It feels like they kidding us..

[SyrokX]

Good morning everyone..
first, my english isnt the best, but i hope u all understand the message...

This is not a thread to cry about the game, its more a question i ask my self..
a fact that i need to accept...but it sucks...

Maybe someone could see that fact too?

in every communityforum u can read, "oh my god, the dev team play at the VS"
in every video u can see the VS is play'd..

but ok, we all know this...

what i wanna say here is,
i play ps2 since the Final Relaese on the EU-Ceres server, most time my platoon is on Indar.
dont remember who sayd "lets start with the TR", i would knock him -.- .. but ok, it is so..
we wont change to VS or NC..theres to much money in our chars.. and .. the TR isnt so bad!
only the others have to be balanced...

sorry guys..now, what i really wanna say,
on friday it was the 8!!!! time since i played PS2 the Vanus was holding just 15% of Indar and the NC about 25%..looks like the TR got chance to get the controll about indar .. for the first time! on ceres, no one got the controll about indar since release!..
so the interessting thing, and my question...
WHAT IS THE FU**ING REASON THAT THE SERVER GET DOWN EVERYTIME WHEN THE VANUS AER LOOSING ??????
8 ! fu**ing times, the only 8 chances for the TR to get Indar and the server get down..not for a few .. for all! and instant online again..

ok..u think...........shure..................ok......... .....
looking to get fast back online and go to the south to hold the line...but its hopeless... 20 mins later, the line is the same as everytime... Quartzridgecamp--tiallyos--zurvanamp--nsmaterial ....

honestly, at the 8.time u dont think its a accident...

So, flame me...

[NewSith]

...And Miller NC are always overrun by VS and TR on Indar, they rarely have any base, except Tawrich, that is getting constantly contested still...


From my perspective - NC are undepowered and TR holding more than half of the territory are obviously OP. Touche

[Phantomdestiny]

TR owns every single continent on miller right now . so i disagree OP

[Sturmhardt]

TR is not really allowed to cry op on anything if you ask me. Vs and tr weaponry are both a little op if you ask me... Buy as nc my view is biased.

.sent via phone.

[Mox]

I think there was once a thread about a exploit which can be used to crash the server. I dont know if it is still possible.

[Phantomdestiny]

I think there was once a thread about a exploit which can be used to crash the server. I dont know if it is still possible.

they fixed it

[ringring]

TR is not really allowed to cry op on anything if you ask me. Vs and tr weaponry are both a little op if you ask me... Buy as nc my view is biased.

.sent via phone.

OP is relative.....

As TR I think VS is a little OP and NC a little UP.

This is based on the the make up of the leaderboards and my subjective assessment of the territory owned.

However, apart from saying that VS get the best tank again I couldn't identify a weapon to clearly OP in itself (No, my NC friends, not even the Carv).

[SeraphC]

It's not just your English that's bad. It's your writing in general.

for the first time! on ceres, no one got the controll about indar since release!

This is false. TR owned Indar about a month ago when I first started playing. It got reset either due to some downtime or due to a half asses cap attempt by another faction. I don't know.

It's not just the TR who lack organisation on Ceres. You have the same problem with every faction. No major, organized outfits, no leadership at a faction level. Very little smaller outfits stepping up and doing something meaningful.

[Tatwi]

It's not just your English that's bad. It's your writing in general.



This is false. TR owned Indar about a month ago(missing comma) when I first started playing. It got reset either due to some downtime or due to a half asses cap attempt by another faction. (That was a very poorly structured sentence) I don't know.

It's not just the TR who lack organisation on Ceres. You (should have been a comma, not a new sentence. Also using the personal "you" instead of the proper "one") have the same problem with every faction. No major, organized outfits, (should have been "and") no leadership at a faction level. Very little (should have been "few", as little does not fit this context) smaller outfits stepping up and doing something meaningful.

Next time you think about slamming someone else for their use of the English language, perhaps you should consider your own imperfect mastery of it. English is not the native language for all people in the world, nor is it mastered by most who claim it as their native tongue, both of which are perfectly fine; Stop being an Internet snob.

[NewSith]

Next time you think about slamming someone else for their use of the English language, perhaps you should consider your own imperfect mastery of it. English is not the native language for all people in the world, nor is it mastered by most who claim it as their native tongue, both of which are perfectly fine; Stop being an Internet snob.

Man, where have you been on saturday, when I nearly managed to fail my English grammar exam :(

[ShadetheDruid]

English is not the native language for all people in the world, nor is it mastered by most who claim it as their native tongue, both of which are perfectly fine; Stop being an Internet snob.

..organisation..

