PlanetSide 2 Roadmap Announced

[NewSith]

We are pleased to announce additional forum features will become available shortly in order to support the upcoming Roadmap program. You will have the opportunity to voice your opinion on how important a particular topic is and let us know how you feel. We look forward to hearing from you.
http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/new-forum-features.83644/


...and the launch didn't went so smooth it seems:

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/294838927485964288

[Tikuto]

lold

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-planetside-2-roadmap-announced-2940.htm

[wasdie]

aaaaaand roadmap is down.

lol

[maradine]

Four oh threeeeee'd

[J Baley]

I can't stop laughing...

[ShadetheDruid]

This is why we can't have nice things, everyone breaks them instantly when we do. :p

[wasdie]

Quick summer of my impressions of the roadmap: this game is going to change dramatically soon. I've yet to decide if it's for the better.

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside2.com/roadmap

Full URL

[Tatwi]

This is why we can't have nice things, everyone breaks them instantly when we do. :p

We folks with young children are used to it.

[Meecrob]

Hmmmm interlink facilities..... I see the impregnable fortress is going to make its comeback :p

[Eyeklops]

Did you get a chance to mirror the Roadmap data Hamma? Wondering if you can post it on the PSU forums.

[Bear]

No new continents until March? Well that SUCKS!

[Phantomdestiny]

can anyone post the info here ? it doesn't seem to load

[wasdie]

Ok, I think the game is going in the right direction in the next 6 months. I wish there were 2 continents being released, but that's just what I wish.

[Simo]

can anyone post the info here ? it doesn't seem to load

Same. Won't load for me.

[Bear]

For those that can't access the page, here's a cut and paste from the page:

January - SMGs

We want to add a new weapon type, the Submachine Gun (SMG), to the game. The current plan is to make them accessible to all classes outside of the MAX Stats on the individual weapons will vary... Read More

January - Rendering Distance Based on Threat

We want to mitigate the impact of render distance on enemies that are a direct threat. For example, anyone that pilots air vehicles can probably attest to how lame it is to get shot down by AA players... Read More

January - Spawn Room Tunnel System

In our ongoing effort to mitigate spawn camping, we're planning on adding some spawn room tunnel networks to provide additional escape paths. The current plan is to add these to all Tech Plants and... Read More

January - Window Plugs

We are making windows all across Auraxis’ bases and facilities smaller, so it should be tougher for tanks and planes to shoot into buildings.

January - Tower Redesign

The layout of towers will be altered to include more shields and an additional exit from the spawn room. The hope is to make spawn camping in the towers a more difficult proposition.


January - More secure spawn rooms at small outposts

This entails adding more windows and doors, as well as a canopy to protect against aircraft. This should make spawn camping more difficult and will be present across all small outposts.


January - Destroying the SCU only penalizes Spawn Timers

Currently, destroying an Spawn Control Unit (SCU) completely removes that Spawn point from the facility until it is repaired. Unfortunately this can have the effect of ending a fight too quickly and... Read More


January - Creating "No Deploy" zones for AMS equipped Sunderers

We are currently discussing mechanics which would allow designers to designate areas within a base or facility that Sunderers cannot deploy in. The initial use of this ability will be to disallow... Read More


January - Defender Only Jump Pads

In an effort to help support general defense at facilities, we’re exploring the idea of having jump pads which allow players to quickly traverse the walls only be usable by the Empire in control of... Read More


January - Player Invincibility on Spawn

Getting killed right as you spawn in is not fun. One of the things we can do to try and reduce frustration on that front is add a very brief period of invulnerability to a player in that situation.... Read More

January - Experience Source Display Improvements

We want to display the total Experience bonus percentage rewarded whenever you get the applicable experience. Currently this would show as a small popup next to your Cert point display right above the... Read More

January - Experience Incentives

The idea behind this Incentive system is that higher “priority” targets are worth more experience than others. So killing someone on a wicked kill streak nets you more XP than killing someone... Read More


February - Empire Specific Rocket Launchers

We would like to add Empire-specific rocket launchers, including things like player guided rockets, multiple lock-on swarm missiles, and a charge fire mode into the mix.

\February - Vehicle Update: Flash

We want to add new abilities and weapons to the Flash. Current ideas include: Adding additional weapon types Wraith (cloaking the quad) option for infiltrators We're still brainstorming, so call out... Read More

February - Pump Action Shotguns

We would like to add a new weapon type, the Pump Action Shotgun. These shotguns fill a similar role to the existing semi-auto’s already in game, but trade rate of fire for increased damage.


February - VR Training Area

Learning how to play the game under live fire conditions can be pretty daunting. To help address this, we’re planning on adding in a VR Training zone that will be a safe haven for players to try out... Read More


February - Orbital Strike

Orbital Strikes are intended to help push enemy players out of an area by turning that area into a series of large explosions. Players should have enough warning time to potentially escape the area,... Read More


February - Spectator Mode

We would like to add Spectator Mode for live gameplay observation.

Last updated - Wednesday at 10:08 AM by JGood

February - Regional Empire Priority System

The intent for this system is to allow the game to set "priority level" for regions based on what activities are taking place there. These areas would come with score/XP bonuses to encourage fights in... Read More


February - Loadout Screen Revamp

We want to take a pass at cleaning up and enhancing the Loadout screen. Specifics are still pending, but the goal is to make common actions more convenient. For example: Changing tints on your... Read More


February - Community Grief Reporting

We're investigating ways to improve the reporting tools available to the PlanetSide 2 community at large to help identify and call out hackers and other griefers. This would include things like being... Read More

February - Daily Medals/Achievements

We'd like to add in daily achievements/medals for weapons and tools which could include things like: "Kill 10 enemies with the CARV" or "Revive 10 allies with Revive Grenades" would net Experience or... Read More


February - Account Level Unlocks

We would like items purchased with Station Cash to be unlocked across all characters on the account who can utilize them. This change would be retroactive to prior purchases.


February - Increase the number of vehicle cosmetic slots

We offer a bunch of sweet cosmetic customizations for vehicles, but we only let you equip them one at a time. We'd like to add additional slots that will let you equip multiple customizations on your... Read More


February - Separate Score from Experience

At the moment experience and score are tied too closely together, so if you buff your experience, you end up buffing your score as well. That’s misleading and not really fulfilling the intention for... Read More


February - Improved Item Preview

We want to add the ability to preview an item on the player’s current Loadout for their class/vehicle so everyone can get a better idea of what it's really going to look like in context. This... Read More

March - MAX Flamethrowers

A new weapon type for MAX suits, the Flamethrower will be designed to inflict sustained damage against soft targets.

March - Continent Locking

In order to start laying the foundation for a proper metagame, we've been putting a lot of thought into continent locking. There are a lot of little snags and details still to work out, but the basic... Read More

March - Tutorial

We would like to improve and expand the in-game tutorial by adding guided interactive training elements to VR training zone. Current plans include tutorials for: Basic Intro Classes and Certifications... Read More


March - Cert Screen Revamp

We would like to polish and streamline the certification screen currently in game, making it more efficient and intuitive.


March - Improved Map and Respawn

To improve the respawn process, we would like to essentially merge the map screen and the respawn screen so you’ll have access to better and more relevant information when deciding where you want to... Read More


March - Player Generated Missions

PlanetSide 2 has always embraced the idea that the core game content is totally player driven, so the mission system just takes that idea a little further. We want to give players (with appropriate... Read More


March - Color Blind Support

We would like to put control of the UI color schemes into the hands of the player, allowing each user to set up colors that they find useful individually across key elements throughout the game.


March - Ragdoll Physics

Ragdoll physics would make every explosion a potentially amazing scene of amusement and spectacle. As Planetside 2 has a large output of explosions, this seems like it would would make for a fun... Read More


March - Class Revamp: Light Assault

We would like to polish and enhance the Light Assault class We’ll investigate the possible additions of new tools, new abilities, and new suit options We want to add the ability for the Light... Read More


March - Convenience Items

There are a handful of items we'd like to add to the Depot that will allow players to accomplish some commonly requested actions through an SC purchase: Certification Reset Name Change Server Transfer... Read More


March - Implants

Implants would utilize a new loadout slot and provide special bonuses that allow you to further tailor your class to the way you want to play. Example implants might include stuff like: Silent running... Read More


April - Common Pool Heavy Pistols

We're planning on adding a new pistol type to the common pool of weapons that specialize in hitting hard. As common pool weapons, they will be available to all factions. In exchange for their high... Read More


April - Vehicle Update: Sunderer

We want to give a little love to the Sunderer. Early ideas include: Add more weapon types Add additional squad spawn certs For example, allowing you to ignore deployed Sunderer radii We're still... Read More

Last updated - Wednesday at 10:54 AM by JGood

April - Interlink Facility

The Interlink facility is a brand new base type on the scale of the Biolabs, Tech Plants, and Amp Stations. It includes a giant radar dish that will offer great cover from aircraft and has difficult... Read More


April - New Continent: Hossin

Adding a brand new continent: Hossin! Hossin is a swamp covered continent. Bask in the glow of some sweet concept art. [IMG] [IMG] [IMG]


April - Outfit Recruiting

Rolling with an outfit in PlanetSide 2 is really making the most of what the game has to offer in a myriad of different ways, so we want to make the process of finding an outfit and finding new... Read More


April - Facebook/Twitter Integration

We'd like to improve the social networking features in game, specifically by leveraging Facebook and Twitter. For Facebook, we'd like to add support for: Linking an account to your character Post from... Read More

April - Empire Specific Run Animations

We'd like to add some variance and Empire-specific feel to the player run animations.


April - Gifting

We plan on adding support for gifting items to other players.


April - In-game Mail

We want to add an in-game mail system to help on the communication front, likely contained somewhere in the existing notification screen.


