Russian Region-lock, WTF?

[NewSith]

@j_smedley are people from Russia going to be limited to play on Innova's servers alone? In other words, Region lock: y / n?

@the_player in that case yes.



Excuse me, what? Does this actually mean that I will not be able to use SOE (or Pro7 for that matter) client or to get access to any non-russian servers AT ALL?

With all due respect, that sounds like a cheap fucking troll... I'm tired of being objective, so let's take it to the more individual level - I am a respected player of Russian origin and I never ever used any hacks/cheats in any Multiplayer or MMO game (if that's the reasoning you are going to give), I have a good half of the European VS and some NC players to vouch for me in that regard.

I (and 3 other english-speaking Russians) also belong to the most famous EU MercenaryS outfit, with which we (I) made not just friendly, but brotherly ties. And you are telling me that I AM NOT ALLOWED to play with them? Excuse me, but that is a f*cking bulls**t.

Of course I may be misunderstanding something, but what you, Smedley, good sir, said, can surely as hell only be interpreted in one single way...

And, just if there are "intelligent" people suggesting to use VPN - can you guarantee that VPN will function properly for me? Or that I will not be banned for using it after frigging 10 years of flawless rep playing on an SOE account?

[EVILPIG]

How do you think they would keep you off of the other servers?

[NewSith]

How do you think they would keep you off of the other servers?

So you want to play in your state only, don't you?

[Azarga]

I guess it's a good time to sell my SOE account before it's too late. I will NEVAH play under Innova again, so $40 for Alpha Squad are wasted for me if I don't sell it.

[Captain1nsaneo]

If I remember a similar thing was going to happen to EU but then we found out that players would be able to play on any server. I'd pursue this a little more before cutting ties.

[NewSith]

If I remember a similar thing was going to happen to EU but then we found out that players would be able to play on any server. I'd pursue this a little more before cutting ties.

We're assembling a friendly delegation to Innova's office on wednesday where most of our questions will be answered. However I have all the reasons to believe that the RU community has the motive to ignite the flames before that.

The bear must be contained.

Ha. Ha. Not funny. At all.

[Illtempered]

This would be totally unfair. I prefer equal treatment. I wanna be able to shoot Russians too!!

[sylphaen]

Some big hat must have paid a big license fee to lock you inside russia... I support your cause.

Region locks are a bad thing for players.

I know people in both NA and EU so course i will want to be able to play on both SOE and Pro7 with one account.

Players should be left that choice and where they pay their service should be irrelevant.

[PredatorFour]

As much as i disliked fighting you guys, this is wank! You swhould be able to play on whatever server too!

[Figment]

Full support from me Newsith. After the Pro7 shitstorm, you'd think they'd act proactively... Sure, the RU playerbase in PS1 was only a few hundred individuals and sure, if they played from the Ural their connections were crap. But they're still just as much part of the PS family as any other Aussie, EU and US players. The fast majority of Russians would prefer a cyrrilic server probably, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a choice.

[ringring]

More power to your elbow Newsith.

From Werner TR we've enjoyed playing with and against Russian players. Some greaat guys and great outfits. Not to mention the Russians in Outcasters.

[MGP]

Goodbye Planetside. It was fun 6 years.

[Wargrim]

Region locks are totally shit. The Russian / Eastern European players should be able to play with everyone else. They should get the same deal that we Western / Central Europeans got: Payment bound to the local partner, but able to play on the server of choice.

This is 2012. People have friends all over the world and want to play with them. This is what multiplayer is about. This is what MMO is about. Take that away and you can have the best game ever, it is useless.

[Sledgecrushr]

Ive played against some really awesome Russians. Its a good bunch and would be bad for the rest of the world to limit them to their own part of the world.

[Crator]

What's the deal with region locking? Why would SOE even support something like that after the Pro7 region locking uproar? Unless it's a legal issue.

[NewSith]

What's the deal with region locking? Why would SOE even support something like that after the Pro7 region locking uproar? Unless it's a legal issue.

No legal issue here, assuming we can safely play PS1 on Werner/Gemini...

