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VaderShake
2013-01-07, 03:59 PM
Just putting this comment from today here so everyone can speculate more and rant less.....lol who am I kidding the rants will continue..

M Margaret A Krohn "What you don't know is that lots of things have been fixed/completely changed. Just not on the build you are playing on."

Linky: http://www.facebook.com/#!/margaretkrohn

RykerStruvian
2013-01-07, 04:04 PM
Realistically, what could have been completely changed? I'm assuming it will probably be defense rewards/liberator changes. Probably a change to anti tank mines as well.

Sturmhardt
2013-01-07, 04:13 PM
Thanks for letting us know, but I believe it when I see it. If they really changed that much why don't they tell us specifics? A simple "Guys, chill the fuck out, we are building more defensible bases." would calm everybody down. Right now I see Luperza's statement as another form of "soon".

unAimed
2013-01-07, 04:37 PM
Thanks for letting us know, but I believe it when I see it. If they really changed that much why don't they tell us specifics? A simple "Guys, chill the fuck out, we are building more defensible bases." would calm everybody down. Right now I see Luperza's statement as another form of "soon".

This! Compiling a list of concerns they noted would calm a lot of people down imo...

james
2013-01-07, 04:46 PM
Its great but if its not on the current build. Its irrelevant. Devs had been known to make statements like that and then its been months before the patches where out.

LoliLoveFart
2013-01-07, 05:03 PM
To be fair, the launch build was light years ahead of the last beta build. For the time being id trust SOE. If they fuck us over, then we can start calling bullshit. Have a little faith guys. :lol:

Phantomdestiny
2013-01-07, 05:05 PM
this is higby 2 hours ago
"We're sorting through a lot of great @Planetside2 community feedback & planning some big changes to address major issues being brought up."


but hey guys how about we get the road map already? please SOE

JesNC
2013-01-07, 05:07 PM
this is higby 2 hours ago
"We're sorting through a lot of great @Planetside2 community feedback & planning some big changes to address major issues being brought up."


but hey guys how about we get the road map already? please SOE

It's his first day back at work, give him at least a chance to write something up...

Soothsayer
2013-01-07, 05:11 PM
"We got this"

"Cust-oh-my-zay-shun"

The list goes on. I like the game but I want a viable community in six months time.

Phantomdestiny
2013-01-07, 05:11 PM
It's his first day back at work, give him at least a chance to write something up...

that's a good point but as of yet the fate of planetside 2 is uncertain .
Either it crashes or it becomes a glorious game . This is the big moment .

Soothsayer
2013-01-07, 05:12 PM
Whuups double post

ringring
2013-01-07, 05:21 PM
TBH I feel better knowing that something is being looked at and ofc +1 to giving the guys time on return from hols.

Rockit
2013-01-07, 05:29 PM
Guys really. Do you think they "shot their budget wad" on what we see now? Hell no i don't. Give them some time to sort things out. They needed a break, hell I know I would have after that crunch.

james
2013-01-07, 05:33 PM
Guys really. Do you think they "shot their budget wad" on what we see now? Hell no i don't. Give them some time to sort things out. They needed a break, hell I know I would have after that crunch.

Its part of the job. Wall street brokers don't decide to stop managing investments. it was a poor decision to basically stop work on the game for around a month. Especially with a rushed release, plus you have a crap ton of people playing over the holidays.

Rockit
2013-01-07, 05:35 PM
Its part of the job. Wall street brokers don't decide to stop managing investments. it was a poor decision to basically stop work on the game for around a month. Especially with a rushed release, plus you have a crap ton of people playing over the holidays.

Well sure I understand and I don't necessarily defend it but they have money in the wallet to fix this but it better be soon I know.

Rockit
2013-01-07, 06:00 PM
Hey, Chin-UP! Got no time for defeatists!

james
2013-01-07, 06:05 PM
Well sure I understand and I don't necessarily defend it but they have money in the wallet to fix this but it better be soon I know.

That money thing is actually an interesting question. The beta came out about 6 months behind schedule, along with many rumors going around that they where running out of money. Hopefully the first wave put them in a decent position.

Lieken
2013-01-07, 06:10 PM
I brought up the issue on reddit about giving us an idea of changes to come, some patch notes prior to the release etc, all I got was a bunch of shit about how people will bitch and moan and how I know nothing about game development, but the thing is patch notes is an internal document passed between staff, that is going to be changed internally constantly, why not just make that document public and be transparent about it? Community liason, while much better than most other game companies out there, is still lacking I feel.

