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Wang
2012-12-25, 06:20 PM
Am I the only person still having a great time? I get that there are problems but the game has been out for month and what they have so far is amazing.

Bah just ranting

PS. This is mostly about the official forums. PSU is where I come to read intelligent posts with things like logic and reasoning behind them

PSS. And to use bad words

Rolfski
2012-12-25, 06:38 PM
The game is great. But the more you play it, the more its problems seem to become apparent to people.

Crator
2012-12-25, 06:45 PM
It's what happens on public forums... People see the things that could be better and talk about it.

TheMarz
2012-12-25, 07:00 PM
I'm still having fun, so no your not the only one

SixShooter
2012-12-25, 07:19 PM
I'm with you. I get that there are some pretty big problems but I'm still playing and still having a great time. I'm really looking forward to see what they're going to do in the coming months.
:cheers:

Sledgecrushr
2012-12-25, 07:19 PM
Still absolutely love the game.

Imij
2012-12-25, 07:21 PM
I think everyone is getting restless because there has only been one patch that didn't really do anything besides bug fix, and the information has seemed to have dried up. The Devs aren't talking as much as they used to. We have no idea what is going on with the game. Hopefully in January that will be fixed.

Fear The Amish
2012-12-25, 07:26 PM
your a pilot of course your having fun its just the other 2/3rds of us you farm that aren't.

kaysio
2012-12-25, 07:27 PM
I still enjoy the game, when I get a chance to play.

NoXousX
2012-12-25, 07:47 PM
your a pilot of course your having fun its just the other 2/3rds of us you farm that aren't.

If you are getting air farmed you are doing it wrong. Seriously.

ShadetheDruid
2012-12-25, 07:48 PM
I'm still enjoying it a lot (well, today's been a bit quiet but that's not surprising).

I think I lucked out with my server choices because I don't run into nearly the same amount of problems as people complain about all the time (not that it doesn't happen at all, it's just a matter of frequency). I purposely avoided the main/popular servers, so maybe that's why.

Fear The Amish
2012-12-25, 08:26 PM
If you are getting air farmed you are doing it wrong. Seriously.

that is cute coming from a farmer with some suspicious stats

NZVeritas
2012-12-25, 08:38 PM
The game is great for the most part.
Only today I have noticed seriously bad TKing in Briggs as Vanu.

Twice I had my sunderer destroyed by an allies C4 so they could place their sunderer in my place.
Had a low level Vanu shoot me in the back while I was a MAX with my own Sundy, locked him out so he proceeds to try and kill me outside it.

Ran with two high ranking lightnings as a mag rider and ended up getting the kills.
Little did I know one of them had decided to run circles around his lightning over the otherside of the hill while he repaired it.
I come over the hill and ran him over by accident.
Said sorry.
I get out and start to repair his lightning and my mag rider.
His colleague decides to kill me for it.

AThreatToYou
2012-12-25, 08:40 PM
I have a lot fun playing the game, yes, but it has serious problems.

Rolfski
2012-12-25, 08:47 PM
that is cute coming from a farmer with some suspicious stats
I have got to agree here. Don't be so stupid to show off a signature with a K/D ratio of over 10. It will only make you look suspicious, not cool at all and one of the reasons people are complaining here.

james
2012-12-25, 08:50 PM
Love the game, hate how unstable it is now

Wang
2012-12-25, 08:55 PM
I am a pilot but I do play my heavy a lot. Getting hit by libs sucks but getting bursters and showing them who's boss is awesome. I do get bored of flipping empty bases for certs but I can instantly change that with 5 mins of looking at the maps. Tanks are bad but I bet me and my squad can make them run from rockets. And its all awesome while I'm doing it... I don't get it... maybe I'm just turning into a PS2 fanboy

Fear The Amish
2012-12-25, 09:31 PM
I have got to agree here. Don't be so stupid to show off a signature with a K/D ratio of over 10. It will only make you look suspicious, not cool at all and one of the reasons people are complaining here.

yeah a 10 K/D most played Engie with practically no head shots... we know EXACTLY what you are doing...

bpostal
2012-12-25, 09:38 PM
I agree this is a good game, but it's not a good PLANETSIDE game. Not yet. I think most of us can agree there are things we'd like to see come back, which should have been in at the beginning but the foundation is there.
Can people enjoy this game? Absolutely. But I would be disappointed in the extreme if people are satisfied with the game in it's present state.
That, or I just like to bitch.

