying a game we likely won't even bother to install because we can't handle the wait.

Right now anyone that buy PS1 just to get into beta is literally paying for the privilege to work for SOE.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 03:40 PM
McDonalds does wonders. Must be Bags favorite place.


I gave up McDonalds and fast food years ago... always forget how cheap it is lol (only reason I ate there so long... bloody $1 dbl cheeseburgers)

but its SO bad for you it just didn't make sense. I only eat for the health aspect of it... hell if I'm going to poison myself instead :P

Srsly tho, anyone seen those photos of burgers that have sat on a counter for 3-4 YEARS? slightly shriveled (due to dehydrating) but that's about it... dafuq??

anyways yah... I'm seriously tempted by this offer, despite already dropping $5 on my PC Gamer key. I mean, they'll get the money in my support, so that's not a terrible thing, and I'll get in 1-2 weeks earlier :D

Eff me... I think I'm doing it right now >.< ... Must... resist... spending.... money.........

Wish I could apply that 500 station cash I gots layin around left over from the 4th sale lol


Right now anyone that buy PS1 just to get into beta is literally paying for the privilege to work for SOE.

Unquestionably.....

and the problem with that is? :groovy:

Scotsh
2012-08-09, 03:46 PM
/shrug

All that means to me is there aren't enough authentic veterans to stress-test the servers. Which means more warm bodies running around. Which is a good thing.

For that they just have to invite the keyholders earlier. I think it's just cheap way to get a few $ from ppl without patience. Just like they did with the first phase.
I really dont like this move, cheap cash grab.

Firearms
2012-08-09, 03:48 PM
I really dont like this move, cheap cash grab.

Tell that to the guys selling zebra camo....oh wai

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 03:52 PM
I really dont like this move, cheap cash grab.

and? It's a business, they need profits... if this helps them earn more funding for development prior to launch how is that a bad thing?

Chrispin
2012-08-09, 03:57 PM
When they announced that one of the preorder perks of preordering TERA was access to all the beta tests, I didn't hesitate a second. Because all I did was spend the 60$ I would have spend to buy the game on release a few months later anyway. But in this case it would be quite silly to do so, because the game is free to play. I would do it if they did a promotion like the following : "Preorder 10$ (or the Station Cash equivalent) on PS2 cosmetic items for your soldier and get priority access to the PS2 Beta!"

This way I get two things I want, I get to play the game earlier and look totally badass doing so and SOE already begins to generate revenue from their F2P model. It's a honest win-win deal, at least it's way less shady than buying a game we likely won't even bother to install because we can't handle the wait.

Right now anyone that buy PS1 just to get into beta is literally paying for the privilege to work for SOE.

I'm a vet, but that's why I didn't get in to the first wave. I wasn't about to pay for a game that I know I'm not going to play.

Comet
2012-08-09, 03:57 PM
I always find it interesting when people get upset when a business does something that makes them money. Have you been living under a rock?

They could either invite you or someone else who is willing to pay $10 for your spot that could fill an identical role as you. Of course they're going to take the money, why wouldn't they? In the end, the cash goes towards funding a better PS2 experience anyway.

Scotsh
2012-08-09, 03:57 PM
and? It's a business, they need profits... if this helps them earn more funding for development prior to launch how is that a bad thing?

Well maybe i am just an old fashioned european guy you thinks all parts of society (including corperations) should maintain some form of responsiblity against exploitive behaviour. But i guess in this age corporate greed trumps all :rolleyes:

Comet
2012-08-09, 03:59 PM
How is this exploitive? They've realized they have something people are willing to pay for and so they sell it. What the hell do you think a business is?

Chrispin
2012-08-09, 04:01 PM
I always find it interesting when people get upset when a business does something that makes them money. Have you been living under a rock?

They could either invite you or someone else who is willing to pay $10 for your spot that could fill an identical role as you. Of course they're going to take the money, why wouldn't they? In the end, the cash goes towards funding a better PS2 experience anyway.

I would have paid the $10 if it also gave me station cash. I know they're a business, but it doesn't mean I can't complain about their prices.

SFJake
2012-08-09, 04:04 PM
How is this exploitive? They've realized they have something people are willing to pay for and so they sell it. What the hell do you think a business is?

The art of abusing idiots doesn't make it right, but I digress.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 04:05 PM
But i guess in this age corporate greed trumps all :rolleyes:

erm, that's a pretty GLOBAL truth these days.... hardly something only us "dirty americans" are guilty of.

And for the record, I'm actually extremely ANTI-corporate.

They could either invite you or someone else who is willing to pay $10 for your spot that could fill an identical role as you. Of course they're going to take the money, why wouldn't they? In the end, the cash goes towards funding a better PS2 experience anyway.
^Pretty much this.

As someone else said "I'd preorder for included beta access but it's F2P"

exactly, it will be FREE TO PLAY... so personally I have small qualms with supporting the company for earlier access ... sure I may not get that investment returned as Station Cash to be used on launch (have 500 sitting there waiting for PS2 already anyways) so it would be considered kinda like buying a convenience item... the convenience of not ripping my hair out from anxiety lolol.

Comet
2012-08-09, 04:18 PM
Chrispin and Linew have valid arguments. I am sure more people would pay for beta access if it included some SC too. I personally think that's a better way to go about it but it's also a separate point from the opinion that selling some beta slots is just down right greedy and exploitive.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 04:26 PM
Chrispin and Linew have valid arguments. I am sure more people would pay for beta access if it included some SC too. I personally think that's a better way to go about it but it's also a separate point from the opinion that selling some beta slots is just down right greedy and exploitive.
I think the issue here is more that subscribing to PS1 simply takes advantage of the Queue priority system, whereas outright selling beta access would be something else entirely IMO.

This is more consequential of circumstance than some evil twisted corporate plot of global takeover by greedy money grubbing actions.

Actually, after the keys, and before open beta, I could very well see them offering Station Cash purchases for beta access.

Masterr
2012-08-09, 04:29 PM
greedy and exploitive for selling beta? there was a demand...and they supplied. thats how business works. if you think its greedy/exploitive, dont buy your entrance into beta and wait. really don't know why people are butt hurt about this.

Kipper
2012-08-09, 05:29 PM
Firstly, going back a few posts - going to McDonalds is not "going out to eat". I mean yes, technically you have to go out to get there, you eat when you do, and they call them restaurants - but still.... its just... different!

Secondly... As long as *you* get in, why would you even give a flake of crap who else did and how they did? You are forgetting that this is a game they give you for free and that you may play for free. What exactly do they owe you?

And for those who think its selling access and its lame, well... don't buy it then? The ultimate power with a transaction of this kind is with the customer, its not like you'll die without PS2 in your life..... Now, if your doctor was withholding life-saving drugs until you paid him some money, that might be different.....

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 05:36 PM
Now, if your doctor was withholding life-saving drugs until you paid him some money, that might be different.....

The sad thing is that happens here ALL the time >.<

SpcFarlen
2012-08-09, 05:38 PM
If you want to pay to get into beta... sure why not. But dont complain when you dont get in.

