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mbarrett
2013-01-04, 02:37 PM
I was really looking forward to planetside 2 and all i can say after playing it and trying to enjoy it , I would like to ask one direct question directed at matt higby , why the bloodyhell did you and your team decide to make a sequel to planetside and remove everything that was good and worked well in the original game , nothing at all in planetside 2 feels like planetside , this is the lame reply to my question which i would expect , BF3 sold 10 million copies so lets copy it in every way hape and form , there is not enough conts , the squad/platoon should be displayed properly like in the original , the zerg seem to be zerging across the map like headless chickens and taking what ever they can , this game needs the command rank system back to control the fight better . i hope evryone goes back to the original planetside because even tho graphically it may be dated but i know what game i would rather play

RykerStruvian
2013-01-04, 02:39 PM
You probably have a better chance at an answer by just asking him yourself here:
https://twitter.com/mhigby

VaderShake
2013-01-04, 02:39 PM
LoL....TGIF I guess haha...

Rago
2013-01-04, 02:46 PM
I was really looking forward to planetside 2 and all i can say after playing it and trying to enjoy it , I would like to ask one direct question directed at matt higby , why the bloodyhell did you and your team decide to make a sequel to planetside and remove everything that was good and worked well in the original game , nothing at all in planetside 2 feels like planetside , this is the lame reply to my question which i would expect , BF3 sold 10 million copies so lets copy it in every way hape and form , there is not enough conts , the squad/platoon should be displayed properly like in the original , the zerg seem to be zerging across the map like headless chickens and taking what ever they can , this game needs the command rank system back to control the fight better . i hope evryone goes back to the original planetside because even tho graphically it may be dated but i know what game i would rather play


As far as i heard Planetside 1 had also his Problems as it launched, as well Continents,...
However the Game makes very much things right, if you want Planetside 1 Play it.
I do not criticize you and i respect your Opinion in any Way.(Just want to make this clear) :)

Many things need some work on it, ...
I like and Enjoy the Game a lot but it misses important stuff.

The Thing is They Released it to Early , Everybody Said it, Soe did not care about it.(or they have a Problem with the Bank :P)

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 02:46 PM
You probably have a better chance at an answer by just asking him yourself here:
https://twitter.com/mhigby

Can't put that in 150 characters, oh wait its all been asked before :rolleyes:

mbarrett
2013-01-04, 02:47 PM
I will send him a message via the link you sent , i think all us original planetside players should go back and play the original planetside in protest , to tell them what a shit game ps2 is , i hope this game goes titts up

mbarrett
2013-01-04, 02:49 PM
the main problem with the game is that they have literally cloned bf3 and totally aborted everything which makes planetside .... planetside

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 02:51 PM
I will send him a message via the link you sent , i think all us original planetside players should go back and play the original planetside in protest , to tell them what a shit game ps2 is , i hope this game goes titts up

People have already left the game in droves.
Higby will most likely ignore it, feel free to play Planetside if you wish.
Maybe you shoudl wait for Smedleys address later this month before crucifying the entire dev team.

SGTalon
2013-01-04, 02:52 PM
Why? I love Planetside 2. Tons of things are better than PS1 and they are committed to improving and adding to the game for the next 5 years.

Sounds like you just wanted Planetside 1 with better graphics not a new game with a bigger picture and more room for improvement. Every time they added something to PS1 people cried that they ruined the game. Literally every time.

Accept PS2 for what it is not what PS1 was.

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 02:52 PM
I will send him a message via the link you sent , i think all us original planetside players should go back and play the original planetside in protest , to tell them what a shit game ps2 is , i hope this game goes titts up

People have already left the game in droves.
Higby will most likely ignore it, feel free to play Planetside if you wish.
Maybe you should wait for Smedleys address later this month before crucifying the entire dev team.

mbarrett
2013-01-04, 02:57 PM
planetside was a good game which worked well , it was a good game , no where near perfect and yes it had its flaws like every game , if i wanted to play bf3 then i would just log into my origin account and play it rather then play planetside 2 which is literally the same game

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 02:58 PM
Double post da fuck. Apologies.
Also sony wanted to grab as many people as possible to start making money because a game in development is a game making no profit.
That is the only reasonable conclusion to launching it so early lacking depth of any description.

