There are no server admins

[Ritual]

At the crown just now on Waterson there is a guy named Maetijip aimbotting and speedhacking, killing people by the multiple dozens if not hundreds. We are all /reporting him and using /yell hoping that an admin can hear us.

The player is still running rampant.

In fact he managed to get to battle rank 41 and top of the leaderboards in the past few days somehow, by just hacking blatantly.

No server admins are responding.

WTF Sony? I am done paying for membership if you can't have admins watching the server. I want the dozen deaths from this ****** removed from my statistics, and I want something done so we can have a chat room for admins so when emergency's happen, we can contact someone in person.

That is not too much to ask for, for a subscription based MMOFPS.

Until then i'm not spending another dime.

[thegreekboy]

Open up a support ticket

[Ritual]

Open up a support ticket

I did.

I even started to use /yell hoping Admins are watching.

This has proven beyond a shadow of the doubt, no hackers are being detected. No admins are on the servers 24/7. They do not respond to /report or /yell or /re or anything else.

Opening up a support ticket could take days for a response.

This is a joke. I have played on public FPS servers for Counter Strike that were more policed then Planetside 2.

[Swiffle]

Hey, just saw this person too at Zurvan. Will go ahead an add a support ticket too :/

[Ritual]

SOE said there would be admins watching the servers 24/7 and that they would be banning hackers as fast as possible. People are getting to the top of the leaderbords by blatantly hacking for a week now? And not getting banned?

There are at LEAST 6 people in the top 20 on my server using blatant hacking that I personally know about. Nevermind overall on the server.

That is total failure.

Chat room admins would be better then nothing. I don't care if they get hammered with chat spam, I would at least like the peace of mind knowing I can at least try to contact one in person when there are problems. They don't need to respond to every "OMG WTF HE HAX" complaint, but when a whole region is witnessing a player blatantly hack, we would like to be able to get that person removed.

You couldn't get within a mile of the crown without being headshotted by an aimbot.

Blatant speedhacking.


No admin ever shows up, and I wouldn't be surprised if these player's are still playing. He was rank like 7 on the server in kills. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BLATANTLY HACK AND GET THAT FAR INTO THE LEADERBOARD WITHOUT SOE NOTICING?

SOE is totally incompetant.

[Ghoest9]

I experienced my first obvious hacker last night.

He was shooting me throw walls. A level 1 character who killed me slowly one shot at a time as I ran around in a building making sure he wasnt in a room with me.

It was clearly someone testing out a hack.

[Crator]

I experienced my first obvious hacker last night.

He was shooting me throw walls. A level 1 character who killed me slowly one shot at a time as I ran around in a building making sure he wasnt in a room with me.

It was clearly someone testing out a hack.

Hey, that's happened to me 2 days ago.

[Sturmhardt]

Yup, I saw a guy today who I reported yesterday on Miller for Speedhacking: Netbat
He was still playing, I am dissapoint :/

[Hmr85]

I have ran into quite a few on Connery. I have reported more than fair share of them who where blatantly speed hacking/aim botting and guess what. They are still playing...

[Ritual]

There are six people on the top 20 who I have seen hacking.

Waterson server:

Slash, Sulphur, Nado, Assist, Axaxin, Maetijip,

Plus a half dozen other regular players i see day to day aimbotting. And the speedhackers usually a few a day.

Awesome work SOE. Glad youre on top of it.

[Hamma]

:ugh:

[Juryrig]

Rest assured though that those filthy, depraved people who are daring to use a widescreen fix are being hunted down and banned to protect your gaming enjoyment!!

Just seen some of the aimbotting vids, being new to online FPS I hadn't really understood what the fuss was about.

Yeah. SOE - I'm not going to be spending any more cash on micro-transactions in a game where that's happening, k? Thx.

[PredatorFour]

Chill guys, punkbuster will take care of them..

[basti]

I have yet to see a single hacker myself. And im playing every day.

[SGOniell]

Getting a bit ridiculous

[Fear The Amish]

I have yet to see a single hacker myself. And im playing every day.

used to be with you on that Basti... but i have had the 1 shot behind a wall slowly ticking away my health happen twice in last 2 days. As well as an aim botter that literally decimated our entire platoon push last night.

[Saintlycow]

used to be with you on that Basti... but i have had the 1 shot behind a wall slowly ticking away my health happen twice in last 2 days. As well as an aim botter that literally decimated our entire platoon push last night.

I Used to give people the benefit of the doubt with lag issues and warping, but that 1 shot behind walls (or from inside the biolab shields to outside) is really annoying. I try to teabag hackers when I kill them, and get some hateful messages. Hacker tears *yum*:evil:

[Ritual]

Its worse today then it was yesterday.

Every day is getting a little worse. I have alot of people just blasting me from hilltops I can barely render with full auto burst fire. Not even LMG's they are using long distance carbines. Owning people from further distances then snipers lol.

Its kind of funny when it happens because the sound effects of all those bullets whizzing by with dead on accuracy from the horizon is like ROFL But then it makes me mad that none of them are getting banned. And if they are banned, nothing can stop them from making more accounts.

This game is turning into hackfest of the century. SOE is getting owned hard.

[Conq]

It's funny, I hadn't seen anything suspicious up until yesterday and then I saw three different speed hackers in an hour. At least with those people, you know they are hacking.

Lag switchers, meh... I'm sure people do it intentionally but it just happens sometimes. Your character looses sync, half of your bullets don't hit the target, half of your target's don't hit you and you get mad hate tells about warping around. Even with good internet that's happened to me a few times.

Aim bots, I wish I could tell. With the game being so big, it's all just assumption. The same guy killed me 20+ times in a row at a Bio lab, always at different places so I can only assume he was killing everyone else a zillion times as well. Tried to /report but his player name was invalid, tried to look them up on stats but their character wasn't listed.... shrug.

[Beerbeer]

Yeah, I haven't noticed anything overly suspicious until this weekend. I was a bit shocked as this guy was just blatant. I was going to team kill him, but lol, I would probably get banned first for griefing.

The word is definitely out.

[Bravix]

Its hard to tell who's hacking and who is just using the T9 Carv xD

Seriously, if you're gonna hack, that is the weapon to use. I get full-auto sniped all the time by that thing, so I doubt they're all hackers. Perfect disguise for aimbotting.

[TheDrone]

This game is turning into hackfest of the century. SOE is getting owned hard.

For crying out loud. That is just complete and utter hyperbole. No, it is not. You are grossly overreacting. It's incredibly childish and isn't helping anyone.

Just because I haven't seen a single incident of cheating in my dozens of hours of playing does not mean that there is not cheating.
Because you have seen a few instances of cheating, doesn't mean there is only cheating.