[Azarga]

Okay, now euro players who already have SOE account can choose between Pro7 and SOE. http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/eu-customer-and-prosiebensat-1-10-16-2012.32725/#post-427663
Hate to be pessimistic, but somehow I got a feeling that we won't have the same luxury with Innova.

[FortySe7en]

Didn't they say anyone who switched from DCUO could never come back to SOE?

[Azarga]

Didn't they say anyone who switched from DCUO could never come back to SOE?

They say, those who have already swithced cannot return. Those who haven't can stay under SOE.

[IceyCold]

Mr. Smedley... Tear down this wall!

/signed another American for unified servers.

[basti]

Sith, in case your meeting with the folks goes badly, rest assured that us guys here under Pro7, and also those guys under SOE, will roar loudly with you.

Splitting the community is a bad idea!

[MGP]

Any news?

[Baneblade]

No war game is complete without the Rooskies.

[NewSith]

Apparently it's on the SOE's end, Innova claims that it may be a case of miscommunication... No certain info yet.

[Azarga]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=961&stc=1&d=1350625050

[Azarga]

Apparently it's on the SOE's end, Innova claims that it may be a case of miscommunication... No certain info yet.

Yep they're still working it out.

[NewSith]

Okay, good news on this - region lock will be absent, according to Innova's product manager.

[ringring]

Okay, good news on this - region lock will be absent, according to Innova's product manager.

Good news .... :)

[sylphaen]

Very good for russian players !

[Captain1nsaneo]

Glad to hear this got addressed.

It suddenly occurs to me that if you lived in the cooler parts of the world that if you left your computer outside in some sort of plastic wrap, you could overclock to your heart's delight.

[Ritual]

Until Russia enforces IP laws, anti hacking laws, business laws, you have no leg to stand on by demanding you play on European servers.

Im even more glad you cant play on American servers.

Welcome to the world and its realities. We are part of different sovereign nations.

Maybe Russia should make their own video games? Why is it always American companies making them?

Want to know the last time I played a Russian video game? NEVER. :groovy:

:lol: Yeah Russia sucks

[sylphaen]

Until Russia enforces IP laws, anti hacking laws, business laws, you have no leg to stand on by demanding you play on European servers.

Im even more glad you cant play on American servers.

Welcome to the world and its realities. We are part of different sovereign nations.

Maybe Russia should make their own video games? Why is it always American companies making them?

Want to know the last time I played a Russian video game? NEVER. :groovy:

:lol: Yeah Russia sucks

Either the joke is not obvious in your post or you are not joking. Either way, the content is very thick and I hope a mod comes around.
:evil:

At the same time that you belittle other great nations, you rub yourself to American success as if you hoped some of its sparkle would stick to you and make you shine.

If you are able to think further than your hole, try to look deep down in history and trace where modern America comes from.

That's right! NOT FROM RUSSIA.
:evil:

And yeah, stupidity sucks!


Edit: FYI, I felt I had to report your post. It's the first time so I guess you win at something.

[NewSith]

Until Russia enforces IP laws, anti hacking laws, business laws, you have no leg to stand on by demanding you play on European servers.

Wait, so you're saying American troops are leaving Eurasia?

[Captain1nsaneo]

Until Russia enforces IP laws,...

Congratulations on being illiterate! Your inability to properly read and process text is a shining beacon in these dark times of enlightenment. May you continue ever onward in your misinformed manner.

[Ritual]

Congratulations on being illiterate! Your inability to properly read and process text is a shining beacon in these dark times of enlightenment. May you continue ever onward in your misinformed manner.

He wanted to know why SOE would region lock him.

I told him why. There was no failure of communication or comprehension. He doesn't understand that its not his right to be able to play on whatever servers he wants, from a game made in the USA.

If Russians want that right, they should make Planetside 2 themselves. He will have to deal with Pro Bien Sat (KGB extorters) or whoever is handling your region and hope they put up a server you are allowed to play on otherwise.

As I pointed out, name one good game that a Russian game studio has ever made? A supposed first world country with millions upon millions of people and they can't even make video games. They can launch Sputnik but they can't computer program or draw art apparantly.

