Higby: Thread Upcoming about This Months Update

[Hamma]

https://twitter.com/mhigby/status/288524591905796096

Thoughts/Speculation?

[ETD]

That's sometime in the middle of the night here. Well, gonna read the day after it's posted then.

Still, I'm excited for what they will change. Let's hope that they really listen to our feedback. Also, if i recall correctly they said that the community will get a vote in what will be added next, right?

[Suitepee]

Update 2 had better fix a lot of things, that's all I can say.

[p0intman]

buffing vehicle power, making bases more open (lol?), bringing the original BFRs back, orbital strikes launched from said BFRs.

also hiring a bunch of DICE devs.

Watch. I was pretty much spot on with my pre-beta predictions so far.

[Prometheuss]

What I am really hoping for is defending XP and proper notification of such.

If they want to balance it out there has to be not just team incentive to defending (resos, etc), but also personal XP/cert incentive.

That and what p0intman said would be nice.

[Timealude]

hes gonna give us candy.

[Gammit10]

I hope it has some air to ground balance adjustments, addresses some performance, and the announcement of at least one new feature.

keeping expectations low

[Gammit10]

also hiring a bunch of DICE devs.



Please never say that again. I will hunt you down.

[p0intman]

That and what p0intman said would be nice.
surely you are saying this to troll me. What you should all understand is this: Everything I said I consider as worst case scenario.

[MaxDamage]

This is a thread about a tweet about a thread about an upcoming patch.

These are my thoughts.

[Sledgecrushr]

buffing vehicle power, making bases more open (lol?), bringing the original BFRs back, orbital strikes launched from said BFRs.

also hiring a bunch of DICE devs.

Watch. I was pretty much spot on with my pre-beta predictions so far.

Free ponies for everyone.

[Hamma]

This is a thread about a tweet about a thread about an upcoming patch.

These are my thoughts.

Agreed! :P

[Pella]

1: We fucked up.
2: We didn't listen to the community.
3: We didn't think about a meta game.
4: We took all your monies!
5: We will try and fix things going forward.
6: We hope you still keep us in jobs.

Thats the Truth^

But we will get a picture of some stupid star base to get everyone excited. and some mention of bug fixes they are going to sort out. And a thread filled with people praising Mr Higbys work.

I see this as a prime opportunity to let him know our exact thoughts of what he has created.

[Figment]

News: Soon™ there will be a Soon™ notice! :D

/thread.

[p0intman]

1: We fucked up.
2: We didn't listen to the community.
3: We didn't think about a meta game.
4: We took all your monies!
5: We will try and fix things going forward.
6: We hope you still keep us in jobs.

Thats the Truth^

But we will get a picture of some stupid star base to get everyone excited. and some mention of bug fixes they are going to sort out. And a thread filled with people praising Mr Higbys work.

I see this as a prime opportunity to let him know our exact thoughts of what he has created.

This will never happen because they'd have to admit they were wrong. Thats beyond reasonable to them. SOE doesn't own mistakes. Only incompetence, but even then, rarely.

[Mod]

Bring back the live streamed dev meeting in Higby's office, better than threads ;)

[HolyHandGrenade]

also hiring a bunch of DICE devs.


Please never say that again. I will hunt you down.

@Gammit10: I got your back! Just tell me the time and place bro ;)

But seriously, I'm hoping Higby's post/update/thread/whatever will have some realistic goals and planned fixes/changes that will perhaps calm down the whole PS2 community. I realize PS2 isn't the game everyone wants it to be, but I wholeheartedly think that the current state of this game is not where it will end up.

[ringring]

I think:
Performance patch (already mooted)
Buff to NC in some way

Another 'toy' or two.

Fiddling with some base and outpost structures, a one inch plaster on a twelve inch wound.

But nothing meaningful as I think meaningful stuff will take longer to create. We may perhaps be given a look ahead to the meaningful stuff tho.

