An Aim Bot has emerged

[LampShade]

I didn't make it, for the record. Here's the youtube link...

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[Fazed]

There's been some out for a month or so now, are you advertising for them or something?

[Hamma]

I've removed the links and reported the content. The less publicity we have on this stuff the better I don't want PSU to be a source of people figuring out how to hack.

In the future - report these to devs via PM on the Official forums or here. Or feel free to report them to me, but don't post up links and videos.

[LampShade]

No I'm not advertising, I'm trying to get word out so Sony can put in some bot protection. Is Sony going to use Punk Buster or something?

[LampShade]

I've removed the links and reported the content. The less publicity we have on this stuff the better I don't want PSU to be a source of people figuring out how to hack.

In the future - report these to devs via PM on the Official forums or here. Or feel free to report them to me, but don't post up links and videos.

Probably for the best, thanks. I just wanted to get word out so this can be stopped.

[PoisonTaco]

No I'm not advertising, I'm trying to get word out so Sony can put in some bot protection. Is Sony going to use Punk Buster or something?

Regardless if you're intending to advertise or not, someone who throws in "PS2 aim bot" into google could potentially find this thread, then the link and the youtube video. They then find the hacks and look for a way to acquire them.

It happens. Even on my own community's site, whenever we make threads about sharing beta keys to members we get random people who sign up on the site going "can I has one?!"

But yeah as Hamma said, your best bet is to just PM it to them. I'm sure there's also an email you can find too.

[Hosp]

I've removed the links and reported the content. The less publicity we have on this stuff the better I don't want PSU to be a source of people figuring out how to hack.

In the future - report these to devs via PM on the Official forums or here. Or feel free to report them to me, but don't post up links and videos.

:love:

[PClownPosse]

I don't remember, but did Sony build in some basic anti-cheat mechanism in ps1? I hope they did or do for ps2.

Like VAC or something that would at least deter the casual cheaters. Nothing deteriorates a game more than cheating, even if it's just rumors. They need to squash this now, especially if real money is involved for legitimate players.

[PoisonTaco]

I don't remember, but did Sony build in some basic anti-cheat mechanism in ps1? I hope they did or do for ps2.

Like VAC or something that would at least deter the casual cheaters. Nothing deteriorates a game more than cheating, even if it's just rumors. They need to squash this now, especially if real money is involved for legitimate players.

I think they're going to, but they're also going to be relying more on admins in-game to watch players. They've got a spectator mode that devs can turn on and use, so that's one step in the right direction.

Report a player, get an admin to watch their screen then issue out the ban hammer. No anti-cheat software or system will ever be better than an admin.

[Hosp]

PS1 had an anti-cheat "Algorithm" which spit flags about potentially cheating players that a GM would have to then "investigate" to see if they deserve a ban.

Unfortunately, the cheats in PS1 were very subtle in most cases and for whatever reason (budget cuts I'm guessing), many of the cheaters in PS1 got away with it.

[PClownPosse]

Ban their MAC, ban their IP address, ban their monitor serial number and if possible ban their hard drive serial number. This system works and if people are forced to change their hardware in order to play again, this would send a clear message to those wanting to cheat.

Yeah. Kind of worrisome since this game is FTP.

At least the old subscription model/account ownership was a deterrence unto itself.

Here, any riff-raff can come in and cause chaos if they wanted to.

Anyways, people won't spend money if they feel like this game is compromised. At least I won't.

[Bittermen]

Wonderful.


It's funny that people actually buy this shit. Very pathetic.

[elementHTTP]

Well this in nothing new
Making aim/wh-s is big business now
Only way to combat this is to hire more programers to write anti cheat algorithms (never ending battle )

LoL has good anti cheat system (they have whole department for that )

[Fazed]

never ending battle

That is so true, if there's someone to do it, there's someone to undo it.

Let's hope our friends at SOE purchases a ban sledgehammer.

[Ritual]

The Feds need to get involved in these hacker's and send Navy Seal hitsquads after them.

Or at least counter hack them, to the point they never dare advertise another game hack to the USA market.

[Fazed]

The Feds need to get involved in these hacker's and send Navy Seal hitsquads after them.

Or at least counter hack them, to the point they never dare advertise another game hack to the USA market.

Well, in some sort of way that should be done.. I'm pretty sure that if those guys knows how to unpack the files of the game that are protected, they also **** around with all kind of illegal informatics activities.

I suggest that we put every hack developers in a concentration camp and decimate them to give it an end. (That might be pushing it a little bit far, just burn their computers)

[maradine]

Sellers have no market without buyers.

[DirtyBird]

I didn't make it, for the record. Here's the youtube link...
Should have reported it yourself over on the PS2 forums LampShade, they are looking at rewarding those who alert them to hax's like this.

[Babyfark McGeez]

I will never get why people BUY an aimbot to play a game, or even use one at all. That's such a weird way to entertain yourself, immersion and challenge completely gone.
I remember trying one back in the days of Unreal Tournament, and it completely killed the fun for me.

[moosepoop]

I will never get why people BUY an aimbot to play a game, or even use one at all. That's such a weird way to entertain yourself, immersion and challenge completely gone.
I remember trying one back in the days of Unreal Tournament, and it completely killed the fun for me.

its about power and control.

[Fazed]

Sellers have no market without buyers.

Hack sellers/dev are evil and they know that there will always be someone to buy their stupid junk.

I'm sure some people justify hacking just because they figure "others hacks too".

Then there's gonna be the guys who "just wanted to try it".

Then there is going to be the 8 years old that saw his friend who "just tried" it and he's gonna be asking his parents to buy it for him and they will.