May - Resource Revamp

The primary goal for re-addressing the resource system is to make sure it does a better job making resources drive the combat taking place, make sure they have real strategic value, and generally have... Read More


May - Voice Packs

Right now we only have two player voices per faction (male/female). We’d like to start supplying different voice packs that you can use to change the voice of your character to help add more... Read More


May - Taunts

We want to add the ability to display a taunt on your target’s killscreen and play a taunt animation on demand with your avatar. Ideally we might want the ability to customize a killscreen that... Read More


May - Class Revamp: MAX

We want to improve and polish the MAX class. As part of the improvements, we would like to add in unique abilities per faction: TR: Lockdown At the expense of losing mobility, the TR max can shift... Read More


June - New Vehicle: Buggy

Adding a new common pool vehicle, the buggy. These are four-person vehicles designed to provide smaller units of soldiers an appropriate means of transport. The breakdown of seating looks like this:... Read More


June - Faction Pistols

Adding new pistols for each Empire: TR: Auto-Pistol – A fully automatic pistol. NC: Scatter Pistol – A shotgun and a pistol had a baby. VS: Charge Pistol – A pistol with a charge up mechanic;... Read More


June - Per Seat Vehicle Locking

Adding the ability to lock vehicles at the individual seat level instead of the all or nothing options currently available.


June - Improved Vehicle Deconstruction

We’re still working out specifics, but the general idea is that when you manually deconstruct a vehicle, you’ll get back a portion of the resources you spent to acquire it.


June - Air Vehicle Passenger Transport

In an effort to streamline the loading of air vehicles we're interested in exploring support for allowing players to teleport directly into an open seat. The hope is that this would alleviate issues... Read More


June - Vehicle Zoning

We would like to allow vehicles to travel between continents by entering the Warpgate beam in each Empire's Warpgate area, instead of forcing players to abandon their vehicles


June - Outfit Base Capture

If your outfit is the top contributor to a base capture, we’ll identify the facility/outpost as “belonging” to your outfit. We still have a lot of work that we’ll need to iron out on this,... Read More


June - Outfit Leaderboards

Our goal for Outfit Leaderboards is to allow players to compare their Outfit to another via pre-determined scoring metrics (that we are still in the process of determining). Now when you brag about... Read More

June - Outfit Progression

We'd like to add growth and progression to Outfits. One of the ideas we have for doing this is to allow players to contribute points to their Outfit by earning experience, and when enough points are... Read More


June - Outfit Tournaments

We would like to create a structure for direct outfit competition to be used for tournaments and e-sports. Outfits will be compared to other like-sized outfits in leaderboards which can be thought of... Read More


June - Supply Containers

Supply Containers are locked boxes that hold somethingrandomish and potentially spectacular inside. In theory, you would then ask yourself: WHAT"S IN THE BOX?! Unable to not know what splendor might... Read More


June - Player Made Decals

Wouldn't it be cool to roll around sporting your outfit’s custom logo on all outfits and vehicles? We think so too, so we want to give players the ability to make their own decals for use in game.... Read More

[Assist]

Did you get a chance to mirror the Roadmap data Hamma? Wondering if you can post it on the PSU forums.

^^^

I got 4 hours left of work, hop to it!

Bear you are amazing, thank you.

I'm stoked for April. I really like some of the proposed changes, some of them I don't think will impact the game or how I play. New main base, new continent, new vehicle, new class mechanics, WRAITH, Spectator Mode, Orbital Strikes, huge defensive changes..

Yeah, I'm happy with that for now.

[Phantomdestiny]

"deleted post"

[deathgaze]

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[Hamma]

Did you get a chance to mirror the Roadmap data Hamma? Wondering if you can post it on the PSU forums.

I'm at the hotel and things are starting to get underway so I won't be able to do this in the short term.

[J Baley]

I can't get it to load as well.

[J Baley]

Never mind found the stuff on PSU

[Palerion]

Can't judge it until I've read the entire thing :/

Hope it comes up soon.

EDIT: Nevermind...

[Bear]

^^^

I got 4 hours left of work, hop to it!

Bear you are amazing, thank you.

I'm stoked for April. I really like some of the proposed changes, some of them I don't think will impact the game or how I play. New main base, new continent, new vehicle, new class mechanics, WRAITH, Spectator Mode, Orbital Strikes, huge defensive changes..

Yeah, I'm happy with that for now.

No worries, happy to help out. I hate having to mash F5 trying to get stuff to load.

Holy crap though, that was a lot of editing! :)

[Palor]

I am torn. There are more than a few good items in here. There also seems to be a lot of filler like player designed decals, new pistols, facebook/twitter integration, in game mail. All these things are nice but they dont do much to address the problems the game currently has.

The update next week may be key to the long term health of PS2. If the new spawn rooms, defensive tunnels and such help in terms of creating defensive lines we may be okay. If not and the game continues to be zerg from bio lab to tech plant, or amp station to bio lab, etc, etc it may be in trouble.

[Eyeklops]

I'm at the hotel and things are starting to get underway so I won't be able to do this in the short term.
Bummer. The official forums are hosed ATM, and I have nothing to do at work, besides work, but who want's to do that? Thanks anyway. :)

[Tatwi]

Thanks for the summary. With the amount of things on that list that were playable during beta and brought up by the players during beta, it's safe to say the game released a year too early. Most of the things on the list should have been in at launch. Looks like another Jump to Lightspeed to me. That's not to say that the list isn't full of great stuff, just that whole "one chance to make a first impression" thing was really lost with this game's launch. Oh well, maybe the next one won't be launched too early, eh Smed?

[Bear]

I am torn. There are more than a few good items in here. There also seems to be a lot of filler like player designed decals, new pistols, facebook/twitter integration, in game mail. All these things are nice but they dont do much to address the problems the game currently has.

The update next week may be key to the long term health of PS2. If the new spawn rooms, defensive tunnels and such help in terms of creating defensive lines we may be okay. If not and the game continues to be zerg from bio lab to tech plant, or amp station to bio lab, etc, etc it may be in trouble.

That's the whole purpose behind the "Reddit" style they went with. They want the community to let them know what's important and what's not.

My bigger concern is why is continent locking put in way before additional continents.

[Eyeklops]

For those that can't access the page, here's a synopsis:

January - SMGs

We want to add a new weapon type, the Submachine Gun (SMG), to the game. The current plan is to make them accessible to all classes outside of the MAX Stats on the individual weapons will vary... Read More

I keep clicking "read more" in hopes that it will magically turn into a link where I can get my PS2 6-month plan porn fix. LOL

[Hamma]

They are having issues with the site going up and down.

[Phantomdestiny]

That's the whole purpose behind the "Reddit" style they went with. They want the community to let them know what's important and what's not.

My bigger concern is why is continent locking put in way before additional continents.

THIS QUOTE MADE ME JUMP OF HAPPINESS
You won't be able tor take over an Empire's final Warpgate. "This restriction would go away if we ever pursue adding Sanctuaries."

they are considering sanctuaries OHH HELL YEAH

[wasdie]

That's the whole purpose behind the "Reddit" style they went with. They want the community to let them know what's important and what's not.

My bigger concern is why is continent locking put in way before additional continents.

I think because right now there is really no point in fighting for a continent completely. Once the pops get completely unbalanced, everybody just logs off as one side camps the crap out of a continent they own. This leads to population imbalances and a lot of boring gameplay.

Locking a continent would prevent people from actually playing on said continent and would FORCE them to leave. Not just sit there and warpgate camp and drive population away. This would make more interesting and heated battles all around.

[Rasui]

Class revamp on light assault first? What about infiltrator? You know, that class that is all but useless and doesn't have half the tools it needs to fulfill its role? The one that's already outclassed at its supposed role in every way by the... wait for it... light assault.

[Eduard Khil]

Hmm, looking at the roadmap list, it simply will just not do for me.

50% of it is basic, 40% useless and 10% wanted.

Let's see for how long I stick around before the next hype.

[Palerion]

Class revamp on light assault first? What about infiltrator? You know, that class that is all but useless and doesn't have half the tools it needs to fulfill its role?

Lol I am PUMPED about that Light Assault re-vamp.

Duel weilding sounds awesome, but I hope it doesn't become the LA's most powerful asset.

I still want normal ADSing to be effective on the class.



I get what you mean, but cloaking and hacking are powerful abilities.

Not to mention you'll have the ability to use SMGs very soon.

Maybe infs do need a bit more utility, but I'm sure it will be addressed anyway.

I'm personally very impressed with the roadmap.

Only thing that confuses me is there was no mention of changing up the weapon models.

[maradine]

Delicious!

[Rasui]

Lol I am PUMPED about that Light Assault re-vamp.

Duel weilding sounds awesome, but I hope it doesn't become the LA's most powerful asset.

I still want normal ADSing to be effective on the class.



I get what you mean, but cloaking and hacking are powerful abilities.

Not to mention you'll have the ability to use SMGs very soon.

Maybe infs do need a bit more utility, but I'm sure it will be addressed anyway.

I'm personally very impressed with the roadmap.

Only thing that confuses me is there was no mention of changing up the weapon models.
Seriously? Hacking is a novelty at best right now compared to PS1 hacking. Cloaking lasts 12 seconds, makes noise when you cloak or uncloak, and is completely useless closer than 50m unless you're crouched and sitting still (this is the part where the 12 seconds really comes into play).

As for the SMG's, yes they're going to be much welcomed. Once we actually have a reason to get into close range that is. Like say, hacking an enemy Sunderer or planting some C4. Until then they'll only be for the hardcore masochists who like having 100 less shielding and a class ability that artificially gimps your reaction time.