Are you also aware that American English isn't the native dialect for everyone in the world? If you're going to call someone out for being a snob, that's a silly mistake to make.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

Yeah. Nothing wrong with organisation. After all, Americans didn't invent English. They just mutated it.

Anyway, OP, the TR overwhelmingly dominate Indar on Briggs. NC and VS fight over Amerish a lot and probably share it 60/40. Esamir probably 40/60 NC/VS.

Having said that, the TR did hold all 3 at the same time at least once and are (I think) the only faction to have done that on Briggs.

TR = winning (somehow. Appeals to a more organised mind?)
VS = Ok. Seems their weapons suit my personal playstyle better but I wouldn't say OP in general.
NC = UP. We only win because nobody else turns up on Esamir and Amerish.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

Yeah. Nothing wrong with organisation. After all, Americans didn't invent English. They just mutated it.

Anyway, OP, the TR overwhelmingly dominate Indar on Briggs. NC and VS fight over Amerish a lot and probably share it 60/40. Esamir probably 40/60 NC/VS.

Having said that, the TR did hold all 3 at the same time at least once and are (I think) the only faction to have done that on Briggs.

TR = winning (somehow. Appeals to a more organised mind?)
VS = Ok. Seems their weapons suit my personal playstyle better but I wouldn't say OP in general.
NC = UP. We only win because nobody else turns up on Esamir and Amerish.

[SeraphC]

Next time you think about slamming someone else for their use of the English language, perhaps you should consider your own imperfect mastery of it. English is not the native language for all people in the world, nor is it mastered by most who claim it as their native tongue, both of which are perfectly fine; Stop being an Internet snob.

I know my mastery of it is imperfect. I know I misplace coma's and still make mistakes like using "little" when "few" is correct. I appreciate the corrections by the way. English is not my native language and therefore I welcome any input that will allow me to perfect it.

However you cannot compare my posts with his. Nor does this have anything to do with the mastery of the English language. Look at his post. He's not even trying. Several points at random places in his text, new lines everywhere, no capitals, ... Those are all things that have nothing to do with a specific language. I've seen writing like that before, mostly it comes from kids who couldn't care less about writing correctly and when in school spend more time throwing things at their teachers than actually paying attention and learning something.

What was wrong with "organisation" by the way? The "asses" instead of "assed" was probably firefox flagging it as incorrect and me not paying attention.

Feel free to go over my post again.

[Babyfark McGeez]

Don't misplace your coma, man. :p

[Baneblade]

I dunno, my k/d on my TR and VS alts both are higher than my NC main... *shrug*

[Gatekeeper]

Based on my experience playing as VS on Cobalt, the TR are always the biggest threat and give us the toughest time, whereas we definitely seem to have a little less trouble from the NC and they win continents noticeably less often.

I see a lot more Mosquitoes flying than Reavers, and they seem more effective. Not sure about the balance of Prowlers versus Vanguards, but man those Prowlers move fast and that does seem to get them out of trouble pretty well - whereas I'm a lot less sure what the advantage of the Vanny is supposed to be.

Also the high fire-rate on TR weapons makes flinching a real problem against them, whereas the NC fire even slower than we do.

The one area where the NC have an apparent advantage is probably AI MAXs - I see a lot more SplatterMAXs than Heavy Cyclers or Quasars.

[ShadetheDruid]

whereas I'm a lot less sure what the advantage of the Vanny is supposed to be.

They take less damage from the front (I believe it's 75% damage, compared to the 90% of the other two).

[Gatekeeper]

They take less damage from the front (I believe it's 75% damage, compared to the 90% of the other two).

Ah, that sounds fair enough then. No idea if it balances out in practice, but the concept seems solid.

[Calisai]

It seems like each server is different and probably has a lot more to do with population imbalances and organized outfits than any true OP/UP arguments.

On Mattherson, Indar is almost always a back and forth threeway... and is usually only capped by VS/TR, but tends to only flip during non-primetime... with the other two conts being capped pretty frequently by NC.

You really can't use territory or continent locks as a measure of over or under powered.

A couple smaller very mobile well-organized outfits can take a whole lot of territory... allowing the zerg to focus and overpower the opposing strongholds (with the big fights) and not be distracted by the small little outposts.

This also means that those outfits are suffering from small boring ghost caps, but that's they price they pay for wanting the acclaim of being able to cap a continent.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

I dunno, my k/d on my TR and VS alts both are higher than my NC main... *shrug*

When I'm footing it and not liberating people....


^ & Score/min, certs/hour, weapon accuracy (you can see it as a hit% per weapon. NC is mid-high 20s, TR is low 30s, VS is high 30s depending on the weapon) resources/hour. Pretty much everything.

