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OCNSethy
2013-01-09, 12:33 AM
Im just tossing around whether I should use a Walker for my prowler or should I just stick with the default Basilisk?

As an AA weapon, which is better, do you think?

Quadron
2013-01-09, 12:49 AM
As far as the g30 goes, it rips through esfs in less than 1 second if they are close. So yes, go with the g30.

maradine
2013-01-09, 12:55 AM
Does it operate differently on ground vehicles vs. in an air turret configuration? My experience with the walker on galaxies and liberators has been very underwhelming.

Helwyr
2013-01-09, 01:03 AM
Does it operate differently on ground vehicles vs. in an air turret configuration? My experience with the walker on galaxies and liberators has been very underwhelming.

My understanding was the Air version got slightly buffed recently, so how ever good or bad (I too hear really bad) the Air version is, the ground version is worse.

I'd also say Quadron (Guy with a Reaver in his sig) isn't being very honest here.. "Rip through an ESF in less than 1 second" lol

Brusi
2013-01-09, 01:08 AM
It's pretty terrible...

It needs a much higher RoF if it is going to be even remotely easy to track fast moving aircraft and land multiple hits.

That said, it's got pretty decent damage VS ESF's, should you in fact manage to hit.

If you look at dedicated AA ground units such as Dual-Burster MAX Units and Skyguard Lightning Tanks as a deterrent and not a hard-counter to Aircraft (as Higby has said), then it makes the G30 Walkers place on the food chain pretty clear.

Perhaps better than other weapons available in that slot at hitting Aircraft, but not even meant to be as dangerous as to be seen as a deterrent.

I personally think the basilisk is probably still a better 2nd'ary for MBT's.

Sunrock
2013-01-09, 01:45 AM
The walker was good for the prowler in beta.... Not so mush anymore.

The Basilisk is a quite good weapons for the prowler TBH. But yea the G30 Vulkan is the best you can get. Wish it had medium range instead of short though :D

Boomzor
2013-01-09, 03:45 AM
Here's a novel idea: Use the trial, equip it and try it out for your self.

Now, personally I find it sub par at what it's supposed to do - kill or scare off air.
It's just not happening unless you stumble upon a stupid or really careless pilot.

Add that to the fact you're giving up a slot for what could be a decent AV or AI weapon and you'll just regret buying it.
In its current incarnation, you're better off with the default 2:ndary gun and put your SC or Certs to better use elsewhere.

Eggy
2013-01-09, 07:42 AM
The G30 Walker (prowler) is worse than the A30 Walker available on the aircraft. Its not worth buying or using.
TBH with the Skyguard in the game im not even sure why they bothered adding a dedicated AA turret to the MBTs.


The Basalisk (prowler version) is a good all round weapon, in the hands of a competent gunner (with a scope and clip size upgrades) it will do "ok" damage VS ESFs at short to mid range and can also pepper them at long range. Its zero use at very long range.
Given a choice between Basalisk and Walker on my prowler I would take Basalisk every time.

The g30 Vulcan is a beast at very short/short range. It shreds any armour you point it at. ESFs, libs, and galaxys that get that close to a tank die (why they get that close to a tank , I have no clue). You can pepper targets at medium range to annoy them and at long, very long range its useless. Its also pretty bad versus soft targets.

Misato
2013-01-09, 11:57 AM
If you can get a good gunner for the G30 Walker (one that knows how to lead the shots), then yes it can be a great way to handle ESF but its only useful when you are not contending infantry or armor at the same time which is rare. You can easily take down ESF with teh G30 Walker as its the only secondary gun for the MBT that can aim straight up. I also think it catches pilots off guard when they start their run to take you down from a distance, because lets face it, a majority of the secondary gunners kind are like blah. So if you have a dedicated gunner that is awesome then sure, I have taken down my fair share of ESF with the Walker for the Prowler, but as I said just really make sure if you use it you are not contending with enemy Armor or Infantry. Other than that, stick wit the default secondary weapon. It is a good all around weapon capable of dealing damage to anything it seems.

However, I do love the Vulcan. The Vulcan will light up in ESF if they are within range, but also note it is limited in aiming in the up direction.

OCNSethy
2013-01-09, 02:38 PM
Thats for the input guys - much appreciated. Ill stick with the default Basilisk then.

Btw Boomzor, I did trial it but I wanted the community's opinion. Thats why I asked. :)

Sunrock
2013-01-09, 08:56 PM
Thats for the input guys - much appreciated. Ill stick with the default Basilisk then.

Btw Boomzor, I did trial it but I wanted the community's opinion. Thats why I asked. :)

BTW make sure to pimp out the ammo capacity for it. Your gunner is going to empty it after 2 tank kills other wise.

Rothnang
2013-01-10, 04:19 AM
The walkers damage is substantial, it just has a very slow bullet and a pretty low rate of fire, so shooting one aircraft from another aircraft in it is not exactly easy.

At close range a good gunner can absolutely wreck ESFs with a Walker, but by the time you can reliably hit a fighter with the walker you might as well just hit them with a Bulldog.

Rolfski
2013-01-10, 11:46 AM
I hate the G30 walker for my Prowler. I would trade it for a Max Burster-like weapon any time. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know what better to equip on a Prowler against air atm.

Anti-air should not be about low ROF, precision aiming and low bullet velocity, it just doesn't make any sense.
Anti air is either lock-on missiles or high ROF, high bullet velocity, low area of effect damage.

maradine
2013-01-10, 12:12 PM
I hate the G30 walker for my Prowler. I would trade it for a Max Burster-like weapon any time. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know what better to equip on a Prowler against air atm.



You bring up an interesting point - is a single burster a viable tank-top weapon? I'd like to see them try it.

Rolfski
2013-01-10, 01:30 PM
Burster is the only G2A weapon that works atm, so a single (dual would be OP) Burster as a secondary would be a well balanced deterrent solution for any tank. People would throw tons of Smedbucks at it if they would release it.
The Skyguard on the Lightning should perform the same as dual Bursters btw.

maradine
2013-01-10, 01:49 PM
No argument there.

Sunrock
2013-01-10, 03:43 PM
The Skyguard on the Lightning should perform the same as dual Bursters btw.

Did I not read in a patch note back in dec. some time that they buffed the skyguard to be as potent as a burster?

Anyway re: skyguard. I think the main problem is that you are shooting it from the side of the screen making it not line up with the crosshair exactly witch means you need aim a bit to the side making it IMO unnecessarily hard to hit your target.

PS: The skyguard really needs a 10% damage boost.

maradine
2013-01-10, 03:52 PM
I reserve judgement until I see what they meant by "accuracy changes". It's definitely better than it used to be.

Other opinions on "put a burster on a tank"?