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Soothsayer
2012-12-16, 12:29 AM
Seems like we're not really seeing the depth of customization that I thought we'd be able to do.

The offerings seem to be really minor variations on each empires theme without really getting too far away from the standard look.

Cust-oh-my-zah-shun was promised way back but it never really came through. I was hoping to be able to have enough possible combinations that you could kit yourself out to have a unique look, either personally or as an outfit "uniform".

As it stands that's not really possible.

As a general disclaimer, I don't have performance issues, I don't have trouble running the game, I don't get a whole lot of ctd's. The people who would be tasked with doing this are not the people who are responsible for other key game systems, so the argument about limited resources at SOE doesn't seem applicable, et cetera.

LoliLoveFart
2012-12-16, 12:41 AM
Hopefully it comes in the new year, i am all for new shiny things.
However, deeper meta and some general capture mechanic tweaking comes first in my eyes. Also a 4th continent so we can get rid of this fucking factions sitting on their own continent.

bpostal
2012-12-16, 12:46 AM
Hopefully it comes in the new year, i am all for new shiny things.
However, deeper meta and some general capture mechanic tweaking comes first in my eyes. Also a 4th continent so we can get rid of this fucking factions sitting on their own continent.

Yep, some of this. Not to say that customization isn't a real issue, more shiny is good shiny IMO. I too, am still waiting for outfit camos and whatnot. Also, is it just me or are there no zebra camos?

Bags
2012-12-16, 05:12 AM
Pretty much any visual complaint was explained away by tray saying that. Funny that it didn't happen at all.

Crator
2012-12-16, 09:02 AM
For the cosmetics, I believe this to be a marketing strategy. Offer some customizations now, throw a few discount weekends and special offers until more buy them, then add more into the shop later. Rinse and repeat.

Redshift
2012-12-16, 09:19 AM
what you're not happy with 30 different helmets that all look identical being sold for £5 a pop?

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 09:33 AM
personally, I'd love to see some of the Rexo suits that T.Ray promised. hopefully early next year

My question is, since there are four versions of them...

http://wiki.planetsidesyndicate.com/images/5/54/NCRexoArmors.jpg
http://wiki.planetsidesyndicate.com/images/e/ec/TRRexoArmors2.jpg
http://wiki.planetsidesyndicate.com/images/7/7c/VS_Rexos.jpg

I'm assuming that they're just going to make the BR25 versions? I mean, who would choose the "lesser" versions :P? Only the NC has a notable difference between BR14 and 25 to warrant two different designs

Figment
2012-12-16, 10:19 AM
I'm assuming that they're just going to make the BR25 versions?

NC BR20 will be the most popular cosmetic suit of all.


Dude. Completely covered in gold.


So pimp. Then we went dark and brooding with BR25. :(

Sturmhardt
2012-12-16, 10:22 AM
I finally want helmets that look good. What we have right now... I don't know, all the helmets just suck. I want helmets I see in the commercials and shit, I know that they are there but we can't buy them and that sucks. I don't want a fucking skull.

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 10:36 AM
I finally want helmets that look good. What we have right now... I don't know, all the helmets just suck. I want helmets I see in the commercials and shit, I know that they are there but we can't buy them and that sucks. I don't want a fucking skull.

you mean this?
http://i.imgur.com/nyQMA.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/vid/thumbnails/2012/07/25/0fa23c4a338450bf98770804de5408dd-1343238793/frame_0000.jpg

I want it too, but it seems that will only come with the Rexo update

it also surprises me that they'd advertise that one particular soldier all over and not even put him in the game, he's even on a wallpaper

http://i.imgur.com/mMBRw.jpg

Deadeye
2012-12-16, 11:27 AM
Hate to burst your bubbles, guys, but have you looked at the composite helmets for NC heavy and Engineer. Yeah, that's the helmet from the movie; so....yeah....it's in the game.

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 11:35 AM
Hate to burst your bubbles, guys, but have you looked at the composite helmets for NC heavy and Engineer. Yeah, that's the helmet from the movie; so....yeah....it's in the game.

could you post a picture? i can't log in the game atm

#edit

Do you mean these?
http://i.imgur.com/IM7PM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5YCaj.jpg

Not exactly the same as what I posted, are they?

Sturmhardt
2012-12-16, 12:06 PM
you mean this?
http://i.imgur.com/nyQMA.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/vid/thumbnails/2012/07/25/0fa23c4a338450bf98770804de5408dd-1343238793/frame_0000.jpg

I want it too, but it seems that will only come with the Rexo update

it also surprises me that they'd advertise that one particular soldier all over and not even put him in the game, he's even on a wallpaper

http://i.imgur.com/mMBRw.jpg

Yes, I mean this one. It looks awesome and I want to buy it... but I cant :/
This one is NOT in the game yet. Btw, have you guys seen the new ridiculous bike helmets (apex)? Man, they are ugly and cost 750 SC :doh:

Deadeye
2012-12-16, 12:56 PM
could you post a picture? i can't log in the game atm

#edit

Do you mean these?
http://i.imgur.com/IM7PM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5YCaj.jpg

Not exactly the same as what I posted, are they?