[MrBloodworth]

Guess we will be standing around forever near capture points, instead of hacking them. And defenders will still be asked to work twice as hard ( Due to the "tug of war" system ) to take a point back. ( As opposed to instant resecures. )

[p0intman]

taking long as fuck to load.

brb, going to go freeze my ass of in -9-ish degree weather to get lunch. if its not loaded in a half hour when im back, I'm going to laugh at SOE.

edit: also, reading the synopsis, looks like it'll be maybe april before I'm back, if ever.

edit: nowhere did i see "retroactively making bases and outposts easier to defend by adding fortifications and logical base layout". Whoever wrote that, is in fact retarded. Who are the people on the dev team pushing fucking bf3 shit?

[Stanis]

Having read the synopsis posted I'm disappointed because these are not the things friends no longer playing PS2 are after.

It might make for a great modern FPS. But it's not a step towards including that spirit at the core gameplay of PS1.

March: Continental Locking
"In order to start laying the foundation for a proper metagame.."

Everything on that list should be about a proper metagame. That was the spirit of PS1 that is so badly lacking.

June: Vehicle Zoning
"We would like to allow vehicles to travel between continents by entering the Warpgate"

This was one of the single most immersive features in PS1. Another 6 months? 9 months after release.

More guns, more camo, cosmetic options. Wasting time and assets on the big picture. We might have come back the next day to find Amerish an enemy colour. But tonight - it's ours.




Get us more continents.
Get us moving through warpgates.
Get us fighting on a grand scale without the stupid circles where we take and retake the same bases ten times a night.
Make locking a continent actually both an acheivement and a progression.
Get us more base types
Fix the hexes in terms of a lattice progression
Fix the fights so that we don't whack-a-mole
Reward us for not needing to fight because we hold a locked continent.



Each month they're going to visit a class it seems and give them new tools and features. Will that make them flavour of the month.
Will it make them the most powerful - there is power in utility. Will it just extend peoples grind to get certs because there is something "new".

There is no game benefit to Orbital Strike right now. Nothing in this game requires it - it is just something cool to grind for.

Problem is I don't think most of their playerbase want that spirit from PS1. So the cool loadout options and new cosmetic items win.

Outfit combat? Leaderboards? I'm not in competition with them. Either the enemy or my empire. That's the damn e-sports. I don't care if my men kill nothing and never capture a base. You make outfits compete and they'll stop co-operating in a race to reach the top.

I'm very disappointed.
We'll have some elite killers focussed on outfit esports and a significant churn in players. But I still can't say to all those PS1 players that they even plan to put the old spirit back into the game.

[Dreamcast]

May - Taunts

We want to add the ability to display a taunt on your target’s killscreen and play a taunt animation on demand with your avatar. Ideally we might want the ability to customize a killscreen that... Read More

Let me guess 700 SC for a Taunt lol.

I rather have old school V keys where I have different/quicker ways to taunt....but I guess SOE won't make money with that.

[Assist]

Outfit combat? Leaderboards? I'm not in competition with them. Either the enemy or my empire. That's the damn e-sports. I don't care if my men kill nothing and never capture a base. You make outfits compete and they'll stop co-operating in a race to reach the top.

I'm very disappointed.
We'll have some elite killers focussed on outfit esports and a significant churn in players. But I still can't say to all those PS1 players that they even plan to put the old spirit back into the game.

I haven't had a chance to read it, but the whole eSport thing is a giant turnoff for me and I'm more of a competitive gamer than the average player. If it's only outfit competition then I don't see it as a bad thing, outfits competing against each other is always a good thing. That should make the game thrive I would think. Unless they somehow make it instanced competition in which case it's a giant fail.


Also, all you guys who have been whining about defensive issues, aren't they addressing that in the January update? Defender Only Jumppads is a huge change and IMO a great one. Spawn room changes can only help rather than hurt. AMS changes I assume are to prevent the Sunderers from deploying in non-logical locations which almost always benefit the attacker. SCU changes will make defending zones that are being bum-rushed possible. The Window Plugs are a giant change against all heavy weapons, which will make it so Vehicles are less important for big base fights, hopefully.

idk, seems they're doing a lot of what people asked. I agree there are other things that could be focused(another continent, more meta) but for a 6-month plan this isn't too bad IMO.

[SeraphC]

I hope people stomp their obsession with social networks into the ground.

[Eduard Khil]

Let me guess 700 SC for a Taunt lol.

I rather have old school V keys where I have different/quicker ways to taunt....but I guess SOE won't make money with that.

Like there isn't enough ragers on PS, SOE is only going make them quit or give them a month of "nerf this weapon" because they were killed by a guy who taunted them, over and over.

[Eduard Khil]

I hope people stomp their obsession with social networks into the ground.

Nobody cares about that, for it to actually get a chance would mean some pretty slick manipulation of the system by someone, maybe SOE themselves! hah.

[Nuk]

January looks like a great start. That is the result of listening to the community. But it really tails off in quality after that. February and March are alright, where there are some important updates in there, but after that...

Hopefully they do continue to listen because the difference between January and May/June is just like night and day. It seems like they pulled a lot of stuff out their ass just to have something down for the later months.

[PurpleOtter]

Like there isn't enough ragers on PS, SOE is only going make them quit or give them a month of "nerf this weapon" because they were killed by a guy who taunted them, over and over.

One would hope that SOE will provide the option to turn this mechanic off.

[RogueAprrentice]

Am I missing something? Nothing about game optimization or bug fixes anywhere?

[Eduard Khil]

Am I missing something? Nothing about game optimization or bug fixes anywhere?

That is supposed to be already planned but not scheduled.

[Rockit]

Link is spinning

[Assist]

I thought they said that Searhus was going to be in before Hossin more than a few times in the past?

[bpostal]

I can't really look at the thing right now because 403 but from the bit Bear posted (Thanks Bear!) I just want to get one thing off my chest right quick about daily achievements.

Dear SOE,
Fuck you. Fuck you in your fucking face. Why the fucking shit are you adding this stupid bullshit to the god damn game? Fuck your daily achievements and their stupid fucking medals (or whatever they end up giving you) and the whole piece of shit daily achievement system. That's not a real reason to play this game, It's artificial as fuck and adds little to nothing of value. As soon as I get the chance I'm going to downvote the absolute piss out of this just to see what happens because fuck that stupid silly shit.

Make the game more enjoyable to play, add depth for fucks sake. Don't dick us around with stupid fucking mechanics and systems like daily mother fucking achievements. Daily achievements, why don't you just come to my house and take a shit on my computer, saw open my brain and then stick your dick into that small soft spot where I keep my good memories of what Planetside used to be like?
What the fucking fuck.

Love,
bpostal

[Natir]

I didn't see anything to really help small outfits or real bit meta game improvements... Did I miss something? (I looked at the stuff prior to it being shut down a second time on the PS2 website)

[MrBloodworth]

Am I missing something? Nothing about game optimization or bug fixes anywhere?

That will always be and be forever and ongoing process. Its also not what a road map is about.

[Rockit]

I like a roadmap that leads me to nowhere. That way I can tell my girlfriend yes we males dont want to read a map and would rather get lost :lol:

[p0intman]

I can't really look at the thing right now because 403 but from the bit Bear posted (Thanks Bear!) I just want to get one thing off my chest right quick about daily achievements.

Dear SOE,
Fuck you. Fuck you in your fucking face. Why the fucking shit are you adding this stupid bullshit to the god damn game? Fuck your daily achievements and their stupid fucking medals (or whatever they end up giving you) and the whole piece of shit daily achievement system. That's not a real reason to play this game, It's artificial as fuck and adds little to nothing of value. As soon as I get the chance I'm going to downvote the absolute piss out of this just to see what happens because fuck that stupid silly shit.

Make the game more enjoyable to play, add depth for fucks sake. Don't dick us around with stupid fucking mechanics and systems like daily mother fucking achievements. Daily achievements, why don't you just come to my house and take a shit on my computer, saw open my brain and then stick your dick into that small soft spot where I keep my good memories of what Planetside used to be like?
What the fucking fuck.

Love,
bpostal

why the fucking fuck am i agreeing with a fucking TR?

[Rockit]

What SOE needs to do is get Dave Georgeson on this project. I respect he is on EQ: next but there wont be a next EQ unless PS2 is successful. Bag Higby and get Dave on this project please Smed.

[ringring]

I see we don't get the metagame in the next 6 month period and have to wait until searhus is available.

TBH, that is what I expected, but it's dispiriting.

Nothing on command chat to try to recreate the sense of community that existed in PS1 neither.

[Rockit]

Nothing on command chat to try to recreate the sense of community that existed in PS1 neither.

That is the overall problem. The original PS devs knew that was a weak point and fostered it. These new guys think blow shit up randomly has some value.

Hey crash this is wildvs.

[Rockit]

To be quiet honest with you, Higby needs to take a hike while Dave has some opportunity to save this game.

[Rockit]

Creative genious is earned and not deserved. Matt needs schooling form Dave and that is all I am saying about it.

[ShadetheDruid]

Maybe we could talk about the roadmap and not spam pet issues?

[CrazEpharmacist]

Creative genious is earned and not deserved. Matt needs schooling form Dave and that is all I am saying about it.

Can you elaborate on who Dave is? Did he work on PS1?

This whole road-map is majorly disappointing. No mention of lattice or a re-designed hex system. No mention of server merges.

Fuck it. At least PS1 is going free to play before June.

[maradine]

Maybe we could talk about the roadmap and not spam pet issues?

Nonsense - personal ego above all.

[PredatorFour]

I'm going to refrain from swearing and just say most of this is disappointing.

Also im a vanu that happens to agree with a tr and nc :cry:

[Rockit]

Can you elaborate on who Dave is? Did he work on PS1?

This whole road-map is majorly disappointing. No mention of lattice or a re-designed hex system. No mention of server merges.

