Wipe after Closed Beta?

[Whitetragedy]

Strangely, I never found anything that said anything about whether the characters made in closed beta will be wiped in the official launch. I might just be that I don't have access to beta forums, but does anyone know what will happen?

[QuantumMechanic]

I think you can count on a character wipe before launch, assuming they aren't allowing us to buy items from the in-game store with real station cash first.

I would expect to see character wipes fairly often, and at nearly all stages of beta.

Once they start taking our money though, then expect no more wipes. That would make peeps quite angry.

[Crator]

I think there's was more info about this in the PS2 beta thread but I can't find it.

[Roidster]

wipes will happen through out the beta test,and once the game launches,you have to start from step one again

[AThreatToYou]

I'm expecting characters to be wiped at every patch until release. Post-release I'm expecting them to be reset periodically but not wiped.

[Hamma]

There will definitely be wipes during and at the end of Beta.

[Whitetragedy]

Well, I guess I can try out all the certification without worry.

[RoninOni]

I think you can count on a character wipe before launch, assuming they aren't allowing us to buy items from the in-game store with real station cash first.

I would expect to see character wipes fairly often, and at nearly all stages of beta.

Once they start taking our money though, then expect no more wipes. That would make peeps quite angry.

Not if they get a full station cash refund...

They might even like getting funds back to redistribute.

Your money won't 'disappear'

In fact, they'll be counting on some people using the store when they plug it all in so it can be... you know... tested.

[medward]

It's pretty much standard policy to do a game wipe after different phases of beta testing.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

There will definitely be wipes during and at the end of Beta.

Yup.

[Comet]

AThreatToYou, why would you want a character reset after launch? That makes no sense.

[Mansen]

If they allow for station cash purchases it's a no brainer that they'll re-add the "lost" money after either every wipe or at the end of the closed beta. Lots of other MMOs are using this exact method to encourage early spending (i.e. profit) and get free testing of the system as a bonus.

[AThreatToYou]

AThreatToYou, why would you want a character reset after launch? That makes no sense.

"Reset". Certification points and station cash spent to be refunded and available for re-use. This allows me to change my mind in case I made some horrible mistakes.

[RoninOni]

If they allow for station cash purchases it's a no brainer that they'll re-add the "lost" money after either every wipe or at the end of the closed beta. Lots of other MMOs are using this exact method to encourage early spending (i.e. profit) and get free testing of the system as a bonus.

They don't get more profit though... as when the game then launches that player will have a sudden influx of cash to hold him off for a while.

It's more for testing that for early profit.... they need to make sure that ish is tight for launch... that's the LAST place they want there to be problems :lol:

[drennam]

It's pretty much standard policy to do a game wipe after different phases of beta testing.


unless a game blends beta as a release to pay for development, which we have seen before, but otherwise;
yes!

[EVILPIG]

There will definitely be wipes during and at the end of Beta.

I wouldn't say "at the end" is necessarily true. Throughout, yes, but lots of Betas allow those in the final phase to keep what they have as a token for having played Beta. It's possible that those in the final phase may not be wiped.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

Depends if there's a soft launch, I guess. The it would basically be the end of final open beta being the only thing not wiped.

Only. (IMO).

[james]

Closed beta going into open there will be a wipe.

Open beta to release, sometimes its really depends

[PhoenixDog]

It's also in the NDA that wipes can and will happen at any time.

[RoninOni]

unless a game blends beta as a release to pay for development, which we have seen before, but otherwise;
yes!

I have seen that... yes...

I've also seen it where they stat wipe and refund all spent cash allowing people to completely reevaluate all their purchases and buy new stuff.

Not sure which they'll do... but if they make any overhauls, they'll have to reset (and refund if stores been opened... doubt we'll see any major overhauls but they still may stat reset just so new players aren't so disadvantaged.... or more likely maybe, they'll leave the original servers up but funnel most new traffic into new worlds.)

It's also in the NDA that wipes can and will happen at any time.

Typical NDA clauses allows for all kinds of things actually, including availability limited to whenever dafuq they feel like it, sudden cancellations of up time, no guarantees of anything backend being up (and in fact expect things to occasionally be down at best), etc etc.

It's known to have problems, that's why it's not final release :D

And yah, they can wipe or do w/e they want with stats at will as well.