Bocheezu
2012-12-26, 12:36 AM
I normally play TR Mattherson, and to spice things up, I made a VS guy on Miller. That server seems to play very differently; for the couple hours I played it seemed like it wasn't all just Allatum farm. After a big battle at Highlands Solar Station against TR, there was a long outdoor infantry battle on the outskirts of Hvar (TR had Hvar at the time); we basically had Sundies on opposite sides of this rock formation with a crack in the middle, and it was just a infantry mosh pit in that crack. There were still tanks duking it out in the open field, but we weren't getting camped by tanks. I don't know if I saw a single plane. Very different gameplay there and not something I've experienced on Mattherson.

bpostal
2012-12-26, 02:20 AM
I normally play TR Mattherson, and to spice things up, I made a VS guy on Miller. That server seems to play very differently; for the couple hours I played it seemed like it wasn't all just Allatum farm. After a big battle at Highlands Solar Station against TR, there was a long outdoor infantry battle on the outskirts of Hvar (TR had Hvar at the time); we basically had Sundies on opposite sides of this rock formation with a crack in the middle, and it was just a infantry mosh pit in that crack. There were still tanks duking it out in the open field, but we weren't getting camped by tanks. I don't know if I saw a single plane. Very different gameplay there and not something I've experienced on Mattherson.

Weird, what's it like on US servers then?

SixShooter
2012-12-26, 02:36 AM
I think everyone is getting restless because there has only been one patch that didn't really do anything besides bug fix, and the information has seemed to have dried up. The Devs aren't talking as much as they used to. We have no idea what is going on with the game. Hopefully in January that will be fixed.

A much needed vacation will explain most of this. Smed has hinted to big changes in January but I really hope that the dev team is getting head clearing rest right now and coming back with solutions to the current problems as well as ways to move forward and keep it all interesting.

I'm seeing so many threads complaining that infantry is useless and that nobody defends anything. In the last few hours I've been involved in some epic re-secures as well as some awesome crazy fights mostly rolling infantry. Maybe it's due to the holliday and there is better balance on the servers but I have had a great time tonight :).
:cheers:

Fortress
2012-12-26, 03:50 AM
I have got to agree here. Don't be so stupid to show off a signature with a K/D ratio of over 10. It will only make you look suspicious, not cool at all and one of the reasons people are complaining here.

Because getting a 10:1 K/D in farmside 2 is hard.

Bocheezu
2012-12-26, 04:29 AM
Weird, what's it like on US servers then?

For solo TR types on Mattherson, it's basically

1. Go to Allatum; if no spawn at Allatum is available, go to 2
2. Sit in a tank hammering away at something from 150m away; after your tank gets bombed (estimated tank survival time: 5-10 mins), go to 3
3. Die repeatedly to Lib/Mag or ghost cap something

The VS/TR area on Indar is a constant back-and-forth of tank zergs with planes (VS usually have about a 1/1 ratio Scythe/Lib) everywhere. It was so strange being on Miller and actually surviving out in the open on foot for whole minutes at a time without being bombed.

Allatum is really the only refuge and NC have been douchebags lately by taking Allatum and filling it up with Dual Hacksaws, mucking up the TR/VS Allatum farm and making things miserable. I still will drop in there for a nice easy teleport room farm if TR take the northern satellite.

East side is usually ghost cap central because the entire NC faction is in Allatum

Esamir and Amerish are basically dead.

Rolfski
2012-12-26, 07:31 AM
Because getting a 10:1 K/D in farmside 2 is hard.Because playing to farm only is not something to brag about in your signature.

PredatorFour
2012-12-26, 07:40 AM
It must be so funny watching these guys with 10 k/ d panic at times to protect their ratio`s. I bet they would never leave PS runnin while they got a drink or something to eat. Bet they are the first ones to send hate for gettin killed too.

PS isnt about k/d ratio`s, if you are playing it for that then your doing it wrong.

Sometimes you gotta dig in and get stuck in for your side, losing or winning. You shouldnt turn your tail and flee just because your side is slowly losing territory to a larger enemy. Stand and fight pussies!

Hamma
2012-12-26, 09:45 AM
Official forums are always bastions of negativity.

That being said there are major issues with this game. I like to think we handle them a bit more constructively here.

bpostal
2012-12-26, 09:58 AM
There should be a place in PS2 for the killwhores, but IMO the game shouldn't be designed with them in mind. There should be a place for the farmers but IMO the game shouldn't be designed for them in mind.
The strategic, coordinated player who wants nothing but to turn the whole map RED (Blue or Purple for the inferior factions) is who should be in mind when this game is designed.

james
2012-12-26, 10:15 AM
Because getting a 10:1 K/D in farmside 2 is hard.
Sitting in a lib abusing op guns is so hard

Wang
2012-12-26, 11:44 AM
There should be a place in PS2 for the killwhores, but IMO the game shouldn't be designed with them in mind. There should be a place for the farmers but IMO the game shouldn't be designed for them in mind.
The strategic, coordinated player who wants nothing but to turn the whole map RED (Blue or Purple for the inferior factions) is who should be in mind when this game is designed.

^this

FOR FREEDOM !!!!!!!!!!!