RykerStruvian
2013-01-04, 02:59 PM
There are a lot of features currently absent with the form of PS2 out and available. Like others have suggested, it would be better to just relax and wait to see what they have to say later this month. The game should still be in beta, IMO, but we have to deal with what we have right now. And considering it is F2P, you could leave with relatively no consequences outside of no cert gains.

Sledgecrushr
2013-01-04, 03:00 PM
Im totally in love with ps2. And yeah it has its issues, unlike a regular game this is going to change with updates and more content. But if I were you I would ragequit and never come back to the game or the forums again.

mbarrett
2013-01-04, 03:32 PM
Im totally in love with ps2. And yeah it has its issues, unlike a regular game this is going to change with updates and more content. But if I were you I would ragequit and never come back to the game or the forums again.

and why is that because i like to express my opinion about the game , if you don't like that then thats your fault not mine , deal with it !

Nolerhn
2013-01-04, 03:42 PM
You probably have a better chance at an answer by just asking him yourself here:
https://twitter.com/mhigby

I'd also like to add that he would probably have a better chance at getting an answer if he would avoid coming out guns blazing like that. If I was a developer I certainly wouldn't respond to a question asked in such a way.

mbarrett
2013-01-04, 03:45 PM
I'd also like to add that he would probably have a better chance at getting an answer if he would avoid coming out guns blazing like that. If I was a developer I certainly wouldn't respond to a question asked in such a way.

I ask them a question and i ask it how i wan't , this game is a fucking joke to
the original planetside and it is a disgrace to such a great game that lasted nearly a decade , so yeah i will ask them what the fuck .....................

VaderShake
2013-01-04, 03:51 PM
I can say I have asked the devs a handful of questions on twitter and they responded each time. Just yesterday T-Ray replied to me about when they are going to do the next command center (I think/hope there taking my idea about it being focused on the future) and when Smed is going to give us and update. T-Ray said both he and Higby won't be back to the office until Monday but they have no set date yet.

EightEightEight
2013-01-04, 03:55 PM
and why is that because i like to express my opinion about the game , if you don't like that then thats your fault not mine , deal with it !

I think it's good to post your opinion but I feel you might have done it a little wrong. (My Opinion)

Instead of calling it a joke why not spend the time to point out issues and offer resolutions to the problems you see, that way rather then reading the title and being immediately put off. People will read and perhaps help you in making planetside 2 a game you will enjoy.

I know this is an emotional topic because we all want this game to last and be a great game. The best thing we can do is take the time to take a breath and gather our thoughts and put them down. Hopefully others will see our concerns and help us. The great thing about this community is that the devs are as excited about the game as we are. I think they can listen to reason and great ideas. We play the game constantly we see things they might not have. We try new things consistently in the game that the devs might not have thought possible in development and that could be for the better or the worse. They need our constructive feedback to make this game better.

Ironside
2013-01-04, 04:29 PM
you just have to look at everything the dev team have said right from the beginning up to present to know this game was never gonna build on the great elements of ps1.

They have tried to create a broad market fps shooter to cater for all but they are failing on so many levels, this forum and the official forums are littered with discontent and moaning at poor metagame, optimisation, render distance, base/tower design, flow of battle, lack of introduction for new players, sancs, vr, cont locks etc etc etc.

Why was beta so short? why push for the november release? Everyone knew the game wasn't ready and the reply we got from smedley was "it's free to play, if you don't like it come back in 6 months" totally wrong approach to the game and and playerbase, from that moment it confirmed what i'd thought for a while that smedley was an idiot.

Free to play shouldn't be used as an excuse for basic elements missing from the game, i've listed some, others have listed more.
Look at the shop, their moneymaker, you cant even view camo's, helms, armour etc on models, basic things you'd expect them to have in a game.

This develpment team are not worthy of the planetside name or the fan/playerbase and another gripe, Devs stop using fucking twitter and actually communicate with use through the forums

RykerStruvian
2013-01-04, 04:36 PM
The reason why I posted the link was not to get someone to direct or vent at a dev but to point out that they are not mythical gods which no one can ever see or speak to. The developers actually are accessible to fans and generally, from everything I've seen, are very friendly and responsive.

If you just communicate to them by remaining calm and respectful you have more success at getting your point across. If they decide to do something, well... it is outside of your control even if it is for or against your point of view.

Legolas
2013-01-04, 04:53 PM
If you just communicate to them by remaining calm and respectful you have more success at getting your point across.