This isn't fanboyism, it's use of very simple and fundamental logic. I suggest you try it.

[Hamma]

I've got to admit even though this sucks, I haven't run into a situation where I've felt someone is hacking. Yet.

[Ritual]

I've got to admit even though this sucks, I haven't run into a situation where I've felt someone is hacking. Yet.

Bullshit. I see someone aimbotting or speedhacking every 30 minutes.

Maejipip is back tonight blatant aimbotting everyone.

Assist is still playing. Which plays in the same group as Maejipip. And some other Nado loser.

People I reported days ago! There are even alot of TR losers who are speedhacking and aimbotting I am ashamed to say. Goto any large battle and just watch Hamma you will see some ridiculous things and im not talking about all the warping lag. Just keep your head low because aimbots usually aim there :)

[Simokon]

anyone seen supercock on waterson yet today?

[Ritual]

anyone seen supercock on waterson yet today?

Seen him yesterday but not today, yet.

[Simokon]

Seen him yesterday but not today, yet.

Well lets hope we don't I am sure he got reported a million times yesterday.

[Beerbeer]

There should be a pop up box for the report function, with either a text box allowing us to type in why we're reporting, or multiple choice options: hacking, griefing, team killing, etc. this may allow Sony to concentrate on certain things better because right now, they have no idea why we report certain players.

[TermiGR]

There are otherer Players that use Wall-glitches at Eisa Tech. I saw Players glitch into the Wall. They can shoot everything from in there. I reported it asap.

[DirtyBird]

Briggs possibly has a few as well.
I've reported in game but I'm pretty sure there is nothing stopping them atm.
If there are meant to be measures to stop them its either not switched on yet or failing.

Simply telling people not to do the wrong thing is not an efficient deterrent.

[SgtMAD]

there are tons of in-game footage being posted by the damn hackers on You Tube,this shit is ridiculous.

I am sorry but SOE has their heads stuck up their collective asses,remember all the threads here where ppl were telling them that hackers would be out of control and they said it wouldn't be a problem?

well guess what, SOE was wrong AGAIN

they are all over the SOE forums deleting threads and posts about all this,which I guess is their answer to the hacking epidemic,just act like it isn't happening

[Ghoest9]

I had a guild mate who has been realy enjoying the game log off in disgust because hes seen multiple hackers over the last couple of days now.

This is going to bite SOE in the ass if they dont get on top of it and make public announcements after doing some mass bans.

[Ritual]

Smedley tweeted that they had people who's job it was to ban hackers and that they were banning them as they found them.

I tweeted him back, nice SOE propaganda. But it's bullshit.

Of the people I reported, not a single one has been banned yet. Even the most blatant one's. Going on a week now since I first started reporting.

[SGOniell]

there are tons of in-game footage being posted by the damn hackers on You Tube,this shit is ridiculous.

Saw some of the videos, certainly proof enough, it really ruins the game

[Beerbeer]

If their only countermeasure are GM's, then it will be a losing battle as they'll never be able to keep up.

There needs to be more deterrence, something that automatically scans, detects, whatever. At the very least it may deter some, which is better than trying to remove these people one person at a time.

[Saintlycow]

If you see an ally hacking, team kill him. After a while he might give up. Tell everyone to do the same. Because, in the end he's costing you xp by hogging kills

[Timealude]

Bullshit. I see someone aimbotting or speedhacking every 30 minutes.

Maejipip is back tonight blatant aimbotting everyone.

Assist is still playing. Which plays in the same group as Maejipip. And some other Nado loser.

People I reported days ago! There are even alot of TR losers who are speedhacking and aimbotting I am ashamed to say. Goto any large battle and just watch Hamma you will see some ridiculous things and im not talking about all the warping lag. Just keep your head low because aimbots usually aim there :)

im just wondering how you can tell people are aim botting and arent just a really good shot, i mean hell i have nailed head shots on people from pretty far away and got tells saying i was hacking....but thats just my personal experienced i havent seen anyone really hacking...

[Gortha]

It´s really a f u c k i n g JOKE that there is no GameMaster online on the Server who can quickly investigate in certain situations.

In any other MMO there are GMs who are watching the server.
There needs to be a /gm *text* command to quickly contact a Gamemaster.

[psychobilly]

While I've suspected many people of hacking, I've only done the /report a few times when I was absolutely sure.

One obvious sign is the 'snap' that happens when an aimbotter switches targets that are close together. The back'n'forth is very obvious.

I also try to use sound to give an idea of the number of bullets fired. When I see some guy at render distance with a gauss saw go -thug-thug-thug-dead I know I just took three headshots from an aimbotter.

Here is what I want from SOE: headshot statistics on death. I want to know when someone (non-sniper) got 100% headshots so they can be reported. Even point blank I don't get 100% headshots on full auto. This won't stop aimbots, but maybe it will change the aimbot curve to focus on bodyshots instead to avoid detection. It's not a solution, but it helps level the field a tiny bit.

I really hope SOE announces a ban wave very soon. The community really needs some reassurance that something is being done.

[Juryrig]

I tweeted him back, nice SOE propaganda.



Maybe start blanket-tweeting him with the names of the ones you've reported? Use the existing outfits/command structures to co-ordinate mass-spamming his twitter with 'name and shame' lists?

I'm too n00b to tell if I've been aimbotted or just shot by someone I never even registered (again) but seeing the various footage has left me questioning things. Which is sad - in the past when I've been headshotted several times in a row by a sniper whose position I couldn't pin down, I was impressed with his skill. Now....I'm not so sure.

That's disappointing.

[basti]

Maybe start blanket-tweeting him with the names of the ones you've reported? Use the existing outfits/command structures to co-ordinate mass-spamming his twitter with 'name and shame' lists?

I'm too n00b to tell if I've been aimbotted or just shot by someone I never even registered (again) but seeing the various footage has left me questioning things. Which is sad - in the past when I've been headshotted several times in a row by a sniper whose position I couldn't pin down, I was impressed with his skill. Now....I'm not so sure.

That's disappointing.

That wont help.


Im pretty sure SOE figured out something is off. Right now the only thing that would help is if something changes, or if they post up that stuff is about to change.

[VaderShake]

I have yet to see a hacker myself, some friends of mine have and reported them.

This is nothing new and an expected progression of any new game.....people will hack/cheat and get caught and ended. Just because it does not happen as fast as we like it does not mean it's not happening.

[maetijip]

There are no cheaters. Also, u mad OP?

[Fear The Amish]

There are no cheaters. Also, u mad OP?

lol welcome to the conversation

[Bags]

I've yet to run into any blatant hacking either.

Though I spend 90% of my time in a tank.

[Fujilives]

I've yet to run into any blatant hacking either.

Though I spend 90% of my time in a tank.