Fuck it. At least PS1 is going free to play before June.

Yeah PS2 will die in a fire before he can help. Vive la Matt. Dumbass

[Wargrim]

As the links are dead and i can not read the details, i will only give a preliminary rating and comments to what has been posted.

As it appears i am hitting the post length limit, this will be split up into multiple posts.

January - SMGs

We want to add a new weapon type, the Submachine Gun (SMG), to the game. The current plan is to make them accessible to all classes outside of the MAX Stats on the individual weapons will vary... Read More

This is really only relevant for Infiltrators imho. They need a close combat option. Unfortunately i expect another wave of crying like when they had shotguns, resulting in massive nerfs and / or removal of SMGs from Infiltrators.

My rating:
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January - Rendering Distance Based on Threat

We want to mitigate the impact of render distance on enemies that are a direct threat. For example, anyone that pilots air vehicles can probably attest to how lame it is to get shot down by AA players... Read More

I hope this includes the worst case scenario of a huge biolab fight. This is a super important fix, please do not screw it up.

My rating:
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January - Spawn Room Tunnel System

In our ongoing effort to mitigate spawn camping, we're planning on adding some spawn room tunnel networks to provide additional escape paths. The current plan is to add these to all Tech Plants and... Read More

This depends a lot on the details of implementation, but in principle it is a very good idea. And it comes soon, which is important.

My rating:
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January - Window Plugs

We are making windows all across Auraxis’ bases and facilities smaller, so it should be tougher for tanks and planes to shoot into buildings.

This is a poor and insufficient stopgap measure to reduce the impact of bad building and outpost design.

My rating:
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January - Tower Redesign

The layout of towers will be altered to include more shields and an additional exit from the spawn room. The hope is to make spawn camping in the towers a more difficult proposition.

This is very important, and i hope the solution will be a good one.

My rating:
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January - More secure spawn rooms at small outposts

This entails adding more windows and doors, as well as a canopy to protect against aircraft. This should make spawn camping more difficult and will be present across all small outposts.

Judging from the FNO pictures, the redesign is a very good one. However, outpost layout will still be super important, getting lib/tank camped 2m outside of your spawn or 10m outside of your spawn is no significant difference. We need infantry fight over the control points, THAT is what we should use to measure success or failure of any spawn building and base layout changes. From the availablem info so far, i give you a
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January - Destroying the SCU only penalizes Spawn Timers

Currently, destroying an Spawn Control Unit (SCU) completely removes that Spawn point from the facility until it is repaired. Unfortunately this can have
the effect of ending a fight too quickly and... Read More

This is a horrible idea. I liked SCUs in every outpost as we had in beta. It gave real, viable and important strategic targets to attack and hold to small, squad sized units. It was good for infantry combat. It encouraged Gal drops. I was unhappy with your decision to remove them from most bases. And now you want to make it even less important? This is a bad, very bad direction. What you should do instead is to finally design bases around the concept of layered defense, and put the SCU where the defenders can actually do something about it, by using infantry inside defendable building structures accessable even when there is a million lib/tanks outside.

This idea sucks, and for that i give you a
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January - Creating "No Deploy" zones for AMS equipped Sunderers

We are currently discussing mechanics which would allow designers to designate areas within a base or facility that Sunderers cannot deploy in. The initial use of this ability will be to disallow... Read More

No, no no no no. NO! AMS placement and AMS hunting are vital parts of the whole attack and defense game. The fact that you need inside sundies to defend most bases tells you something about their failed design when it comes to defensible layouts. Instead of blocking sundies from deploying in certain bases, you should make vehicle shields meaningful by A: Putting their gens inside buildings the defenders can actually defend with infantry, and B: closing the huge holes that you call infantry gates, that sunderers can simply drive through without any significant problems.

Stop bringing up horribble cures to symptoms, instead of treating causes.

My rating:
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January - Defender Only Jump Pads

In an effort to help support general defense at facilities, we’re exploring the idea of having jump pads which allow players to quickly traverse the walls only be usable by the Empire in control of... Read More

This is a good idea, and it seems you will implement it fast.
This earns you a
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January - Player Invincibility on Spawn

Getting killed right as you spawn in is not fun. One of the things we can do to try and reduce frustration on that front is add a very brief period of invulnerability to a player in that situation.... Read More

I thought about it since it got announced, and i think invulnerability uppon revive is outright horrible, and invulnerability when spawning on an AMS is also not a good idea. How often have you been near an hostile AMS as an infantry guy, and because you were out of mines/c4 you had to kill the spawning guys and wait for your teammate to run up with explosives? I have been there many times. Emptying a mag into someone who is invulnerable, and i can not tell when he stops being invulnerable, to then die while reloading simply sucks. And if the AMS gets camped by a lib and / or tank, for that one it does not matter at all if people die to the current salvo of explosive death or the next one. All in all, a bad idea, earning you a
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January - Experience Source Display Improvements

We want to display the total Experience bonus percentage rewarded whenever you get the applicable experience. Currently this would show as a small popup next to your Cert point display right above the... Read More

Hm, ill have to see this in action.
My rating:
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January - Experience Incentives

The idea behind this Incentive system is that higher “priority” targets are worth more experience than others. So killing someone on a wicked kill streak nets you more XP than killing someone... Read More

The idea sounds good, but it really depends on the implementation.
My rating:
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February - Empire Specific Rocket Launchers

We would like to add Empire-specific rocket launchers, including things like player guided rockets, multiple lock-on swarm missiles, and a charge fire mode into the mix.

Just make sure we do not end up with the outright best empire specific solution at one faction ( i am looking at you , Vanu! ) , and lackluster ones for the other factions. Make them require a comparable amount of efford / skill from players!
My rating:
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February - Vehicle Update: Flash

We want to add new abilities and weapons to the Flash. Current ideas include: Adding additional weapon types Wraith (cloaking the quad) option for infiltrators We're still brainstorming, so call out... Read Mo

This is a profound
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February - Pump Action Shotguns

We would like to add a new weapon type, the Pump Action Shotgun. These shotguns fill a similar role to the existing semi-auto’s already in game, but trade rate of fire for increased damage.

Oh more shotguns.
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[Rockit]

It cost money to get Dave on this project. He is on EqNext. Problem is we have stupid creative dir on Ps2 who is overpaid.

[typhaon]

Whoa.

First impression was it is a pretty underwhelming list... have to see if it really is... or if I'm just disappointed there wasn't anything actually COOL in it. Not a single thing that blew my mind or made me think WOW! They have really been up to something... Seems like a bunch of generic stuff you'd expect...

I do like the organization for feedback, however! Some of the ideas are getting trashed hard and it pleases me to think the devs are reading those responses :lol:

[Rockit]

Matt just need to leave this project, he is of no value add.

[Wargrim]

February - VR Training Area

Learning how to play the game under live fire conditions can be pretty daunting. To help address this, we’re planning on adding in a VR Training zone that will be a safe haven for players to try out... Read More

This is super important. It can not come fast enough.
My rating:
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February - Orbital Strike

Orbital Strikes are intended to help push enemy players out of an area by turning that area into a series of large explosions. Players should have enough warning time to potentially escape the area,... Read More

Orbital strikes should never be in the game. Want an area full of explosions? Get some fucking tanks / libs / ESFs to do it.

This earns you a big
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February - Spectator Mode

We would like to add Spectator Mode for live gameplay observation.

Depending on implementation, this could be awesome for movie making, and awful for gameplay that requires you to go all sneaky like.

My rating:
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February - Regional Empire Priority System

The intent for this system is to allow the game to set "priority level" for regions based on what activities are taking place there. These areas would come with score/XP bonuses to encourage fights in... Read More

Automated system? No, go away. We need PLAYER organization tools, to allow for strategic and tactic coordination, not another automated system undermining any attempts at large scale player driven warfare.

My rating:
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February - Loadout Screen Revamp

We want to take a pass at cleaning up and enhancing the Loadout screen. Specifics are still pending, but the goal is to make common actions more convenient. For example: Changing tints on your... Read More

Hm, lack of details earns this a
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February - Community Grief Reporting

We're investigating ways to improve the reporting tools available to the PlanetSide 2 community at large to help identify and call out hackers and other griefers. This would include things like being... Read More

This should have been in the game from day one. Yay for finally adding it, boo for being so late.
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February - Daily Medals/Achievements

We'd like to add in daily achievements/medals for weapons and tools which could include things like: "Kill 10 enemies with the CARV" or "Revive 10 allies with Revive Grenades" would net Experience or... Read More

NO! Encourage tactical use of weapons / abilites / tools, not mindless spamming for XP or achievements!

My rating:
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February - Account Level Unlocks

We would like items purchased with Station Cash to be unlocked across all characters on the account who can utilize them. This change would be retroactive to prior purchases.

This is a highly welcome change.
My rating:
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February - Increase the number of vehicle cosmetic slots

We offer a bunch of sweet cosmetic customizations for vehicles, but we only let you equip them one at a time. We'd like to add additional slots that will let you equip multiple customizations on your... Read More

Good stuff.
My rating:
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February - Separate Score from Experience

At the moment experience and score are tied too closely together, so if you buff your experience, you end up buffing your score as well. That’s misleading and not really fulfilling the intention for... Read More

Lack of information earns this a
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February - Improved Item Preview

We want to add the ability to preview an item on the player’s current Loadout for their class/vehicle so everyone can get a better idea of what it's really going to look like in context. This... Read More

This is long overdue.
My rating:
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March - MAX Flamethrowers

A new weapon type for MAX suits, the Flamethrower will be designed to inflict sustained damage against soft targets.