In the grim darkness of forumside there is only... WAAAAR.

maradine
2013-01-04, 04:54 PM
I've had great success in starting dialogs by not starting the conversation like a giant twat. I reserve the right to be a giant twat later, of course.

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 05:01 PM
In the grim darkness of forumside there is only... WAAAAR.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OvUfkj2MGTg/Te7gK6CxxII/AAAAAAAAAHI/wLJJEQBYUkc/s1600/orks_waaagh_recruit.jpg

RykerStruvian
2013-01-04, 05:02 PM
In the grim darkness of forumside there is only... WAAAAR.
Pretty much, lol. Also, I like your sig ;)

ShadetheDruid
2013-01-04, 05:10 PM
Sometimes I wish all forums had a Hissy Fit section, so it could all go in one place (and I could ignore it).

Especially when it comes to people who just discovered there's things in the world that have the audacity to exist even though they don't personally like them.

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-04, 05:18 PM
Sometimes I wish all forums had a Hissy Fit section, so it could all go in one place (and I could ignore it).

Especially when it comes to people who just discovered there's things in the world that have the audacity to exist even though they don't personally like them.

The internet is everyones personal http://sweetbiandbi.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/soapbox.jpg
Don't you know :rofl:

Meecrob
2013-01-04, 05:40 PM
Im totally in love with ps2. And yeah it has its issues, unlike a regular game this is going to change with updates and more content. But if I were you I would ragequit and never come back to the game or the forums again.

Bump for good advice.

thegreekboy
2013-01-04, 09:56 PM
As far as i heard Planetside 1 had also his Problems as it launched, as well Continents,...
However the Game makes very much things right, if you want Planetside 1 Play it.
I do not criticize you and i respect your Opinion in any Way.(Just want to make this clear) :)

Many things need some work on it, ...
I like and Enjoy the Game a lot but it misses important stuff.

The Thing is They Released it to Early , Everybody Said it, Soe did not care about it.(or they have a Problem with the Bank :P)

It was the bank. Sony is in debt up its ass and they really needed money

Rolfski
2013-01-04, 09:59 PM
And another, completely redundant , beaten to death, "why is PS2 not PS1.5" whine . At least get your punctuations right so people can understand what you're saying.

Belhade
2013-01-05, 12:29 AM
Hopefully SOE makes enough money off PS2 that they can get back to EQ Live so my wife will quit bitching.

ChipMHazard
2013-01-05, 07:45 PM
... i hope this game goes titts up

No you don't and if you do then you should feel ashamed. PS2 may or may not become a financial success but to actively wish for it's demise, when there is no valid reason as to want this to happen, is just silly. You are aware that you're wishing for people to possibly be fired, yes?

If you want the developers to answer your questions and take you seriously then the first thing you should keep in mind is to remain constructive. They haven't done anything illegal or unethical, so stove the attitude if you want them to treat you as a mature individual.
Save your apparent anger for when it becomes warranted.

TheBladeRoden
2013-01-13, 07:38 AM
"If SOE build airplanes they would promise a supersonic jet, would deliver a propeller plane, and people would complain because it doesn't fly to Saturn."

If I may add...

"Then a year or two later SOE decides what the plane really needs is to replace the wings with a team of oxen."

hashish
2013-01-13, 09:31 AM
I agree with OP..

PS1 is one of my all time top games and ps2 has been a big dissapointment so far.. Very good gameplay and shooting mechanics but its is missing toooooo many things, like meta-game, need many more vehicles, unique weapons, more conts, sanctuaries the list goes on and on and on and on.. SOE u really fked things up for all of us planetside fans :/

Anyways screw this game, i will come back when it is readyy :) for now im gonna play something that is actually complete.. Im sure in like a year or something this game will be AMAZZING ! but right now it succkks ! They need to add much much more content and i hope that aspects from ps1 make it back in some way because that game was great ! PS2 so far has abosultley NO level of progression and customizability/unique looking weapons, everything is wayy to generalised :( For example in ps1 you actually felt a sense of achievement when you killed enough people to get enough certs to buy a reaver cert or something ! Now its jus boring, 0 progression feeling :/ Oh im br 28 big deal, everything is still the same, no new skills, implants or cool stuff unlocked at higher br, all you get is some crappyass sidegrades and sights !! thats how it feels :( Cmon SOE we need to bring this game back and what will do it is CONTENT !!! There is no content in this game, everything feels exactly the same, all guns recycled and main heavy weapons suck !