Hacking in PS2 is rampant, go to Youtube and type in planetside 2 aimbot, or planetside 2 speed hack and watch all the crazy videos.

Depends what server you are on, but on Matherson I haven't encountered a whole lot. Sure, I've encountered a few 'would-be' aim-botters, but there's no way to prove it and they could just be really (really) good, but beyond that nothing stood out.

However on another server (I forget which, but I have a Vanu there) I've seen MANY NC using a form of speed-hack. It's almost exclusively NC using it (took a couple screenshots of some of the guys warping around as best I could but wasn't recording), and when I asked the group of people with me what I just saw... they all agreed it was a speed hack and that the NC had been abusing them more and more on that server with several people saying they got "owned" by people using that hack the day prior. If you see a guy 'lagging' left and right rapidly appearing and disappearing about 6-feet each pop, that's just someone with a speed hack strafing left and right while they shoot you. I found this surprising.

Personally I think the hacking potential in the game right now is really crazy - if you have no intention of giving a crap about long-term play in this game, it's basically a hacker's wet-dream. The potential drama of everything and ability to just make a new account for free and near-infinite targets should make any hacker froth at the mouth. They really need to tie 'all' accounts (even the completely 'free' accounts) to credit cards so they have a finite-number of character creations. Sure, some people would get scraped off the top, but I'd think they would try to do this for thier own bottom-line as a tool to help reduce the inevitable chinese-cert-farmers that are bound to come (who will probably be selling characters online with 100000 certs for 30 dollars that they cheated to produce.)

P.S. Spending 90% of your game time in a tank is neglecting about 90% of the fun this game has to offer, go out and explore the world instead of sweating it out in your iron shell.

[Nathaniak]

Haven't seen a hacker on Miller yet. Maybe it's American 'rugged individualism'?

[Crator]

Had a TR player yesterday own the living shit out of me. I was dead very quickly anytime I ran into him. The times I did have eyes on him it seemed he would quickly strafe left to right and about a second later I was dead. Every time I ran into him. Is that an aim bot + speed hack? Or is the guys just really good at what he does? Never seen anyone do this except this TR guy.

[SpottyGekko]

Maybe there are heaps o' hackers, but I also believe there are heaps of bugs and server issues.

I regularly fly as Lib crew with a friend, and we fairly often have "unexplained" deaths, where we hear 2 or 3 impacts and then we suddenly explode. Killscreen shows 1 or mebbe 2 damage dealers with their combined % being below 50%. One instance last night there was only 1 damage dealer listed who did 23%, perhaps the other 77% was due to adverse weather...

Some of these can be explained by being rammed (intentionally or unintentionally), because those deaths often don't show the real cause on the killscreen.

I guess I could blame these seemingly strange deaths on hacking, but it's far more likely that it's a bug of some sort.

A bug like the "bleeding wound" damage on a Liberator, where you get into a permanently bugged state, taking constant damage every tick, except when you are inside the warpgate dome. The only cure is to destroy the Lib.

Or the bug where 2 people in squad both jump out to repair. The person who was gunner last jumps in first, ending up in the pilot seat. The Lib then 'twitches', insta-killing the squad member outside. Happened to us at least once an hour, until we started co-ordinating boarding via voice chat.

Last night we attacked a solitary AA turret on a base wall. He returned fire and we took evasive measures. But he kept hitting us, long after we had broken LoS. Was he hacking or were we still perfectly visible on HIS screen, even when he was out of sight from OUR viewpoint ?

How anyone can definitively categorise something they "see" on their screen as hacking is a bit of a puzzle to me. No doubt there are hackers, I'd be even more puzzled if there weren't any, but at this point things are still so shaky that it's hard to pinpoint the reason for some of the odd things I see ingame.

[ChipMHazard]

I haven't seen any blatant cheaters on Miller as of yet. I have run into some players who have an abnormal accuracy, reflexes and seem to be snapping. Hard to tell sometimes with the server issues and latency, also not all cheaters are all that obvious about using aim bots.

[LexDecon]

Had a cloaker yesterday pick me off at Vanu Archives three times while I was spawning inside the spawn room.

The First two I thought it was just a bug or I was lagging, the third time it was confirmed that it was neither because he picked me off then six of my outfit all standing inside the spawn room.

I moved out of the spawn room after spawning, and tested, I didnt go down, but the five guys that stayed in the spawn room all died. Same guy every time, we tested it multiple times. He was able to shoot people while they where in the spawn room.

[Fujilives]

Oh yeah, there is one more potential cheat I saw. The first couple days I spent on infiltrator since it seemed like a nice way to sort of "observe" how people played the game and educate myself on some class mechanics, and I saw a guy have the ability to perma-cloak.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, so does the "Hunter cloaking device" certification have this functionality when fully certed out? I was under the impression it only recharged faster when not in use after watching some youtube videos on it, but I could be mistaken.

There is only one person I've seen do this, though, obviously, it wouldn't be an easy thing to catch in general - but there was a cloaker on the 'rim' of one of the bio-domes. I pod-dropped directly behind him, and he was on my team so I didn't shoot. He cloaked and started making a run around the rim, I cloaked and followed (trying to stick together). My cloak wore off, and his was still on, I just assumed he had certifications to extend the duration of the cloak. When my cloak recharged all the way I triggered it again, and again my cloak eventually wore out and he was still cloaked... at this point I was like Jeeze, i gotta get those certs. After the third time I ended up dying (he was still cloaked running circles around the place) so I immediately looked into the cloaking certs only to find that no such extended-duration cloak cert existed...

[Ritual]

I ran into an aimbotting cloaker last night, who was firing on people while still cloaked.

He was standing in a corner where bad guys were running by and just picking us off one by one with instant rapid fire head shots from his little semi automatic sniper rifle.

IllusionRJ was his name. I called him a hacker and he logged. Lol.

[Crator]

^ Not aware of there being cloaks for infil class like that Fujilives. They plan on putting an infil cert or class that can perma-cloak but not in yet.

[Xaine]

Also seen people speed-hacking around.

Glad their anti-cheat system is working.

About the same as PS1 atm.

[Sirisian]

I have yet to see a single hacker myself. And im playing every day.
I thought I didn't see any, but there was this fight 3 days ago on Esamir where I was in a tank and we parked it in the middle of nowhere behind a building and were slowly taking damage so we got out. I started healing it while my friend tried to figure out where it was coming from. It was continuous and non-stop for like 30 seconds until I gave up healing and just stepped back and it exploded. There was no sound of it taking damage either. Thought maybe it was a bug, but since we don't know who killed the tank (we weren't in it) we were clueless as to what caused it. Could have been someone testing out an aim bot for a liberator tailgun or something based on the damage.

[DirtyBird]

Its going to be a slow, maybe pointless, process of removing them if they are just relying on people reporting them.