[Mox]

Tomorrow heavy shitstorm incoming! :eek:

[Assist]

My wish list:
Base changes
More Meaningful Bases/Continents
Vehicle cost changes
NC MAX NERF
Server Transfers

[Rahabib]

just give us a reasonable roadmap with milestone dates (approx.) of when we can expect things to be implemented. Its not too much to ask. A monthly update isnt going to cut it when you dont address the major larger issues.

[Aaron]

I assume the patch will attempt address the most critical issues we've been vocalizing. The devs are our friends, not our enemies after all. They're probably trying their best to implement this stuff.

[NewSith]

My best guess is, as somebody already mentioned on these boards, the changes will doubtedly be global.

[RSphil]

cant wait to what info he puts up

[Miir]

BFR's!

[Merzun]

-Vanu weapon nerf, maybe reduzed rof
-Mag nerf either less armor or damage

-Lib: zephyr mag size reduzed

-better spawn points that can only be camped by infantry
-closed wall at tower level below spawn

-brought back infantry terminals to towers

-added sitrep channel
-leader channel readable by all players

-secondary gun now always in slot 2 even with grenade launcher equiped

Ui stuff:
-added counter of active mines
-own mines visible on map
-generators, scu and satellite bases including status and ownership are visible below the capture points
-added consumable tab to classscreen where all unlocked consumbles can be bought

[PredatorFour]

-Vanu weapon nerf, maybe reduzed rof
-Mag nerf either less armor or damage

-Lib: zephyr mag size reduzed


Funny how people want the zephyr nerfed yet the worst is the anti tank nose gun ! Seriously a lib with that nose gun wins vehicle combat anytime whether its air or tanks it fights. ALL the libs weapons need looking at.

And VS ??? Dont get me started with them scumbags !;)

[Seafort]

Is this update by Higby today as he tweeted that at about 11pm PST/7am GMT?

Therefore Higby's update will be coming in a few hours, right? :P

[Ghoest9]

1 Rewards added for defending

2 Increased resource cost for Libs

3 Nerfed Zephyr

4 Nerfed or changed ESF Pods.

5 5hanges to flinch code.

6 Minor changes to base set up

7 HOPEFULLY colorblind mode.

[Figment]

Guys (and any girls): Stop. making. wishlists.

Santa isn't coming by till the end of the year again.

They'll be general plans for the next update(s). Not patch note details.



Don't set yourself up for disappointment. :/

[p0intman]

Guys (and any girls): Stop. making. wishlists.

Santa isn't coming by ever again.

They'll be general plans. Not patch notes.
fixed that for you. bah humbug, etc.

[Figment]

fixed that for you. bah humbug, etc.

Saint Nicholas does come by every year and 20 days earlier too! :)

http://www.hm41.nl/sinterklaas/sinterklaas-stoomboot.jpg

PS: Packageboats ftw.

[krnasaur]

AMG a thread about a tweet about a thread!

[Figment]

Let's talk about boats instead.

http://www.almiyachts.com/luxury-boats/img/luxury_boats_mega.jpg

[p0intman]

Let's talk about boats instead.


okay

if planetside 2 were a boat:
http://luedke.me/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/140.jpg

[Fear The Amish]

See i disagree with point and others. Were as you see a failed game i see an amazing framework for one of the best games out there. We have a dev team that except for their vacation have been incredibly vocal and open about development and working with the community. They take a rather heavy min/max approach that i don't entirely agree with but i can never fault them for how it ends up. Yes Defensive bases need to be put in but they are working on it.

Figment is a great example my main problem with him early on wasn't that i disagreed with him it was he was so vehement about the changes i thought it was overly negative. I now know that that he was just looking for discussion and a lot of his idea's are very solid. But i do think this game has a great future we just have to deal with the rocky start until it starts to get fleshed out.

[RSphil]

i agree this game has a good few problems but it is new and suffers the same as any new mmo. things will get better in time. people just need to be patient. ithink it is a lot of players come from stuff like BF3, COd and dont have the experience with large MMO's so dont understand that the game is never finished. good Example is WoW is always broken lol. and thats been out for years. just enjoy planetside 2 for what it is now and you will enjoy it more and more when stuff is fixed.