[selmu]

Strangely, I never found anything that said anything about whether the characters made in closed beta will be wiped in the official launch. I might just be that I don't have access to beta forums, but does anyone know what will happen?

IN the whole game historym you know a game without a wipe after closed betas?

NO becouse ALL Games wipe after closed betas.

[SpcFarlen]

IN the whole game historym you know a game without a wipe after closed betas?

NO becouse ALL Games wipe after closed betas.

Tribes Ascend. No wipe.

And with how the cert trees are, needing command/squadlead rank for certain abilities in game, it doesnt seem like a bad idea either. Get some commanders in early, get some squad leaders in early.

[Zeruel]

Path of Exile for example wipes after closed beta but not after open beta. that means there are a lot of possibilities that may happen *g*

[Rivenshield]

Wipes are a given, both during and after beta.

Only thing I want to know is: Are vets going to be able to reserve their old names? I'd even pay a modest amount for that.

[Timealude]

Tribes Ascend. No wipe.

And with how the cert trees are, needing command/squadlead rank for certain abilities in game, it doesnt seem like a bad idea either. Get some commanders in early, get some squad leaders in early.

Wasnt the Tribes Ascend Open beta not closed?

[Electrofreak]

There was a twitter response at one point where they answered someone's question about wiping during the Beta and the answer was that yes, they would be doing wipes at a few points through the Beta.

[RoninOni]

^Which means experiment :) (Kinda the point of beta anyways right?)

Once they go to open beta... I'd start trying to invest smartly...

but I'd count on at least 1 going closed to open, and likely 1-3 before.

[Ghoest9]

This is just common sense. Of course they will wipe it. Its a true beta, things constantly change in a true beta.

[Canadian Vanu]

Wasnt the Tribes Ascend Open beta not closed?

You kept every thing from closed.


Mainly because you can purchase currency during closed.

I expect the same from smite.

At 1 point during open beta they reset every ones xp ,tokens and gold so you can redistribute xp because of price changes and the change to tokens to xp. Used all of mine to max infil and soldier.

[IHateMMOs]

Yes! I love it when they wipe the characters, because then I can just go insane with everything without worrying about the consequences. The closed beta should have unlimited certs so that people can try out everything and then later on in he beta stage it can be legit progression.

[Nordan]

I've never ever played a beta where the characters are saved. It's a rule of thumb, I don't think it has to be stated.

[RoninOni]

Yes! I love it when they wipe the characters, because then I can just go insane with everything without worrying about the consequences. The closed beta should have unlimited certs so that people can try out everything and then later on in he beta stage it can be legit progression.

Leveling speed off natural world interaction is one of the things they need to balance.... so expect to need to earn dem certs... over and over again :D

As noted, any cash spent in the store during beta will get refunded if wiped, allowing you to respend your cash.

[IHateMMOs]

Leveling speed off natural world interaction is one of the things they need to balance.... so expect to need to earn dem certs... over and over again :D

As noted, any cash spent in the store during beta will get refunded if wiped, allowing you to respend your cash.

Don't they give you free station cash to spend in the closed beta like in Blacklight: Retribution.

[RoninOni]

Don't they give you free station cash to spend in the closed beta like in Blacklight: Retribution.

Wouldn't count on it....

They might give out a few bucks.

They might have a phase before the store opens where they give people free money to spend on the store items, then next wipe you won't get a refund of course since you spent no real cash and then they'll turn the store on for real.

[Zenben]

Before they open up the store to real Station Cash purchases, I'm guessing they'll make things free in order for them to be tested. Once they open up real SC purchases, which could easily be before beta is over, I would expect the purchases to be tied to the account, not the character. This way when they do the final character wipe before launch, wiping certs and BR's (I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't delete the characters so people in beta could keep their name) the purchases made during beta will still be available to that account post-launch.

[RoninOni]

Before they open up the store to real Station Cash purchases, I'm guessing they'll make things free in order for them to be tested. Once they open up real SC purchases, which could easily be before beta is over, I would expect the purchases to be tied to the account, not the character. This way when they do the final character wipe before launch, wiping certs and BR's (I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't delete the characters so people in beta could keep their name) the purchases made during beta will still be available to that account post-launch.

Lots of items will be booster consumables tho which would have been used on wiped resources/xp

They'll just clear all your items and refund you for any SC actually spent.