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CrazEpharmacist

2012-12-29, 06:55 PM

"I said we're going to do it and we will. We are in no rush on it. There are 25 or 30 people playing the game right now. We are putting our resources where they belong."

-John Smedly

This is amazing news. What do you think? (I emailed him when or even if PlanetSide 1 will go F2P. I also linked him MasterChiefs petition. That was his response)

gunshooter

2012-12-29, 07:29 PM

Good to hear that it will happen eventually but man he's a dick.

MasterChief096

2012-12-29, 08:09 PM

Nice man! I'll email him and ask him if it would be possible for him to just flag all veteran accounts for like 2 months of free access as a "test" while they work on PS2 or something.

No *new* accounts can be made for free, and there would only be an email sent to PS vets, so that there would be no threat of PS1 somehow detracting from PS2's playerbase.

MasterChief096

2012-12-29, 08:12 PM

How did you acquire his email?

Atheosim

2012-12-29, 08:20 PM

I personally wouldn't be throwing any stupid ideas at him; I'm sure he's very busy. Take the email that he sent to CrazE as an ultimatum for the community.

RedPower

2012-12-29, 10:35 PM

Nice man! I'll email him and ask him if it would be possible for him to just flag all veteran accounts for like 2 months of free access as a "test" while they work on PS2 or something. No *new* accounts can be made for free, and there would only be an email sent to PS vets, so that there would be no threat of PS1 somehow detracting from PS2's playerbase.
bad idea,we need new blood

MasterChief096

2012-12-29, 11:01 PM

bad idea,we need new blood

I'd argue that, but really, SOE is probably finicky about opening up PS1 in a public manner to everyone. Letting all the vets get back in to slam each other around in a quiet, controlled manner while SOE works on PS2 without really caring so much for PS1 for awhile would probably suit them better.

Hamma

2012-12-29, 11:42 PM

Good to hear that it will happen eventually but man he's a dick.

If he was a dick he never would have responded. Smed posts his e-mail on Twitter all the time.

Death2All

2012-12-30, 11:24 AM

If he was a dick he never would have responded.

The fact that he won't take few minutes of his, or get someone else to take a few minutes of their time to make a decision that would make a loyal fanbase of his happy makes him a dick.

I really don't see any reason as to WHY they can't make it F2P right now seeing how they've given away free months of PS in the past on the whim. What's honestly keeping them from making PS1 go free to play right now? And don't feed me the "they're busy with ps2 xD" garbage. This would take literally no time.

Yes, I'm mad.

RedPower

2012-12-30, 11:57 AM

The fact that he won't take few minutes of his, or get someone else to take a few minutes of their time to make a decision that would make a loyal fanbase of his happy makes him a dick.I really don't see any reason as to WHY they can't make it F2P right now seeing how they've given away free months of PS in the past on the whim. What's honestly keeping them from making PS1 go free to play right now? And don't feed me the "they're busy with ps2 xD" garbage. This would take literally no time.Yes, I'm mad.
PS1 >>> PS2
They fear that PS2 will die quickly if PS1 F2P XD

Babyfark McGeez

2012-12-30, 01:55 PM

No shit, a sub-based game from 2003 where it's a journey in itself to even get a sub for (infact without paypal i don't know IF i could even get a sub here in germany) has only 30 ppl on... that "nobody is playing it" argument is such a joke.

Unfortunately i have to go with RedPower here, currently it kinda smells like fear there
(or they really have some complicated plans for F2P Planetside that would require more then simply enabling the Reserve program without a BR limit again).

But telling me "we're in no hurry because nobody plays PS1" when the reason nobody plays PS1 is exactly the limitation they want to lift feels like smed is making fun of us.

Death2All

2012-12-30, 07:54 PM

No shit, a sub-based game from 2003 where it's a journey in itself to even get a sub for (infact without paypal i don't know IF i could even get a sub here in germany) has only 30 ppl on... that "nobody is playing it" argument is such a joke.

Unfortunately i have to go with RedPower here, currently it kinda smells like fear there
(or they really have some complicated plans for F2P Planetside that would require more then simply enabling the Reserve program without a BR limit again).

But telling me "we're in no hurry because nobody plays PS1" when the reason nobody plays PS1 is exactly the limitation they want to lift feels like smed is making fun of us.

Agreed. The reason I'm so mad is simply because it's a completely bogus excuse.

He's flat out lying about it and that's insulting. Be real with your fanbase. People appreciate it more when you're honest with them rather than when you try and sugar coat everything. Not that this is sugar coating by any means.

MasterChief096

2012-12-30, 09:07 PM

They should give all existing PS accounts like four months of free play time to quiet us down. After the four months the game should be five bucks a month. No new accounts can be made for PS1 (unless they are willing to pay $15) until after that four months.

Four months should be enough time for them to figure out how they want to milk more money out of the game. On PlanetSide's May anniversary day they should roll out the F2P platform, whether that's reserves and $5 a month, a single $5 purchase, or whatever.

For now though, to content us, they should give us all some free months. There's really no reason not to. They can keep it quiet by letting people know via email.