[Figment]

Figment is a great example my main problem with him early on wasn't that i disagreed with him it was he was so vehement about the changes i thought it was overly negative. I now know that that he was just looking for discussion and a lot of his idea's are very solid. But i do think this game has a great future we just have to deal with the rocky start until it starts to get fleshed out.

I'm just blunt, picky (with a detailed thoughtout vision) and generally stubborn.

Better dutch traits you won't find anywhere else, aside from the love for all things cheese (edit: as long as it's not french cheese, goat cheese or sheep cheese. Those are to be in the category fungus.). :)




Also. Boats. Dutch boats. Classic. :)

http://bataviawillemvos.nl/batavia.jpg

[Figment]

i agree this game has a good few problems but it is new and suffers the same as any new mmo. things will get better in time. people just need to be patient. ithink it is a lot of players come from stuff like BF3, COd and dont have the experience with large MMO's so dont understand that the game is never finished. good Example is WoW is always broken lol. and thats been out for years. just enjoy planetside 2 for what it is now and you will enjoy it more and more when stuff is fixed.

I think you'll find that here, on PSU and a lot on the official forums specifically, players use one particular MMO as the benchmark to judge things by. On every level.

So if it's not up to par, it's immediately pitchfork and torches. And that's mostly because we feel beta should officially have continued till it was on par too, because a launch gives the impression of being pretty much on the level of game play they want to go for in the long run.


EDIT: edited for boats. :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZC61L_KV7IE/TRLU8nNt9GI/AAAAAAAAADg/pCjAWdsFyfg/s1600/dingy.jpg

[Pella]

I assume the patch will attempt address the most critical issues we've been vocalizing. The devs are our friends, not our enemies after all. They're probably trying their best to implement this stuff.

So why give us a game that we didnt want/Desrve. Putting FTP infront of it gives them an excuse to call it a AAA title.

[The Jamhead]

Were as you see a failed game i see an amazing framework for one of the best games out there.

I couldn't agree more. There is so much potential in this game it is unreal. Sure, the current game is fairly limited but - certainly on Lithcorp server - the battles are frequent, intense and have an insanely epic feel about them. Everyone has their wishlist, everyone has an opinion on what will make a great game truly outstanding. The developers seem to be listening, and are no doubt making strides internally to put these ideas into place.

The issue the developers have is that the game playing masses these days want perfection out of the box, if not before, and if they don't get it then they jump onto the next big thing.

For me, Planetside 2 is the most fun I've had from a PC game ever. I will continue to plough money into this game for as long as it remains fun, for as long as the developers continue to listen, and for as long as the community remains. I cannot wait to see the roadmap for the next 3/6/12 months.

[SpottyGekko]

A few weeks ago, Smed was promising a "major" performance improvement patch early in January. That will probably be a headline item.

Balance tweaks and bugfixes are to be expected.

I'd expect some news or even partial roll-out of the much-discussed "mission system". Whatever happened to that, anyway ?

But I don't expect any dramatic changes this early after launch. Creating a meaningful metagame is not going to happen overnight. It will be a delicate balancing act, because I'd imagine SOE wants to keep the game as attractive as possible for casual solo'ers, because a steady flow of those will keep the money rolling in far more than "mature" BR50+ players.

If PS2 gains a reputation as a heavily group-centered game, it will discourage a large amount of potential new customers. And the spending rate of new players will always be much higher than veterans who've bought their "essential" first 5 items. Those vets are far more likely to save up certs for further purchases than to dip into their wallets to "get it now".

[PredatorFour]

okay

if planetside 2 were a boat:
http://luedke.me/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/140.jpg

If it were a boat i'd of gone for this ;
http://i47.tinypic.com/e10ma.jpg




..Only messing .... things aint got that bad ...yet ;)

[Figment]

No no no no no. Space cruise ship.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/images-projectors-q4-07/MovieMate_72_5thElement_cruise_large.jpg

[Gammit10]

This will never happen because they'd have to admit they were wrong. Thats beyond reasonable to them. SOE doesn't own mistakes. Only incompetence, but even then, rarely.