AThreatToYou
2012-12-26, 01:05 PM
Official forums are always bastions of negativity.

That being said there are major issues with this game. I like to think we handle them a bit more constructively here.

I believe we do.

Mox
2012-12-26, 01:14 PM
Well i still have a good time playing ps2. The question is how long it will last.
Ps2 has some shortcomings which make the game really boring in the long run. Without going in the details i can say the lack of meta game as well as the lack of enduring big battles will make this game boring after a few month of playing.
The devs really have to pull the plug out of their arses and deliver the missing things asap. Otherwise this game will be dead in some months.

RykerStruvian
2012-12-26, 01:19 PM
I'm trying to continue playing PS2 but I'm starting to feel its too frustrating to keep going on. I want to play it and I am a subscriber. But this game just is bordering on being not fun and a lot of other people I play with nightly are feeling the same. I've been considering cancelling my subscription for the past few days because the game is just not really feeling to be that great.

Yeah, it has problems but these problems are more than just balancing issues. At the moment, the only thing this game offers is instant gratification from killing people but that is really it. And the amount of choices are limited for being a game which offers a lot, but you really can only fight with the zerg and have a great time or try to do something different (and play the game the way it was meant to be played, imo) but tear out your hair over how stupid and frustrating it can be.

I will probably give it another month but if things dont improve by the next start of the next semester, I will probably stop subbing and stop altogether in favor of more rewarding games :) Thats the sad thing though, the fact that Planetside 1 was absolutely awesome and had problems too but was just a blast to play. I've been thinking about just playing PS1 and dropping PS2 altogether.

Suitepee
2012-12-26, 01:28 PM
The game is great. But the more you play it, the more its problems seem to become apparent to people.

Pretty much this. I see much great long-term potential with PS2, as long as they fix the problems they currently have to deal with.

Zulthus
2012-12-26, 02:32 PM
I got bored of Battleside 2 a few days in. I do, however, have confidence in the team that it will turn into Planetside 2 given enough time.

It's just that everything feels very meaningless in the game at the moment, it's just a giant deathmatch. Capping bases doesn't mean anything. Hoping they fix the metagame soon so I start playing again. I think the game has a lot of long term potential.

Fortress
2012-12-26, 02:44 PM
Sitting in a lib abusing op guns is so hard

HE tanks are where it's at. Libs mean you must have a pilot, and that might be misconstrued as teamwork, which is unacceptable!

Also lol at people who think territory matters in PS2: If you had spent any time in the original, you would know what a sad mockery the PS2 territory metagame is.

So yes, we will farm and get hilariously excessive K/D's in protest until we get a game worth playing.

bpostal
2012-12-26, 03:13 PM
HE tanks are where it's at. Libs mean you must have a pilot, and that might be misconstrued as teamwork, which is unacceptable!

Also lol at people who think territory matters in PS2: If you had spent any time in the original, you would know what a sad mockery the PS2 territory metagame is.

So yes, we will farm and get hilariously excessive K/D's in protest until we get a game worth playing.

I agree that your assessment of the metagame is true. PS2 really is 'Size Always Matters' instead of the more proper (and engaging) 'For Land. For Power. Forever.'

As someone who is usually one of those ants you deign to light on fire with your Zephyr, I can only say: Ouch Goddamnit! Quitit!

StumpyTheOzzie
2012-12-26, 04:20 PM
your a pilot of course your having fun its just the other 2/3rds of us you farm that aren't.

BAHAHAHA!!

QFT.

I love "liberating" people.


On a different note, does anybody remember PS1 is the VERY early days? From the stories (I started in MAR 2004) I think there was no lattice so backhacking was a real pain. The lattice was brought in to force the zergs together.

I imagine that (even though they don't want to) eventually the devs will actually look to PS1 and take the things that worked and implement them in PS2.

Wang
2012-12-26, 05:29 PM
BAHAHAHA!!

QFT.

I love "liberating" people.


On a different note, does anybody remember PS1 is the VERY early days? From the stories (I started in MAR 2004) I think there was no lattice so backhacking was a real pain. The lattice was brought in to force the zergs together.

I imagine that (even though they don't want to) eventually the devs will actually look to PS1 and take the things that worked and implement them in PS2.

I'm pretty sure I read they are working on a lattice system now

gunshooter
2012-12-26, 07:09 PM
If you are getting air farmed you are doing it wrong. Seriously.

You're not allowed to say things like this when 90% of your kills are in aircraft or vehicles.

NewSith
2012-12-26, 07:19 PM
If somebody pointed me at this game and said - this is CBT, so don't be harsh, I'd say "THE GAME IS FRIGGIN AWESOME". But the problem is, November's long gone.