Too much complaining about being GIVEN something already.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 05:43 PM
^LOL ur talking about his "It's just business"

indeed

as I said though, it's more simply leveraging the Beta Queue Priority system more than them literally SELLING beta access

Maniox
2012-08-09, 05:47 PM
Beta is not supposed to be fun, If you really want to enter the beta this much, you have very little do to there. Wait for your invite, the people that currently are in beta should also not be so super happy about it, because they have their task to do, not to pew pew n00bs with their l33t sniper.

Either you get in beta, or you don't.

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 05:49 PM
im not gonna pay money for beta out of principle.

beta is for bug testing and helping the devs smooth out the gameplay. its not early access.

Hamma
2012-08-09, 05:50 PM
Remember to be nice guys. Otherwise this will just end up closed like the rest of these threads.

Kipper
2012-08-09, 05:56 PM
Really... "Corporate Greed" is more like when there's a product you really need, can't get elsewhere, and so the price is made unreasonable knowing you're trapped.

An entertainment computer game is not really needed, there are others you can get, and actually - the price isn't that unreasonable - imagine how much PS2 has cost to make?

Other than that, it really is just business - and businesses exist in the economy for one reason only, which is to make money for their shareholders. A business isn't a complex individual like a person, in itself, it doesn't have emotions or a conscience, those things are left to the person(s) who control the business and that often leads to a conflict of interest between "how do we make the most money?" and "how do I feel about what I'm doing?".... Add in a multiple people making the descisions and having other people to blame/not wanting to appear weak etc and the "how do I feel" usually falls by the wayside pretty quickly....!

Satyxis
2012-08-09, 05:57 PM
I, for one, am very glad they opened up this option. I played the HECK out of PS1, even went back after a few years and played some more in like 2006-2007, but college got really tough, and I stopped playing again. In the years after that, I lost my account info, and couldn't get it all verified, so when they put out the call for Veterans, I was left out. Now i can still get in and play a game I am really excited about. I don't mind paying for PS1, I liked the game before, and I am sure I can still have some fun there in the near future.

BlueSkies
2012-08-09, 06:10 PM
CoD Black Ops 2 is right around the corner too with three team multiplayer death
match and futuristic weapons. Act like you have competition SOE, cause you do.

...

oh! That was a joke!

I get it now :D

kidwithstick
2012-08-09, 06:21 PM
I think its funny that theres "vets" in right now asking on chat "what's a MAX?"

SOE is silly. But they are a company out to make money and thats what there going to do... make that money.

Ivam Akorahil
2012-08-09, 06:38 PM
and? It's a business, they need profits... if this helps them earn more funding for development prior to launch how is that a bad thing?

if they would sell hello kitty suits, people would also wear it ingame, at the expense of other customers who dont want to see that crap / i dont see the difference to zebra camo

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 06:40 PM
i am planning to shell out hundreds of dollars for planetside 2 down the road. but im not gonna pay a cent for beta. if there was an official founders club like mechwarriors, sure. but this was quickly implemented for a quick buck.

if we encourage this kind of behaviour from SOE, how can we trust them with the game in later years? how do we know planetside 2 wont turn pay 2 win when SOE is acting like this before the game is even released?

we as gamers should discourage shady business on our part, by not giving in with our wallets.

the more i think about this the more rational i become about planetside 2, and i have realized despite all the hype and my excitement, its just a game.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:41 PM
CoD Black Ops 2 is right around the corner too with three team multiplayer death
match and futuristic weapons. Act like you have competition SOE, cause you do.

:huh:


:lol:


:rofl:

Comet
2012-08-09, 06:43 PM
I wish I could draw those internet pictures made from dots, lines and slashes. Know that one picture of the guy facepalming? That's Hamma for sure when he sees these threads.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:45 PM
i am planning to shell out hundreds of dollars for planetside 2 down the road. but im not gonna pay a cent for beta. if there was an official founders club like mechwarriors, sure. but this was quickly implemented for a quick buck.

if we encourage this kind of behaviour from SOE, how can we trust them with the game in later years? how do we know planetside 2 wont turn pay 2 win when SOE is acting like this before the game is even released?


the more i think about this the more rational i become about planetside 2, and i have realized despite all the hype and my excitement, its just a game.

FFS! How many times do I need to iterate this point...

THEY AREN'T TRYING TO SELL THE BETA FOR A QUICK BUCK. SOMEONE ASKED IF REGISTERING NOW WOULD SET THEM IN THAT PRIORITY GROUP AND THE DEV RESPONDED HONESTLY.

They created a priority queue system for bringing in Beta players, it so happens that the top level priority is PS1 ACTIVE sub, and that you can get one RIGHT NOW.

It's circumstantial, not some fund raising scheme.... otherwise instead of blasting twitter to hand out free keys they'd be posting to the public how to "buy" beta access.... they didn't they just answered an honest question.

My bloody god peoples...... :doh:

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 06:46 PM
They created a priority queue system for bringing in Beta players, it so happens that the top level priority is PS1 ACTIVE sub, and that you can get one RIGHT NOW.


it was originally active before july.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:47 PM
if they would sell hello kitty suits, people would also wear it ingame, at the expense of other customers who dont want to see that crap / i dont see the difference to zebra camo

And this one...
/facepalm

#1) TOTALLY off-topic brah

#2) Zebra suits actually have some 'camo' to them... how's that you say? You DO realize zebras have those natural stripes as natural camoflage right? That's a FAAAR cry from bright pink hello kitty suits. In fact, there are similiar RL patterns used... granted not quite so literally.

Kipper
2012-08-09, 06:48 PM
when SOE is acting like this before the game is even released?.

What are they acting like exactly? They said if you've ever been subscribed to PS1 you'd get in the next round of invites, subscribing right now would fall in that category.

...Unless they said if you've ever been subscribed to it before a certain arbitrary date, but then who sets that date? And is that any fairer?

Technically, it's an exploit, but its one they don't need to fix because it doesn't affect gameplay and if a few people want to spend a bit of money to get an early look at the game... why would devote any resources to stopping them? Makes no sense to.

The point being - nobody's forcing anyone to pay to get in, and the people that do pay are getting in in addition to the existing vets, not instead of. Nobody's missing out.

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 06:48 PM
id pay for a hello kitty camo.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:48 PM
it was originally active before july.

what was?

Did you miss the tweet that started this whole fiasco of a thread?

jsmedley responded to a tweet saying that if you are an active sub at the time they send out the next wave of invites, then you will be considered an active vet for the invitation phase.

Ivam Akorahil
2012-08-09, 06:49 PM
And this one...
/facepalm

#1) TOTALLY off-topic brah

#2) Zebra suits actually have some 'camo' to them... how's that you say? You DO realize zebras have those natural stripes as natural camoflage right? That's a FAAAR cry from bright pink hello kitty suits. In fact, there are similiar RL patterns used... granted not quite so literally.

iam aware that there are similar zebra styles in real life but , honestly when was the last time you saw something like that? ive been in the army, and ive my sergeant would have told me to crawl in a zebra snow camo suit i would have laughed at him

anyways back to topic :V

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:52 PM
iam aware that there are similar zebra styles in real life but , honestly when was the last time you saw something like that? ive been in the army, and ive my sergeant would have told me to crawl in a zebra snow camo suit i would have laughed at him

anyways back to topic :V
as I noted that was way OT...

and I didn't say it didn't have it's own level of absurdity whatsoever... I was only saying that comparing the zebra pattern to a hellokitty skin is even more absurd than comparing 'real camo' (which makes up the majority of options even ffs) to the zebra pattern

Poser
2012-08-09, 06:53 PM
I think its funny that theres "vets" in right now asking on chat "what's a MAX?"

