Why do I suck?! [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

Electrofreak

2012-09-01, 08:00 PM

Alright, so I'm a PS1 vet. I played PS1 for years, and I averaged 2-3 K/D. Of course, sometimes I'd have my crap days, but usually I played reasonably well.

I've also played a number of FPS over the years, and while I've never been awesome at point-blank twitch combat, I'm a reasonable sniper and I have a pretty decent affinity for arcing shots over range.

What I'm trying to figure out is, what has happened to me? I play PS2 and, frankly, I'm pretty bad. I think I'm like a .57 K/D right now.

I'd like to blame it on my frame rates; my system is pretty poor at the moment and I lag pretty badly frequently. But even when my frames are good, it seems like a complete toss-up when I walk into any 1v1 on whether I'll survive. When I run into an enemy in a small room, either I waste his face or spend half the time shooting the wall instead of him.

Anyone else feel this way? Maybe it's the lower TTK, but I've played counterstrike, Unreal, Quake, BF2 and BF2142 to name a few, so it shouldn't be a huge surprise. I've only recently managed to rid myself of my habit of taking body shots in PS2, because in PS1, without headshots, aiming for center of mass is the best way to land hits. Old habits die hard I guess.

All I can do at this point is keep playing... I've seen my K/D come up a bit (it used to be even worse) and hope that when I get a new rig in November, better performance will help my game.

Kipper

2012-09-01, 08:46 PM

I haven't landed a kill yet - I'm not the finest twitch gamer at the best of times, but I'm getting 13-18 FPS with my rig, and reliably killed by every enemy I meet before I've even had chance to land a shot, in most cases.

Its incredibly hard to aim at such a low framerate, and impossible to use vehicles.

That's what's just made me blow £450 on a new CPU/GPU and some extra RAM :)

If i'm gonna suck, I'm gonna do it because I lack skills, not frames per second...:lol:

DaMann

2012-09-02, 02:18 AM

I feel the same way. Ive been playing for 2 weeks and Im used to using a 3.4 scope for Bf3. I tried using the same and im not aiming well at all. My sensitivity is fine but I cant get the fine control down like in other games. Then when I no scope I still have a tough time, and this is coming from someone who has played hundreds (maybe thousands) of hours in CS:S. Its really just the game. Its not fully optimized for gameplay and graphics so Im sure its not you or me but the game (but just right now).

rTekku

2012-09-02, 02:22 AM

Don't concern yourself with how low your K/D ratio is or how "bad" you're doing. At this point it really doesn't matter considering how the game isn't anywhere near completion yet. Still lots of balance issues and many certs aren't even in the game yet.

Just focus on testing, learning, and enjoying the game for now. You will improve in time.

Hamma

2012-09-02, 02:42 AM

Go back to playing TR and you will play much better. ;)

TheBladeRoden

2012-09-03, 06:50 AM

Sniping at 10 fps is no fun

Morat

2012-09-03, 10:02 AM

I found it very tough at first, and I'm still finding it pretty harsh. Partly I think the huge cone of fire doesn't help noobs with default weapons, partly the fact that it takes a very short time to die means that quite often the player who gets the first round on target will win. As TR, I find the NC Gauss kills me incredibly fast.

Absentis

2012-09-03, 10:11 AM

In my case, it's because TR's CoF is extremely wide, even when aiming down sights. This makes TR units much more vulnerable to anything more than medium range since their bullets also do so little damage. I played NC for a while as well, but had no problems with hitting and killing at pretty much any range.

I feel the netcode/hit detection/something is also extremely off. You could pump a whole magazine into someone and still not score any hits if they were standing still and you're right on top of them.

HeatLegend

2012-09-03, 10:34 AM

I have the same kinda problem. In other games I usually have about 1-2 KD.

But in PS2 I currently have 0.87 or so - not a MAJOR difference but I feel the same way; In 1v1 battles I either get lucky and headshot them several times so they die, OR: I just fire behind them, hit a few shots but they get me down pretty quick.

Mostly using Light Assault so I'm not doing maximum damage. I've got bad fps too. I've also got a very bad mouse ( I know, the cliché complaint ). But all my others are broken from nerd-rage so I'm using some small fucker right now which doesnt provide you with a good grip, my mousepad sucks as well so I'm playing against the wooden desk. I'll get new ones as soon as I can be bothered to though.