There isn't any straight forward way to stop them without having all measures setup to put sticks up their wheels: Have paypal/credit card companies/banks block payments going towards these fraudulent companies then have one carried in front of the tribunal and get fined to bankruptcy a million times to give the example.

The problem is that these guys setup their stuff in internet/fiscal paradises where they can't be struck by any laws. Even though they retail their product in your country doesn't seems like it gives them any issues carrying the funds over to their end.

[Babyfark McGeez]

its about power and control.

Well yeah i get that. I just don't get what's fun about that online. You can't even feel powerful when you know it's just the program doing the work. If i want to feel powerful and mighty i fire up Battlefield with (AI) bots or play GTA.

Then again i'm in my 30s and have other things to raise my self esteem.

[maradine]

The problem is that these guys setup their stuff in internet/fiscal paradises where they can't be struck by any laws. Even though they retail their product in your country doesn't seems like it gives them any issues carrying the funds over to their end.

I think a slightly more relevant problem is that they're not breaking any laws.

I'm not trying to give you the impression that I condone any piece of this equation. It's just that, after 6 years of doing financial threat intel, there are certain realities you need to embrace. The first is that a market doesn't exist without buyers.

The second is that there is no legislative paradise that can't be moved with the right lever.

[Fazed]

We obviously need more laws >_>

[PClownPosse]

The most important thing is that it's against SOE's ToS and they take appropriate action.

I just hope they have more active (and passive) abilities to detect these hackers than relying on us to file reports and having GM's watch them. Things could get extremely busy for them.

[Hamma]

Someone will ALWAYS hack. It makes them feel superior.. it sucks but it is what it is. If SOE works hard to prevent it they will go play with their hacks in BF3 instead :p

[EVILPIG]

I've removed the links and reported the content. The less publicity we have on this stuff the better I don't want PSU to be a source of people figuring out how to hack.

In the future - report these to devs via PM on the Official forums or here. Or feel free to report them to me, but don't post up links and videos.

*uses PSU Search function for "planetside aim bot*

Hey look, a hit!

[KALU]

AIMBOTS AND HACKERS ALREADY :( please dont let this be true

[Galron]

I see people walking along at a constant altitude about 50 meters in the air blinking on and off.

[Tatwi]

I think a slightly more relevant problem is that they're not breaking any laws.

I'm not trying to give you the impression that I condone any piece of this equation. It's just that, after 6 years of doing financial threat intel, there are certain realities you need to embrace. The first is that a market doesn't exist without buyers.

The second is that there is no legislative paradise that can't be moved with the right lever.

If SOE can prove that the hacks,

A. Infringed on their copyright (as Blizzard proved that WoWGlider infringed on Blizzard's patents and copyright).
B. Caused SOE a loss in revenue.

then they are breaking US laws and they can be taken to court.

I see people walking along at a constant altitude about 50 meters in the air blinking on and off.

That's a bug. If you stay logged in after the server goes down, anything that is in motion keeps on moving lol...

[VaderShake]

No I'm not advertising, I'm trying to get word out so Sony can put in some bot protection. Is Sony going to use Punk Buster or something?

"Punk Buster" to stop aimbots/hacks...LOL, oh you sleigh me...."punk Buster" hahaha.

[FortySe7en]

then they are breaking US laws and they can be taken to court.



Good luck with that.

[maradine]

If SOE can prove that the hacks,

A. Infringed on their copyright (as Blizzard proved that WoWGlider infringed on Blizzard's patents and copyright).
B. Caused SOE a loss in revenue.

then they are breaking US laws and they can be taken to court.


A. Copyright violation claims in MDY Indus. LLC v. Blizzard Entm't, Inc. were thrown out by the 9th Circuit on appeal. Breach of contract (ie, ToS) stuck, and the part of DMCA that stuck was remanded. The issue is unresolved. Further, I'd be very careful in wishing for a world where copying licensed disk content into RAM constitutes grounds for copyright claim if the licensing body isn't happy with you.

B. The judgement on tortious interference (which I assume is what you meant) was vacated. "Causing someone to lose revenue" is not illegal in the US yet.

So, if I were SOE, I wouldn't be relying on that particular arrow in the quiver.

[CaptainSmall]

SOE needs to get anti-cheat right because of the client side hit detection. My game once played up and sort of disconnected, making my enemies stand still or slide in their current paths for about 20 seconds. I shot enemies and the game still granted me the kills.

Whilst this was a network hiccup, it shows that the client-side hit detection is vulnerable and someone could easily take advantage of this to say, direct the client to send a kill signal to every player in a particular hex.

[ElysianDawn]

No I'm not advertising, I'm trying to get word out so Sony can put in some bot protection. Is Sony going to use Punk Buster or something?


Punkbuster? i can say now, punkbuster has been busted a while ago by scrip kiddies, just look @ arma 2 Dayz, they use punkbuster.

However, i can't wait to get in and try out this game, been watching some beta footage on yt, seems kool. to bad i never got into open beta, nor have a key. gess ill stick with waiting a month.

[maradine]

to bad i never got into open beta, nor have a key. gess ill stick with waiting a month.

Or, you know, paying attention. ;)

http://www.planetside-universe.com/keyexchange.php?pid=5

[ElysianDawn]

Or, you know, paying attention. ;)

http://www.planetside-universe.com/keyexchange.php?pid=5

that thing does not work, i seen in the twitter chat side of the home page there many keys to be had, yet ive been trying it for hours and hours now keep getting this message

An error has occurred, please check your submission and try again.

even posted in what i think to be the appropriate place for the issue, yet still waiting for a reply.

[Hamma]

Looks like you got it to work.