Not all reports are about people hacking.
Those suspected of breaking the naming convention are reported.
Suspected exploiters are reported.
Even fuckwits who spend the evening ramming and flipping aircraft in the warp gate are reported, like SpartanN10.

The current report system has no way to distinguish what is being reported.
Those SOE guys that Smeds tweeted about, who's purpose in life is to ban the bad guys, are not going to know wtf the report was for.

Smeds is basically admitting that's the only method they have atm, the reactive one.
It might even be claimed as a great success as the reports dry up because players cbf logging in because of the increasing hacking.

And lets not forget those that have exploited/hacked for the first two weeks to milk the lack of any detection and now cruise along like nothing has happened. Immune to any punishment as they have achieved their goal and now play on like the rest.

It was one of the biggest issues that worried players and SOE said they had it covered.
As yet, they don't.

[ChipMHazard]

I thought I didn't see any, but there was this fight 3 days ago on Esamir where I was in a tank and we parked it in the middle of nowhere behind a building and were slowly taking damage so we got out. I started healing it while my friend tried to figure out where it was coming from. It was continuous and non-stop for like 30 seconds until I gave up healing and just stepped back and it exploded. There was no sound of it taking damage either. Thought maybe it was a bug, but since we don't know who killed the tank (we weren't in it) we were clueless as to what caused it. Could have been someone testing out an aim bot for a liberator tailgun or something based on the damage.

I've had that happen to me on a number of occasions and there has never been any enemy around, that I could see, when it start happening.

[psychobilly]

There was no sound of it taking damage either. Thought maybe it was a bug, but since we don't know who killed the tank (we weren't in it) we were clueless as to what caused it. Could have been someone testing out an aim bot for a liberator tailgun or something based on the damage.

Sidenote: vehicle owners should get a message "X destroyed your vehicle" even when not in it.

[DirtyBird]

I've had vehicles lost without any message as to who destroyed it if I was out repairing it.
It should tell the owner.

There are times when you get no mention of the character that killed you in the death screen, just the weapon used.

[typhaon]

Ran into 2 blatant cheaters on Mattherson - Esamir, this morning.

Both were reported, noted by groups of people... yet 3 hours later (after I saw the first one) - they were still at it. Speed, Aim, etc..

Newly created chars.


The lack of admins to prioritize and deal with these issues in a timely manner is a problem.

[krnasaur]

ran into a speedhacking aimbotter, with a barcode name, spewing racial slurs in /yell chat, as if it wasnt obvious enough that he should get banned

[Ruffdog]

I found my first cheater on Miller yesterday. I refuse to call them "hackers".
I was fixing up some turrets at an Amp station, finished up and jumped down the lift atrium and some Vanu insta-killed me with a beamer pistol from fuck-knows where. No sound of weapons fired just me slumping to the ground.

Then same guy killed me again from about 300m - saw him this time - we're both on rooftops but on different facilities and again I'm behind cover. Insta-beamer-kill.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/267595208890408960


Surprises alright - for the legit players.

[typhaon]

Its going to be a slow, maybe pointless, process of removing them if they are just relying on people reporting them.

Not all reports are about people hacking.
Those suspected of breaking the naming convention are reported.
Suspected exploiters are reported.
Even fuckwits who spend the evening ramming and flipping aircraft in the warp gate are reported, like SpartanN10.

The current report system has no way to distinguish what is being reported.
Those SOE guys that Smeds tweeted about, who's purpose in life is to ban the bad guys, are not going to know wtf the report was for.

Smeds is basically admitting that's the only method they have atm, the reactive one.
It might even be claimed as a great success as the reports dry up because players cbf logging in because of the increasing hacking.

And lets not forget those that have exploited/hacked for the first two weeks to milk the lack of any detection and now cruise along like nothing has happened. Immune to any punishment as they have achieved their goal and now play on like the rest.

It was one of the biggest issues that worried players and SOE said they had it covered.
As yet, they don't.


There is no reason that should be the case.... aimbotting and other hacks must throw out some statistics that are nowhere near the norm and should set off alarms that could be investigated immediately.

[Timealude]

There is no reason that should be the case.... aimbotting and other hacks must throw out some statistics that are nowhere near the norm and should set off alarms that could be investigated immediately.

This...We already know they have systems that can track our accuracy so if you have 100% then its going to set off an alarm of some sort.

[DirtyBird]

I always thought that the dude with the high accuracy could always fire a shit load of magazines off at nothing to reduce that accuracy and silence those bells?

If it was someone that was stupid enough to get nothing but head shots each time they fired then yeah they'd stand out like dogs balls.

[Helwyr]

Encountered my first suspect cheater just a few moments ago. I found an Infiltrator Hacking a console with his back to me. All of sudden he turns around at hyper speed and shoots his Bolt Action at what appeared to me from the hip at the floor but it still was a headshot.

I still say suspect as I wonder if it might have just been server lag combined with a bit of luck on his part or something. Although there was no lag for me prior to this.

I also found the report function lacking, you just report a name, you can't give any details. Assuming this guy was cheating, could he not only resort to the hack only under certain circumstances? Obviously someone who always uses their aimbot and speed hacks would be an easy player to spot. However, if someone only uses it some of the time can they be so easily detected? Assuming he wasn't cheating wouldn't it be better to have a description of what happened that might indicate some other cause than cheating?

[Saintlycow]

They should wait until a hacker spends money, then ban him


Trolololololol

[Ruffdog]

Soe: resurrect the beta bug report and rename it douche report, oh ok cheat report. There was a perfectly fine interface to describe problems broken down into categories

[Hamma]

Pretty sure I saw a speedhacker last night. Just have to be consistent in reporting people.

In case you missed it:

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/275738278190280704

They have been banning them without question. There are Server admins, they aren't all seeing and all knowing and omnipresent so be sure to report people.

[Crator]

They have been banning them without question. There are Server admins, they aren't all seeing and all knowing and omnipresent so be sure to report people.

My issue is, sometimes, me not knowing for sure if they are hacking. I suppose if you just think someone is hacking you should report though. Just in case.

[Hamma]

Yea I'm sure there is some investigation that goes into it.

[Assist]

There are six people on the top 20 who I have seen hacking.

Waterson server:

Slash, Sulphur, Nado, Assist, Axaxin, Maetijip,

Plus a half dozen other regular players i see day to day aimbotting. And the speedhackers usually a few a day.

Awesome work SOE. Glad youre on top of it.

Just a heads up here Sinist, myself and Nado do not hack. I wouldn't even know where to start. Nado and I have been gaming together for years, we usually are duo in Planetside2 and are both vets of Planetside1. We play the game too much, but we don't hack. Also AFAIK, Axaxin doesn't either. He usually is issuing /orders to the VS to report hackers.