Rockit
2013-01-07, 06:10 PM
That money thing is actually an interesting question. The beta came out about 6 months behind schedule, along with many rumors going around that they where running out of money. Hopefully the first wave put them in a decent position.

Along with the rumors that business partners were under expectation they would receive X amount of $ before year end. I'd subscribe to that belief first.

AThreatToYou
2013-01-07, 06:24 PM
Dear community,

One thing we don't want is a rushed patch to an already rushed build.
Considering other MMO launches I have experienced,
PlanetSide 2 was smooth, although the game has exceptional flaws.
When devs rush patches, their design becomes blurred and bugs slip through that shouldn't have.

I, at the very least, want a patch that was done through-and-through. Do you?

NewSith
2013-01-07, 06:53 PM
Dear community,

One thing we don't want is a rushed patch to an already rushed build.
Considering other MMO launches I have experienced,
PlanetSide 2 was smooth, although the game has exceptional flaws.
When devs rush patches, their design becomes blurred and bugs slip through that shouldn't have.

I, at the very least, want a patch that was done through-and-through. Do you?

Sadly there is no other way now, imo :(

The game is losing players, and not the kind I'd want PlanetSide to lose.

james
2013-01-07, 06:58 PM
Dear community,

One thing we don't want is a rushed patch to an already rushed build.
Considering other MMO launches I have experienced,
PlanetSide 2 was smooth, although the game has exceptional flaws.
When devs rush patches, their design becomes blurred and bugs slip through that shouldn't have.

I, at the very least, want a patch that was done through-and-through. Do you?

If they didn't rush the game out, there wouldn't be these problems. They are loosing players every day, and already have major population issues. Without a patch soon, the game will end up dead. Based off steam numbers only, they dropped from around 60k to 11k at peak. With the current loss of players of around 100-200 a day.

Rockit
2013-01-07, 07:16 PM
Hey David. Do you agree?

Rockit
2013-01-07, 07:20 PM
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Maidere
2013-01-07, 07:28 PM
Smed 2.5 months ago: "We will be ok on release"

NewSith
2013-01-07, 07:28 PM
[E-Mail Removed] is Malorn

Hmmm, now Sony has two D.B.'s eh?

Hamma
2013-01-07, 07:51 PM
Please don't post his e-mail. If he wants it posted he can post it himself.

NewSith
2013-01-07, 07:57 PM
Please don't post his e-mail. If he wants it posted he can post it himself.

Well, what I know about Malorn for sure - he is quite communicative, and he does visit these on a rather regular basis, so it's no biggy, considering he can be PMed.


I actually respect him for that. Oh and being objective, even if there's something personal standing in the way. I really hope the official forums didn't break him :)

Hamma
2013-01-07, 11:23 PM
Another thing is if you post someone's e-mail on a webpage it will get snagged up for a bazillion spam email lists :lol:

If he's cool with it I am fine with it.. but rather he post it or say it's ok.

Electrofreak
2013-01-08, 12:38 AM
Its part of the job. Wall street brokers don't decide to stop managing investments. it was a poor decision to basically stop work on the game for around a month. Especially with a rushed release, plus you have a crap ton of people playing over the holidays.

I don't think this is really fair. The rest of the world gets holidays but the developers shouldn't?

Lets be realistic here. They worked their asses off to get the game out in time for the holidays, and they deserved a chance to spend time with their families. While I could agree that the timing isn't optimal, the fact is that they're human beings too and they earned it.

ringring
2013-01-08, 05:42 AM
Its part of the job. Wall street brokers don't decide to stop managing investments. it was a poor decision to basically stop work on the game for around a month. Especially with a rushed release, plus you have a crap ton of people playing over the holidays.

Complete and utter bollocks.

They were working 6 days a week for months and often very long days. You can't keep on doing that and keep your health. You have downtime every now and again.

And if you've been reading these boards and others at all you'll know that while maybe the people who talk to us directly have had a well deserved break others have not. Devs have been working all this time, for example Malorn and there will be others.

SeraphC
2013-01-08, 06:23 AM
I'm going to say it again: why on earth can't they do a dev blog on the website. When you start something you give a general outline of where you want to go. This lets the community know what you're working on and gives them a chance to give feedback. This in turn allows you to adjust should you have missed something. When it's done you post a nice little walk through of the finished product and everyone is happy.