The games official motto has always been " Size always matters " or something like that. Even though i do agree with this iconic planetside statement, SOE needs to consider that size does matter, but when u have a GIANT size/scale with everything the same, recycled crap ! same facilites, same biolabs, no variety at ALL ! then SIZE DOES NOT MATTER ! Content does ! and SIZE we need them both..

RedPower
2013-01-13, 10:21 AM
mbarrett you are not alone !
PS2 = BF3OL
PS1 with better graphics is still better than BF3 with better graphics (PS2)
Why would some PS1 vets enjoy the BF3OL? I cant understand it
PS1 is still unique and PS2 is a Garbage

jsnipy
2013-01-13, 12:32 PM
Ignorance is bliss! I'm glad I never played PS1. All I know is this game >>>>> BF3.

Sir fraggington
2013-01-13, 01:40 PM
I smell rustled jimmies.

Shogun
2013-01-13, 02:47 PM
so the game rocks for bf3 players right now.

let´s just hope the devs can keep this up, while adding back in the value ps1 had to also make it appealing to us ps1 vets again.
the game is still in developement and the potential is there. i hope the devs add new and old elements one by one, until the game has something appealing for everybody, like ps1 had.

so the op is right, but the way he expresses his feelings is plain wrong.

RedPower
2013-01-13, 10:09 PM
Ignorance is bliss! I'm glad I never played PS1. All I know is this game >>>>> BF3.
Stupid

Levente
2013-01-14, 02:53 AM
cry some more baby

EVILoHOMER
2013-01-14, 04:08 AM
The game just feels bland, it doesn't have any personality and it doesn't in any way feel like Planetside, it doesn't even have large battles either any more like it used to, the launch battles dwarfed what the game has now.

It just feels like a generic shooter like COD, it doesn't have it's own style, it is as if SOE wanted to make BF more than they did Planetside.

The guns are so bad, they all feel and look the same, each weapon type plays the same, nothing has it's own identity or distinctive play style. The best example is the HA weapons, like they feel like regular guns in the game, these weapons should all have their own personality. If I wanted a Rifle I'd use one instead of an underslung MCG or an orb firing Lasher or a massive beefy JH..... sadly even the JackHammer looks like a rifle and when you're shot by it, it sounds like you've be shot by a silenced weapon and it doesn't feel beefy.

The whole point of a MCG is I DONT WANT TO BE IN COVER! I WANT TO FUCKING BE RUNNING AND GUNNING......... what did SOE do? turn it into a rifle with a disadvantage of spin time.


The vehicles suffer from not being enough of them, really your only choice is a MBT for the ground and ESF for the air, everything else is useless. You can also go the Lib but it doesn't require three people to take advantage of. The Galaxy has no point to it, I've not seen any battle benefit from it like Planetside did. They might as well just have made an AMS instead of the Sund, it is so useless at anything else and the lightning is useless because MBTs are the one made vehicle in Planetside 2.

To balance the game out more they need to add a few more vehicles to flesh it out, rename the Sund to AMS and fix the meta game so Galaxies become useless. SOE need to turn MBTs insto a multi person vehicle instead of a solo vehicle, make it the grounds Lib. If they don't want to do that then they need to make another vehicle that plays this role, just as long as it ain't a BFR.


I wont be coming back though, not until the underslung MCG is back at least.

Mox
2013-01-14, 04:53 AM
so the game rocks for bf3 players right now.

I dont think so. Where are all these bf3/cod players? Most of the servers are more or lese empty. Also on primetime the servers are never full.

The game is too screwd up to be enjoyable for most players.

