Will you be able to Kamikaze in the 1-man crafts??

[LiquidThunder]

One of my favorite things to do in any game w/ vehicles like this (namely BF and Tribes 2) is use my one-man craft as a kamikaze vehicle. That is, drive it full on into a pack of enemies or and enemy vehicle with the purpose of inflicting great damage or destruction at the cost of my own life.

It's so frustrating to me when there isn't much damage done by purposefully crashing your vehicle. EG in BF, it sucks that you don't nearly destroy an enemy tank by runing a jeep into it.



I hope that this game will give me the opportunity to take one for the team by flying my Mosquito or my reaver into a bank of MAX armors or an enemy tank. Dying with honor and courage rules.

-LT

[Deadlock]

i think i remember them saying that kamakazis wouldnt be effective with skeeters reavers or galaxies. but they also said that a fully charged ant makes a really big boom, so maybe some bombing of a loaded ant from a galaxy would work.

[LiquidThunder]

omg that would be so freaking cool, that'd be like a nuke lol! can you really put an ant into a galaxy cargo bay? that would be freaking awesome, i would love to drive a fully loaded ant out of the galaxy bay at highspeed over an enemy convoy or base

-LT

[Deadlock]

yeah, itll fit... kinda ironic though, the other team would have to shoot u to kill themselves..... but again, its praticalness is all speculation


ohyeah, ant has none of this highspeed u speak off... it would be a slow creeping death

[euth]

To me you seem a bit odd, But hey if that's what you are in the game for, That is your choice ( <3 ) Anyway to answer your frustration about driving a jeep into an enemy tank, is that The jeep is less armored than the tank so It does create damage to the jeep, but if They are both full AP than yes the jeep will start to smoke and then blow.

[Ouroboros]

It's been stated by the devs that once you exit a vehicle it's physics turn off. Such as, once you exit a reaver on a course to ram an AMS, the reaver would not continue on its path, instead it would just drop like you. I doubt you will be able to kamikaze and still live through it.

Edit:
Oops, just realized you said you wanted to die, then, by all means, go for it. :D

[Ginzue]

Thats a great idea :lol:.... "Look! Run! ANT incomming!" BOOOM

[Alias]

Probably wouldn't have to "run" exactly.

Anyways, yeah. I had the mental image of a ANT zooming over a hill and blasting into a wall of enemy MAX Armors, Tanks, etc. Then someone said they don't go fast and I was like, oh yeah. So I had the picture of it inching over the hill and slowly rolling into a MAX only to go "Thud" then them shooting out the driver, hacking the ANT and recharging their base with it. � �

[Warborn]

ANTs aren't exactly terribly fast or durable vehicles. You're going to have trouble getting close enough to people to get them caught in the blast radius.

As for the entire idea of suicide killing, it's an extremely skill-devoid way of inflicting casualties on the enemy, so it doesn't work very well at all.

[Deadlock]

when i said drop it out of a galaxy i ment right over a base, it wouldnt have to drive anywhere if u get good at aiming. all it would have to worry about is it making it to the ground before gettin blown to hell

[Alias]

Vehicles have Kinetic Dampeners, so I don't think it would blow up. At least, I believe they have kinetic dampeners after that one screenshot of a ANT? being dropped from a Galaxy on a Warpgate.

[BeoWulf]

well if you cant kamikazi theres always the fact that you can run over enemies! That brings such good memories back to me.....like tribes, and the fighter. :twisted:

[Ginzue]

well when it hits the ground then it would have the sh!t blown out of it.

[Deadlock]

yeah, there's the irony of the plan, they'd bring the pain on themselves by shooting it.

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Deadlock
yeah, there's the irony of the plan, they'd bring the pain on themselves by shooting it.

How stupid do you think people are? After maybe the first or second time of blowing themselves up by shooting it, they'd make sure they move back before doing anything. That aside, something tells me the explosion isn't as big as you'd like it to be.

[Irnbru]

damn, some ppl take this type of thing way too seriously :p


suicide runs can be fun at times, but imo they get kinda boring ... only so many ways that you can die in a vehicle

[Warborn]

damn, some ppl take this type of thing way too seriously :p

If you were referring to me, I agree. Stop taking me so seriously.

[Irnbru]

i mentioned no names, but you guessed it! ;)


anywayz, any no-talent ass clown can try to suicide like this, but only the good ones would do a decent amount of damage, and i think that takes some skill

[Matuse]

EG in BF, it sucks that you don't nearly destroy an enemy tank by runing a jeep into it.

Running a jeep into a Leopard or Tiger tank, I'd be amazed if you scratched the paint, nevermind inflicted noticeable damage.

1 ton jeep hits 30 ton steel ingot, and tank is not destroyed...go figure.

[McBearclaw]

Matuse, you get an award for the best use of the word "ingot" ever.

And yeah, tanks are pretty invulnerable to cars. Anyone see the video of the guy who went on a rampage with a tank in... LA, I think? He rolled over cars without a second thought. Not exactly the same, but...

[2coasts]

I'll bet you can kami and kill, but it wont earn you any BEP's.

[Meow]

kamikazy vehicles in t2? i can imagine doing some sort of significant damage in bf, but in t2...hell no.

[Meow]

btw liquid...i think Al-Quada is accepting applications. If you are interested in dying with honor and courage, i'm sure you'll find a home there

[Jbaz]

Originally posted by Meow
kamikazy vehicles in t2? i can imagine doing some sort of significant damage in bf, but in t2...hell no.