SOE is silly. But they are a company out to make money and thats what there going to do... make that money.

What a crazy concept.

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 06:54 PM
What a crazy concept.

i dont mind paying money, but i dont like being milked.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 06:55 PM
i dont mind paying money, but i dont like being milked.

and who's milking you?

You can keep your same priority level at absolutely no cost.

They few people who pick up on this and take advantage of this vet loophole are not going to make a significant impact on the rest of those waiting....

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 06:56 PM
and who's milking you?

You can keep your same priority level at absolutely no cost

SOE is pulling at my teets but no milk is coming out.

Ayasaki
2012-08-09, 07:01 PM
They few people who pick up on this and take advantage of this vet loophole are not going to make a significant impact on the rest of those waiting....

Ya since they said we will get in around 2-4 weeks time so....a few hundred vets who supported the game by buying the last one do deserve to get in before the rest of us who got keys for nothing.

Kipper
2012-08-09, 07:01 PM
SOE is pulling at my teets but no milk is coming out.

Um, disgusting. But anyway- wasn't this just from a tweet? Tweets are like... throwaway comments.

Being 'milked' would be a massive banner on the PS2 page and all over every piece of marketing they have saying "INSTANT BETA ACCESS > BUY NOW"... which I haven't seen.

RoninOni
2012-08-09, 07:07 PM
Being 'milked' would be a massive banner on the PS2 page and all over every piece of marketing they have saying "INSTANT BETA ACCESS > BUY NOW"... which I haven't seen.

^QFT

This is circumstantial based on their priority system, it's just that there's a way around it to get in a whole 2 weeks sooner (or, if you haven't even got a key yet, potentially MONTHS sooner)

I have not seen them suggest ANYWHERE to become a Vet to gain access. All I've seen is that 1 tweet reply.

And actually, a month ago I went looking for PS1 in the SOE store and it wasn't even on the main page.... I planned on buying it then to guarantee my access :D

However It appeared like it was off market, and I ended up getting keys so forgot about it... when I saw that tweet I dug a lil harder and found it for sale on another page. (I was looking at the "Add a product to your Account" page off account management first time, I could buy anything BUT PS1)

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 07:08 PM
Ya since they said we will get in around 2-4 weeks time so....a few hundred vets who supported the game by buying the last one do deserve to get in before the rest of us who got keys for nothing.

people arent buying to support the devs. they are buying to get ahead of players. this in itself is a form of competition. even before playing the game people are trying to get an upperhand over the others. in my opinion, this only hints at the things to come.

Kipper
2012-08-09, 07:12 PM
people arent buying to support the devs. they are buying to get ahead of players. this in itself is a form of competition.

No, its a form of impatience. Just a sign that the game is looking good that people are willing to spend a little to get into it.

They aren't getting ahead of anyone except people who don't play PS1, never played it, and aren't willing to subscribe to one months worth of it. What's unreasonable about that?

FINALCUT
2012-08-09, 07:21 PM
As a current subscriber to PS1 ( No I didn't buy it to get into Beta,been subbed for a long time now. ) I can say that this is a good thing.

The more people that get in to test stuff and break things the better.

Bruttal
2012-08-09, 07:39 PM
when is the next wave of invites?.

Micheal Phelpz
2012-08-09, 07:42 PM
when is the next wave of invites?.

Half life 2 Episode 3, or the Rapture, most likely the latter and not the former

Comet
2012-08-09, 07:50 PM
Bruttal, they said they didn't know exactly when but it's for sure not this week.

Hunterzen
2012-08-09, 08:07 PM
I can't blame SOE for letting people pay money to get instant beta access, but many of these people are the wrong type of people to beta test. Just last night kid posted on PSU complaining about falling through the map even though he paid for beta access. He was on here asking PSU members for help instead of reporting his problems to the developers. I think PS2 technical team will be happy to see the next wave of real vets who understand the true purpose of beta have access.

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 08:08 PM
I can't blame SOE for letting people pay money to get instant beta access, but many of these people are the wrong type of people to beta test. Just last night kid posted on PSU complaining about falling through the map even though he paid for beta access. He was on here asking PSU members for help instead of reporting his problems to the developers. I think PS2 technical team will be happy to see the next wave of real vets who understand the true purpose of beta have access.

exactly my frend, exactly.

*strokes beard

Otleaz
2012-08-09, 08:27 PM
I personally don't care if they sell access to the beta. If they want to pay money to get ahead of me, I welcome them to.

I have issue with SOE blatantly dancing around the definitions of beta and vet to screw over their veteran players.

VET "You said veterans would have first dibs on beta!"

SOE "This isn't beta, it is a tech test"

VET "...fair enough"

VET "That guy isn't a vet, why is he in the beta?"

SOE "No, he is a vet, see? He bought a subscription to the game a week ago."

VET "Fuck you"

picchu
2012-08-09, 09:27 PM
Or people who lost the credentials ...

I had a PS1 account from 03 to 05, but the password and email address for it are long gone. =(

I feel your pain :cry:

mindmines
2012-08-09, 09:46 PM
It's easier to just wait. I mean, even if you pay for the first Planetside, the second is coming out soon. Just be patient. :)

Blackwolf
2012-08-09, 09:52 PM
You people are absolutely bonkers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with McDonalds food, it's freaking food ok? Your stomach acids do more damage to your esophagus when you have heart burn then McDonalds food does to you when you eat it.

moosepoop
2012-08-09, 10:04 PM
I had my cr5 deleted 3 years ago, I feel your pain. It doesn't stop you from spending 20 bucks :) (I'm gonna stay at this until you bastards break and buy the game you know you love)



Awwww, do you need some baby powder for your butthole? It seems raw and without 20 dollars.



today i gave a homelessman 100 dollars. still havent spent a cent on the beta.

Otleaz
2012-08-09, 10:10 PM
Awwww, do you need some baby powder for your butthole? It seems raw and without 20 dollars.

I'm not a veteran, and I don't care enough about getting into beta to spend money.

scroogh
2012-08-09, 10:11 PM
:rofl: Remember NC, this is the stuff you fight for.

FearTheReaper
2012-08-09, 10:32 PM
Why are some saying it's $10 and others are saying it's $20 dollars? It shows up as $19.99 on SOE and $14.99 a month...so is it one free month when you purchase the game at $19.99? I don't understand where people are getting the $10.

Goku
2012-08-09, 10:46 PM
Why are some saying it's $10 and others are saying it's $20 dollars? It shows up as $19.99 on SOE and $14.99 a month...so is it one free month when you purchase the game at $19.99? I don't understand where people are getting the $10.

At Gamefly you can get PS1 for $10.

http://www.gamefly.com/Download-PlanetSide-Aftershock/151155/

Goku
2012-08-10, 12:16 AM
Whining doesn't add to the discussion btw.

Otleaz
2012-08-10, 01:50 AM
Whining doesn't add to the discussion btw.