RedPower
2013-01-14, 05:15 AM
The game just feels bland, it doesn't have any personality and it doesn't in any way feel like Planetside, it doesn't even have large battles either any more like it used to, the launch battles dwarfed what the game has now. It just feels like a generic shooter like COD, it doesn't have it's own style, it is as if SOE wanted to make BF more than they did Planetside. The guns are so bad, they all feel and look the same, each weapon type plays the same, nothing has it's own identity or distinctive play style. The best example is the HA weapons, like they feel like regular guns in the game, these weapons should all have their own personality. If I wanted a Rifle I'd use one instead of an underslung MCG or an orb firing Lasher or a massive beefy JH..... sadly even the JackHammer looks like a rifle and when you're shot by it, it sounds like you've be shot by a silenced weapon and it doesn't feel beefy.The whole point of a MCG is I DONT WANT TO BE IN COVER! I WANT TO FUCKING BE RUNNING AND GUNNING......... what did SOE do? turn it into a rifle with a disadvantage of spin time.The vehicles suffer from not being enough of them, really your only choice is a MBT for the ground and ESF for the air, everything else is useless. You can also go the Lib but it doesn't require three people to take advantage of. The Galaxy has no point to it, I've not seen any battle benefit from it like Planetside did. They might as well just have made an AMS instead of the Sund, it is so useless at anything else and the lightning is useless because MBTs are the one made vehicle in Planetside 2.To balance the game out more they need to add a few more vehicles to flesh it out, rename the Sund to AMS and fix the meta game so Galaxies become useless. SOE need to turn MBTs insto a multi person vehicle instead of a solo vehicle, make it the grounds Lib. If they don't want to do that then they need to make another vehicle that plays this role, just as long as it ain't a BFR.I wont be coming back though, not until the underslung MCG is back at least.
Well say

IronMole
2013-01-14, 09:37 AM
PS2 doesn't differ/offer much from BF3 (and BF3 is a much enjoyable game to play). The only difference right now is the persistent 'world', then again the continents are just maps without a 'winning' scheme.

Years of development to essentially make a carbon copy of Battlefield, what a joke.

Also, I love how Higby always states in the patches that these are done to our request and it's what we wanted, blah blah as if he's doing us a favor.

As I've once already stated. I want PS2 to fail. Simple.

RedPower
2013-01-14, 10:10 AM
PS2 doesn't differ/offer much from BF3 (and BF3 is a much enjoyable game to play). The only difference right now is the persistent 'world', then again the continents are just maps without a 'winning' scheme.

Years of development to essentially make a carbon copy of Battlefield, what a joke.

Also, I love how Higby always states in the patches that these are done to our request and it's what we wanted, blah blah as if he's doing us a favor.

As I've once already stated. I want PS2 to fail. Simple.
Yeah,Higby is a JOKE~:lol:

jsnipy
2013-01-14, 11:24 AM
Stupid

Really? Seems the more history anyone has with almost any sequalized game, the more QQ occurs as time and versions go by. A summary of the whining would be: it's not like the first game.

RedPower
2013-01-14, 11:51 AM
Really? Seems the more history anyone has with almost any sequalized game, the more QQ occurs as time and versions go by. A summary of the whining would be: it's not like the first game.
Yes,u are.And i glad u never played ps1,because its your loss not mine:lol:
Just enjoy your BIGMAP BF,its good enough to those people like you:rolleyes:

jsnipy
2013-01-14, 12:05 PM
Yes,u are.And i glad u never played ps1,because its your loss not mine:lol:
Just enjoy your BIGMAP BF,its good enough to those people like you:rolleyes:

make more a+ threads :)

RedPower
2013-01-14, 12:33 PM
:D:D:D

PredatorFour
2013-01-14, 01:58 PM
I hated your mcg redpower but i admit, i do miss it !

IronMole
2013-01-14, 02:19 PM
....

QuiCKaNdDeaDLy
2013-01-14, 05:23 PM
I wasnt playing since early tech test beta.
I allready hated PS2 there and also thought it was a disgrace to the franchise but I figured I will give it a bit more time to become Planetsidish.


Now Months later I wanted to come back to give it another go and read now lots of Threads like this... Nothing has Changed!

I just cancelled my Download. I guess its time to wait some more...

Higby+Smedly Shame on you!

So in the End all those Years just lies and broken promises :(

Sledgecrushr
2013-01-14, 05:27 PM
Yup its time for everyone to quit. This really is the worst game ive played in years. The entire dev crew should be immediately fired and all traces of this MONSTROSITY erased from the internet for all time. It has been two months and this game isnt even close to perfect.

RedPower
2013-01-14, 11:16 PM
I hated your mcg redpower but i admit, i do miss it !
HAHA :lol:

RedPower
2013-01-14, 11:20 PM
I wasnt playing since early tech test beta.
I allready hated PS2 there and also thought it was a disgrace to the franchise but I figured I will give it a bit more time to become Planetsidish.


Now Months later I wanted to come back to give it another go and read now lots of Threads like this... Nothing has Changed!

I just cancelled my Download. I guess its time to wait some more...

Higby+Smedly Shame on you!