You're saying you've never crashed into a helpless heavy armor from behind with a shrike! Sorry to hear that... *thinks back* man, I miss T2

(At first it gonna say "rammed a heavy from behind with a shrike" then I realized... nevermind:eek: )

[Deadlock]

How stupid do you think people are? After maybe the first or second time of blowing themselves up by shooting it, they'd make sure they move back before doing anything. That aside, something tells me the explosion isn't as big as you'd like it to be.

everyone has their momments, im willin to bet that someone in that base would be dumb enough to launch a rocket right up that ant's ass

and if all else fails and they wont shoot, run the bastards over if u can catch them... but besides that, i had already said this was speculation, im just basing it on an interview i read on psu were a guy said that ants make a big boom when they're full.:o

[OmnipotentKiwi]

With the vehicle timers and all, I think people would much rather use the vehicle then try to kamikaze.

[TRscpd]

well if your in a ANT falling from a drop ship then its jet well kick in after some time falled but cant you drop a ANT then get out of ANT so. the ANT falls and blows up but you live and drop in there base :P

[NeoDrgnMech]

Originally posted by Deadlock
everyone has their momments, im willin to bet that someone in that base would be dumb enough to launch a rocket right up that ant's ass

and if all else fails and they wont shoot, run the bastards over if u can catch them... but besides that, i had already said this was speculation, im just basing it on an interview i read on psu were a guy said that ants make a big boom when they're full.:o

Well, if the enemy stops firing at your loaded ANT, you could always just have someone in your squad sneak up and fire a rocket up your ass...:p

[Deadlock]

this works too :D

of course i dont really wanna be kamakazi'ing in the first place, i was just offerin this guy a fix for his need to commit suicide in games

[2coasts]

"but cant you drop a ANT then get out of ANT so the ANT falls and blows up but you live and drop in there base :P"

this is a great idea. when you exit a vehicle its physics drop away so we can assume it would fall, except that you can only parachute when u drop out of a flying vehicle, so you woud die too...

[TRscpd]

but still it would be fun to drop it.. its like INC ANT RUN!! like a small nuke :P BOOOOOM! killed 5 ppl :)

[2coasts]

they augta just include nukes, maybe each empire gets 1 per week, extremely hard to transport and use, but very fun :)

[kid klash]

load up a galaxy with explosives and make them barney-style vanu's go boom.

[Deadlock]

except that you can only parachute when u drop out of a flying vehicle, so you woud die too...

i thought they kicked in if u fell from above a certain height. so u could jump off of building roofs and still be ok, i could be wrong though.

[Sando138]

KDs kick in afteryou fall like 15 feet or so, so you can fall out of a galaxy and live, but not out of a low flying vehicle, but they probably don't stop damage 100% until like 30ft.

[NeoTassadar]

Been mentioning high alt. ANT drops (for bombing purposes) off and on for a while. The devs said you have to be very careful (= it's unstable), so if vehicles DO have Kinetic Dampeners, which is news to me, it's a simple matter to ram the nearest wall (near enemies, of course). Take them by surprise, too. Last thing anyone not on this forum would expect. :D

[LiquidThunder]

Originally posted by Matuse
Running a jeep into a Leopard or Tiger tank, I'd be amazed if you scratched the paint, nevermind inflicted noticeable damage.

1 ton jeep hits 30 ton steel ingot, and tank is not destroyed...go figure.



Basic physics. Calculate the sheer momentum involved in a 1 ton object travelling at 45 mph added to the momentum of a 30 ton tank going at 20 mph both AT eachother. sure the jeep's structure might as well be tissuepaper, but combined with the explosion of the engine, you have a ridiculous ammount of force involved there.

Drive a wrangler full speed into a tank and see what happens.

-LT

[Matuse]

If you are going to be the champion of basic physics, then it would probably be beneficial to know about them wouldn't it? No difference between the 45 mph jeep hitting the tank at 40mph, 20mph or not moving at all. At least, from a momentum and force point of view (that would be the basic physics you speak of) in the real world, the moving tank makes the passengers of the jeep far less likely to survive, because the tank would proceed to run over them.

If "basic physics" could account for something as complex as a vehicle impact, why is it exactly that we have crash tests, crash test dummies, multi-million dollar test facilities for determining what the result of an impact is?

That doesn't change what happens when the mostly hollow, primarily aluminum jeep hits the almost entirely solid, mostly steel tank that outweighs it by a factor of 30 (and by as much as a factor of 70, these days). I've seen what happens when vehicles run into tanks. The vehicle becomes tinfoil, and the tank barely even gets jolted.

The gas tank exploding is simply a laughable joke. The supreme accuracy of Hollywood notwithstanding, passenger vehicles do not spontaneously erupt into fireballs whenever they get looked at crosseyed. Military vehicles, in the anticipation of receiving more deliberate and far rougher treatment, are actually much LESS likely to have this happen, particularly with as mundane a cause as a frontal impact at moderate speed.

[2coasts]

are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?


how about it punk?
ill supply the jeep, you get the tank

[2coasts]

one of the new screenshots has a pic of the ANT exploding:

http://planetside.station.sony.com/screenshots/TR_ANT_Explosion.jpg

[Warborn]

A jeep wouldn't do much to a think if it impacted. The hull of a tank is durable enough to withstand an explosive projectile with a far small surface area, but far more kinetic energy, being launched at it. Much of the time said projectiles break apart on the tank's armor. So if you think a jeep, with far less force behind it and a much greater size (ergo less penetrating power) is going to take out a tank, you've got another thing coming.

[Led]

Running people down with the bomber in T2 was fun! :angel:

I even got a few people with the havoc once :D