[mcFlaw]

Uhhh... why am I getting the feeling that I'm the only one who actually managed to understand what the OP (as in Original Poster, not OverPowered) tried to say?

He didn't say anything about the balance between the factions.

He was insinuating that SOEs media coverage of Planetside2 indicates that all the devs play as Vanu, and that they are intentionally crashing servers to keep other factions from conquering Vanu held continents. Indar on his server to be precise. How he managed to have such a good grasp of SOEs media coverage and still miss Higbys existence is beyond me, but anyway.

As proof he mentions that his server has crashed the last 8 times his faction (TR) was close to capturing Indar, the continent almost always controlled by Vanu.

I honestly don't think that notion is even worth commenting. I'm just curious why everyone started talking about faction balance in their replies to him. ;)

Actually, to be _completely_ honest, I only wrote this reply for the chance to write a bunch of fancy text and see if you guys can find all my mistakes in it! :D
Tatwi's reply made me laugh out loud. Love those counter critiques!

Oh, and my mother tongue is not English either, sorry about that.
Also, I'm dead tired. If this post comes off as satirical or anything, it was not my intention. Please read it in a friendly, curious and sincere voice for maximal elimination of misscommunication.

TL.DR; Please feel free to ignore this post ;)

[MrBloodworth]

Any faction that is not my faction is the faction the developers favor. How do I know? Bicycles.

[Qwan]

ON my server the NC have held Indar forever, The VS hold Esimar and the TR well they sometimes get Esimar, as far as amerish it switches back and forth from the TR. Maybe your server is haunted or somting, I think my server is pretty well balanced sometimes, it just depends on the time of day that you log on. FYI its a Euro server, and I live on the eastcoast.

[EVILPIG]

While the OP seems to allude to TR being just ok, I believe everyone has missed his point. He's not complaining about balance. It seems he feels that most Devs play VS and when the VS start to lose they do a server reset.

That is what I interpreted.

As for the balance discussion, it's pretty simple.

VS has the best vehicles.
TR has the best infantry weaponry.
NC has the best MAX.

I'd even rate it as such:

MBT: VS>TR~NC
Air: VS>TR>NC
Infantry weapons: TR>VS>NC
MAX: NC>TR>VS

[Qvilz]

What are you talking about? TR can hold all 3 continents without any problems. Go find an outfit and plan your actions together. Of course any faction will loose with seperated people fighting against organised platoons. Go look at Mallory, almost no cooperation there compairing to Miller/Woodman. So don't complain about balance. It's not perfect but it is possible to win.

P.S. It is funny that you think they would crash servers for territory control. No, really. lol

[Stellarthief]

Uhhh... why am I getting the feeling that I'm the only one who actually managed to understand what the OP (as in Original Poster, not OverPowered) tried to say?

He didn't say anything about the balance between the factions.

He was insinuating that SOEs media coverage of Planetside2 indicates that all the devs play as Vanu, and that they are intentionally crashing servers to keep other factions from conquering Vanu held continents. Indar on his server to be precise. How he managed to have such a good grasp of SOEs media coverage and still miss Higbys existence is beyond me, but anyway.

As proof he mentions that his server has crashed the last 8 times his faction (TR) was close to capturing Indar, the continent almost always controlled by Vanu.

I honestly don't think that notion is even worth commenting. I'm just curious why everyone started talking about faction balance in their replies to him. ;)

Actually, to be _completely_ honest, I only wrote this reply for the chance to write a bunch of fancy text and see if you guys can find all my mistakes in it! :D
Tatwi's reply made me laugh out loud. Love those counter critiques!

Oh, and my mother tongue is not English either, sorry about that.
Also, I'm dead tired. If this post comes off as satirical or anything, it was not my intention. Please read it in a friendly, curious and sincere voice for maximal elimination of misscommunication.

TL.DR; Please feel free to ignore this post ;)


You win the thread.

[Rumblepit]

the other day, just for fun myself and a few outfit mates were putting a sundy inside a bio lab. yes inside the bio lab...... we discovered that players can still crash the server. not going to say how but we crashed everyone that was in the same location.then we reported the bug. this being said, im 100% sure other outfits are still using this tactic to get the upper hand. in fact it was last night we were farming allatum for hours then all of out of the blue 90% of the people there crashed and by the time we got back 2 points belong to the enemy and the gen was about to go.


its not the devs crashing the server, its other players that are sore losers that are crashing it.

[Soothsayer]

Any faction that is not my faction is the faction the developers favor. How do I know? Bicycles.

That's the old Planetside we all know and love! I just wish they would do something about all the hackers that only ever play VS and NC.