Sorry if you think we do, but some of the guys on these forums know me from in game.

edit: The ones on Waterson I've reported are the LLLLllllllllLLLLLLllllLLLLL guy, Maejitip, supercock, anycockwilldo, KellyQ, ott3r, victoriasomething... I've reported most of them a few hundred times. I still saw KellyQ and ott3r on last night, been nearly a week since I started reporting. There are no GM's on our server I'm fairly sure, no way they'd allow the same people to continue to obviously cheat and admit it in the /chats while they do it.

[Assist]

Assist no one on those forums will defend you.

Besides Nado who is your partner in crime.

There is one solid way of proving you aren't a hacker when someone accuses you. Go on Twitch and start a stream. Then maintain your K/D and kill pace and show that you are a solid player overall.

That goes for anyone being accused really. If you care about that sort of thing. I would.

lol, so this is a witch hunt? I'd stream if I knew how, but tbh I've never figured it out. I saw theres a youtube thing in-game, not sure I have hdd space for it on my ssd but maybe I'll try that.
/shrug
If you don't believe me whatever, you can ask my allies how often I shoot them in the ass. Think I may be in the lead for team kills for VS, certainly in the lead for magrider team kills.
I would love to know what we've done that marks me and Nado as cheaters.

As far as no one defending me, I'm not asking them to. I recognize a lot of these names and guilds from other games like DAoC, Forumfall, PS1, etc where I've played against them under various names. I don't think any of them know me under this name.

I got to say though, it'd be amusing to be the GM following me around. I think there'd be a lot of /facepalm going on.

[MrBloodworth]

Lets leave the witch hut to the professionals. please.

[Beerbeer]

They need to add a more detailed report function, by allowing us to right click report people from the chat window (for names that are hard to spell out) AND a text box that we can enter comments.

[Ritual]

Just a heads up here Sinist, myself and Nado do not hack. I wouldn't even know where to start. Nado and I have been gaming together for years, we usually are duo in Planetside2 and are both vets of Planetside1. We play the game too much, but we don't hack. Also AFAIK, Axaxin doesn't either. He usually is issuing /orders to the VS to report hackers.

Sorry if you think we do, but some of the guys on these forums know me from in game.

edit: The ones on Waterson I've reported are the LLLLllllllllLLLLLLllllLLLLL guy, Maejitip, supercock, anycockwilldo, KellyQ, ott3r, victoriasomething... I've reported most of them a few hundred times. I still saw KellyQ and ott3r on last night, been nearly a week since I started reporting. There are no GM's on our server I'm fairly sure, no way they'd allow the same people to continue to obviously cheat and admit it in the /chats while they do it.

You won't convince me. You can put up a Twitch stream though and show us your skills. Maintain your K/D and kill pace on stream, and show us you are a really good overall player.

I don't care if you played Planetside 1. That does not give you credibility. Especially if I have never heard of you.

You and Nado are cheaters, I have seen it with my own eyes in game. Its odd that I accused both of you, yet had no idea you were actually real life friends.

Coincidence, impossible.

I talked to Nado last night for awhile. He didn't really deny hacking. He knew who I was and why I was messaging him. He said you expected to be banned because of the accusations and you were going to quit and go play Darkfall. That supposedly is your favorite game anyways. That you didn't even like FPS games. Which explains why you use cheats.

But hey if you don't like the accusations, you know what you need to do.

I look forward to your excuses about why your computer and internet can't stream twitch.

Sulphur was kicked from DVS today because they caught him hacking, which was a person I accused. Maetijip is banned. Slash is next to be banned (Although DVS claims his stats come from stat padding by farming alt accounts and not aimbotting, which is funny because he sure aimbotted me). You and Nado will then be banned. And then Axaxin. That was my list.

There are others about to be added to the list.

I am still unsure about EvilMind and FoolyCoolant. They are very close in my opinion but I am biting my tongue for now because I rarely see them on the battlefield.

[MrBloodworth]

Ritual, STFU please.

You see someone hacking, you report them. This is not the IGN bords.

Back on topic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A817L26CYAA980J.jpg:large

[Ritual]

Ritual, STFU please.

You see someone hacking, you report them. This is not the IGN bords.

Back on topic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A817L26CYAA980J.jpg:large

Bloodworth, make me?

I can post what I like. Don't like it go cry. If Hamma wants to remove the thread he can, until then go to SOE boards if you want nanny forums where everything is censored to appease pussy tightwads like yourself.

[Assist]

Bloodworth, make me?

I can post what I like. Don't like it go cry. If Hamma wants to remove the thread he can, until then go to SOE boards if you want nanny forums where everything is censored to appease pussy tightwads like yourself.

You have some issues that has nothing to do with hackers it seems. I can be an ass sometimes but I was trying to be nice on these posts. The fact that you said you talked to Nado and he told you something about me yet you had no idea we were friends pretty much shows that you're making up everything. Also considering he was playing on Connery last night makes it even more unbelievable that he was talking to you.

Best of luck in PS2 Sinist, I hope one day you grow up.

[Hamma]

Please get back on topic, if someone is cheating /report so it can be investigated.

[Ritual]

You have some issues that has nothing to do with hackers it seems. I can be an ass sometimes but I was trying to be nice on these posts. The fact that you said you talked to Nado and he told you something about me yet you had no idea we were friends pretty much shows that you're making up everything. Also considering he was playing on Connery last night makes it even more unbelievable that he was talking to you.

Best of luck in PS2 Sinist, I hope one day you grow up.

Go ask Nado. Unlike you everything I say is true. My integrity is actually important. I obviously do not censor myself, what I say I mean. And lying is against my principals.

Why would I be nice to a fucking nazi great wall of china supporting ****** who wants us all to talk like sissies? And a loser video game cheater? I wouldn't. I would shit on them every chance I got until I or they was removed from the community. That's the type of person I am. I don't care if everyone didn't agree with me, or didn't like the way I posted. We wouldn't get along anyways. I am very Libertarian and if you aren't respectful of the rights to say someone is a cheating idiot, go end yourself and grow a pair and some thicker skin. Go study philosophy.

While I enjoy PSU, and the SOE boards, im not going to be nice all the time. I have already been banned from SOE boards once, im sure I will be banned again soon. Only sheep can't speak their minds. Im not a sheep.


go put your rainbow decal on.

[Hamma]

Please get back on topic, if someone is cheating /report so it can be investigated.

Last warning.

[Ailos]

I have yet to tun into blatant hackers on Mattherson, although I have personally received some hate-tells from VS crybaby snipers who thought I was aimbotting them, and were under the impression that cloaking somehow counteracts the bolt driver's head shot policy.