I hardly consider it whining. I'm not a veteran, but I find it disturbing that the game I am looking forward to is run by a company that is so unprofessional that it uses loopholes to break promises with their loyal fans.

Venator
2012-08-10, 03:49 AM
Seems a bit cheap but whatever. They aren't fooling me into paying for quicker access to a beta for a F2P game by spending money on a game I won't play.

Archonzero
2012-08-10, 03:57 AM
Seems a bit cheap but whatever. They aren't fooling me into paying for quicker access to a beta for a F2P game by spending money on a game I won't play.

^Trolllllllolololol??? Otherwise, who is your daddy and what does he do?

Slide Surveyor
2012-08-10, 04:31 AM
Have you been living under a rock?

Yes.

Mox
2012-08-10, 04:35 AM
I the long term, grabbin some money for early beta access isn't a wise decision of soe. Really early in the process they pissed off a lot of dudes. All the guys with "priority keys". These guys have buyed for the pcg magazin or made some fanart. They also pissed off their long term customers. These vets have spend hunderts of dollars for ps1 and other soe games. All these guys will remember what soe did to them. They will take a more critical standpoint toward ps2 in the future. And a critical standpoint is not a good thing if you wanna sale crap in a f2p game. IMO soe already screwed the game up. I hope they'll get the turn. But soe screwed almost every game in there portfolio.
It is just a new time record.

Timealude
2012-08-10, 04:40 AM
Im looking at it closer and what i think smedly meant was that former vets who resub can get in earlier.

Zeruel
2012-08-10, 04:47 AM
Im looking at it closer and what i think smedly meant was that former vets who resub can get in earlier.

well, that makes no sense as former vets will have the same wave as the new subscriber veterans.

Timealude
2012-08-10, 05:06 AM
well, that makes no sense as former vets will have the same wave as the new subscriber veterans.

ya it goes back to hearing someone say they might not have had enough current subs so they needed to boost the numbers in the next wave. we also dont know if they are going to let us in yet or if they are still on phase 1.

Zeruel
2012-08-10, 05:23 AM
ya it goes back to hearing someone say they might not have had enough current subs so they needed to boost the numbers in the next wave. we also dont know if they are going to let us in yet or if they are still on phase 1.

as far as i know the wave 1 or phase 1 (active subs) is completely invited and done. And according to https://twitter.com/nickynuuts98/status/233785476736245760 next week "some" vets will be invited. (or the chances are "some" that vets are to be invited)

Mox
2012-08-10, 05:26 AM
I bought three PC gamer magazines. I have a twitter key and I am an OLD school PS1 vet. I like that they offer this option, now I can know with absolute certainty that I can get into the beta. SOE has done nothing but but found another way to generate revenue on a 9 year old (still awesome) product.

So it's not like you're paying 20 dollars to get in and that's it. You're paying 20 dollars to have a subscription to Planetside 1 and the ability to play that game during the beta (testing) phase of Planetside 2.

As I've said before, if you want to get into beta go mow a lawn and get 20 bucks. Hell, go mow a big lawn and get some mcdonalds while you're at walmart buying the SOE card. It's just win-win.

It seems that you still like ps1. In that case it might be a win-win situation.
But there are a lot of guys out there who don't like it anymore or even never played it. Nevertheless, they want to play the beta and it was promised by soe since months that they'll be in early if they have a key or vet status. I don't think these guys will say: "Oh yeah! Lets pay another 15$ for a ancient game i don't wanna play and a second game which is still bugged." No, they just will be pissed off and that's not good for ps 2 and soe in the long run.

Kipper
2012-08-10, 05:41 AM
"Oh yeah! Lets pay another 15$ for a ancient game i don't wanna play and a second game which is still bugged."

This, my friend, is where your logic breaks down.

1. You don't have to pay for the ancient game you don't want to play, nobody is forcing you to. You are still allowed to play PS2 when it comes out, or if you're lucky enough to get a pre-release BETA invite.

2. The second game is still bugged BECAUSE ITS NOT FINISHED YET. That's the point of a BETA. Yes, you get to play it, but you're supposed to be helping to find & therefore fix the bugs so that when it actually comes out - its bug free. If you don't like bugs in your game - WAIT TILL IT COMES OUT.

I feel that SOE should be offering free blood pressure and anxiety checks to anyone that's still annoyed they're not playing the beta - just to make sure they're ok. It's really a win-win situation for everyone here:

a) The earlier you get in, the sooner you get to play, but the more bugs you will have to deal with.
b) Those of us who get in later will get to play on a newer build with fewer issues.
c) Those who wait for release will get as near-to-perfect build as can be.
d) Those who CHOOSE to use a loophole to get in sooner and pay for it can do so AT NOBODY ELSE'S EXPENSE. And since it's a beta, you have no right to be pissed off about bugs - you should be dutifully reporting them to the developers so that they can be fixed for b & c.

Why does everyone find this so hard to understand?

Nidetch
2012-08-10, 05:42 AM
I played PS1 when it first came out the account was regestered to an aol email address that i had living at my parents house. i do not have access to that email any more, (is AOL still around?) i bought a pc gamer mag and have been following this game for a year now, if i create a new sub and buy a digital copy of ps1 i hope i can get in earlier to the beta. otherwise soe just scammed me outta 20 buck for game and 1 month sub to game i wont be playing with beta just around the corner anyway. to me that money would be more then worth it for game that is not sub based, i know i will be giving them money at some point this just starts it earlier.
Also does anyone know when the next round of invites might be going out?

Mox
2012-08-10, 05:44 AM
This, my friend, is where your logic breaks down.

1. You don't have to pay for the ancient game you don't want to play, nobody is forcing you to. You are still allowed to play PS2 when it comes out, or if you're lucky enough to get a pre-release BETA invite.

2. The second game is still bugged BECAUSE ITS NOT FINISHED YET. That's the point of a BETA. Yes, you get to play it, but you're supposed to be helping to find & therefore fix the bugs so that when it actually comes out - its bug free. If you don't like bugs in your game - WAIT TILL IT COMES OUT.

I feel that SOE should be offering free blood pressure and anxiety checks to anyone that's still annoyed they're not playing the beta - just to make sure they're ok. It's really a win-win situation for everyone here:

a) The earlier you get in, the sooner you get to play, but the more bugs you will have to deal with.
b) Those of us who get in later will get to play on a newer build with fewer issues.
c) Those who wait for release will get as near-to-perfect build as can be.
d) Those who CHOOSE to use a loophole to get in sooner and pay for it can do so AT NOBODY ELSE'S EXPENSE. And since it's a beta, you have no right to be pissed off about bugs - you should be dutifully reporting them to the developers so that they can be fixed for b & c.

Why does everyone find this so hard to understand?

I think you haven't understand a word of what i was saying.

Scotsh
2012-08-10, 05:50 AM
as far as i know the wave 1 or phase 1 (active subs) is completely invited and done. And according to https://twitter.com/nickynuuts98/status/233785476736245760 next week "some" vets will be invited. (or the chances are "some" that vets are to be invited)

I am guessing he mean some vets and not some chance.
Anyway, i now think they werent ready for beta yet, at least the beta they planned and promised. They had to do start it because the built up a lot of public pressure.

