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Rasgriz
2012-12-21, 12:15 PM
I got them fighting the endless esf / liberator horde blues.

All 3 continents constantly capped and recapped.

The worst part about it is the herp derp leaders of masses call to fight VS instead of TR

I could spam orders channel with unhelpful advice too but I have some common sense.

http://i.imgur.com/Svin3.jpg

Tooterfish
2012-12-21, 12:17 PM
time to roll burster max.

Rasgriz
2012-12-21, 12:21 PM
We had 10+ at one point defending an outpost on Amerish but still got rofl stomped hard.

35 of us couldnt hold it for crap.

Beerbeer
2012-12-21, 12:30 PM
Burster max is about as unrewarding as you can get while playing.

Does it work scaring away air? Kind of? Does it kill much? No? Why play burster when you can play air with similar access restrictions (actually less) and get way more kills.

That's why you don't see many busters and 10x more air. And for those saying air should trump ground forgets the fact that neither has any access restrictions, meaning I can get air just as easily as a max suit. If air was rare, then yes, sounds reasonable.

Hence the reason for their rarity.

Frotang
2012-12-21, 12:49 PM
ya its bad when our outfit has to foucus fire 10 Burters just to take down a lib before it can fly away. We tried 10 skyguards at first and well lets just say we all wished we had our money back from that pos.

bpostal
2012-12-21, 01:19 PM
We had 10+ at one point defending an outpost on Amerish but still got rofl stomped hard.

35 of us couldnt hold it for crap.

Given the design I'd say outposts aren't for holding, they're for rolling over.

KaskaMatej
2012-12-21, 03:35 PM
Isn't Waterson "home" of TB's BRIT and Angry Joe's Angry Army, both TR? I mean, that would be the biggest imbalance factor there.

Ghoest9
2012-12-21, 03:39 PM
The only thing less rewarding than using dual bursters(besides a single burster) is trying to use a Hawk launcher.

Aaron
2012-12-21, 04:24 PM
The only thing less rewarding than using dual bursters(besides a single burster) is trying to use a Hawk launcher.

I was just using the duel bursters today and I thought it worked quite well. Air was kept on it's toes.

But I 100% agree that the G2A rockets are so, so, so much worse. It simply isn't effective. Most the time it ends up not doing damage, but you MUST do damage when there is so much air.

I mean with the MAX an ESF will only get away from me severely damaged. I am also able to deal immediate damage compared to the 5 second lock-on then miss due to flare.

Whiteagle
2012-12-21, 04:32 PM
Isn't Waterson "home" of TB's BRIT and Angry Joe's Angry Army, both TR? I mean, that would be the biggest imbalance factor there.
Well there is that...

...And the fact Terran-Republic.com has been trying to get the major Outfits on Waterson in contact with one-another!:D

Hamma
2012-12-21, 05:04 PM
I have a feeling the other two people in this empire war thing will be going to Waterson and hopefully that will start to even things out more.

WreckedM
2012-12-21, 06:57 PM
I have a feeling the other two people in this empire war thing will be going to Waterson and hopefully that will start to even things out more.

I hope so. Creating this imbalance, and leaving it that way would be very irresponsible on SOE's part. I just wonder whether rotating leaders would be sufficient. I'd think the draw for new players would be front loaded and favor the initial servers

Saintlycow
2012-12-21, 08:27 PM
I have a feeling the other two people in this empire war thing will be going to Waterson and hopefully that will start to even things out more.

Send them where they are needed.

Chewy
2012-12-21, 08:31 PM
I have a feeling the other two people in this empire war thing will be going to Waterson and hopefully that will start to even things out more.

In TBs last PS2 video about the empire wars he talked about getting to fight off a Tobuscus raid. So that can be a clue to him being on the same server, but can't say as I don't follow him and a fast look still shows nothing on his channel about PS2. SeaNanners on the other hand finally posted a (minor) video saying that he is the going to do a livestream on 1-25-13 and that he is going to be the leader of the NC with a how to get his decal (a cat with a NC helmet) from twitter. He did not say anything past that (what server, outfit name, anything).

I understand that there is still a month till this event but we need information as to a few things. Mainly Outfit names and what servers they are on so that pups can stal--- I mean get to know the outfit members and fill the outfit up. That alone takes time, growing a rep takes even more.

PredatorFour
2012-12-22, 12:03 PM
The only thing less rewarding than using dual bursters(besides a single burster) is trying to use a Hawk launcher.

Dual bursters are awesome. You just need to learn more and practise to get the best outta them.