Heck even Asia is putting out semi decent video games. Yet he comes here and whine's.

I would be embarrassed to make this post. I would be going back to school or trying to recruit all the drunk Russians to figure out how to use computers so next time someone tells you how much Russians suck at computer science, you can give me an example of a game that has had world wide success that was made in Russia. :D:cool:

And dont take the post so seriously. Its only really because I want to see more good games being made. Wether they be Russian, American, Chinese, Japanese, Iranian, Iraqi, whatever.

[Crator]

^ No one should be suppressed that way. How about we allow them to participate in things everyone else does so they can see what they are missing? Build some dreams and aspirations instead of segment them away from us?

[NewSith]

I told him why. There was no failure of communication or comprehension. He doesn't understand that its not his right to be able to play on whatever servers he wants, from a game made in the USA.

How so? So basically, (exemplary) if I'm a Russian by my bloodright, yet born inside the USA, I should not be allowed to communicate to other Russians (nor should they be allowed to communicate with me) because I was made in the USA?

As I pointed out, name one good game that a Russian game studio has ever made? A supposed first world country with millions upon millions of people and they can't even make video games. They can launch Sputnik but they can't computer program or draw art apparantly.

Stalker? Metro? IL-2? (God forgive me, but) WoT?

[Mordicant]

Please note not all Americans are represented by this isolationist asshat. I for one would love to fight anyone who can connect. +1 to world servers

[Ritual]

Noone has answered why the rest of the world sucks at making video games.

90% of games are made in the USA.

Props to Czech Republic and Bohemia Interactive for at least making Operation Flashpoint, and Arma. Which are at the top of their genre for realistic first person shooters.

USA + Czech Republic + Korea are the only three country's making decent video games that are trying to be cutting edge?

Pathetic.


I can't recall a product I use everyday not invented in America. Radio, TV, Internet, Computers, Video Games, Cell Phones, GPS, Toilet Paper, Automobiles, Airplanes.

What does the rest of the world do for work? Obviously nothing in science or digital entertainment. At least without it emulating what has already been done. I mean Russia's example is Stalker? What was revolutionary or popular about Stalker? It was a one week hit at most. And it was made in the Ukraine, not Russia.

IL-2 Sturmovik was not a popular game. Microsoft Flight Simulator crapped on it in sales. IL-2 was just a combat flight sim with horrible graphics. It wasn't revolutionary or even a success. There is a reason Ubisoft doesn't publish any new IL-2 titles. :lol::lol::lol:

Yes I am being hard on the world, but im really only half serious. Maybe NewSith will get mad and become a great Russian Video Game developer.

[PredatorFour]

90% of games are made in the USA.

I can't recall a product I use everyday not invented in America. Radio, TV, Internet, Computers, Video Games, Cell Phones, GPS, Toilet Paper, Automobiles, Airplanes.

What does the rest of the world do for work? Obviously nothing in science or digital entertainment.

Obvious troll... making up info/stats. The last line quoted is beyond laughable, at least you are funny...not sure if you mean it.

[SixShooter]

Okay, good news on this - region lock will be absent, according to Innova's product manager.

That's great news.

It's too bad this thread has been completely derailed some total douchebaggery.

One word - Tetris :thumbsup:

:cheers:

[NewSith]

Noone has answered why the rest of the world sucks at making video games.

90% of games are made in the USA.

Props to Czech Republic and Bohemia Interactive for at least making Operation Flashpoint, and Arma. Which are at the top of their genre for realistic first person shooters.

USA + Czech Republic + Korea are the only three country's making decent video games that are trying to be cutting edge?

Pathetic.

Now there is a problem... Not being nationalistic here, just point out the surnames of all of these games developers.

Smith, White, Black etc are a very rare occasion there... Plus, every supposedly American studio has branches all over the world. So it's not about America creating something better, but more about grabbing all the people that can do better. And kudos to it for that.

But making games? Naaaah, it's more about who it's from then, where it's from.


I can't recall a product I use everyday not invented in America. Radio, TV, Internet, Computers, Video Games, Cell Phones, GPS, Toilet Paper, Automobiles, Airplanes.