I also hear they torture kittens and shoot fire from their collective ass.

[PredatorFour]

Game has potential but needs to get moving in the right direction ???
http://i48.tinypic.com/120o10j.jpg

[VaderShake]

It needs a few years and a new paint Job, maybe blue and yellow..

Statement! Marine 50' Catamaran - YouTube

[Phantomdestiny]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-72-SnvlD9M8den0JwN0cSJ-UeO_l0FJQUIKcWDMivVzqLENANvIS51m-

[hashish]

Ah i just wish they adress the frame rate, add the metagame and change a couple things that need changing :)

Will be soooooo let down if its just a basic bug fix thing :(

[ringring]

Ah i just wish they adress the frame rate, add the metagame and change a couple things that need changing :)

Will be soooooo let down if its just a basic bug fix thing :(
I reckon that's a pretty big ask for only a couple of weeks since the last patch.

[NewSith]

Ah i just wish they adress the frame rate, add the metagame and change a couple things that need changing :)

Will be soooooo let down if its just a basic bug fix thing :(

Well it will include some gameplay changes, that's for sure, I can even bet, that base redesigns will take place, but it's just that people should not expect anything radical or cardinal.


Also, this is Darth Vader's own Executor. You're screwed.
http://starforge.info/data/uploads/imperial-ships/executor-class-star-destroyer-2.jpg

[maradine]

Pretty sure that gets blown the fuck up. :D

My contribution to this grave topic:

http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/ships/ships-japan/ijn-kitakami-torpedo-cruiser.png

KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA KITA . . .

[Ghoest9]

If its a January patch I suspect the thread will be fairly specific.

Not exact details but it will probably mention what types of changes are coming as opposed to simply saying stuff like "air will be toned down" or "base defense will be encouraged.'

[Phantomdestiny]

I reckon that's a pretty big ask for only a couple of weeks since the last patch.

they started testing the frame rate patch during mid-end beta but they said they need like a month to test it properly and that i would release as soon as tested so it is very likely that we get that patch this month specially with the 25th of january event when "console" gamers are gone join with toby and seananners

[Figment]

Game has potential but needs to get moving in the right direction ???
http://i48.tinypic.com/120o10j.jpg

Derailed boat is NC. :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a138/CaptainCox/unternehmen_petticoat_12.jpg

[Chewy]

Im seeing a lot of ships in a topic about boats here.

[hashish]

I reckon that's a pretty big ask for only a couple of weeks since the last patch.

Yea fair enough, i dont expect everything to be fixed and tons of aspects added. But it would atleast be nice if they are more specific and transparent on future plans and the direction that planetside 2 is heading in. This needs to be discussed in more detail now and communication is key.

[Hamma]

More updates from Smed

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/288727189397061634

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/288727352777797634

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/288727460147757056

[Fear The Amish]

oops forgot to add my boat picture...

http://images.wikia.com/empiresandallies/images/4/41/German-u-boat.jpg

and mine really is a boat...

[Figment]

Im seeing a lot of ships in a topic about boats here.

Where's your boat pix?



We took these (back) once.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/HanSime/Forum%20Pics/Medway_01.jpg (http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/HanSime/Forum%20Pics/Medway_01.jpg)

EDIT: Damnit Hamma, I see images, but where's your boat pix? D:

[Rahabib]

I just hope we arent in this boat with PS2 for the next few months:
http://www.photo-dictionary.com/photofiles/list/479/859boat.jpg
or worse yet:
http://catalinawinemixer.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/sinking-ship.jpg

[dorgo]

They might rewrite it with about 10 years work

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o101/dorgo/Costa-Concordia-cruise-sh-007.jpg

[Rivenshield]

This thread makes me sad. :(

[Figment]

oops forgot to add my boat picture...

http://images.wikia.com/empiresandallies/images/4/41/German-u-boat.jpg

and mine really is a boat...

It's got holes in it!