From what we can see so far this first beta phase is not very different from tech test. I would be surprised if they even doubled the amount of players from tech test (which was according to a dev 4000-5000 ppl).
But they bought themselves some time, the real start of beta will be the real masses hit the servers, which will be after all vets are invited and the first keyholders get in.

Monkey
2012-08-10, 06:32 AM
I just used a beta key (priority access) today, as I didn't open my PC Gamer Magazine when it came in the post. Will I be eligible for this wave?

Scotsh
2012-08-10, 06:37 AM
Nope. Vets first.

Mox
2012-08-10, 06:44 AM
I just used a beta key (priority access) today, as I didn't open my PC Gamer Magazine when it came in the post. Will I be eligible for this wave?

Seems like you can buy PS1 to be in the next wave....

Monkey
2012-08-10, 06:52 AM
Ah nevermind, thanks though.

Noon
2012-08-10, 07:27 AM
Hrmm...

Thinks back to all the "finished" games that he payed $50+ dollars for (not including subscriptions), that were almost unplayable do to bugs

I've been burned pretty bad before, so I doubt this will hurt much. :groovy:

Goku
2012-08-10, 05:57 PM
Guys please take a step back and take a breather. I just cleaned out the thread. I'd rather not close this.

FearTheReaper
2012-08-10, 06:34 PM
So I just got the game...now I have to pay $14.99 to play for a month? So I activated the game but don't have a membership, will I get into the next wave?

p0intman
2012-08-10, 06:34 PM
HEY LOOK, SMEDLEY BEING SMEDLEY.

Can I say "I told you so" now? He's a colossal douchebag.

Firearms
2012-08-10, 07:29 PM
HEY LOOK, SMEDLEY BEING SMEDLEY.

Can I say "I told you so" now? He's a colossal douchebag.

At least you can blame Nvidia for crashing your boys club tho \o/

DaMann
2012-08-10, 07:46 PM
Im going to pay for it. If its $10 (like you guys have stated) then I dont mind spending that much. My question is that how do I give them the money to sub. Can someone please help?

Maniox
2012-08-10, 07:51 PM
Im going to pay for it. If its $10 (like you guys have stated) then I dont mind spending that much. My question is that how do I give them the money to sub. Can someone please help?

Where can you actually find a copy of the game for 10 $?

Phaaze
2012-08-10, 08:52 PM
GameFly apparently

RoninOni
2012-08-10, 09:03 PM
GameFly apparently

I'd be wary of that...

It says "Planetside: Aftershock" (the last expansion)

and I'm not 100% sure if it comes with 30days game time...

you need an active subscription.

SO, if the last expac lets you play standalone AND it comes with 30days free play time, then yes...

Not to mention, IMO, the most important factor....

I want to support SOE.... not Gamefly :huh:

Ertwin
2012-08-10, 09:33 PM
I decided to sub because I actually want to try out planetside. If I happen to get earlier beta access, I'll bug hunt with the best of them.

RoninOni
2012-08-10, 10:32 PM
^lol me too :brow:

it's awesome though!

I can feel it's age obviously, but just knowing how old it is and still how good it is :)

I just sat on the sideline watching tank lines battle it out... I was really wishing I had a RL but I managed to get a couple people *and die more than a few times* :P

KnifeGun
2012-08-10, 10:56 PM
Are you still able to buy-in or has the next wave hit? I'm debating right now. I've never played PS1 so that might hold some good entertainment.

Ertwin
2012-08-10, 11:41 PM
It was indeed fun, it'll be more fun once I figure out how to cert =p Had a nice 3-way going.

Suicidex
2012-08-11, 03:11 AM
I know there's a lot of discussion about this but I want about as solid of an answer as possible about the second wave of beta. Basically, I can't wait to play beta and currently I am an unsubbed vet.

Wave #2 is for August 20th, correct?

People that buy in a subscription are guaranteed access.

Also, are unsubbed vets going to get access on the 20th?
Or is it not going to be every vet? Maybe a percentage?

Thanks guys,
Suic1d3

Slide Surveyor
2012-08-11, 03:15 AM
Pretty sure next wave will be unsubbed vets.

RoninOni
2012-08-11, 03:21 AM
Pretty sure next wave will be unsubbed vets.

You missed a pretty explosive thread then....

Down just a few posts about being able to buy your way in...

That said, there shouldn't be so many to seriously affect the draw of unsubbed vets...

But then again, everything here is ALL speculation off unofficial tweets from SOE staff in reply to questions

Joomba
2012-08-11, 03:23 AM
Next wave is *general* vets. This includes unsubbed vets and "vets" who subbed after the cutoff of 8am this past Monday.

Slide Surveyor
2012-08-11, 03:26 AM
You missed a pretty explosive thread then....

Down just a few posts about being able to buy your way in...

That said, there shouldn't be so many to seriously affect the draw of unsubbed vets...

But then again, everything here is ALL speculation off unofficial tweets from SOE staff in reply to questionsI can't imagine any large number of people paying to get in.

RoninOni
2012-08-11, 03:29 AM
I can't imagine any large number of people paying to get in.

Precisely my point.

ESPECIALLY since, as I've been wont to point out, they aren't particularly advertising it. They aren't hiding it or denying it, and straight out answered with an affirmative, but there's no AD for it anywhere

It's impact will be minimal at best

Meecrob
2012-08-11, 04:52 AM
It's not clear to me.... will subbing now make me more likely to be in wave 2? I hear people say unsubbed vets will go in (people like john smedly), but im not sure what to believe anymore with the whole Nvidia fiasco going on. And before people start yelling at me that i shouldn't feel entitled, im not mad just really dissappointed. It's not about selling access or even about giving access away to a lucky few. It's about broken promises.... Now that that's out i've said what i wanted to say.

Salad Snake
2012-08-11, 09:13 AM
:rofl: Remember NC, this is the stuff you fight for.

That IS true, never thought about that.





Anyway, I can confirm that the gamefly thing does NOT come with a free month. Also, the gamefly client wouldn't even install on my PC, fortunately I just went to SOE's site and entered the game key on the receipt.

niopoin
2012-08-11, 11:15 AM
Anyway, I can confirm that the gamefly thing does NOT come with a free month. Also, the gamefly client wouldn't even install on my PC, fortunately I just went to SOE's site and entered the game key on the receipt.

So what are we SUPPOSE to buy?
30 month pass?

Ivam Akorahil
2012-08-11, 11:24 AM
buy it from soe, 30 day game plan for planetside, go to your account, hoever mouse over "shop" i think tis the 4th from above : CREATE A GAMEPLAN

select planetside, pay and subscribe for 1 month
done

Joomba
2012-08-11, 11:28 AM
Smedly said that you can sub now and be considered a "veteran" for the purposes of getting in the next beta wave. Nothing to be confused about.

Package
2012-08-11, 05:29 PM
well i am a 03 vet with 2 accounts 1 that was given a ton of free time but not beta access and 1 account that is a paying sub and neither got an invite. so I dont know that it matters...

Snipergirl
2012-08-11, 05:47 PM
after all vets get in. you will see! Buy a Beta key from SOE website to get a beta access!!! Lmfao! they will do it. they will.