Electrofreak

2012-09-03, 10:47 AM

Go back to playing TR and you will play much better. ;)

Stop trying to convince me to play the OP faction Hamma. :p

Seriously though, I broke down and made some changes to my screen resolution which pulled my frames up and suddenly I was doing a lot better. Single-handedly thwarted a Galaxy full of TR that landed on an airpad at Hvar the other night using a flamethrower MAX followed by a Burster MAX.

The optimizations the devs are making help too.

I'm starting to think that my suckage has just been a combination of poor frames and just being rusty at FPS. I think I try to ADS too much in close-quarters combat, as I've been forcing myself to quit trying to quick-scope headshots at close range and just use hipfire.

Setari

2012-09-03, 11:26 AM

I was going to assume it's just because you are Electrofreak.

Electrofreak

2012-09-03, 11:31 AM

I was going to assume it's just because you are Electrofreak.

Thanks Setari. :p

Pvt Badger

2012-09-03, 11:37 AM

Sniping at 10 fps is no fun

Try being me in Halo 3 with the sniper rifle. I couldn't hit an enemy while he was asleep with the thing. I was just a bullet magnet for my friends.:)

Baneblade

2012-09-03, 12:24 PM

I tend to find myself doing much better when the game machine is pulling off 60+ fps.

Gugabalog

2012-09-03, 12:28 PM

I'm in beta but have not yet had the chance to jump in and play. I keep seeing things about this and I think, "Ohhhh man, I'm actually gonna have to do my job as a beta tester!" q.q

Canaris

2012-09-03, 12:31 PM

Wiser man than me once said

Sometimes the Bar eats you! - YouTube

Johari

2012-09-03, 03:07 PM

Slow down a bit and don't sprint around bases when you don't have to and you think that there's enemies around. Checking corners and always being prepared to get into a gunfight will help. First couple of days I was doing terrible k/d wise but I was contributing to the VS cause by capturing territories. Now I'm reaching 2.0 k/d while still being a teamplayer.

Socks

2012-09-03, 03:10 PM

i dont have to tell a ps1 vet to stick with his squad right? ;)

Tatwi

2012-09-03, 03:58 PM

I haven't really played fps games in years, apart from planetside, but I tend to really amaze myself with how well I am able to do in PS2, even at 5 FPS or less at times. I play HA mostly, because I like the rocket launcher play and the 100 shot clip rifle with a scope. I often take people out from 200m, but even at close range, despite the huge CoF on the HA rifles, I do surprisingly well. Part of it is likely that I am always in motion, looking up, down, and to my sides; I try to understand everything that is going on around me, so I am not surprised and so I can make smart choices when deciding what the enemies are going to do. I seem to be very good at guessing others tactics and using that to surprise them lol...

All that said, there are times when I am just bloody awful and can't seem to hit anything or I get completely owned instantly. There was a post about this on the beta forum and lots of people seem to agree that some of the combat damage calculations are way random. Most of the times that I get killed, it couldn't be avoided, but I have some frustrating death streaks just due to plan old suckage on my part.

Compared to all those folks with a KD greater than 1 and a bazillion kills, I suck royal arse, but given the amount of times I've taken back or held outposts alone or with the couple others who were around and all the points and towers -ve help defend, I know I am doing my part. Honestly, I don't care about the death stat - shit happens, carry on.

SecondRaven

2012-09-03, 09:25 PM

You suck because you are not in my squad. Silly electro...

Electrofreak

2012-09-04, 01:15 AM

You suck because you are not in my squad. Silly electro...

You know what man... that's pretty much it. Tonight I played with my brother, KnightWyvern, like we always used to. And holy shit, we tore it up. I forgot to check my K/D before the servers closed but I had to have been better than 2:1 tonight.

At one point my brother was sitting on a tower at the corner a VS base, sniping people left and right, knifing, pistol shooting, and point-blank headshotting infantry who came up the tower after him. I ran almost a kilometer as a combat medic dropping infantry along the way while he fought them off. I even made it into the VS base and up the tower to heal him, and then we proceeded to just obliterate a swarm of VS spawning under a Galaxy inside the base. We finally got killed by a VS MAX that snuck up on us because we got greedy for kills, lol.