That looks like the engineer and medic composite helmets. While I will admit they're not exactly the same, they aren't terrible and they are a hell of a lot better than the default helmets that make you look like agent smith in a helmet.

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 12:59 PM
That looks like the engineer and medic composite helmets. While I will admit they're not exactly the same, they aren't terrible and they are a hell of a lot better than the default helmets that make you look like agent smith in a helmet.

Nah, those are HA helmets

here is the full list for all factions/classes

http://imgur.com/a/LkCwo#133

I prefer the helmet in the ads, as it reminds me of the Rexo armour, but yeah anything is better than an open face

Sturmhardt
2012-12-16, 01:08 PM
That looks like the engineer and medic composite helmets. While I will admit they're not exactly the same, they aren't terrible and they are a hell of a lot better than the default helmets that make you look like agent smith in a helmet.

Yes they are terrible and they don't really look any different than the standard helmets except you see less from the face, but the style is the same.

Here are all HA NC helmets:

http://i.imgur.com/l6cU4.png

I think the skulls don't fit into the PS2 world (why would a space army that otherwise has nothing to do with skulls, use skulls as helmets? It's a terrible design decision). The other two helmets look pretty much the same, no reason to buy them. Tray spends too much time on his on clothes, he better dedicate mor time to his real work :rolleyes:

Edit: The only decent looking helmets are the MAX helmets with the orange visor, because they look a little bit different from the rest. All other helmets look basically the same.

http://i.imgur.com/c4OBv.png

Btw, the new helmets for 750SC look like some sort of bike or construction helmets...

Deadeye
2012-12-16, 02:37 PM
Nah, those are HA helmets

here is the full list for all factions/classes

http://imgur.com/a/LkCwo#133

I prefer the helmet in the ads, as it reminds me of the Rexo armour, but yeah anything is better than an open face

My mistake, the engineer composite helmet looks similar to the heavy and that second one does look similar to the medic composite helmet. But I guess we can chalk that up to most things in the game looking similar.

Yes they are terrible and they don't really look any different than the standard helmets except you see less from the face, but the style is the same.

Here are all HA NC helmets:

http://i.imgur.com/l6cU4.png

I think the skulls don't fit into the PS2 world (why would a space army that otherwise has nothing to do with skulls, use skulls as helmets? It's a terrible design decision). The other two helmets look pretty much the same, no reason to buy them. Tray spends too much time on his on clothes, he better dedicate mor time to his real work :rolleyes:

Edit: The only decent looking helmets are the MAX helmets with the orange visor, because they look a little bit different from the rest. All other helmets look basically the same.

http://i.imgur.com/c4OBv.png

Btw, the new helmets for 750SC look like some sort of bike or construction helmets...

I can agree the skull ones are terrible; guess they're for the "kool kids" but I would never buy them. As for the composite helmets, I like them and can live with them till someone gets off their butt to get us the pre-rendered helmet. And yes, those illuminated or whatever helmets do look like the team fortress 2 engineer's helmet.

The composite armors are pretty good, I think or at least much better than nothing and they change with your camo so that's ok. I only bought that for medic, engineer and Max so far (guess i have a thing for shoulderpads when going to war.)

Remember guys, they'll come out with more stuff eventually. It takes time to design, build and test an armor look. Personally, I'm waiting for the tracked sunderer wheels. There's a pic floating around and it looks pretty cool.

Phantomdestiny
2012-12-16, 02:46 PM
well i know this was suppose to be official concept art for planetside 2 for the TR so we might get stuff like this . please give me for the infiltrator :3

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/209/d/b/planetside_2_pre_viz__terran_republic_gear_by_ukit akumuki-d58wl8q.jpg

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 02:49 PM
well i know this was suppose to be official concept art for planetside 2 for the TR so we might get stuff like this . please give me for the infiltrator :3

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/209/d/b/planetside_2_pre_viz__terran_republic_gear_by_ukit akumuki-d58wl8q.jpg

Nah. this was concept art done by one of several contractors that SOE hired to create (at least that's how I remember it)

they went with what we have now, at least for armour.

That one feels too... modern

Phantomdestiny
2012-12-16, 02:55 PM
Nah. this was concept art done by one of several contractors that SOE hired to create (at least that's how I remember it)

they went with what we have now, at least for armour.