So in the End all those Years just lies and broken promises :(

Well say man :p

RedPower
2013-01-14, 11:29 PM
Yup its time for everyone to quit. This really is the worst game ive played in years. The entire dev crew should be immediately fired and all traces of this MONSTROSITY erased from the internet for all time. It has been two months and this game isnt even close to perfect.

If I am not mistaken,the 666th outfit very enjoy PS2?:rolleyes:

Ghoest9
2013-01-15, 02:18 AM
Its not perfect but the basics of the game are pretty good. With the next patch it could be very good.


Im to the point where whiner like the Op who and the guy who hasbeen angry sense tech beta - they are mostly just humerous.
Its the same clown in every game that bitch about the sequal because its not exactly like the original.

psijaka
2013-01-15, 06:02 AM
Its not perfect but the basics of the game are pretty good. With the next patch it could be very good.


Im to the point where whiner like the Op who and the guy who hasbeen angry sense tech beta - they are mostly just humerous.
Its the same clown in every game that bitch about the sequal because its not exactly like the original.

^ this

Even though PS2 is not perfect, the forthcoming patch is heading in the right direction and I'm hugely excited for the future prospects of the game.

Quite simply, PS2 is by far the best FPS that I have ever played, and it will only get better.

Moodel
2013-01-15, 07:26 AM
I have enjoyed every moment so far and it easily beats old Planetside.

That said there are some things that need changing and as with EVERY MMO there are refinements and patches required and that is the way it will always be with MMO's.

Infernalis
2013-01-15, 08:26 AM
The game is far from crap but I can clearly see why people coming from PS1 are dissapointed, they basically improved gunfights by a lot but went the opposite with the metagame turning the game into "BF3 online" (and even then, if Dice was behind I'm quite sure there would be less unbalanced things).

The potential is here though and the game will get better and better over time, I just felt like they lost of lot of time by going a way then another with no clear ideas of what they wanted.

Badjuju
2013-01-15, 12:31 PM
LoL....TGIF I guess haha...

That sig is awesome

VaderShake
2013-01-15, 12:59 PM
That sig is awesome

Thanks, I want to do a MAXX version as well, I just need the time!

Qwan
2013-01-15, 01:37 PM
I was really looking forward to planetside 2 and all i can say after playing it and trying to enjoy it , I would like to ask one direct question directed at matt higby , why the bloodyhell did you and your team decide to make a sequel to planetside and remove everything that was good and worked well in the original game , nothing at all in planetside 2 feels like planetside , this is the lame reply to my question which i would expect , BF3 sold 10 million copies so lets copy it in every way hape and form , there is not enough conts , the squad/platoon should be displayed properly like in the original , the zerg seem to be zerging across the map like headless chickens and taking what ever they can , this game needs the command rank system back to control the fight better . i hope evryone goes back to the original planetside because even tho graphically it may be dated but i know what game i would rather play

Im not hear to bash your thread mbarrett, in fact I agree with you on some aspects. But prior to release they said this would not be a past and cut of PS1, and its not. I mean to tell you the truth the FPS genre has evolved alot since PS1 and I think they went in the right direction. I see the first 6 months to a year as building up the platform for whats to come. I believe that they initially put it out in this format to gain the confidents of most of the BF3, CoD gamers to at least get them to take a look and they did. I think that as more content is added to the game you will start to see alot of the familier things that we vets have grown to like in the game. So I think you should give it time, and follow the growth of the game like we did when PS1 came out, I think you will start to see what your looking for.

..Ding .... Ding .... Ding.... And thats one to grow on. :D

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-01-15, 02:03 PM
the FPS genre has evolved alot since PS1

Ironsights...

GisTheGit
2013-01-16, 06:45 AM
Well in my experience there is no such thing as a decent sequel

Nova cracked it with the DF series & Cod1 & UO but as a rule sequels suck


BF2 legendary game - BF3 clusterfuck console crap
Modern warfare Great competitive game - MW2 & Copy & paste 3 utter shite
MOH awesome - Every HOH since not worth the disc space
Ghost recon 1 & 2 rocked but every since sucks monkeys gonads

The list can go on but why should PS2 be any different ?

NewSith
2013-01-16, 07:08 AM
Well in my experience there is no such thing as a decent sequel

Nova cracked it with the DF series & Cod1 & UO but as a rule sequels suck


BF2 legendary game - BF3 clusterfuck console crap
Modern warfare Great competitive game - MW2 & Copy & paste 3 utter shite
MOH awesome - Every HOH since not worth the disc space
Ghost recon 1 & 2 rocked but every since sucks monkeys gonads

The list can go on but why should PS2 be any different ?