But yeah... my frame rates were pretty good tonight, and that helped, but what I was missing was playing alongside someone I really knew. My bro kept me topped off with ammo and kept me alive when I was a MAX, I rezzed him when he died when I was a medic, we annihilated enemy tanks from our Vanguard, and we basically rocked the 2-man sniper team.

Anyhow, tonight owned, and I definitely figured out what was missing from the old days! I've got my game back... now we just gotta get some of the old posse back together!
:sniper:

Salad Snake

2012-09-04, 01:15 AM

You aren't trying Vanu sniper are you? Or driving any tanks?

Also, keep in mind that the recoil and CoF penalty for taking damage is pretty steep right now, so relocate instead of trying to potshot between hits when someone's shooting at your infiltrator, even at long range.

Shinjorai

2012-09-04, 02:15 AM

To the OP , dont worry about it part of it im sure is the low fps youre getting, its really hard to aim when youre lagging, i have a very hard time in the big battles currently because of the same thing but when im gettin decent fps i do alright. Best thing to do is not to think about it or dwell on it too much or itll make it worse, just hop in have fun and dont worry about the KD over time itll improve.

You know what man... that's pretty much it. Tonight I played with my brother, KnightWyvern, like we always used to. And holy shit, we tore it up. I forgot to check my K/D before the servers closed but I had to have been better than 2:1 tonight.

At one point my brother was sitting on a tower at the corner a VS base, sniping people left and right, knifing, pistol shooting, and point-blank headshotting infantry who came up the tower after him. I ran almost a kilometer as a combat medic dropping infantry along the way while he fought them off. I even made it into the VS base and up the tower to heal him, and then we proceeded to just obliterate a swarm of VS spawning under a Galaxy inside the base. We finally got killed by a VS MAX that snuck up on us because we got greedy for kills, lol.

But yeah... my frame rates were pretty good tonight, and that helped, but what I was missing was playing alongside someone I really knew. My bro kept me topped off with ammo and kept me alive when I was a MAX, I rezzed him when he died when I was a medic, we annihilated enemy tanks from our Vanguard, and we basically rocked the 2-man sniper team.

Anyhow, tonight owned, and I definitely figured out what was missing from the old days! I've got my game back... now we just gotta get some of the old posse back together!
:sniper:

Sorry just seen this last post after i posted what i did above. Thats great man glad to hear it. This game is definitely alot better with good people at your back.

Baneblade

2012-09-04, 09:43 AM

You know what man... that's pretty much it. Tonight I played with my brother, KnightWyvern, like we always used to. And holy shit, we tore it up. I forgot to check my K/D before the servers closed but I had to have been better than 2:1 tonight.

At one point my brother was sitting on a tower at the corner a VS base, sniping people left and right, knifing, pistol shooting, and point-blank headshotting infantry who came up the tower after him. I ran almost a kilometer as a combat medic dropping infantry along the way while he fought them off. I even made it into the VS base and up the tower to heal him, and then we proceeded to just obliterate a swarm of VS spawning under a Galaxy inside the base. We finally got killed by a VS MAX that snuck up on us because we got greedy for kills, lol.

But yeah... my frame rates were pretty good tonight, and that helped, but what I was missing was playing alongside someone I really knew. My bro kept me topped off with ammo and kept me alive when I was a MAX, I rezzed him when he died when I was a medic, we annihilated enemy tanks from our Vanguard, and we basically rocked the 2-man sniper team.

Anyhow, tonight owned, and I definitely figured out what was missing from the old days! I've got my game back... now we just gotta get some of the old posse back together!
:sniper:

You could always run with us for a bit.

Bocheezu

2012-09-04, 10:46 AM

It's really about the framerate. In the big zergs I get about 15 fps right now with frequent 1-2 sec lockups and I'm nothing but fodder for other people. I just roll as engy and ferry ammo to the front lines because I can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Outside of the Allatum area, in the small zergs I can get about 30 fps, which is barely enough to compete. I still roll either Dual Cycler MAX or HA because I cannot kill anybody with the other classes.