Comet
2012-08-11, 07:23 PM
I bath in your tears.

Salad Snake
2012-08-11, 07:35 PM
So what are we SUPPOSE to buy?
30 month pass?

Update: That free 30 day thing isn't still going on is it? If not then I did get a month as soon as I agreed to a sub plan on SOE site. Probably just cancel the sub before then.

TheBladeRoden
2012-08-13, 07:55 PM
i do not have access to that email any more, (is AOL still around?)

Yeah I'm still using my aol address :D

Justaman
2012-08-13, 09:03 PM
FFS! How many times do I need to iterate this point...

THEY AREN'T TRYING TO SELL THE BETA FOR A QUICK BUCK. SOMEONE ASKED IF REGISTERING NOW WOULD SET THEM IN THAT PRIORITY GROUP AND THE DEV RESPONDED HONESTLY.

They created a priority queue system for bringing in Beta players, it so happens that the top level priority is PS1 ACTIVE sub, and that you can get one RIGHT NOW.

It's circumstantial, not some fund raising scheme.... otherwise instead of blasting twitter to hand out free keys they'd be posting to the public how to "buy" beta access.... they didn't they just answered an honest question.

My bloody god peoples...... :doh:

This ^

The priority system is automated, we were told before the first beta even started that it goes:

active sub -> anytime sub(vets)->priority keys > everything else

They don't sit at a computer picking out names one at a time. They just follow the order, it can't get any more black and white as that.

The only reason they say "before the next round of emails go out", is not because they are re-including active subs, its because if you subscribe just AFTER emails go out, you wont get in, even tho they say actives get in.

You would have to wait for the wave after it.


They've changed nothing, its simply everyone's perception on how they wanted it to work that doesn't add up (wanting only active subs from before first beta to have priority).


Also, remember, even if your a vet, you have to sign your account up on the PS2 website to get an invite. This prevents them from sending invites to people who aren't expecting/lost accounts. So if you haven't gotten an invite, that is something you might want to make sure you did.

BlackOriOn
2012-08-13, 09:25 PM
I don't know about you folks. I played PS1 back in the old days and loved it. A couple of months ago when I heard about PS2 coming out I signed back up for PS1. I have been having a great time. It brings back memories of the old days. I'm getting Station Cash and I can get my Planetside fix when I want it. Even if you get in the beta the servers won't be up all the time. Pony up the cash for a couple of months, have a great time and enjoy the ride.

Broadside
2012-08-13, 11:47 PM
yea, but the principle of the matter is, US vets, aren't IN before these kids.

What makes you think they are children?

Hunterzen
2012-08-14, 12:49 AM
It was indeed fun, it'll be more fun once I figure out how to cert =p Had a nice 3-way going.

Click esc then click Go to Sanctuary go inside the largest building you see look to your left the moment you walk in you will see the certification console.

wraithverge
2012-08-14, 06:10 AM
Don't buy a ps1 sub for ps2 beta access, buy a ps1 sub, so you can play ps1 until beta comes out, and you might get a ps2 beta access earlier. I was on the fence of buying a ps1 sub again for months, finally decided to just do it and I don't regret it at all. ps1 is still as fun as you remember.

Sansukan
2012-08-14, 07:28 AM
Does anyone know if it's still possible to subscribe to PS1 today and still be considered a veteran and get invited into the next PS2 invite wave? or has that chance already expired?

sagolsun
2012-08-14, 08:58 AM
SOE is a business and the game being free to play they're exploiting every opportunity out there.

Still, handing out beta for people who subscribe to PS1 is fair. Compare and contrast with EA telling us gamers the only way to get into BF4 beta is to buy Medal of Honor.

So yeah, my argument boils down to "At least they're not EA"

Vertoxis
2012-08-14, 09:49 AM
Does anyone know if it's still possible to subscribe to PS1 today and still be considered a veteran and get invited into the next PS2 invite wave? or has that chance already expired?

(according to J_Smedley's twitter) Apparently as long as you are subscribed by monday the 20th which is the monday coming up you will be in the "Inactive vet" wave..... so basically it seems that with every wave coming... if you activate your planetside 1 account.. you get in on the next wave "WHENEVER THAT IS" he only stated that monday the 20th is the cutoff... NOT THE NEXT WAVE... but he has been hinting at another wave soon after the 20th.... and well.. him saying the 20th is the cutoff was for the next wave is a big hint to it coming next week

Everyone step back for a second and breathe.... lol

Anyway... i resub'd 2 days ago and my friend wanted to try the 1st one before playing the 2nd so.... he picked it up too... now that we are hearing this we are pretty pumped to help them fix this monster of a game up.... ive always loved real beta tests and fondly remember games where i would attempt to get stuck or break the game and see what needs fixing

ALSO IM SO GLAD THEY FOUND THAT NVIDIA BUG.. squash that thing real quick please lol:mad::groovy:

atheistunicycle
2012-08-14, 11:19 AM
You can eat out twice for $10??????

dafuq you live? Somalia?

1 slice of pizza + 2 garlic knots + soda for $5.

LampShade
2012-08-14, 12:03 PM
Aw no not again... Another spam of kids will buy themselves beta.

I have no problem with that. They'll do well paying to eating my bullets.

1 slice of pizza + 2 garlic knots + soda for $5.

Inflation obviously hasn't hit you yet!

XPquant
2012-08-14, 12:35 PM
Classic SOE going on here.

Boone
2012-08-14, 12:57 PM
Classic SOE going on here.

They could just not have a Beta.

Why do people feel they deserve early access/betas, etc to games all the time anymore, or feel since they registered before someone they should get in? I'm talking just in general at this point.

It's a little pathetic. I don't play most betas only because I don't want to ruin the experience, and most of you will be playing the beta for a few months at least I'm sure.

What's the rush? Not sure why everyone is so eager seeing as the game still needs quite a bit of optimzation/bugs/glitches to fix. Optimzation being the biggest one because if the game doesn't run well than the game is going to fail.

sagolsun
2012-08-14, 01:27 PM
They could just not have a Beta.

Why do people feel they deserve early access/betas, etc to games all the time anymore, or feel since they registered before someone they should get in? I'm talking just in general at this point.

Because the industry has shaped a false and misleading idea of what betatesting is. They've used it as a sort of status symbol for geeks, a priviledge granted exclusively to the worthy.

In reality betatesting isn't all that glamorous. Betatesting is done by the Q&A department - people who wanted to get into the core development team but don't have the skills to. They're relegated to bug-hunting, screwing around with the program. The ones who show an aptitude in logic skills and thinking up of creative ways to break the code eventually get handed a debugger, bugtracker write permissions and get to write their own patches, on their own branch. The betatesters who give good usability feedback may end up in a design seat. It's one of the more grimy aspects of software development.

The industry has created a different image - in BF3's case they essentially made it a time-limited demo, not a beta. And in BF4's case - a demo and marketing tool.

It's a lie and people are getting deceived. The beta isn't there for you, it's for the devs. Stop being an arrogant self-centered asshole.

What's the rush? Not sure why everyone is so eager seeing as the game still needs quite a bit of optimzation/bugs/glitches to fix. Optimzation being the biggest one because if the game doesn't run well than the game is going to fail.