I'm sure that some of these hacking reports are legitimate, but having read through all 6 pages of this thread, I can't help but feel that most of the folks doing the complaining just can't reconcile their specific death situations with what they were able to see on the screen in a clusterfuck of a fight. I mean, I've been in similar situations, too, but after 2-3 deaths and not getting anywhere I generally relocate to somewhere I can make a difference. I mean, there's still a lot of server issues, and I'm pretty sure half of the reports about people teleporting is flat out server lag (something I witness frequently, and am accused of frequently simply because I tend to be near the largest of fights).

[DirtyBird]

The fact that the leader board and stats are currently not updating could be handy.
I'm looking at the various players who I think might be suspect and taking a screenshot of their current details.
When the stats page finally catches up we'll easily see who is still playing or who may have been busted.

I'll also be able to see those who continue with the status quo or those that dont.
Those that dont could be the ones who took advantage of fact there was little to no chance of them being caught in the first week. But have since backed off now the heat has picked up.

Generally the longer you play time wise, the better you become.
Your K/D for example will either increase or, stay about the same because others are improving as well.

If you dont have anyone you suspect is cheating then for this exercise you can just take a look at the current Top 100 leader board and screen shot it or drop it into a spreadsheet.
Now these guys should continue to follow the trend they have now or be very close to it.
Their time played/kills/deaths should all still average out to the same numbers that are up there.

I'd be very surprised to any of them vary by great deal but there might be one or two.
If you played 2 days and have 5000 kills then I'd expect to see roughly 10000 kills for 4 days played. 3 days played and 6000 kills then for 9 days I'd see 18000 kills.
Give or take a thousand just to be generous.

If you played for 2 days and have 5000 kills and when its updated you have 8 days played and you are now only 10000, I'd question why the discrepancy.
You've gone from about 100 kills per hour to about 50 per hour.
Suddenly you've gone from Mr Elite to Mr Average?


No concrete evidence of anything but I bet the numbers show a few surprises.

[Crator]

@DirtyBird What if the cheaters intentions are to raise awareness of the issue? Then they would just create a free account, cause some mayhem, delete the account, start again.

[SGOniell]

I agree with both sides to some degree here. I do feel the lack of the kill cam makes it easier to feel like you were killed by a hacker, but at the same time you can't rule out the possibility of it being a legitimate player who hit you from some weird angle somewhere. Happened to me last night a few times, found the guy and brought him down easy enough with no contest. The only thing to me that is indicative of hacking is actually seeing it or having loads of people experience the same thing during a small time frame. They are out there, but I haven't ran into any that are as prevalent as it is suggested. Could just be the times I play though, I'm usually on late at night and on US East Jaeger, no one there has been deemed worthy of a report from what I've personally seen.

[Goldeh]

I did.

I even started to use /yell hoping Admins are watching.

This has proven beyond a shadow of the doubt, no hackers are being detected. No admins are on the servers 24/7. They do not respond to /report or /yell or /re or anything else.

Opening up a support ticket could take days for a response.

This is a joke. I have played on public FPS servers for Counter Strike that were more policed then Planetside 2.

Generally speaking you'll have better luck twittering Smedly about hacks..He seems to respond well to them.

[Assist]

As an FYI, I was streaming on twitch yesterday, had a few people watch me play a bit when I was posting a 20:1 kdr. I offered for Sinist to watch twice but he never responded to my messages.
I may stream again today, under AssistVS in the evening EST. I hitch a lot though when I stream for some reason, yet my fps stays high.


On a side note - I didn't see as many hackers last night. I did see two that have been reported multiple times though.

[Ritual]

Assist I never received any messages from you.

Did you record the session to Twitch? If no then why not?

Go back to China or whatever basement you come from, and let's hope SOE bans you YESTERDAY.

[RSphil]

i havent seen anyone hacking yet but i agree this needs to be sorted out. SOE said they would have people online watching and people tracking stats to spot such bad actions and from the sound of it nothing is being done. this is very bad for SOE and for the game. if it gets a name for being hacked a lot no one will play and it will die like alot of other free to play games that have been hacked to death.

personally i think hackers need to get a life. if they cant play and have to cheat to be any good they should find something else they are good at like sleeping :P

[Assist]

Assist I never received any messages from you.

Did you record the session to Twitch? If no then why not?

Go back to China or whatever basement you come from, and let's hope SOE bans you YESTERDAY.

There is no in-game option for recording? I just made a twitch acct and used the in-game option to stream, had some people on here make sure it was setup right. Then I was streaming w/ Nado(tho you could only hear him not me for some reason) while we ran around on Esamir.
Check your messages tonight, I should be on later this evening. I sent you two tells last night and neither got a response. (Big surprise)

The real question is what are you going to do when you realize I'm not hacking and I'm just a vehicle whore who camps? At least I'm not a stereotypical racist child like yourself. I thought since you played PS1 you'd be a little more than a baddie, but apparently you accuse anyone who kills you as being a cheater then proceed to spout off about it like you're some sort of authority.

I think the truth is you're just a crybaby. You can't face the fact that you're not up to par in PS2. Instead of attempting to get better you look at the top 20 list of the server and label them as cheaters. My suggestions is to keep reporting me if you honestly think I cheat, because in the end the csr's will get it right. They'll remove the ones who are cheating(some have been already) and then the ones left standing will be the ones you can find some other reason to cry about. Maybe it will be ping, maybe it will be p2w comments. Either way I'm convinced you're going to just be one of those people who are never happy and always need to have something to blame your failings on.

[Ritual]

There is no in-game option for recording? I just made a twitch acct and used the in-game option to stream, had some people on here make sure it was setup right. Then I was streaming w/ Nado(tho you could only hear him not me for some reason) while we ran around on Esamir.
Check your messages tonight, I should be on later this evening. I sent you two tells last night and neither got a response. (Big surprise)

The real question is what are you going to do when you realize I'm not hacking and I'm just a vehicle whore who camps? At least I'm not a stereotypical racist child like yourself. I thought since you played PS1 you'd be a little more than a baddie, but apparently you accuse anyone who kills you as being a cheater then proceed to spout off about it like you're some sort of authority.

I think the truth is you're just a crybaby. You can't face the fact that you're not up to par in PS2. Instead of attempting to get better you look at the top 20 list of the server and label them as cheaters. My suggestions is to keep reporting me if you honestly think I cheat, because in the end the csr's will get it right. They'll remove the ones who are cheating(some have been already) and then the ones left standing will be the ones you can find some other reason to cry about. Maybe it will be ping, maybe it will be p2w comments. Either way I'm convinced you're going to just be one of those people who are never happy and always need to have something to blame your failings on.

You never sent me any tells.

I have your twitch in my follow list, and I look forward to seeing your infantry game.