This is such a simple and effective concept. It's really beyond me why they're not doing it.

Maybe I'm just behind on the social media part, but I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't want to find out what every devs name is and follow them on facebook, twitter and 500 other social media sites.

Azren
2013-01-08, 06:30 AM
M Margaret A Krohn "What you don't know is that lots of things have been fixed/completely changed. Just not on the build you are playing on."

Linky: http://www.facebook.com/#!/margaretkrohn

Déjà vu, anyone?

They said the same at end of beta when we complained about the game being unfinished. I will go with my experience and go with the "slight bug fixes at best" option.

Rago
2013-01-08, 06:49 AM
These Guys never do Patchnotes XD...

Would be nice anyway to hear something from Luperza, Smed or whoever , what this Rumors called "lots of things" is.

Thanks and thats all.

ChipMHazard
2013-01-08, 07:10 AM
I don't think this is really fair. The rest of the world gets holidays but the developers shouldn't?

Lets be realistic here. They worked their asses off to get the game out in time for the holidays, and they deserved a chance to spend time with their families. While I could agree that the timing isn't optimal, the fact is that they're human beings too and they earned it.

Aye. Of course they should, and did, get their holiday vacation just like everyone else. Video games aren't important enough to warrant developers not receiving any holidays.

Personally I think it was just bad timing, like you pointed out, and the wish to release it before christmas that came back an bit them in the buttocks. The last month or so have surely left a lot of players wondering about the future of Planetside and when they might start seeing the promised changes i.e. the big plan. Methinks they underestimated just how many issues were left after the rushed release, including the ones that became more apparent after it's release.

Regarding Maggie's comment, it's good to hear that they are, hopefully, almost ready to release an update, or at least information about it. I would certainly prefer some more concrete information than someone using the same rhetoric as when they announced the mythical release version. I doubt it sits all that well with those who read it "our internal version is ahead of the release build"... Well, duh. But how is it ahead? And when will we be seeing it? That's what I want, not just some teasing:(

stordito
2013-01-08, 07:21 AM
New Panda Camo!

I expect nothing else but this much.

VaderShake
2013-01-08, 09:26 AM
New Panda Camo!

I expect nothing else but this much.

Ahh...the elusive Panda seldom seen in the wild because of the Panda's uncanny ability to blend in and camouflage it's self in it's natural surroundings...
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/9/23/1253704671706/Giant-Panda-in-the-Forest-004.jpg

Figment
2013-01-08, 09:47 AM
I don't think this is really fair. The rest of the world gets holidays but the developers shouldn't?

Lets be realistic here. They worked their asses off to get the game out in time for the holidays, and they deserved a chance to spend time with their families. While I could agree that the timing isn't optimal, the fact is that they're human beings too and they earned it.

Let's be realistic here, launching a MMO might best be done AFTER the dev holidays are over, so concerns can be addressed much faster rather than leaving your community waiting for responses and starting to feel neglected.

Since it's a F2P title, it's not like they earn more money by launching it along with the one time purchase games who do depend on xmas shopping.

Their main reason seems to have been "launch pre-2013, MUST be 2012 title!".

Tbh, I pity the devs for returning to a shitstorm. :p

Sledgecrushr
2013-01-08, 10:18 AM
I think the devs have a good handle on this game and I expect to see great things coming with this next patch. Confidence remains high.

Bocheezu
2013-01-08, 03:39 PM
Complete and utter bollocks.

They were working 6 days a week for months and often very long days. You can't keep on doing that and keep your health. You have downtime every now and again.

I could see taking a week off and returning a week later to a more normal working schedule. Taking an entire month off with absolutely no work being done? It probably cost the company millions of dollars in lost players. Millions. No vacation is worth that lost revenue.

And a lot of people would dream to work only 6 days a week/14 hours a day or whatever the hell they work. My cousin is a CPA and during the four months of tax season, the dude usually puts in 100 hours a week.

maradine
2013-01-08, 04:12 PM
My cousin is a CPA and during the four months of tax season, the dude usually puts in 100 hours a week.

Your cousin bills hourly.

Morsong
2013-01-08, 05:56 PM
I am glad we have a strong community for PS2. People such as Hamma, Malorn, and the fantastic devs who listen to us as well gives me hope that within the next six months there should be some substantial updates to PS2. The devs already know that metagame is the biggest thing right now, and I am very curious to see the six-month plan for PS2 that Smedley and Higby will release. All we can do is hope, and that hope remains high for me.