There's a rush because people like this game. People are emotional about it and want to play it as soon as possible. I blame the industry for making "beta" the new "demo".

Another thing is that the earlier you come in, the more feedback you can give.

rugerscout
2012-08-15, 06:22 PM
Hey, how about people who have the monthly game pass for all of the SOE games? I have PS1 under my account but I never bought the monthly subscription for PS1 separately. Can I still get the beta key in the next wave?

RoninOni
2012-08-15, 06:37 PM
1 slice of pizza + 2 garlic knots + soda for $5.

1 slice is eating out?

You don't eat much O.o

I'll eat half a large Pie by myself... and that's if I'm only a lil hungry

Hey, how about people who have the monthly game pass for all of the SOE games? I have PS1 under my account but I never bought the monthly subscription for PS1 separately. Can I still get the beta key in the next wave?

Download PS1.
Launch PS1
Login

If it lets you play, then you should be

Dominator
2012-08-15, 06:44 PM
Isn't there like a free month or something for Ps1 when you first start playing, would that count as an invite for this stage?

rugerscout
2012-08-15, 06:49 PM
Download PS1.
Launch PS1
Login


Downloaded.
Launched.
Logged in and played.

:)

VoodooJanus
2012-08-15, 06:50 PM
Just one thing:

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

JoCool
2012-08-15, 07:01 PM
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

that's just awesome :-D

Bags
2012-08-15, 07:02 PM
1 slice of pizza + 2 garlic knots + soda for $5.

Yeah I can get a 7" pizza, 2 breadsticks and a drink for $6 around here. :groovy:

RoninOni
2012-08-15, 08:04 PM
Yeah I can get a 7" pizza, 2 breadsticks and a drink for $6 around here. :groovy:

Lil ceasers sells larges for $5... but I dunno if I'd really call that pizza.

I never buy a pizza for less than $18-20 for a lrg.

Eating out is also at least a $15 expense, more often more but only cause I don't do it often, so have upgraded my quality when I do :P

Hell, EATING IN costs me $10 for dinner, easy.

anyways... moral of the story... $20 ain't shit.

julfo
2012-08-16, 03:06 PM
*snip*


So much truth here, an excellent post.


In fact, they ought to sticky it so everyone can see it.

Dkamanus
2012-08-16, 08:12 PM
I'd love to (+ play PS1 a little), but Station won't let me buy it. I'm from Brazil, btw...

Infektion
2012-08-16, 09:42 PM
There's a place called Nino's around the corner of my office, has a student special, 2 large cheese slices and a soda can for 5 bucks. Haven't been there in a while, but he treats me nice. Sometimes free slices and shit.

Phaaze
2012-08-16, 10:41 PM
If you live in NYC you can get 2 slices and a soda for 2.75 at 2 Bros. Pizza:D

Salad Snake
2012-08-16, 11:00 PM
All the food here in Hawaii is expensive, especially for a poor college student such as myself. -_-

zomg
2012-08-17, 04:30 AM
Pizza tends to be bout 9 USD here with a soda, but unless you are Fatty McFattyPants, you can basically eat dinner two days from them, they are that big. I did three days of lunch once as well when I wasn't very hungry :D

Rat
2012-08-17, 08:57 AM
ok...Pizza demographic question...lived in NE Pennsylvania most of my life...when I wanted a pizza with only cheese and sauce I would order a "plain" pizza. I have recently moved to Iowa(quad cities area). when I ask for a plain pizza I am looked at like I am a 3 eyed retard. around here you need to ask for a "cheese" pizza.
what else is a plain pizza called around the world?

Infektion
2012-08-17, 09:03 AM
ok...Pizza demographic question...lived in NE Pennsylvania most of my life...when I wanted a pizza with only cheese and sauce I would order a "plain" pizza. I have recently moved to Iowa(quad cities area). when I ask for a plain pizza I am looked at like I am a 3 eyed retard. around here you need to ask for a "cheese" pizza.
what else is a plain pizza called around the world?

Don't fret over Iowa... It's Iowa...

VaderShake
2012-08-17, 09:03 AM
Well obvoiously it's time for someone to create a "Pizza Flow Chart" internet meme to set everyone straight with universally accepted language and pizza progression.


Ps.

Smed, for the love of all that is holy let the rest of us in the beta,....it's time...or the next thing your know we will be discussing the finer points of donuts...glazed or powdered? and where do the bastard cousins Bagels come into play?please discuss...

zomg
2012-08-17, 09:35 AM
ok...Pizza demographic question...lived in NE Pennsylvania most of my life...when I wanted a pizza with only cheese and sauce I would order a "plain" pizza. I have recently moved to Iowa(quad cities area). when I ask for a plain pizza I am looked at like I am a 3 eyed retard. around here you need to ask for a "cheese" pizza.
what else is a plain pizza called around the world?

I don't think anyone ever has a "plain" pizza here.

By default, a pizza from a pizzeria in Finland comes with cheese and tomato sauce or such (as in you don't need to specifically ask for these). Then you generally have two or three other ingredients (for example ham, tuna, salami). I have never actually seen anyone order a pizza without any ingredients.

Additionally, a more recent trend of stuff to have in your pizza is kebab meat slices along with kebab sauce. From what I hear, some people find this sort of pizza variation a bit odd :)

revetr
2012-08-17, 11:13 AM
Is it too late to buy into beta?

Mansen
2012-08-17, 11:14 AM
There's still time.:)

RoninOni
2012-08-17, 12:56 PM
Tuna pizza? :huh:

ick

Xeller
2012-08-17, 04:06 PM
Saw this thread was active, was wondering how people could possibly still be discussing this...

...was very pleasantly surprised to find the conversation turned more worth while.

Pizza, food of the gods.

Seriously though, I was in Bologna, Italy, at the beginning of summer for a week. Pizza in the States just doesn't taste the same and has forever been ruined. Damn Italians and their delicious cuisine :p

Rat
2012-08-17, 04:47 PM
I had pizza in lamadalena Italy(jacked spelling im sure) and I gotta argree that Italian pizza is pretty odd...the crust was paper thin and the sauce/cheese was pretty watery, it was tasty tho, even with slices of tomatoe and other veggies on it.

julfo
2012-08-17, 05:22 PM
Nothing beats a true thin italian pizza. The fat, undercooked, unhealthy alternatives in the UK are very disappointing.

zomg
2012-08-17, 05:52 PM
Since someone is probably going to come here to look for this info:

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/statuses/236580004698411009

"to be very, very, very, extra clear - a "Vet" is someone who EVER subscribed to Planetside 1. doesn't matter how long ago or how briefly."

Salad Snake
2012-08-17, 08:17 PM
Well obvoiously it's time for someone to create a "Pizza Flow Chart" internet meme to set everyone straight with universally accepted language and pizza progression.


Ps.

Smed, for the love of all that is holy let the rest of us in the beta,....it's time...or the next thing your know we will be discussing the finer points of donuts...glazed or powdered? and where do the bastard cousins Bagels come into play?please discuss...


Fruit-filled glazed donuts are obviously the superior variety of dough-based pastries.

Phaaze
2012-08-17, 09:11 PM
O man, any of you try that new Oreo donut at Dunkins?