I could care less if you stream you flying around in a Scythe rocket spamming. I want to see you shoot people with your rifle.

Because you aimbot.

I see you playing infantry a lot so that is what I want to see on stream. I look forward to your lackluster performance. Yes I am racist against cheaters. Yes I am racist against foreigners from cesspool country's playing on my servers who don't respect anything. They should go make their own video games and invent their own computers instead of using ours. They can't even enforce civility and IP laws why would we let them on our servers to hack, lag, and phish for people's account's, and send me spam email.

Fuck the Chinese, The Taiwanese, The Japanese, the Korean's, The Russians, The fucking Indians, and the goddamn Muslims, and the whole of Eastern Europe.

You should be ashamed at yourselves for how much your country's SUCK and how corrupted and despicable your cultural values are as a whole.

[MrBloodworth]

For the love of god, get a room. FFS.

[Ritual]

Oh and I almost forgot Africa. Ban all of them for being the world's biggest failure consistantly for the past 1000 years.

[Sturmhardt]

Ritual is a nice parody of himself :p

[DirtyBird]

What is Smeds referring to in this tweet?
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/276363209655590912
Is it a coded reference to a long lunch planned at Cap Hansens Tavern which is 24/7?

[Roderick]

I honestly thought the "hacking" claims were just blown out of proportion by players, but I finally saw it when an Outfit member stated that an enemy player in a base was hacking. When I chased the player who was clearly in front of me at the time, was then instantly behind me. I was then one hit killed [unknown if headshot or ROF hack], and then the player blinked away to wherever raking up more kills.

This does have me concerned seeing as we are just a month into this game. What will this game be like in a year with the hacking situation? Only time will tell.

[Crator]

^ No one believes hacking claims until they've seen it themselves. Or you know the person claiming the hacks are happening knows what they are talking about.

[Mooseay]

I haven't seen anything to be honest. I play on miller, does it have a rep for hackers?

[MasterskunkPS]

I want the dozen deaths from this ****** removed from my statistics [...]


:doh:
I'm deeply sorry for your loss of K/D ratio. :doh:

[Ritual]

Assist streamed for around 6 minutes today, but he stopped streaming because in his words "I was calling him a noob".

I suspect it was because he was getting owned by everyone he tried to fight, except for two people who didnt even shoot back (In the first ten seconds the stream went live lol *cough* alt accounts).

He refused to stream anymore.

He also had a person named fcutter or fcuddle on his voice comms. Wasn't he one of the hackers from beta?

Assist, Noda, can't be banned soon enough. He was making excuse after excuse after excuse, first denying that he was on voice comms even though I could hear him talking. Then denying who the people were.

Then he just kept sending me tells wondering why I cared so much about people hacking and that I should stop being so aggresive about it. I told him that just because he didn't think he would get caught and he might have spent station cash, does not excuse cheating.

I then told him to STFU and go play Darkfall and cheat there, and leave Planetside for the poeple that care about and enjoy the game.

(BTW supposedly 70% of the Darkfall playerbase downloads hacks to play the game). It is his self admitted favorite game. Make of that what you will.

[Assist]

So i killed Sinist near Allatum, he whined that I was cheating(owned by mag). Then he started whining in tells so I started a stream, he wasn't watching since he was crying to me about being killed by a sniper whom he claimed was hacking. So I turned it off after a few minutes, others here watched me stream and know I'm legit. He knows I wasn't hacking, I guess he's just trolling at this point. Hackers are like 300:1 k/d/r and I'm hovering around 4 lifetime.

I know some people are bad at this game, but like I said before I expected more out of the veteran PS1 community. Sinist claims he was #1 all time base captures and #6 all time kills in PS1, if that's true it puts into perspective for me what I thought was a solid PS1 community. The worst was he continued to send me tells for about an hour after I ended the stream and the ridiculous amount of racism and stereotyping he made.
For what he claims to be, he's a sad individual and it's no wonder that GM's and customer service reps don't take all the hackusations seriously when you have dipshits like Sinist whining, kicking, and screaming like a child about every single person who is better than them.

[Juryrig]

I haven't seen anything to be honest. I play on miller, does it have a rep for hackers?

There was a player in the NC warproom on MIller last night whose movements suggested he was using an aimbot (snapping from position to position).

I'm too crap at the game to know whethr I've ever been on the receiving end of anyone using a cheat, though - it's just another death for me, one among the myriad :)

I've seen a couple of people who might have been cheating, or might have been lagging. I prefer not to jump to conclusions.

I did get reported for griefing, though! My drop-pod took out a friendly Lib, killing myself and the two occupants. Which is what I get for drinking tea and shovelling down toast whilst it's descending instead of trying to steer the damned thing properly.

One of the Lib passengers immediately reported me for deliberate griefing. And he and his buddy both TK'd me, one of them twice.

I lol'd :D

[Crator]

One of the Lib passengers immediately reported me for deliberate griefing. And he and his buddy both TK'd me, one of them twice.

I lol'd :D

That's ridiculous. Griefing means someone is actively killing someone, typically with guns, over and over again. Who reports griefers anyways? Does SOE even do anything with that? There's a grief system in place to handle this issue.

[Ritual]

So i killed Sinist near Allatum, he whined that I was cheating(owned by mag). Then he started whining in tells so I started a stream, he wasn't watching since he was crying to me about being killed by a sniper whom he claimed was hacking. So I turned it off after a few minutes, others here watched me stream and know I'm legit. He knows I wasn't hacking, I guess he's just trolling at this point. Hackers are like 300:1 k/d/r and I'm hovering around 4 lifetime.

I know some people are bad at this game, but like I said before I expected more out of the veteran PS1 community. Sinist claims he was #1 all time base captures and #6 all time kills in PS1, if that's true it puts into perspective for me what I thought was a solid PS1 community. The worst was he continued to send me tells for about an hour after I ended the stream and the ridiculous amount of racism and stereotyping he made.
For what he claims to be, he's a sad individual and it's no wonder that GM's and customer service reps don't take all the hackusations seriously when you have dipshits like Sinist whining, kicking, and screaming like a child about every single person who is better than them.

Noone here has watched you stream besides your hacking buddy perhaps. Noone here knows you or plays with you.

I seen you in game so I sent you a tell to see if you would stream and to make fun of you.

I was watching the entire time you had the stream up. I was also typing in twitch chat which you never responded. Simultaneously because I have two computers, I was sending you tells in game telling you how much you sucked which apparanetly hurt your feelings which gave you a excuse to shut off the stream.

In the 6 minutes you streamed your k/d was .6

Your twitch view history says that I was the only viewer to the channel all time besides 4 other views, and the only follower.