So it comes back and will be good for.. jea what actually?
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March - Continent Locking

In order to start laying the foundation for a proper metagame, we've been putting a lot of thought into continent locking. There are a lot of little snags and details still to work out, but the basic... Read More

March is an acceptable timeframe, but i wish it would be fster. Therefore, i only give you a
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March - Tutorial

We would like to improve and expand the in-game tutorial by adding guided interactive training elements to VR training zone. Current plans include tutorials for: Basic Intro Classes and Certifications... Read More

A bit late to the party here imho.
My rating:
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[Rockit]

Yeah I hear you man.

[Rockit]

If SOE is serious about this title they will make the hard decision and realize Matt's dream is short and I hope John will re-assign Dave to this project.

[CrazEpharmacist]

It cost money to get Dave on this project. He is on EqNext. Problem is we have stupid creative dir on Ps2 who is overpaid.

Who is Dave!!?? What's his career history like? Did he work on PS1? I'm not disagreeing with you, I think Higby is a terrible person and should have been fired long ago but how do you know Dave is any better?

[Rockit]

Georgeson. Original PS1 dev. Smed trusts him on EQ:N project. Do the math. noob

[Rockit]

Hey Shade are you gay?

[Wargrim]

March - Cert Screen Revamp

We would like to polish and streamline the certification screen currently in game, making it more efficient and intuitive.

Ok. Missing details make this a profound
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March - Improved Map and Respawn

To improve the respawn process, we would like to essentially merge the map screen and the respawn screen so you’ll have access to better and more
relevant information when deciding where you want to... Read More

Good idea.
My rating:
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March - Player Generated Missions

PlanetSide 2 has always embraced the idea that the core game content is totally player driven, so the mission system just takes that idea a little further. We want to give players (with appropriate... Read More

Details man, details! Lack of details earns one more
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March - Color Blind Support

We would like to put control of the UI color schemes into the hands of the player, allowing each user to set up colors that they find useful individually across key elements throughout the game.


I think this is a good thing, lets wait for the implementation though.
My rating:
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March - Ragdoll Physics

Ragdoll physics would make every explosion a potentially amazing scene of amusement and spectacle. As Planetside 2 has a large output of explosions, this seems like it would would make for a fun... Read More

All i can say is
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March - Class Revamp: Light Assault

We would like to polish and enhance the Light Assault class We’ll investigate the possible additions of new tools, new abilities, and new suit options We
want to add the ability for the Light... Read More

No details. Another
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March - Convenience Items

There are a handful of items we'd like to add to the Depot that will allow players to accomplish some commonly requested actions through an SC purchase: Certification Reset Name Change Server Transfer... Read More

This sounds like stuff that should have been in the game from day one, and some of those should have been free. Not impressed, you get a
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March - Implants

Implants would utilize a new loadout slot and provide special bonuses that allow you to further tailor your class to the way you want to play. Example implants might include stuff like: Silent running... Read More

Meh. Meh? Meh!
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April - Common Pool Heavy Pistols

We're planning on adding a new pistol type to the common pool of weapons that specialize in hitting hard. As common pool weapons, they will be available to all factions. In exchange for their high... Read More

Oh, more pistols.
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April - Vehicle Update: Sunderer

We want to give a little love to the Sunderer. Early ideas include: Add more weapon types Add additional squad spawn certs For example, allowing you to
ignore deployed Sunderer radii We're still... Read More

Lack of details makes this a hard one. And i generally did not like your tinkering with the entire issue of AMSes and spawning. My guts say me you should not touch spawn sunderers, so my rating is
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April - Interlink Facility

The Interlink facility is a brand new base type on the scale of the Biolabs, Tech Plants, and Amp Stations. It includes a giant radar dish that will offer great cover from aircraft and has difficult... Read More

While i do not have any details, and it might suck, i welcome new base types in principle, and therefore you get a
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April - New Continent: Hossin

Adding a brand new continent: Hossin! Hossin is a swamp covered continent. Bask in the glow of some sweet concept art.

I wish this came faster. But for adding it, you get a
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April - Outfit Recruiting

Rolling with an outfit in PlanetSide 2 is really making the most of what the game has to offer in a myriad of different ways, so we want to make the process of finding an outfit and finding new... Read More

This should have been in at day one. You do not plan to add vital outfit functionallity before April? For this i shall give you a
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April - Facebook/Twitter Integration

We'd like to improve the social networking features in game, specifically by leveraging Facebook and Twitter. For Facebook, we'd like to add support for: Linking an account to your character Post from... Read More

You better make this opt in. I want none of this crap.
My rating:
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April - Empire Specific Run Animations

We'd like to add some variance and Empire-specific feel to the player run animations.

I support this, if it manages to catch the essence of a Vanu player running away from combat holding his pants because he shat himself out of fear.
My rating:
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[CrazEpharmacist]

I disagree with the implants^^ I think if they implement them right it could offer some nice tactical game-play and allow you to tailor your class to your individual play-style. My worry though is that if they tie them to resources it will offer a pay-to-in advantage to subscribers.

[p0intman]

went through the roadmap once already. now to start farming the fuck out of alt accounts to downvote the fuck out of anything esports related.

[CrazEpharmacist]

went through the roadmap once already. now to start farming the fuck out of alt accounts to downvote the fuck out of anything esports related.

Already seeing a shit ton of down-votes for em.

[Wargrim]

April - Gifting

We plan on adding support for gifting items to other players.

This is a good idea.
My rating:
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April - In-game Mail

We want to add an in-game mail system to help on the communication front, likely contained somewhere in the existing notification screen.

Another good idea.
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May - Resource Revamp

The primary goal for re-addressing the resource system is to make sure it does a better job making resources drive the combat taking place, make sure they have real strategic value, and generally have... Read More

So, we have to wait until May, to see resources maybe get some real meaning? Wow. This is inacceptably late in the pipeline.
My rating:
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May - Voice Packs

Right now we only have two player voices per faction (male/female). We’d like to start supplying different voice packs that you can use to change the
voice of your character to help add more... Read More

Meh. Yes i say meh.
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May - Taunts

We want to add the ability to display a taunt on your target’s killscreen and play a taunt animation on demand with your avatar. Ideally we might want the ability to customize a killscreen that... Read More

More meh.
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May - Class Revamp: MAX

We want to improve and polish the MAX class. As part of the improvements, we would like to add in unique abilities per faction: TR: Lockdown At the expense of losing mobility, the TR max can shift... Read More

Oh wow, it takes you month and month to put in abilities that we already had in PS1, or that were suggested over and over again?
My rating:
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June - New Vehicle: Buggy

Adding a new common pool vehicle, the buggy. These are four-person vehicles designed to provide smaller units of soldiers an appropriate means of
transport. The breakdown of seating looks like this:... Read More

Lack of information and the very late place in the pipeline earn this a
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June - Faction Pistols

Adding new pistols for each Empire: TR: Auto-Pistol – A fully automatic pistol. NC: Scatter Pistol – A shotgun and a pistol had a baby. VS: Charge Pistol – A pistol with a charge up mechanic;... Read More

Oh, more pistols.
My rating:
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June - Per Seat Vehicle Locking

Adding the ability to lock vehicles at the individual seat level instead of the all or nothing options currently available.

This needs till june???
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June - Improved Vehicle Deconstruction

We’re still working out specifics, but the general idea is that when you manually deconstruct a vehicle, you’ll get back a portion of the resources you spent to acquire it.

Why did you even put deconstruction into the game with it serving no other purpouse but to deny people a kill? And now wait till June to fix it? Not cool.
My rating:
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June - Air Vehicle Passenger Transport

In an effort to streamline the loading of air vehicles we're interested in exploring support for allowing players to teleport directly into an open seat. The hope is that this would alleviate issues... Read More

Huh? Lack of info gives this a
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June - Vehicle Zoning

We would like to allow vehicles to travel between continents by entering the Warpgate beam in each Empire's Warpgate area, instead of forcing players to
abandon their vehicles

This is a nobrainer that should have been in the game day one. Waiting till JUNE to implement it is a very, very big disaapointment.
My rating:
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June - Outfit Base Capture

If your outfit is the top contributor to a base capture, we’ll identify the facility/outpost as “belonging” to your outfit. We still have a lot of work that we’ll need to iron out on this,... Read More

This could be cool. Unless it fuels the ego trip of huge zergfits by being designed in such a way that small outfits will never achieve it. A large lack of information earns this another
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[Sheppe]

Only quickly read through, didn't see mention on Meta game?

Regarding Interlink bases, IIRC there was a big base with a radar dish on the top that was one of the first wall papers for PS2 - it was taken from a mosquito's POV, large courtyard.

[Tatwi]

Who is Dave!!?? What's his career history like? Did he work on PS1? I'm not disagreeing with you, I think Higby is a terrible person and should have been fired long ago but how do you know Dave is any better?

You have the same internet as the rest of us...


While I do agree that Smokejumper is one of SOE's biggest assets (and should be CEO), I am not on board with spamming this thread with negative sentiments toward Higby. Of course Dave is the better person for the job, just like Raph Koster would be handy to have on staff for understanding the hows and whys of player actions and interaction, but Higby can do the job too. It's just a matter of putting the lessons of the past into action rather than foolishly trying to "make something better" while ignoring the lessons...