Figment

2012-12-30, 09:16 PM

No shit, a sub-based game from 2003 where it's a journey in itself to even get a sub for (infact without paypal i don't know IF i could even get a sub here in germany) has only 30 ppl on... that "nobody is playing it" argument is such a joke.

You never heard of Global Collect? It's simply a bank withdrawl permission you give to SOE to take out money straight from your bank account once every period...

I've paid through that for years. Never had issues. But hey, maybe we old timers still just know how banks work. :p

Unfortunately i have to go with RedPower here, currently it kinda smells like fear there
(or they really have some complicated plans for F2P Planetside that would require more then simply enabling the Reserve program without a BR limit again).

Nah, it smells like limited resource prioritisation.

But telling me "we're in no hurry because nobody plays PS1" when the reason nobody plays PS1 is exactly the limitation they want to lift feels like smed is making fun of us.

It depends how they look at it. They look at the current playerbase and extrapolate from there. We look at the non-playerbase and extrapolate from there...

Tbh, they could simply lower the sub costs, extend the subs of the few dozen active players according to their last paid cost and see what happens then. That shouldn't take more than a week to change, one press release and mass email, doesn't even need much fancy bells. Due to all the PS2 coverage, the news would actually be spread quite quickly.

Babyfark McGeez

2012-12-31, 02:12 PM

Uh, YOU "old timer"? How old do you think I am? Usually people who feel the need to point out that they are "old" barely scratched the 30 mark. :p

You are right with the banking, i never liked involving my bank account in gaming subscriptions though. Call me weird, but for small purchases like a month of PS1 i prefer the mobile payment method despite the fact it costs more. I like my bank data to be kept out of the net (might just be an "oldtimer thing" *cough*), hehe.
The main problem with subscribing i had was more to actually find the game and a way to buy a subscription (it doesn't even show up in the games list). I eventually made it though, so all good.

You also mention limited resources as the reason for soe not doing anything with PS1 to revive it, but in the next paragraph you point out how easy and quick it could be made more accessible. Even more easy then your idea, simply turning the reserve program back on would be a good start. And i am fairly certain the resources over at sony aren't so limited that they can't do that without other projects suffering.

And i'm still not convinced about a sub (of whatever number). I think it would consolidate PS1 as a ghost town. But since that's just speculation i guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

basti

2012-12-31, 10:43 PM

No shit, a sub-based game from 2003 where it's a journey in itself to even get a sub for (infact without paypal i don't know IF i could even get a sub here in germany) has only 30 ppl on... that "nobody is playing it" argument is such a joke.

Unfortunately i have to go with RedPower here, currently it kinda smells like fear there
(or they really have some complicated plans for F2P Planetside that would require more then simply enabling the Reserve program without a BR limit again).

But telling me "we're in no hurry because nobody plays PS1" when the reason nobody plays PS1 is exactly the limitation they want to lift feels like smed is making fun of us.

For plenty of years, SOE is getting my cash direclty out of my bank account, without any extra taxes or stuff.

Atheosim

2013-01-01, 03:41 PM

For plenty of years, SOE is getting my cash direclty out of my bank account, without any extra taxes or stuff.

1. You missed the point completely

2. You're fighting against making PS1 F2P which quite frankly is unabashedly absurd. Don't fuckin play it if you don't want to.

Baneblade

2013-01-05, 07:28 PM

How did you acquire his email?

He's on Facebook too.

VGCS

2013-01-06, 07:41 PM

If he was a dick he never would have responded. Smed posts his e-mail on Twitter all the time.

No he's atleast dickish, but he's certainly no coward like most gaming Devs unfortunately are. Hope this comes to fruition this year, I've always wanted to try out PS1 for the past decade but the Monthly Sub system has run so counter to my principles that I could never justify to betray them even when I had a steady job

Badjuju

2013-01-11, 01:38 AM

PS1 >>> PS2
They fear that PS2 will die quickly if PS1 F2P XD

This. I started playing ps1 at launch and played for years. Then after maybe a two year break I returned to play the entire year leading up to beta for PS2. I was having more fun playing PS1 this summer after countless hours with the game than I am with PS2 currently. I am bored to death with PS2 already in its current state and have quit untill(if) things improve. With so many veterans playing of PS1 playing PS2, and so many vets already taking a hiatus, I am sure they don't want to give any more incentive jump ship.

kubacheski

2013-01-11, 02:14 AM

Personally I don't think its fear, I see it more of they really need to work on PS2 to make it viable. Imagine a car company deciding to reengineering a 2003 model instead of working on the flagship 2012 model. Doesn't exactly make sense.

The fact of the matter is that games that are F2P are not free. I'm not sure how they'll monetize the content of PS1, but they're not gonna just give it for free, they need to entice at least some of the player base to pony up some $$. I mean really what would you buy with a microtransaction? grenades? ACE's? Content? Exp boosts? Implementation of that would take some re-engineering?

Yea you can simply give everyone free time, but personally I'd also love to see a graphics update like they originally planned with PS:Next. They did start down that path before ForgeLight was the new direction. I wouldn't mind them spending a while updating the graphics engine and rendering new models and such.

RedPower

2013-01-11, 03:14 AM