Chewy
2012-12-22, 06:24 PM
Dual bursters are awesome. You just need to learn more and practise to get the best outta them.

Dual bursters are great once you get to know how much to lead a target. Yet even with every shot getting a hit there's still plenty of time for an ESF to fire off a load of rockets and what not before having to bug out.

If Im not a medic or engie I main a dual burster MAX. That's all I play troop wise and know how to use a burster to clear a sky. The problem isn't with the Hawk or burster, it's with AA not giving shit in rewards for how much it costs and how much of it is needed for each aircraft.

No reward equals no people to play the role. It's the same for base defense. No one wants to to do either (outside of outfits) because they just don't pay for the effort. Snowball effect.

Fear The Amish
2012-12-22, 06:30 PM
yeah im on waterson and its a bitch... Hate the TR liberator zerg.. NC does it too. Guess you guys finally figured out how to kibosh that mag zerg ;)

zib
2012-12-22, 06:48 PM
I play TR and our population just started jumping. I hope its due to this silly leader deal. I just hope all the people they bring balance out or leave after this event.


On second thought a ton of NC and VS newbies will be fun to kill......




Imperial Reach Rules over these lands.

Fear The Amish
2012-12-22, 07:08 PM
I play TR and our population just started jumping. I hope its due to this silly leader deal. I just hope all the people they bring balance out or leave after this event.


On second thought a ton of NC and VS newbies will be fun to kill......




Imperial Reach Rules over these lands.

nah Brit and Angry Army does, you are just a tiny bit of floatasm amongst their flood.

Chewy
2012-12-22, 07:14 PM
yeah im on waterson and its a bitch... Hate the TR liberator zerg.. NC does it too. Guess you guys finally figured out how to kibosh that mag zerg ;)

I see a mass of libbies everywhere I go. TR, VS, NC doesn't matter as the libby is one of the best killers in the game. It takes so much firepower to shoo one off that they can unload hell many times over while often being near height cap or view distance.

I could bitch almost all day about G2A AA being crap as a mere deterrent the devs want it to be. But that would be rather off topic and I don't have the time to dig up the needed information.

Whiteagle
2012-12-22, 09:17 PM
yeah im on waterson and its a bitch... Hate the TR liberator zerg.. NC does it too. Guess you guys finally figured out how to kibosh that mag zerg ;)
Yeah, to bad the Vanu ALSO have Liberators and Scythes...

I see a mass of libbies everywhere I go. TR, VS, NC doesn't matter as the libby is one of the best killers in the game. It takes so much firepower to shoo one off that they can unload hell many times over while often being near height cap or view distance.
Well THAT isn't so much the Liberator's fault as it is the poor base design...

...Apparently in the Future on alien worlds, it never rains, because there aren't ANY FUCKING AWNINGS!!!

Dkamanus
2012-12-22, 11:29 PM
God, in Waterson as well, EVERY single time in Indar, NC is stupid enough to leave VS alone and go for TR. TR, in its brilliance, Instead of attacking VS, ATTACKS NC! Leaving the whole Western part of INdar under VS control. And always, when NC zergs Mao tech plants, they don't know where to go next.

The average potato head players in FPS knows nothing of map using. They simply try to know the spots they can camp and cramp kills. PS2 values a commander who knows where to attack and where his faction will be attacked. Those towers are quite the beast to defend in some places in Indar, where there are natural chokepoints to put mines and turn turrets towards.

We lost the defence, but we were a mere 20 guys against a 30 armour column, and we destroy like 80% of that armour column thanks to the geography of the place. Crimson Bluff tower, I won't forget you again. =D

RaTzo
2012-12-22, 11:53 PM
Burster max is about as unrewarding as you can get while playing.

Does it work scaring away air? Kind of? Does it kill much? No? Why play burster when you can play air with similar access restrictions (actually less) and get way more kills.

That's why you don't see many busters and 10x more air. And for those saying air should trump ground forgets the fact that neither has any access restrictions, meaning I can get air just as easily as a max suit. If air was rare, then yes, sounds reasonable.

Hence the reason for their rarity.

LOL.. I'm a fairly successful Mossy pilot. Because of the short render distance Burster Maxes are the second most dangerous thing in the world to me. The Scythe is the only thing that will give me more concern than a burster max. Two burster maxes working together and forget it... send the tanks in.

That people don't use them often doesn't mean they are not HIGHLY effective. They are, but their roll is limited and most players want to play like this is COD or BF for that matter. I say go ahead keep playing like it's COD because that just makes it easier for me to take territory away from you. :)