[Wargrim]

June - Outfit Leaderboards

Our goal for Outfit Leaderboards is to allow players to compare their Outfit to another via pre-determined scoring metrics (that we are still in the process of determining). Now when you brag about... Read More

To be honest, this only makes sense if i can chose what i actually want to compare. If it picks some arbitrary stats to say "Outfit x is better than Outfit y", when both have totally different playstyles, goals and structures, then it will suck. And really, i am not competing with outfits in my faction. I am competing with outfits in the other factions. I am very unsure about this feature, and so you get a
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June - Outfit Progression

We'd like to add growth and progression to Outfits. One of the ideas we have for doing this is to allow players to contribute points to their Outfit by earning experience, and when enough points are... Read More

Lack of details, and it is also way to late down the pipeline imho. Outfit specialization and identity should be at the top of the priority list.
Therefore, i give you a
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June - Outfit Tournaments

We would like to create a structure for direct outfit competition to be used for tournaments and e-sports. Outfits will be compared to other like-sized
outfits in leaderboards which can be thought of... Read More

See my comments above. This is not a sports game, it is a WAR GAME. Do the Army and the Air Force and the Navy hold tournaments who is better at 30 mile running? Well maybe they do, but it is useless fluff that has nothing to do with the WARFIGHTING IN A WAR.
My rating:
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June - Supply Containers

Supply Containers are locked boxes that hold somethingrandomish and potentially spectacular inside. In theory, you would then ask yourself: WHAT"S IN THE BOX?! Unable to not know what splendor might... Read More

I... how to say this. Lock boxes are the worst possible fucking retarded bullshit mechanic in F2P games. Yes, i think that is a way to say it.
My rating:
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June - Player Made Decals

Wouldn't it be cool to roll around sporting your outfit’s custom logo on all outfits and vehicles? We think so too, so we want to give players the ability to make their own decals for use in game.... Read More

You need until june to allow players to make their own decals??? Wow.
My rating:
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[p0intman]

outfit decals can work, look at some of the art from eve's alliances:

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c4/c4fd6aa3dce208b267ed86b10df83b6296c386f5_full.jpg
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/d/dc/D2_logo.png
As long as its held up to a high standard of quality, and not just random mspaint, it can work.

[Tatwi]

Lock boxes are nothing more than online gambling and complete and utter bullshit. You could beat me in the head with a 2x4 and I still would not be retarded enough to spend my money on that crap. I hope the government(s) fine the gaming industry for taking advantage of vulnerable people with these boxes - just because it's common doesn't mean it's right.

[maradine]

It's no more wrong or right than selling goods that don't actually exist. Does it matter that you willingly purchase them when you don't know precisely how they don't exist? Welcome to the future; it's not going to get less weird.

[Wargrim]

MY OVERALL RATING.

Please keep in mind this is a preliminary rating based on very little information and details. I want to give a good, fast feedback on the first impression i have of this 6 - month plan.

Some of the things might turn out better or worse than expected.

With that said, what is my first feeling?

Disappointment. Both because some things i feel are vital and important are so far down the road ( Outfit functionallity, more Maps ), but even more so because some things did not get any mention at all.

No word on population management or server merges, or on how you plan to keep a sufficiently high player population to have interesting battles. Planetside 2 sucks when there are not enough players online. This is the by far biggest threat and problem for the game, and all we get from you is utter silence on that topic.

The entire complex set of topics that people like to call "Meta Game", and that i would like to call additional strategic and tactical layers, did only get scratched very little and on the surface, and apparently everything related to it is a far future, cloudy subject. IT SHOULD BE THE MAIN DEVELOPMENT FOCUS RIGHT HERE AND NOW.

No word on giving Bases meaningful benefits. No word on adding viable attack / sabotage targets for squad sized units. No word on cross continent warfare. No word on meaningful benefits for taking and defending a continent. And so on.

I think you have failed to present a big picture and vision we have been waiting for. There are many good detail solutions, and those save you from earning a thumb down rating.

But i feel you are not pushing hard enough to move this game away from "instant action to a random place, shoot random guys in the face, zerg around a bit and quit" to something bigger, deeper and more fulfilling for people who want to play this in the long run. It feels like fast food. I like fast food occasionally, but i do not want to eat it every day. Where is the Planetside1 flavoured chocolate cake?

My personal overall rating:

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[ringring]

That is the overall problem. The original PS devs knew that was a weak point and fostered it. These new guys think blow shit up randomly has some value.

Hey crash this is wildvs.
I know mate. You told me one day when we were chatting via tells in PS1. :D

[Rat]

Creative genious is earned and not deserved. Matt needs schooling form Dave and that is all I am saying about it.

It cost money to get Dave on this project. He is on EqNext. Problem is we have stupid creative dir on Ps2 who is overpaid.

Matt just need to leave this project, he is of no value add.

If SOE is serious about this title they will make the hard decision and realize Matt's dream is short and I hope John will re-assign Dave to this project.

To be quiet honest with you, Higby needs to take a hike while Dave has some opportunity to save this game.

Damn dude...so much hate...show us on the doll where Matt touched you.
or did he just bang your girlfriend?

[MaxDamage]

ROADMAP LOOKS GREAT.
Looks like planetside 1+. ;)

[NewSith]

So new system is no different from a forum. I'd at least expect it to be locked into 1 comment per person, to avoid lengthy and pointless discussions.


Now who was the one who said that "forum threads are easily derailed by trolls"?

[Sledgecrushr]

It all looks great to me. I am excited to see how this all works out.

[MrBloodworth]

I think its funny how they want to change the respawn map to how it was in the original.

Even though it was brought up in beta a billion times.

NEW IDEA!

[Merzun]

I don't know why everyone is so negative about esport. In my opinion if done right it can benefit the game in a huge way.
There will be events where outfit can fight each other and prove themselves. Isn't that what was a mayor part in PS1. Competing against other
outfits? They will get their own temporary small maps without interference from other players, and lets be honest if other players where around they would most like get the blame for things gone wrong anyway.

If done right there could be a huge inflow of new players and with them money and it would help to prolong the lifetime of the game. There would also
not be much influence to the normal game as they could only open the small maps for tournaments. Every training for the outfits has to be done in the normal game environment. So we see more teamwork ingame too.

There could even be RTS influence to the game where the platoon commander will be responsible only for giving commands via map and putting tasks on it and he has only information available that is provided by his soldiers.

Another major factor would be a better balance as you only can be succesful with a well balanced game.

[Crator]

It all looks great to me. I am excited to see how this all works out.

I agree! It does look to have a lot of what the community has been asking for. I don't understand some of the rage folks are communicating here about it. Rome wasn't built in a day... Yes, some of the things are quick fixes and not full out resolutions but they stated they would be a while back anyways. I don't mind quick fixes or small tweaks here and there to try and fix the issue. Allows the devs to evaluate what the next step should be in a more precise manner imo.

[typhaon]

I think E-Sports done correctly could be fantastic.

Make it conquest related... make it so each member can only respawn from tubes a set # of times (medic revivals wouldn't count) before they are out of the battle permanently.

But... if it's some silly version that involves which outfit figures the best way to farm score - no.

[Shogun]

i am actually disappointed by the roadmap.

why is there no revamp for combat engineers and infiltrators on the list to vote for?
the classes who are on shedule for an overhaul don´t need to be revamped. engineers and infiltrators need it most! they need big infusions of "good old ps1"

[Sirisian]

So many posts made. I got mine in early. This is going to become convoluted very quickly.

On that note though they are planning faction specific running animations. I'm so glad they have priorities. I feel like their design team didn't try with a few of these as they're really bad and essentially designed to be small things with the goal to use as few resources to complete as possible.

[typhaon]

I am most disappointed not to see WEATHER on the list.

I understand that some kind of final imagined version of weather might not technically appropriate, at this time... but it seems like more variety to the environmental effects that are in the game (sand/snow storms, fog, cloud cover) would not be too difficult to arrange... and would add to the game.

[Maidere]

Not bad.
But by far not enough. I would realy like to see more adjustments to be made to the core gameplay.

[p0intman]

to natir/redcurtis: lol at your impudence. You'll have to wait until i get back tonight, as I see what you are doing and it will not go unnoticed.

:)

[CraazyCanuck]

MY OVERALL RATING.
Wargrims summary
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NAILED IT! PS2 is like fast food.

[Tatwi]

NAILED IT! PS2 is like fast food.

I actually like Harvey's burgers, but then again they are by far the slowest "fast food" makers on Earth.

PS2 is more like "Chinese food": It's fairly cheap, fills you up for a short period of time and leaves you feeling empty far sooner than you would have imagined. After a day or two the experience is easily forgotten and thus will be repeated multiple times periodically, but not regularly.

[ChrisLand]

PSU People:

Please go thumbs up the resource revamp on the roadmap and make it a higher priority.

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/may-resource-revamp.83018/

It was one of the main things called for in Hamma's metagame video but is currently slotted for MAY

[Ruffdog]

Wow they really did ship half a game didn't they? Would I rather be not playing at all? Course not but I can't look past the fact we're stuck with 3 continents until April. Ghost captures until April people!

Some elements I like for sure though, I'm not a totally ungrateful bastard.
eSports may draw new folk but personally I think it can jog on.

[Rahabib]

PSU People:

Please go thumbs up the resource revamp on the roadmap and make it a higher priority.

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/may-resource-revamp.83018/

It was one of the main things called for in Hamma's metagame video but is currently slotted for MAY

agreed.

[Helwyr]

Mostly disappointing.

No mention of Stalker Camouflage or Vehicle Hacking, and have to wait months to get new pistols. There was the Wraith I suppose but the stealth hating crowd already trying to down-vote it. In short very little Infiltrator love.

Meta Game changes come in with drips and drabs over months when most of us here on PSU at least believe it should be top priority and dealt with right now. At least it's on the agenda.

Was really hoping to get to see Hossin Sooner as well.

And the new Reddit forum formatting ... Horrible!

[p0intman]

comparison i just noticed: ingame email (something useful) has a score of 100, while achivements (something incredibly dumb) has only 56. LOL at cod/bf tards voting impotence.

As for fb/twitter integration: DOWN x 177 UP x 30

also most/all of the esports shit has a rating of 0 with more downs than ups. this is GOOD.

