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Gladiator
2003-03-26, 05:17 PM
What are the Rates or Ranks in the game i have not seen any i have seen squad leader and stuff like that but what are the ranks like Private or Private First Class.

NeoTassadar
2003-03-26, 05:27 PM
There are 20 Battle Ranks and 5 Command Ranks. As you gain battle ranks you can get certs and implants. As you get command ranks you get abilities for commanding your squad like waypoints, and at 5, global broadcasting to your entire empire.

Khronos
2003-03-26, 05:33 PM
i think he means like if you start an outfit or squad if u can promote and demote people and give them certain titles.

i, myself, am not 100% sure so i wont answer.

Duffman
2003-03-26, 05:52 PM
im not sure but wouldnt ranks within your squad other than the leader be decided by the outfit and would not effect the game play. Correct me if im wrong or if this isnt the question you are asking

Deadlock
2003-03-26, 06:23 PM
i remember some interview on this site saying that they were still trying to determin on if they would let outfits creat their own rank titles. dont know how that turned out in the end, dont think anything ever checked up on it.

mr_luc
2003-03-26, 06:27 PM
I would definitely suggest that they implement a setup for player organizations like DAoC guilds. You could set up multiple ranks, a hierarchy of control, with different permissions (permissions to let people in etc) -- now, those titles were only visible to people in your own Guild, and then only if they queried you, but that's the point -- it's for internal organizaton.

2coasts
2003-03-26, 09:06 PM
will anyone start off with level 5 command clearence, so that the empires will have someone to lead them when the game is firsts released? maybe a mod, or a former beta tester or something...

Flameseeker
2003-03-26, 09:13 PM
I very seriously doubt it.

Hamma
2003-03-26, 10:28 PM
I highly doubt it. You dont *need* a commander to play PS.

1024
2003-03-26, 11:14 PM
WKTGCO(wont know till game comes out)

Unknown
2003-03-27, 12:25 AM
Wouldn't it have just been easier to say that at first? Instead of typing out an unheard of acronym, then putting what it stands for in parinthesis? It would make more sense if the acronym actually spelled out a word, or if it was an existing, well known acronym.

Whoa... I'm in a nitpicky mood for some reason, don't mind me...

As for ranks, I'm sure there will be in-game support for a ranking system for outfits. What form it will take is anyone's guess. From what mr_luc said about DAoC, it might be like that, or it might be like T2 with only 4 ranks, we really don't know at this point, though my guess is that there will be a pretty thorough system for something as important as this.

Toimu
2003-03-27, 01:33 AM
In JumpGate, squad ranks have nothing to do with the game. The leader of the squad picks who has access to letting people in the squad. Everything else that has to do with squad organization is through that squads web site, and the people in the squad doing what is told from who they know is in charge. Giving a squad mate a title that shows up ingame is really pointless. Well, if you have an outfit with 500 poeple, it would be impossible to remember all the commanders, so this would be helpful.

Matuse
2003-03-27, 03:47 AM
Even on the assumption that they would put in a 5th rank commander from the get-go (they won't, but let us all travel on a flight of fancy)....who would it be? There would be no fair way to establish those individuals...and there would need to be quite a few of them. 3 factions * 5 release servers * 20 commanders (to cover different playtimes, and the large area of the world that needs coverage) each. What if (quite likely) some of them suck at it? Have the GM's run around and rate performance and hand out demotions? No thanks.

Zatrais
2003-03-27, 05:40 AM
Ingame ranks...

No word on annything on it cept BR 1 - 20 and CR 0-5... doubt it will be annything else in PS.. Outfits will have to assign ranks themselfs probably.

psst Matuse the VS isn't a different race.... yet. Still part of the human race... sadly.

Matuse
2003-03-27, 10:39 AM
The quote isn't mine, but given the source, is extremely appropriate to the Vanu.

Galen Diettinger > All, seriously.

Zatrais
2003-03-27, 10:43 AM
I don't see it, the terms clash for me.

The Vanu race dosn't fight for annything... the Vanu race has tracended to a higher plane of existance or so it's belived in the story line.

Now if Vanu is refering to the VS.... well then you're not fighting for a race but an empire hehe.

EarlyDawn
2003-03-27, 03:20 PM
I'd like to be able to give internal Outfit ranks. Helps orginization, creates natural dicipline, and I'd like to designate certain members of the Outfit as recruiters.

Matuse
2003-03-27, 09:12 PM
Without going into vast detail on the origin of the quote, read (if you can find a copy, I don't know if it is still in print), War World vol. II, Death's Head Rebellion..a short story anthology in the CoDominium universe originated by Jerry Pournelle. Specifically, the first story "The Face of the Enemy". It's *really* good.