Well, Europeans invented America and democracy if you want to play the inventions card.

What does the rest of the world do for work? Obviously nothing in science or digital entertainment. At least without it emulating what has already been done. I mean Russia's example is Stalker? What was revolutionary or popular about Stalker? It was a one week hit at most. And it was made in the Ukraine, not Russia.

IL-2 Sturmovik was not a popular game. Microsoft Flight Simulator crapped on it in sales. IL-2 was just a combat flight sim with horrible graphics. It wasn't revolutionary or even a success. There is a reason Ubisoft doesn't publish any new IL-2 titles. :lol::lol::lol:

IL-2 was a great sim for WW2 setting lovers. Actually Russia made lots of good ww2-related stuff (WoT, Silent Storm). I am surprised that CoD wasn't made by Russia.

As for Stalker, you see Ukraine and Russia as different countries. This implies UA does better than RU. This makes me assume you either have Ukranian roots or is actually Ukranian. Also how about Nival? Do you consider it to be a Russian Company or "European"? Or even American?

And finally Stalker was a game with not many analogs - it was an FPSRPG.

Yes I am being hard on the world, but im really only half serious. Maybe NewSith will get mad and become a great Russian Video Game developer.

Despite all your obvious trolling, I do consider you to be correct. America owns the world. But instead of making better games I would rather become a diplomat and fight to reduce the western influence in Europe.

[NewSith]

Who let the Russians looose!

Sorry, Eclipse, I'm coming with my cheats to ruin ur funz.

[sylphaen]

Sorry, Eclipse, I'm coming with my cheats to ruin ur funz.

Wait... I thought we Americans were the best at everything ?
:eek:

Or according to Ritual, maybe it's because you're an American Born Russian that you're not a total waste of space and resources on earth ? America has been such a gift to humanity in offering the planet its truly superior human beings !
:rolleyes:

Its ideals of freedom and justice are crying in silence...
:doh:

[Dagron]

Feed that troll guys, Cthulhu likes them nice and plump when he devours their bodies and souls.

[sylphaen]

Feed that troll guys, Cthulhu wants him nice and plump when he devours his body and soul.

Very descriptive. :rofl:

I'm just wondering who will play the Avatar of Chtulu. I hope it will be Basti.
:D

[NewSith]

Feed that troll guys, Cthulhu likes them nice and plump when he devours their bodies and souls.

From what he says, I would safely assume that he actually believes in what he says, at least partially. This makes it a very sad experience...

[Ritual]

All your base are belong to America

/endthread :love:

I think Russia would be really good at making horror movies though. Like a Apollo 13 horror movie where some Russian cosmonauts on some secret Russian military program end up finding out our solar system folds back into itself and we are imprisoned by an evil entity controlling the world and they inevitably call on NASA to help figure it out, but the movie ends with the evil entity winning but humans go about their lives not knowing the cruel fate millions of people are enduring at the hands of some sadistic aliens using us for science experiments.

But set in like a Paranormal esque reality camera mode.

There I gave you an idea, you have the power to take on Hollywood now. Dont say I never did anything for the motherland.

[OpolE]

Its all fucked up and rushed. This will just make more people come back to PS1 YE!

[bpostal]

So what is my outfit supposed to do with our Russian members?
Sorry but you can't play with us anymore?

[SixShooter]

All your base are belong to America

/endthread :love:

I think Russia would be really good at making horror movies though. Like a Apollo 13 horror movie where some Russian cosmonauts on some secret Russian military program end up finding out our solar system folds back into itself and we are imprisoned by an evil entity controlling the world and they inevitably call on NASA to help figure it out, but the movie ends with the evil entity winning but humans go about their lives not knowing the cruel fate millions of people are enduring at the hands of some sadistic aliens using us for science experiments.

But set in like a Paranormal esque reality camera mode.

There I gave you an idea, you have the power to take on Hollywood now. Dont say I never did anything for the motherland.

That totally reminded me about Nightwatch/Daywatch, 2 fucking great Russian movies :thumbsup:

:cheers:

[Goku]

Topic is way off course. Closing it.