RoninOni
2012-08-17, 09:14 PM
O man, any of you try that new Oreo donut at Dunkins?

:huh:

eck

Timealude
2012-08-18, 01:50 PM
so has anyone gotten there email yet?

Also I love how this thread turned into food conversation lol....

julfo
2012-08-18, 03:38 PM
so has anyone gotten there email yet?

Also I love how this thread turned into food conversation lol....

Doubt we will until.. well, the 20th. Would be nice to preload it though :P

Rathination
2012-08-19, 02:15 AM
Can I buy myself into the beta if my account already has a twitter key activated on it?

Chrispin
2012-08-19, 02:51 AM
Yes. Yes I have. Don't judge me.

You sound like the kind of person that eats Doritos tacos from Taco Bell. Tsk tsk.

Sorry, wasn't supposed to judge was I?





but for real i tried one

RoninOni
2012-08-19, 05:08 AM
Can I buy myself into the beta if my account already has a twitter key activated on it?

I did...

Roadhouseman
2012-08-19, 07:40 AM
ok, perhaps we are tomorrow in beta, but Monday has no server open , aarrgghh !! :(

Bazilx
2012-08-19, 07:53 AM
Yeeaaaahhh, went in last week and flashed my green cash in Sony's face and they got all hot and flustered and insisted I join the beta, I slipped them $9 for a subscription and left satisfied.

Beta here I come.

atheistunicycle
2012-08-19, 09:52 AM
ok, perhaps we are tomorrow in beta, but Monday has no server open , aarrgghh !! :(

At least we can get the download started.

Apathy
2012-08-19, 09:53 AM
My apologies if this has already been covered, are Vets still getting in tomorrow / 20th?

I hope so, I've the remaining days off work for this and I'm itching to give it a go again after so many years.

Ruffdog
2012-08-19, 10:20 AM
My apologies if this has already been covered, are Vets still getting in tomorrow / 20th?

I hope so, I've the remaining days off work for this and I'm itching to give it a go again after so many years.

That's the plan.
Did you used to play on Werner? Your name Sprogster seems familiar..

Roadhouseman
2012-08-19, 10:21 AM
At least we can get the download started.

:) yes, I hope that works out tomorrow. I'm happy when we can finally start the download.

Got nothing to do tomorrow, have a lot of freetime ... so why is the server down !!! hmmpf :cry:

the endless wait

Apathy
2012-08-19, 10:32 AM
That's the plan.
Did you used to play on Werner? Your name Sprogster seems familiar..

Thanks for that.

I did indeed play/make an arse of myself on Werner and dabbled a little on Emerald under a few other names. :)

Ziggypop
2012-08-19, 12:09 PM
Im not totally sure of this, but does playing Planetside 1 via a "SOE ALL ACCESS GAME PASS" count towards achieving veteran status? I was unaware of the "game pass plans" page when I made my purchase, so in addition to paying an extra 5 dollars to get access to the same game, I worry that that action may not even qualify me for the upcoming beta. Can someone calm my fears or tell me to throw more money at SOE please?

Rathination
2012-08-19, 12:13 PM
I did...

So does your account say that you're a vet? Can you download it?

julfo
2012-08-19, 12:54 PM
So does your account say that you're a vet? Can you download it?


The next wave I.e vets hasn't started yet, so unless he was in before now i doubt he can download it.

Rathination
2012-08-19, 01:21 PM
The next wave I.e vets hasn't started yet, so unless he was in before now i doubt he can download it.

Thanks for replying :D!

RoninOni
2012-08-19, 03:16 PM
So does your account say that you're a vet? Can you download it?

I'm a vet.... I can't D/L it yet tho...

https://account.station.sony.com/authenticated/cam/subscriptionsInfo.action

Anyone who wants to know if you're a "Vet" check this page.

Under Planetside 2 It should say "Active" and then on the next line "No Membership"

julfo
2012-08-19, 03:18 PM
Thanks for replying :D!

No problem man :) Hope you get in soon (tomorrow even)!

zomg
2012-08-19, 03:29 PM
I'm a vet.... I can't D/L it yet tho...

https://account.station.sony.com/authenticated/cam/subscriptionsInfo.action

Anyone who wants to know if you're a "Vet" check this page.

Under Planetside 2 It should say "Active" and then on the next line "No Membership"

It says active for everyone with a beta key. I don't think there's much correlation with anything

BudBrain
2012-08-19, 03:39 PM
Anyone have any idea what time we'll be allowed in?

Rivenshield
2012-08-19, 03:40 PM
It says active for everyone with a beta key. I don't think there's much correlation with anything

Mine says INactive.

All my Station account information is up to date.... I got my free month before... Should I be nervous?

Comet
2012-08-19, 03:42 PM
You had to actually subscribe, not just get t free month I think.

BudBrain
2012-08-19, 03:45 PM
Not necessarily; mine said Planetside 2 "Inactive" before I subscribed to PS1 last week and it still says "Inactive" now.

Kordoyn
2012-08-19, 03:46 PM
I have a vet account and mine also says inactive, even though I signed up a while ago, and have the signup confirmation.

Roadhouseman
2012-08-19, 03:55 PM
okay ... mine says active :) ... but i'll first believe it , when i can download it ... or get the e-mail ... then its okay

zomg
2012-08-19, 04:11 PM
Mine says INactive.

All my Station account information is up to date.... I got my free month before... Should I be nervous?

Yes, as I said, only for those with a beta key (eg. from Twitter, PCG, whatever). Vets will get invited as long as they are signed up for beta, they don't need to input a key

This has been discussed in numerous threads however.

BudBrain
2012-08-19, 05:15 PM
Keys being given away hourly @ https://www.facebook.com/Planetside2Europe

PurpleOtter
2012-08-19, 06:39 PM
I have to go into the office tomorrow instead of working from home. The IT manager will insist I help him with SWTOR dailies before I can log into the beta, if I get an invite :cry:

Toppopia
2012-08-19, 06:42 PM
Giving away beta keys on faccebook and twitter. I'm sad now :( Lower chance of me getting in sooner :cry:

IMMentat
2012-08-19, 07:04 PM
Still annoyed about SOE's use of the term "veteran" when they really mean "people willing to give us money right now".

As a person that sunk months and/or years of my life into Planetside1 I wish they would cut the crap and just call it "pay to access beta waves" rather than twist the knife with every mention of a "veteran wave".

I really hope some of these players are actual veterans (experience and feedback from those who have already seen an MMO FPS in action is invaluable), but in the end they are all people willing to buy their way into a beta.

Its the misinformation I object to, rather than the process.

Harasus
2012-08-19, 08:55 PM
Still annoyed about SOE's use of the term "veteran" when they really mean "people willing to give us money right now".

As a person that sunk months and/or years of my life into Planetside1 I wish they would cut the crap and just call it "pay to access beta waves" rather than twist the knife with every mention of a "veteran wave".

I really hope some of these players are actual veterans (experience and feedback from those who have already seen an MMO FPS in action is invaluable), but in the end they are all people willing to buy their way into a beta.

Its the misinformation I object to, rather than the process.

All the veterans are getting in, and then some extra.

Rathination
2012-08-19, 09:29 PM
Can we still get in if we subscribe now?