That one feels too... modern

oh yes ; you are probably right on that one . But i would be surprised if they didn't re use the design philosophy for the helmet . At least for the infiltrator . Also we know that SMG's will be in the next patch for the infiltrator so why not "recon" skins for the infil

EisenKreutzer
2012-12-16, 03:04 PM
I think the new Apex helmets look a bit wonky. Like they were sort of inexpertly glued on top of the existing helmets.

Phantomdestiny
2012-12-16, 03:11 PM
I think the new Apex helmets look a bit wonky. Like they were sort of inexpertly glued on top of the existing helmets.

i doubt the apex helmets will sell very well

Infernalis
2012-12-16, 03:22 PM
I wish everything was as good as the concept art... Now we have ugly helmets, camo and bland weapons.

MercDT
2012-12-16, 03:24 PM
I'm really disappointed with the Apex helmets. They took a hard hat, slapped it on the composite helms and called it day... it just looks completely crappy. Same thing goes with the skull helmets.

If they ever properly bring back the PS1 REXO armor then I'll be over it since I would prefer that much over the current NC scrap armor theme.

Phantomdestiny
2012-12-16, 03:30 PM
where is that helmet http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90ac72ae92.jpg

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 03:31 PM
where is that helmet http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/q4q5tnh4w8/20120601_4fc90ac72ae92.jpg

I was about to post that

It really gives off the theme that Higby always talked about, the NC scavenging mining equipment and re-purposing it for military use

I want it badly

No over-proportional female hips either

Phantomdestiny
2012-12-16, 03:51 PM
I was about to post that

It really gives off the theme that Higby always talked about, the NC scavenging mining equipment and re-purposing it for military use

I want it badly

No over-proportional female hips either

i think the TR need skins that reflect their history of professional army a bit more too .

and on a side note what happened to this galaxy UI it looks way better
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120519_4fb8167f2ede6.jpg

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 03:53 PM
i think the TR need skins that reflect their history of professional army a bit more too .

and on a side note what happened to this galaxy UI it looks way better
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120519_4fb8167f2ede6.jpg

It's there, you just can't free look that low, and I think those two big terminals were replaced with speed/flares

Ruffdog
2012-12-16, 03:54 PM
Apex helmets aren't for Terrans. They look like fucking miner helmets. It's like offering baker's hats to the Spartans

AThreatToYou
2012-12-16, 04:05 PM
I agree, the visual customization definitely needs work.
Everything in PlanetSide 2 needs work, from visuals, to metagame, to mechanics. Yet, I have fun with what we have, and I think that counts for a lot.

Whiteagle
2012-12-16, 04:08 PM
No over-proportional female hips either
:huh: That's suppose to be a woman?

Soothsayer
2012-12-16, 04:13 PM
I've spent about 40k SC so far but if the status quo continues it seems unlikely that I'll have any reason to spend any more.

I suppose making a named set for each class takes a while but maybe a whole bunch of smaller stuff (increase the number of slots for possible customization maybe) would be cool and would go a long way to make good on the "we got this" assertion.

Sturmhardt
2012-12-16, 04:22 PM
The composite armors are pretty good, I think or at least much better than nothing and they change with your camo so that's ok. I only bought that for medic, engineer and Max so far (guess i have a thing for shoulderpads when going to war.)


lol yeah, I bought them all too, also for HA. I like shoulder pads ^^
The TR composites look pretty badass too.

The NC miner-design of that lady that was posted looks pretty awesome. I wish they could have brought that style into the game... but it's not there so I don't think it's ever gonna come. Btw, the NC MAX should have been yellow and not blue, so he would look like that thing from alien:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cQqC8-MzhWs/Tr0L49YWddI/AAAAAAAABBE/TKsE0tz2Cks/s1600/DSC09035.jpg
Missed opportunity!

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 04:24 PM
:huh: That's suppose to be a woman?

that ain't no man that's for sure :D

I'm all for women looking thick but some of the models look out of proportion or down right silly, but that could probably be a thing with the way they're animated or the postures that they take

# edit

I'm wondering. How much of a performance loss could it be if your weapons were actually visible on your body/back when they were un-equipped?

Like, the Heavy having his rocket launcher actually visible on his back?

Whiteagle
2012-12-16, 04:32 PM
that ain't no man that's for sure :D

I'm all for women looking thick but some of the models look out of proportion or down right silly, but that could probably be a thing with the way they're animated or the postures that they take
You sure, because that kind of looks like me under all that gear...

...And did they use a separate female motion capture model or just tweak the male one?

Kail
2012-12-16, 04:54 PM
I can agree the skull ones are terrible; guess they're for the "kool kids" but I would never buy them.

german skull soldiers 1x01 - YouTube

SturmovikDrakon
2012-12-16, 04:55 PM
You sure, because that kind of looks like me under all that gear...

...And did they use a separate female motion capture model or just tweak the male one?

Same as male I think. I haven't noticed any difference, maybe that's why some of the movement looks weird