Grummz

2012-09-04, 12:52 PM

I admit I'm pretty horrible at PS2 as well. When encountering another person, it seems like a 50/50 random chance who dies.

Cosmical

2012-09-04, 01:13 PM

Im totally getting you man (OP), in my mind i'm blaming it a lot on the VS weapons. Which despite being my favorite faction, totally don't suit my play style. But i despise the NC.

Im not sure if your problem is similar to mine, but as far as target acquisition goes, its really hard to make out players from environments. Particularly indoors.

Im pretty frigging good at battlefield, and i can spot enemies as literal pixels on both games. But get into a hectic or nighttime battle indoors, with the flashing lights, and shields discharging, and random traces. Even in a one on one it becomes confusing as hell.

About the only way i've found to get consistent kills is to rely on the spotting system. But when i'm shooting at red arrows and name tags more than people. You have to wonder if its a mechanic or a flaw.

Particularly when vehicle combat becomes, who spotted who through the explosions.

Tatwi

2012-09-04, 04:59 PM

I admit I'm pretty horrible at PS2 as well. When encountering another person, it seems like a 50/50 random chance who dies.

DOOD! Not only did the CEO of Red5 Studios just post in your thread, but he posted about how he sucks at PS2! This has got to be some kind of Internet moment in history, Electrofreak. :lol:

Electrofreak

2012-09-04, 06:27 PM

DOOD! Not only did the CEO of Red5 Studios just post in your thread, but he posted about how he sucks at PS2! This has got to be some kind of Internet moment in history, Electrofreak. :lol:

I'll take my blackmail opportunities where I can get them. Can we get a statement from Smed too while we're at it? :p

Sunrock

2012-09-04, 06:54 PM

Stop trying to convince me to play the OP faction Hamma. :p

Wait a sec TR is op? Have anyone that play TR been told this? Because I play mostly TR but have a battle rank 5 NC and VS too. Just to test reasons... And I can't see this at all. Both NC and VS have better things then TR like NC have better tanks VS have better attack plains and so on.

But TBH no faction is OP. They have some small differences sure. But the faction population is 1000% more more important then any differences there are between the factions.

Grummz

2012-09-04, 09:16 PM

DOOD! Not only did the CEO of Red5 Studios just post in your thread, but he posted about how he sucks at PS2! This has got to be some kind of Internet moment in history, Electrofreak. :lol:

Well...we *do* try to be open and transparent as a company. Gonna log more hours and see if I improve. ;)

Snipefrag

2012-09-05, 04:54 AM

I've been having the same problems as you Eletrofreak, and I'm putting it down to my rig. You cant play properly if you are dropping down to 5-15 FPS all the time, there is no consistency to your aim. You cant get used to the weapons, cone of fire, leading targets when your swamped by lag. My new rig is (hopefully) coming today so things should improve for me at least *fingers crossed*.

Maarvy

2012-09-05, 05:26 AM

Go back to playing TR and you will play much better. ;)

This

Any half arsed spastic could run about on a cycler and do ok .

Derp it up with the rest ....

diLLa

2012-09-05, 07:45 AM

A lot of people exaggerate the importance of having good aim, even though good aim is probably the least important thing if you want to play well.

This pretty much sums it up:

Part of it is likely that I am always in motion, looking up, down, and to my sides; I try to understand everything that is going on around me, so I am not surprised and so I can make smart choices when deciding what the enemies are going to do. I seem to be very good at guessing others tactics and using that to surprise them lol...

Work on that, and you should be fine.

Electrofreak

2012-09-08, 01:33 PM

A lot of people exaggerate the importance of having good aim, even though good aim is probably the least important thing if you want to play well.

This pretty much sums it up:

Work on that, and you should be fine.

Well I'm not new to playing FPS by any stretch of the imagination and situational awareness or aim has never been a problem for me, though I do have a tendency to ADS when I should hipfire.

My K/D has easily climbed back up to around 2/1 or higher after I started squadding up with my brother just like old times, and improving performance on my rig has helped substantially as well.

So it looks like I figured out why I was sucking so bad - poor frame rates coupled with lone-wolf gameplay. Better game performance and playing alongside someone I've gamed with for over 10 years has completely turned my game around!