Derailing is bad, but nevertheless:

Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun/Red Alert 2
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Half-Life 2
GTA (3 and further, since IMO GTA1 was better than GTA2)
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Need for Speed: Underground 2
Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

As for more modern games:
Warhammer 40k Dawn Of War 2
Batman: Arkham City
Borderlands 2
Transformers: Fall of Cybertron

Add consoles to that:
Halo 3
Killzone 2
Mortal Kombat (Reboot)


The list is really huge, I'm just tooo lazy to give you the entire list. However in the modern environment, sequels for games do tend to suck compared to their predecessors.

Qwan
2013-01-16, 07:11 AM
Ironsights...


:rofl: Nooo I mean graphic and design wise, also FPS players of today love there cookie cutter classes, the medic, engi, heavy, light and stuff like that. In PS1 you had a shell, and you designed it the way you wanted. You had your medic, engi and heavy all in one (if you spent the certs right). Todays FPS player wants instant vehicle access, in PS1 if you didnt spend the certs access was denied. The system worked fine for me, but like I said SOE wanted to attract everybody not just PS1 vets. So here we are today with PS2 its very successful, they attracted alot of the new FPS gamers with the cookie cutter class design and they also have the vets playing because they used PLANETSIDE in the planetside 2 title. Alot of vets are a little disappointed but as each month goes by, a little bit more of PS1 is actually coming into the game, and I see it like this. In time most of the next gen FPS players will go off and play that shinny new shooter from BF3 or CoD, but you know who will still be here, guys like me, true blue fans of Planetside.

Valcron
2013-01-16, 09:22 AM
I was really looking forward to planetside 2 and all i can say after playing it and trying to enjoy it , I would like to ask one direct question directed at matt higby , why the bloodyhell did you and your team decide to make a sequel to planetside and remove everything that was good and worked well in the original game , nothing at all in planetside 2 feels like planetside , this is the lame reply to my question which i would expect , BF3 sold 10 million copies so lets copy it in every way hape and form , there is not enough conts , the squad/platoon should be displayed properly like in the original , the zerg seem to be zerging across the map like headless chickens and taking what ever they can , this game needs the command rank system back to control the fight better . i hope evryone goes back to the original planetside because even tho graphically it may be dated but i know what game i would rather play


This is a solid post, it is true that Planetside 2 is nothing more than a meat grinder. It's not good, simple as that.

Baptist
2013-01-16, 09:48 AM
Hi Guy's before Beta I used to check these forums everyday for updates on how Planetside 2 was coming along, I played PS1 back when it first came out and still have the box copy laying around somewhere, but it was sooo buggy that I quickly lost interest and left never to return, sound familiar??
This Virgin of greatness you all call PS1 wasn't born perfect, In my head whenever I click this forum I always think what are they crying about today.

I lol'd and spat Tea on my Keyboard when I read

Planetside 2 , what a joke of a game,it does not even deserve to be called planetside

Come On deal with it, I don't play CoD and I bought BF3 but only played that game twice in a total of 30 minutes game time, though I will say for awhile I really got into Bad Company 2, I'm saying this because you all keep referring to PS2 like BF3, which it's nothing like.
NOTHING LIKE, they have Guns and you can shoot people .. that's it you all know it to be true the Dev's are working at it, they are giving your community attention and are trying to listen and be helpful, I'd say if you don't like the game just stop playing and stop crying, for the love of GOD stop the crying.
I think Hamma needs to post up another Moral boast video or something, cause most of you have kicked the rattle out of the pram.

IronMole
2013-01-16, 11:46 AM
Come On deal with it, I don't play CoD and I bought BF3 but only played that game twice in a total of 30 minutes game time, though I will say for awhile I really got into Bad Company 2, I'm saying this because you all keep referring to PS2 like BF3, which it's nothing like. NOTHING LIKE, they have Guns and you can shoot people .. that's it you all know it to be true


As stated before - Higby is an avid BF3 fan and PS2 is heavily influenced on that. No matter how you try and put it, PS2 pretty much plays like BF3. The whole design on PS2 is identical to BF3.

PS1 was unique, although first of it's kind - the whole system was different. Makes me wonder why so many people carried on playing for years at a time and not sticking to the usual FPS's... :rolleyes:

I've played pretty much every FPS game that's been created, both publicly and competitively. PS2 has brought nothing different to the genre.