[Sturmhardt]

I think it's funny that it's really a 6 month plan. I mean how many people do they have there working? 10? That sounds more like a 3 month plan and a long vacation if you ask me.

[mbarrett]

this is just fab news , empire max units are getting their own unique ability at last , we're getting a brand new base and the return of the interlink base , slowly this game will start to feel like planetside rather than Bf , the next features we would like is a port of all the voice macro character chants , or if you are not able to port them over please create us some new ones , squad/platoon displayed like the original style would be much appreciated as i think not being able to see you full platoon is just not good enough , please give us back the original CE (combat engineering) x 20 mines x 10 spitfire turrets x 10 motion sensors , also i think having ranked badges that you can display on your arm for completing challenges would be nice as it shows everyone your medals , slowly this game will start to feel like planetside

[Aveox]

Dear SOE devs,

Can you please explain to me why in 2013 you struggle to produce a successor to a 2003 game that had at launch:
- 10 continents
- Sanctuaries
- VR training
- Inventory system
- A fully working metagame
- Continent locks
- A working resource system (NTU)
- a global weather system
- Defendable bases
- 5 different base types
- A global lattice

I'm not a game developer, but you don't need to be a musician to understand music or an artist to understand art. When I look at the road map I, as a gamer, am having serious doubts if you even understand what a Planetside game should be about.

So why do you keep ignoring the feedback we gave in beta and after release and still insist on reinventing the wheel? Why do you still want to make Planetside 2 into some weird Battlefield and social media mashup? Facebook and Twitter integration? E-sports? More guns? Really? How about adressing the major issues first? Continents. Meta game. Resource system. How about making the game actually enjoyable first and only then wonder if new run animations and taunts are really a needed addition?

And in case you haven't noticed: Servers are getting more empty by the day. It's not rocket science: The game currently does not keep it's players interested for more then a few months. For a game that is free to play that means that whatever you are doing, is not the correct way of doing it. So, for once, will you please not be as stubborn as heck and will you finally listen to your veterans, your customers? Ditch this roadmap and start working on the things that really matter so we can have a game worthy of the Planetside name.

You want this game to be a success, and so do we. Let's make it happen.

Regards,

Aveox

[Roy Awesome]

- 10 continents * One PS2 continent takes about 6 times the work of a PS1 continent
- Sanctuaries *Design Decision. They put the sancs on the continent rather than behind a loading screen
- VR training * Design Decision. They also focused on getting the game done rather than adding VR
- Inventory system * Design Decision. Personally, I think the class system is far better than PS1's inventory for a number of reasons.
- A fully working metagame * Lack of continents makes a meaningful metagame very hard
- Continent locks * Only 3 continents doesn't allow this to work in a meaningful way in PS2
- A working resource system (NTU) * Added in a patch in PS1. Were not in at launch
- a global weather system * Did this ever work? Whenever I played it was nothing or turned off
- Defendable bases * But not interesting. Lets fight over a long tunnel with no cover
- 5 different base types * All of them were the saaaammmee
- A global lattice * Added in Aftershock


Rose colored glasses gogo.

[Roy Awesome]

I have to admit, I was kind of expecting positive attitudes and actual discussion.

Instead, p0intman and rockit are shitting up the thread and just hating on a game they probably don't play. I fail to see how anything you guys are doing or saying is helping make the game better. If anything, you are driving the developers off of this forum and into a place where people are constructive and nice.

[Phantomdestiny]

there is one thing you people are not noticing are you? they want a simple game on release with no meta game. do you seriously think that new people are gone understand a full meta game like ps1 from the get go well NO .

So what SOE is doing is making a simple game which resembles bf in order to get new players in when the players are hocked .

Then they put the real game in which they will learn easier ; rather than having a EVE like game right in their face which is overwhelming for a lot of people.

[Aveox]

- 10 continents * One PS2 continent takes about 6 times the work of a PS1 continent
That's by choice. Totally depends on the amount of detail you want to put into it. You can either have one ultra-detailed continent or have 6 lesser detailed continents but a working meta game. The former will produce great screenshots. The latter will produce great gameplay and can still easily be improved with some art passes later on.

- Sanctuaries *Design Decision. They put the sancs on the continent rather than behind a loading screen
Warpgate is not the same as Sanctuary. Not by a longshot.

- VR training * Design Decision. They also focused on getting the game done rather than adding VR
Which was a terrible idea, especially since you have to pay cash or grind certs to buy new weapons and there is no option to undo a choice.

- Inventory system * Design Decision. Personally, I think the class system is far better than PS1's inventory for a number of reasons.
That's open for debate. Fact is that it was there, along with backpack looting and lockers.

- A fully working metagame * Lack of continents makes a meaningful metagame very hard
- Continent locks * Only 3 continents doesn't allow this to work in a meaningful way in PS2
Which is exactly the point. PS1 already suffered from the "no end goal" issue, so why make it even worse in the second game?

- A working resource system (NTU) * Added in a patch in PS1. Were not in at launch
Present at launch. Some of the first things I did in PS1 was ANT runs.

- a global weather system * Did this ever work? Whenever I played it was nothing or turned off
It worked. Thunderstorms and rain on Amerish/ Forseral. Duststorms on Oshur and Ishundar. You could see weather fronts moving across the global map as green, yellow and red circles to indicate intensity.

- Defendable bases * But not interesting. Lets fight over a long tunnel with no cover
As opposed to swiss cheese and Liberator camped spawns?

- 5 different base types * All of them were the saaaammmee
Have you seen the bases in PS2? They are all the same as well. Only the outposts are different.

- A global lattice * Added in Aftershock
Wrong. Fully working in late beta. Aftershock had this stupid bending to make it a constellation instead of a planet.


So no. No rose tinted glasses here my friend!

[Rivenshield]

>This restriction would go away if we ever pursue adding Sanctuaries.
Well, at least they're broaching the topic. That's something. Next thing you know they'll broach the idea of having, like, some kind of power system, like a nanite ley line, connecting all the bases together.... and it channelizes the zergs at each other, and if your base gets surrounded, it starts to run out of nanites....

/rubs hands

As a loyal Terran, I have to say it's bullshit that the Vanu MAX won't get jump jets for its special ability. You trade the armament on one arm, you get jump jets with a slower regen than HA. What's wrong with that? If they need to nerf it a bit more, then sacrifice a bit of armor. But Vanoob Maxes JUMP. Anything else is a separatist plot.

/folds arms, scowls

[Phantomdestiny]

That's by choice. Totally depends on the amount of detail you want to put into it. You can either have one ultra-detailed continent or have 6 lesser detailed continents but a working meta game. The former will produce great screenshots. The latter will produce great gameplay and can still easily be improved with some art passes later on.


Warpgate is not the same as Sanctuary. Not by a longshot.


Which was a terrible idea, especially since you have to pay cash or grind certs to buy new weapons and there is no option to undo a choice.


That's open for debate. Fact is that it was there, along with backpack looting and lockers.


Which is exactly the point. PS1 already suffered from the "no end goal" issue, so why make it even worse in the second game?


Present at launch. Some of the first things I did in PS1 was ANT runs.


It worked. Thunderstorms and rain on Amerish/ Forseral. Duststorms on Oshur and Ishundar. You could see weather fronts moving across the global map as green, yellow and red circles to indicate intensity.


As opposed to swiss cheese and Liberator camped spawns?


Have you seen the bases in PS2? They are all the same as well. Only the outposts are different.


Wrong. Fully working in late beta. Aftershock had this stupid bending to make it a constellation instead of a planet.


So no. No rose tinted glasses here my friend!

did you Sir just disregarded my post completely?

[Aveox]

there is one thing you people are not noticing are you? they want a simple game on release with no meta game. do you seriously think that new people are gone understand a full meta game like ps1 from the get go well NO .

So what SOE is doing is making a simple game which resembles bf in order to get new players in when the players are hocked .

Then they put the real game in which they will learn easier ; rather than having a EVE like game right in their face which is overwhelming for a lot of people.

I'd say to hell with simple. The dumbing down and hand holding of games is slowly getting ridiculous. If I want simple I'll go watch the latest Michael Bay movie.
And yes, people will understand a full meta game like PS1. That's why we are here, discussing PS2: Because there were plenty of people that did understand PS1 metagame and played it for years as a result. Complexity is not always a bad thing.

[Phantomdestiny]

I'd say to hell with simple. The dumbing down and hand holding of games is slowly getting ridiculous. If I want simple I'll go watch the latest Michael Bay movie.
And yes, people will understand a full meta game like PS1. That's why we are here, discussing PS2: Because there were plenty of people that did understand PS1 metagame and played it for years as a result. Complexity is not always a bad thing.

as i said you did disregard it . the mmo isn't just about us the vets who have played ps1 and understand it . it is the for the new players too . so people should stop being egocentric . They should want what's best for the game in the LONG term . tbh i rather have my meta game at this passe , they are doing it now than having the amazing gameplay of ps1 just to have the game fail because new players can't get into the game .

PS1 failed because of horrible advertising and a too steep learning curve for the average person . If we get people in game now and they stick then we can thrown in all the good and complex things which are a good thing you are right but everything has a right time to come in

[SwiftRanger]

If PS1 is really that good then why aren't the complainers playing it?:)

The list is good for the most part (only missing Searhus, really weird that one). At least you get intel here, I don't think other MMO developers would ever try to do this, it's quite insane and maybe even counterproductive but that is something we'll have to see in the end.

As for all the "should have been in at release", "they've got loads of cash and developers, why doesn't it go faster", "where is that aircraft carrier", "I want MY feature in it NOW", "PS1 had 10 continents, PS2 only 3, I can't understand this/don't know anything about how much more polygons/work go into a modern cutting edge FPS compared to a FPS of 2003 with rather poor graphics"-statements... get a life, lads.