Also, UGG?
http://www.uuggsinuks.co.uk/images/Ugg%20Sale/UGG%20Boots%205251%20Classic%20Short%20Kids%20Ches tnut_.jpg

james
2012-12-26, 07:54 PM
I'm starting to regret buying the whole year sub, sadly there is so many bugs and problems in the game, that just shouldn't be in a so called release product. Crashing is getting annoying, plus randomly falling threw the world, poor performance, and no meta game. If we don't see some major improvements in the coming months, PS2 future is grim.

Vashyo
2012-12-26, 08:11 PM
Playing the game is like work for me at this point, barely any of my outfit members or friends play anymore, I play only to get certs.

My biggest worry for the game right now is that everything SOE does to the game will end up as a streak of half-assed attempts to improve the game, where they never do that needed drastic change to make the game more complex in fear of alienating the players with lesser intellect/lazy players who don't want to adapt. AKA gamers of today.

I've put around 80€ into the game allready, I'm starting to regret it :(

Will see what happens on january

Belhade
2012-12-26, 10:48 PM
Why don't devs understand the strong feelings gamers have about their games? I've never played PS1 but it sounds like most people here would still like to be playing it. PS2 should be the same game with better graphics. I mean, I would kill for Age of Empires 2 with native 16x9 resolution.

Mavvvy
2012-12-27, 08:00 AM
I love it, dispite its flaws there simply ain't anything else like it.

I do hope for some good news/action in January though, in terms of changes.

SGTalon
2012-12-27, 02:27 PM
I almost made a thread like this one. I would have named it "Stop the QQ, or Quit Crying, or Why so negative?" rather than UGGGG...

I am loving the game. I agree there are issues. I am not quite so down on it as Hamma is though.

I have come to a revelation recently about this game. I was in PS1 Beta and played for a long time at launch, quit then came back a few more times.

I remember what PS1 was like when it first launched. Way more buggy than PS2, Way more thing that made it almost unplayable, but it was fun.

I remember specifically that there were some serious issues with the Lack of Defense and the whole Chinese Fire Drill mentality when it came to base captures. Just like we have now. It also had issues with a lot of the mechanics of the game. Then they fixed it. They added the Lattice, base benefits, and tweaked a ton of other stuff. It worked.

The other thing that was missing from PS1 was the Meta-Game. There was no "Meta-Game" There wasn't even a concept of a Meta-Game! It took the really crazy smart guys like Malorn and his type to come up with the Meta-Game of PS1. The whole Idea of a Meta-Game was born from the critical thinking and creation of tactics that turned the game from a mindless merry-go-round of zerg base captures into something that required skill, training, and discipline.

I think the thing we are missing from PS2 is the organized tactical mentality that made PS1 so awesome. How many times have you seen a squad or platoon using actual deployment formations when capping bases? 2 MAX in the Control room, CE on the approaches, heavies at the doors, etc? I have NEVER seen it!!!

I have started working on things like this recently. Unfortunately, i was nothing but a grunt in PS1, the leadership of my outfit is barely playing PS2. They haven't even attempted to work on things like this so I have taken it on myself to do it. I just wish i could remember all the training i received back in 2007 when i was playing PS1 hardcore.

Simple facts are, there are counters to almost every issue that people are complaining about on the Official forums and here.

Air Spam, needs dedicated AA - Half the squad pull AA Max - 6 AA Max will deter ANY air attack.

Tank Spam, everyone pull AV, 4 base level rockets will destroy any tank. If all 12 people in the squad pull HA and actually coordinate your targets and pretty much ANY tank spam at a normal base can be countered.

Zerg coming into your Large Base? Man the Wall! Defend the Generators!!! Holy crap has anyone ever seen more than 1 or 2 people defending a generator?? I haven't!!

Continent getting over run, getting pushed back to your warp gate? How about instead of "Ah we lost this continent, lets go somewhere else" why don't you fricking push back!! OMG I think this is the thing that disappoints me more than anything. We have even pop, but start losing territory, so our team abandons the damn continent! Stop it already!

The disappointment i have in this game is NOT a result of the game design. It is a result of the players but mainly in the Outfit Leadership. They should be the ones organizing the fight and BUILDING THE META-GAME!

bpostal
2012-12-27, 03:32 PM
Why don't devs understand the strong feelings gamers have about their games? I've never played PS1 but it sounds like most people here would still like to be playing it. PS2 should be the same game with better graphics. I mean, I would kill for Age of Empires 2 with native 16x9 resolution.

You missed out on Planetside day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qjzGdhUO80

Fear The Amish
2012-12-27, 04:09 PM
But to be honest i still enjoy this game but i find that i am putting all my chips on January patch's.

1.) I LOVE leading my outfit, using the map and strategy to outfight the zerg.
But i wish they gave me proper tools to actually lead my outfit

2.) I love those HUGE fights that happen in random places (NOT THE CROWN! or Eisa)
But i wish they happened more frequently