PoisonTaco
2013-01-16, 11:56 AM
Was the original Planetside really as good as it was the day it came out? You can't tell me it was free of its own problems at launch and a few months after.

Planetside 2 has some issues yes. Does that spell doom and gloom? No. We're being listened to, so all there is to do is wait and see what these new tunnels will bring for us.

PredatorFour
2013-01-16, 11:57 AM
I think Hamma needs to post up another Moral boast video or something, cause most of you have kicked the rattle out of the pram.

Sorry but didn't you kick the rattle out the pram not giving PS a chance? or this one it seems? Come on, you missed out on one of the greatest games of all time there !

The game IS like battlefield you surely cannot deny that. The people in authority working on PS 2 development said they loved battlefield and its obvious with things like the class system amongst other things.

People are crying because they are upset and hurt, their expectations of the game were huge and the game has fallen short. Maybe they shouldn't cry on forums but its maybe the only place they can vent their frustrations and get them out.

I for one am actually looking forward to what this year brings. I hope in a year it will change into a true planetside sequel. They finally managed to make tunnels underground which could open up a whole can of worms in regards to base design. I hope in time we will see proper PS1 style bases done in the style of PS 2 now the engine can support it.

Qwan
2013-01-16, 12:32 PM
This is a solid post, it is true that Planetside 2 is nothing more than a meat grinder. It's not good, simple as that.

I have to agree to disagree with you on this as well Valcron, it is a meat grinder, but isnt any FPS a meat grinder. All the other FPS are just shoot and get shot and take the points, right. The difference in PS2 is there is no time limit, no end of a match screen with stats, its persistant, you take it its yours until another faction steps over your dead body to capture the point. One of the things I look forward to (Im hoping and believe) is that more and more content will be added, like weapons, vehicles, and hopefully weapon tweeking in balance and hopefully some better base designs and vehicle designs, continent designs, better command interface ( I want to doodle on the damn screen), ability to fly out over the damn water and smoke my cig.

As a PS fan Im really looking forward to the next 6 months, for better and better content.

Rockit
2013-01-16, 12:44 PM
STS-133 Lands at Kennedy Space Center for the last time - YouTube

hashish
2013-01-16, 01:37 PM
Guys if u want something to play while waiting for planetside 2 to be 'Completed' as it really is like 10% done at the moment lol ! Try out Guild wars 2 !

Im mainly and fps gamer but i got convinced by a friend and it really is a great MMO. The scale of guildwars 2 make planetside 2 look PUNY ! lol SOE has soo much work todo so why not play something that is ready :)

maradine
2013-01-16, 02:21 PM
The scale of guildwars 2 make planetside 2 look PUNY ! lol

Current size of GW2 world: <100km^2

Current size of PS2 world: <64km^2 * 3

Also, it turns out you can play two MMOs at once. I know - I was surprised, too.

Hamma
2013-01-16, 03:01 PM
This thread is pretty close to being locked at this point. Let's try and keep it I don't know.. somewhat constructive?

FreeSpeech
2013-01-16, 04:40 PM
Scythes are overpowered, NC guns are absolute rubbish, Reavers have no advantages over anything whatsoever. Plenty of TR and VS players hack despite have EZ mode guns to play with, frankly, if Planetside could just balance NC with the other factions, it would be awesome, but as it stands. Fail.

ShadetheDruid
2013-01-16, 04:59 PM
Can I make a suggestion, FreeSpeech? Maybe make a topic of your own and put all your gripes in it where people can discuss them, constructively, rather than spamming every topic?

maradine
2013-01-16, 05:03 PM
Especially considering there is, you know, data we can cite in the proper context. Such as a thread.

StumpyTheOzzie
2013-01-16, 05:08 PM
-stuff-

Alot of vets are a little disappointed but as each month goes by, a little bit more of PS1 is actually coming into the game, and I see it like this. In time most of the next gen FPS players will go off and play that shinny new shooter from BF3 or CoD, but you know who will still be here, guys like me, true blue fans of Planetside.

MOOOARRR!!! Faster more PS1 stuff NOWWWWWww!!!

Monthly additions of 1% of PS1 at the cost of 10% of the playerbase is too slow.

But yes, I'm a hater right now - but after dynamic XP and squad XP (oh please please please bring back squad XP - I'm saying that not as a leecher but as a pilot) then I'll be generally happy.