Yes, the game definitely could have used a few months of extra time (let's say updates 01 and 02 should have been in at release) but just for bug fixes/optimization/general stuff, it's pretty decent already. SOE couldn't wait forever before opening up the microtransactions, besides the Alpha Squad deal it didn't make them money in beta. No other developer can make things go perfect in a few days, let alone months. Not even Blizzard. This isn't a traditional MMO tech-wise either, it's new tech and with such detail and such big crowds on the screen it has to be much harder. Is it earning enough money to keep full development going? I am having my doubts. I don't think PS2 is that successful, population levels are dropping and a poor tutorial/shitty "veteran" reactions dissing the game completely on forums like these are chasing new folks away.

Be happy with what you get (for free!) as PS2 is already a lot more enticing than other multiplayer shooters out there imo.

[seanman]

http://www.planetside2.com/roadmap

Full URL

thx mate :)..
PSU will discuss it too?

[Crator]

Nice to see they integrated the system with the official forums!

[Aveox]

as i said you did disregard it . the mmo isn't just about us the vets who have played ps1 and understand it . it is the for the new players too . so people should stop being egocentric . They should want what's best for the game in the LONG term . tbh i rather have my meta game at this passe , they are doing it now than having the amazing gameplay of ps1 just to have the game fail because new players can't get into the game .

PS1 failed because of horrible advertising and a too steep learning curve for the average person . If we get people in game now and they stick then we can thrown in all the good and complex things which are a good thing you are right but everything has a right time to come in

Have you ever considered that new people might be joining Planetside 2 because of the potential complexity it offers? My outfit has several brand new players in it that specifically came to PS2 because it supposedly offered more then "shoot people in the face." Can you imagine the disappointment when the game turns out to be nothing more then an upscaled Sci-Fi BF3? That is why people don't stick around. Big battles draw them in. Depth of gameplay keeps them in. One of those two is missing.

As for learning curve: Ofcourse you cannot expect a new player to fully understand the game in the first few hours. But that's what tutorials are for. PS1 had a tutorial. It also had a decent sized manual which explained all the basics. By the time you read through the manual during installation and followed the tutorial you knew how the game worked and how its basic systems interacted. The rest you learned by doing. I mean: How hard can it be to pop up a somewhat decent PDF manual upon first launch?

Oh, and if you read the road map carefully, you'll see continent locks in March (which is just silly without sanctuaries and 3 continents) and Hossin in April (Searhus has apparently vanished). So we're not getting anything resembling meta game in this pass. We're expected to wait another 4 months.

PS1 didnt fail because of a steep learning curve. It failed (as you mentioned) because of horrible advertising, but also because of two equally horrible expansions. After that they partly removed the meta game and game features (removed NTU drain, removed global lattice for broadcast warpgates, cut up the planet, removed weather systems, reduced HART timers, added facility warnings and continent populations), supposedly to make the game easier to get into, and then they added BR25 and BR40 which pretty much removed any specialisation that existed. On top of that you needed a super computer to run it and pay 13 Euro's a month which, especially in the first few years, was unheard of for a shooter. All of that killed Planetside, and not a steep learning curve.
Heck, if learning curves would have been an issue then EVE online should have been dead by now.

[Vashyo]

Some good changes, some changes I don't care about, and some bad ones. Many of those changes are mostly bandaids that wont drastically make the game better, but just fix an issue. So we are stuck playing BF-mmo atleast for the next 6 months.

Dynamic XP isn't really dynamic, feels very half-assed...wish it was as elaborate XP system as PS1. Most people are gonna be worth 100XP or less so we get even less XP than we do now. It's gonna take even longer to unlock anything. Should go well above 300XP for someone who has been libing the shit out of +50 guys.

Only 1 buggy, awwww...I want mah enforcer :(

@the complexity convo

Complex metagame with multitude of mechanics = made PS1 fun, takes you much longer to get bored than just shooting people in the face 24/7 at crown. You actually feel the tactical/strategic aspect of the game.

PS2 might evolve for the better, who knows but first 6 months it's not gonna be drastically better.

[Xaine]

Thats their 6 month plan?

Holy shit. The game is boring as fuck already.

[Rolfski]

Took me an hour to study all the plans:

70% very good/good
20% ok/no priority
10% bad


Generally, this game is going in the right direction, except for the uninspiring weapon types (heavy pistols, pump action shotguns, etc.) they are planning to add.

[Utne]

All the defensive implementations are a welcome addition in my book. I love a good siege (being on either side is usually a whole lotta fun compared to roaming around looking for skirmishes).

Only wish there were some news for infiltrators.. I miss ps1 style infiltration. This sniper-fetish they've got going is terrible, and I'll probably just shelve my inf for now unless they add something to make it worthwhile.

[Dougnifico]

I can't really look at the thing right now because 403 but from the bit Bear posted (Thanks Bear!) I just want to get one thing off my chest right quick about daily achievements.

Dear SOE,
Fuck you. Fuck you in your fucking face. Why the fucking shit are you adding this stupid bullshit to the god damn game? Fuck your daily achievements and their stupid fucking medals (or whatever they end up giving you) and the whole piece of shit daily achievement system. That's not a real reason to play this game, It's artificial as fuck and adds little to nothing of value. As soon as I get the chance I'm going to downvote the absolute piss out of this just to see what happens because fuck that stupid silly shit.

Make the game more enjoyable to play, add depth for fucks sake. Don't dick us around with stupid fucking mechanics and systems like daily mother fucking achievements. Daily achievements, why don't you just come to my house and take a shit on my computer, saw open my brain and then stick your dick into that small soft spot where I keep my good memories of what Planetside used to be like?
What the fucking fuck.

Love,
bpostal

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[nurizeko]

as i said you did disregard it . the mmo isn't just about us the vets who have played ps1 and understand it . it is the for the new players too . so people should stop being egocentric . They should want what's best for the game in the LONG term . tbh i rather have my meta game at this passe , they are doing it now than having the amazing gameplay of ps1 just to have the game fail because new players can't get into the game .

PS1 failed because of horrible advertising and a too steep learning curve for the average person . If we get people in game now and they stick then we can thrown in all the good and complex things which are a good thing you are right but everything has a right time to come in

To be fair I found the learning curve of PS1 at least fun/attention holding, and I didn't find it THAT steep.

I agree with your sentiments, this isn't a case of PS1 vets being stuck in the past, it's a case of people immediately comparing the glaring failings of PS2 with it's namesake.

Ps1 was far from perfect, but people still remember it because at it's heart it was a good FUN game.


In PS1 even dying a lot was kinda enjoyable when it was part of a good push to an enemy base, a gamble for their generator, when every death was tying up the enemy and helping our team overrun an enemy, like tower fights.

This is compared to PS2 where dying is just more often then not frustrating and boring. Nothing is achieved, the unstoppable zerg is not slowed, the indefensible bases are no more defended.

I'm not gonna spiel about all the problems, they have been covered in great detail by many before me (I'm lurker here, hi) but SOE definitely could do much much more. If anything else the 'meta-game' needs some serious attention ASAP such as hex-to-lattice or something, capture mechanics, base layouts, etc.

Just getting the game to a suitably playable state (that is both sides in a fight are getting to play and participate rather than one side sitting in a boring spawn camp and the other being XP fodder) should be the first and only priority right now, then every other concern can be dealt with at relative leisure.

[Chefkoch]

I miss Old Voice Macros and Old PS1 Style Platoon Overview and Outfit Tab.

[outsider]

I wasn't expecting this when I was waiting for the 6 months plan. I can't say I like it.

I was expecting bolder brush strocks, a prosaic expansion on how some of the larger elements in the game that are missing, or under develloped, will be implemented and how they will interconnect to form a whole.

I think it totally obtuse, having different discussions on seperate elements of the game, expecting they can ever be brought together to form a greater whole. The role of Outfit is tied into base dynamic is tied into resource is tied into metagame is tied into the a players manifest purpose. To have a plan, you have to talk about those things together, the threads of discussion need to be about how to make them fit so they complement the whole game. They are not independant features but have a synergy.

I had 2 questions I was hoping would be answered with the roadmap:

1) Why should I join an Outfit ?
2) What can I do when I no longer have to grind certs ?

But instead of getting answers or directions I could get behind, I've been given a couple more forum threads to participate in where the community talk about the same stuff we've already been talking about for 6 months. I'm done talking.

[bpostal]

Have you ever considered that new people might be joining Planetside 2 because of the potential complexity it offers?

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Oh, and if you read the road map carefully, you'll see continent locks in March (which is just silly without sanctuaries and 3 continents) and Hossin in April (Searhus has apparently vanished). So we're not getting anything resembling meta game in this pass. We're expected to wait another 4 months.
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Potential being the key word there. So far PS2 has been slow to capitalize and/or fulfill that potential and it's frustrating as fuck to see.

As for the cont locks/metagame, yeah. I'm with ya there. Not happy.

[MrBloodworth]

If PS1 is really that good then why aren't the complainers playing it?:)

We did, for 10+ years.

Then they said they were updating it, then we got Planetside 2, And this is where we are. Forward is the only direction.

[Hamma]

Nostalgia is quite a powerful thing.

[Hyncharas]

TBH I'm not keen on a Flamethrower, particularly if the plume causes as much a drop in framerate as smoke flares sometimes do.

Instead I'm more interested in a Thumper-variant that can fire Incendiary charges at troops, Auraxium charges to damage armor on vehicles, and EMP charges to cripple shields. That way you could have a MAX outfitted with one Thumper and AV weapon to attack vehicles, or a Thumper and an AI weapon to suppress infantry...

You could then unlock grenade types with cert points, but restrict players from using more than one in their loadout (i.e. the grenade type would act as a mod), so they'd need multiple MAXes to affect infantry and armor at the same time.