No wonder it sinks.


http://catalinawinemixer.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/sinking-ship.jpg

We could try to salvage it with the Giant 4. :)
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/3436706/800/Anonymous/giant-4-1.jpg

[maradine]

Hate to kill this boatfest, but . . .

http://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/288728405862666240

[PredatorFour]

Ah my favourite boat.........

I hope PS 2 turns out like this !
http://i45.tinypic.com/264nhjo.jpg

[Boomzor]

It's a great ship, if it weren't for the things that are backwards and upside down.

http://www.jimusnr.com/PoseidonPic2.jpg

[NewSith]

I hope it's not gonna be something innovative, like

http://www.axgig.com/images/91281719771672169899.jpg

[Chewy]

Where's your boat pix?



We took these (back) once.

(pic snip)

EDIT: Damnit Hamma, I see images, but where's your boat pix? D:

A man that can not float learns to stay the fuck out of water.

[Bloodmode]

So we have to wait for information on an update we'll have to wait for. Great. Top notch.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

So why give us a game that we didnt want/Desrve. Putting FTP infront of it gives them an excuse to call it a AAA title.

Because if they released it in 2013, it wouldn't win a billion awards from 2012 and get the AAA "buzz" they wanted before christmas.

[Hamma]

Enough with the boats already guys.

[Legolas]

edit - huh? no more boats? Aww... I had a Kraken.


*DELETED*

[ringring]

Enough with the boats already guys.
Hamma sticks his oar in!

We're holed beneath the waterline lads, swim for it!

[EVILPIG]

Hamma sticks his oar in!

We're holed beneath the waterline lads, swim for it!

Don't even speak of boats anymore, or you'll be up shit creek without a paddle.

[Figment]

Watch out Hillfort, he'll use one of them swampboats on that there creek!

(Aww Hamma, you really want them to speculate for a week on the long term plans? You know how that'll end!)

[OCNSethy]

Thanks Hamma for posting this up. Regardless how this ends up, at least we can count on you to keep us up to date.

[Brutal Magikarp]

Sorry for boat picture, but I felt this is the most accurate. In all seriousness.


http://floridamemory.com/fpc/folklife/fa5439.jpg

[Malorn]

This is the correct boat for PS2.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vvAhyR-6PAM/TDaLic0Yo_I/AAAAAAAAFdE/T9q9WGO9Xkc/s1600/81168.jpg

PS2 is prepared to handle whatever roads, rivers, bridges, and oceans come its way.

[Roy Awesome]

I want an air boat that I can crew with 15-20 people

[VGCS]

This is the correct boat for PS2.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vvAhyR-6PAM/TDaLic0Yo_I/AAAAAAAAFdE/T9q9WGO9Xkc/s1600/81168.jpg

PS2 is prepared to handle whatever roads, rivers, bridges, and oceans come its way.

would take this over my Reaver any day

[Figment]

This is the correct boat for PS2.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vvAhyR-6PAM/TDaLic0Yo_I/AAAAAAAAFdE/T9q9WGO9Xkc/s1600/81168.jpg

PS2 is prepared to handle whatever roads, rivers, bridges, and oceans come its way.

Not until you make water continents! :p

[Crator]

This is the correct boat for PS2.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vvAhyR-6PAM/TDaLic0Yo_I/AAAAAAAAFdE/T9q9WGO9Xkc/s1600/81168.jpg

PS2 is prepared to handle whatever roads, rivers, bridges, and oceans come its way.

Intercontinental travel mechanic, could it be? ;)

[Figment]

Maybe he meant the next patch is British. :)

[MuNrOe]

This is the correct boat for PS2.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vvAhyR-6PAM/TDaLic0Yo_I/AAAAAAAAFdE/T9q9WGO9Xkc/s1600/81168.jpg

PS2 is prepared to handle whatever roads, rivers, bridges, and oceans come its way.

Thats the PS1 Boat

Then this happened
http://www.stkildamarina.net.au/wp-content/uploads/sinking-boat.jpg

[Hamma]

Closing this since the post has been made ;)