My PS1 stats don't lie btw I was pretty good at that game. I'm not claiming I am the best PS2 player, i'm not. I actually suck pretty bad right now and die a shit ton. But I do have integrity and of the 3000 times I have died, I have only reported maybe twenty - thirty people. And of those 30 people, they were ALL hackers like you UNDENIABLY.

I care about this game and I will have last laugh when you are banned. According to your friend, you expect it. And are going to go back to playing the new Darkfall probably as soon as your hacks get updated for it. I'm not sure why you are trying to defend yourself. I know the reason for that. You spent station cash not thinking you would be noticed and now you are trying to save your account. I wouldn't be surprised either if you disabled your aimbot and instead are just using your radar hacks to try and appear more normal. But knowing the type of person you are, it won't be for long. You will have to compensate soon enough for your no skills.

[duomaxwl]

The only hack that I'm really sure I've seen is a dude with double health bars as a light assault.

[Oroshi]

Not sure if they are taking the approach CCP use, collected as much data as they can on the hacks, then do a mass ban, else if you ban on a one by one bases the Hackers will just migrate onto a new hack, and they will not have the date to put a stop to it. It would make sense if that is what they are doing.

[Crefakis]

Jesus Christ Ritual let it go, out of the two of you I want to side with Assist because you just won't stop whining. Let SoE sort the hackers out and just leave it alone, my GOD.

Hamma already told you to leave it alone but you just keep coming back to make a fool of yourself.

Back on topic, I have reported around 12 players on Ceres EU so far and I'm glad to say that the first two I did have not been seen for about 4 days, do maybe they are making progress.

[Simokon]

Sinist should be banned because he killed my magrider with an ESF last night, what a jerk :)

[Ritual]

Jesus Christ Ritual let it go, out of the two of you I want to side with Assist because you just won't stop whining. Let SoE sort the hackers out and just leave it alone, my GOD.

Hamma already told you to leave it alone but you just keep coming back to make a fool of yourself.

Back on topic, I have reported around 12 players on Ceres EU so far and I'm glad to say that the first two I did have not been seen for about 4 days, do maybe they are making progress.

Eat a dick?

He is a cheating loser. Im not going to "let it go".

Cheaters ruin PC games for me. I will piss on their graves and their existance so as long as they are here among us.

If you or PSU doesn't like it, BAN ME or petition to have me banned.

Else shut the fuck up and go read some other threads.

[ShadetheDruid]

I'd love to see you banned just for being a racist arsehole. And i'm sure you'd find a way to spin that into some conspiracy about being banned for outing "hackers".

[Juryrig]

being a racist arsehole

That's what got him added to my /ignore list... after I checked the forum rules and was dismayed to find there is actually no statement that racism is not allowed, except in the specific case of fanfiction. Otherwise I'd have reported the thread rather than just ignoring him.

[Ritual]

That's what got him added to my /ignore list... after I checked the forum rules and was dismayed to find there is actually no statement that racism is not allowed, except in the specific case of fanfiction. Otherwise I'd have reported the thread rather than just ignoring him.

Did you know im a cracker? I dont know what a cracker is, just that its supposed to be a racist term for white people.

When I hear the word cracker do you know how offended I get? NOT AT ALL.

I think in my head "Crackers are good, especially Saltines those things you can never eat just one". And those little crackers you get with chowder, god I could eat those as my entire meal.


So yeah, Racism MEH WHATEVER.

[Miir]

I see someone hacking almost every day this past week. Mostly speed hackers. I encountered my first aimbot on Thursday evening.

It's pretty sad.

[Scarr]

Sinist dude is wack. I killed him a few times a couple weeks ago and he starting raging at me in tells. Dude has issues in RL and it spills over on these forums and in the game for sure!

Glad to see him banned here, but honestly I think he maybe a hacker himself, using the massive blame game to gain sympathy and distract others from looking into him.

Very rarely do people get the drop on me, I play VERY defensively. I am not one to run through the door first, I usually sit in corners and shoot aggressive players in the back as they run past me.

Sinist however, always seems to know which way to come at me so that he shoots ME in the back. I think he hacks, which is why is rages so hard when he dies.

[KesTro]

You people really are overreacting. Does it suck sure, does it happen 24/7? No. My question to you would be if you play so often that you're in a position to witness the brunt of their hackery?

[Gatekeeper]

I play very regularly on Cobalt and I've never seen anyone I could be sure was cheating.

Like everyone I sometimes get killed by people who I was sure I had the drop on, or who suddenly lag/jump behind me or who headshot me from crazy range - but all of those things could just be lag/bugs or a lot of skill. Hard to say.

Someone mentioned earlier having their tank take a lot of damage from nowhere obvious, with no sound. I've also seen that a couple of times - but I just assumed it was a Lib firing at me from high up. Could be a bug or cheat though I guess.

The only thing I've seen that was definitely dodgy was people near Crossroads Watchtower stuck inside rocks so they couldn't be shot back, but firing out and hitting people, but I've only seen that once.

[OCNSethy]

Well, it looks like Smed has his ban hammer swinging...


buh bye. thanks for playing. bunch of aimbots crashing like crazy now #Ihatecheaters

— John Smedley (@j_smedley)

January 25, 2013


our CS guys are banning the crap out of a whole bunch of idiots. Including two guys with 300 hours of playtime. one guy who spent $230

— John Smedley (@j_smedley)

January 25, 2013

[Baneblade]

I suck so much I wouldn't even know if it was a hacker that killed me. I've had quite a few deaths that seemed odd, but it isn't always easy to tell what actually happened.

[Stellarthief]

This thread was very entertaining.

[Tatwi]

I suck so much I wouldn't even know if it was a hacker that killed me. I've had quite a few deaths that seemed odd, but it isn't always easy to tell what actually happened.

And the opposite side of that: I sometimes amaze myself with moments of pure awesome, where I kill four or five guys in the same 10 seconds and I'm like, "WTF? I must be aimbotting, because I'm not that good!". And then I go back to my usual failypants for the rest of the play session, as can clearly be seen by my outstanding KDR. :)

I think hit detection gets messed up some times. I've seen times where I wasn't headshot or where I didn't headshot the other guy, but the person who was killed dropped dead damned near instantly. This is probably lag.

There have been times that I've been killed where I figured the person was hacking, because they seemed to have ESP and headshot mastery, but at the same time they could have been having their moment of awesome for the day. On the other hand, I am positive that I have seen disco-boxers (http://compnetworking.about.com/od/consumerelectronicsnetworks/f/lag_switches.htm) in the game, you know, those people who zip all over the screen the moment they are in trouble... I haven't logged in lately so I have not seen any of the teleport hackers in action; I am not a masochist. In the end, I can't say for certain that I have seen a hacker while I was playing the game.

I have seen a lot of their youtube videos though (and reported each one). /sigh