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Pella
2013-02-20, 07:52 AM
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/304207140019654656

bpostal
2013-02-20, 07:54 AM
I guess that means back to login queues.

KaskaMatej
2013-02-20, 07:58 AM
I guess that means back to login queues.

Last time I saw a login queue was a week after launch, and I play on Mattherson.

Pella
2013-02-20, 08:08 AM
Makes sense. It will up the premium membership subs.

tastyberrypunch
2013-02-20, 08:11 AM
I play on Lithcorp and I welcome this news.

Morsong
2013-02-20, 08:12 AM
More people at all times is good news. That is if the servers can handle prime time which I'm sure they will. They'll just fight on other continents hopefully.

psijaka
2013-02-20, 08:15 AM
Excellent news, and good decision to merge and then allow transfers.

ChipMHazard
2013-02-20, 08:23 AM
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle, they did end up calling it server merging. Good on them for finally doing this.
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/tumblr_lo2zqb6h5P1qzsyre.gif
This certainly deserves some applause.

Hamma
2013-02-20, 08:34 AM
Updated OP with direct Twitter Link.

Micro
2013-02-20, 08:40 AM
ERMAHGERD? Already?!
*calms down*
Ah, I see. 80 percent of the servers have a "Low" population...
Hope they could merge Cobalt and Miller, would make a great new server imo. :D

Lukor
2013-02-20, 08:46 AM
ERMAHGERD? Already?!
*calms down*
Ah, I see. 80 percent of the servers have a "Low" population...
Hope they could merge Cobalt and Miller, would make a great new server imo. :D

I would assume that Miller might be one of the few servers not getting merged. It's the largest server in the world after all (pretty cool if they did though, i play on Miller).

CraazyCanuck
2013-02-20, 08:46 AM
Fantastic news. I have yet to partake in any large battles on Amerish but the facilities there look better designed for defense across the board or at least the terrain lends more defense. Seen some daunting base locations that could be near crown worthy for infantry slug fests if only we could get enough people to give them a whirl. Would be a fresh change from Indar. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Ironside
2013-02-20, 08:59 AM
well i'm pleasantly surprised, thought they were gonna fleece us and make us pay for the pleasure

Ghoest9
2013-02-20, 09:00 AM
I hope they dont combine Matherson and Waterston.

Dkamanus
2013-02-20, 09:11 AM
At least they got this part right. Would be just TOO stupid to actually allow transfer before doing merges. There are just too many servers online. From this, they might open up servers again in the future, when the game is more consolidated.

I hope they dont combine Matherson and Waterston.

Doubt it, both are the most populated servers. They'll probably throw the low servers onto Mattherson and Waterson.

CrazEpharmacist
2013-02-20, 09:20 AM
Well Smedly just gained a lot of respect from me. Really good move, glad they are finally doing it. Can't wait to get some big battles, may even buy some station cash now :P

Gimpylung
2013-02-20, 09:33 AM
This is good news for the game and the existing playerbase, and as was stated earlier, consolidates things and hopefully will allow for a more committed playerbase, as opposed to the curious types who played it for 2hours at launch because it was f2p.

I'm concerned how it will be perceived beyond us however. Generally when I hear about server merges in an MMO that I'm not involved it, it gives me the impression the game is in trouble and to avoid it.

Hopefully, SOE have a strategy to counter this impression.

james
2013-02-20, 09:36 AM
This is good news for the game and the existing playerbase, and as was stated earlier, consolidates things and hopefully will allow for a more committed playerbase, as opposed to the curious types who played it for 2hours at launch because it was f2p.

I'm concerned how it will be perceived beyond us however. Generally when I hear about server merges in an MMO that I'm not involved it, it gives me the impression the game is in trouble and to avoid it.

Hopefully, SOE have a strategy to counter this impression.

The game is in slight troble looking at player numbers, the steam numbers are bombing. This is a right step to stop the bleeding though

IceColdBlood
2013-02-20, 09:42 AM
Us Briggs players are going to be very left out...

Sonny
2013-02-20, 09:43 AM
I'm really happy about this. I hope that this will stop them bleeding away players on the low-pop servers and give everyone the chance to have a good fight.

Nice one devs, once again!

CrazEpharmacist
2013-02-20, 09:46 AM
Us Briggs players are going to be very left out...

Ah, you're right. There's no one to merge into for you guys. That kinda sucks..

Hmr85
2013-02-20, 10:26 AM
Awesome news. It should make the fights a lot more interesting. Also, I can't wait to hopefully finally get off Indar.

Riekopo
2013-02-20, 10:41 AM
2 servers per region?

Silent Thunder
2013-02-20, 10:58 AM
Glad to see they're doing this. Problem with this type of game is unlike PVE MMOs, low server pops basically kill the funfactor. Cant really go with 5 of your buddies on a dead continent and have fun the way you can in an empty area in WoW (Or godforbid DC Universe Online XD ) for instance.

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 11:18 AM
Bad news.

Current game is Indar-side.

Pops from merged servers will still want to play Indar-side, now Indar-side becomes Queue-side for those that want to play Indar-side, not Amerish/Esamir-side.

They can't play Indar-side, they stop playing, even if the pops are up, they can't play where they want.

You can say what you like about how you play the game but the majority of people are playing Indar-side and don't care.

I reckon there will be a larger than usual weekly drop in total pops a week after the merges.

Wargrim
2013-02-20, 11:20 AM
Finally! I just hope they will not just merge the lowest pop servers, but we will also get some fresh blood on Waterson.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 11:21 AM
Bad news.

Current game is Indar-side.

Pops from merged servers will still want to play Indar-side, now Indar-side becomes Queue-side for those that want to play Indar-side, not Amerish/Esamir-side.

They can't play Indar-side, they stop playing, even if the pops are up, they can't play where they want.

You can say what you like about how you play the game but the majority of people are playing Indar-side and don't care.

I reckon there will be a larger than usual weekly drop in total pops a week after the merges.

A Que on indar ensures play on the other contents. Indar is the worst map by far IMO. It should never have left beta.

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 11:37 AM
A Que on indar ensures play on the other contents. Indar is the worst map by far IMO. It should never have left beta.

It only ensures play on Esamir/Amerish if people want to play there, as shown by in game pop dist. they want Indarside.

I've not played on any other continent than Indar since the start of the year in the dozen or so times I've bothered logging in, there's no reason to, similarily, there's no reason to play Indarside BUT that's what your average player wants to play.

It's like in PS1 when asking people to recall to help defend/resecure a continent, the universal reply was: "Why? I'm having fun here." Everyone knows you can only ever have fun at one fight, right? (sarcasm)

Their logic is going to be: Hey, big fight on Indar, everyone must be having lots of fun there, I know I always do... hmm Esamir/Amerish have some fights but I don't like them, I'll sit in the queue and wait for the fight I know I will have fun at.

So some will sit in the queue, some will go fight on Esamir/Amerish and some will log off.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 11:41 AM
People play on indar because that's where the fights are. Your conclusion that people will log off if they can't play on indar is a fantasy. Antecedal: My entire outfit is tired of playing on indar and prefer amerish more. We play indar because that's where the fights are, no other reason.

KaskaMatej
2013-02-20, 11:45 AM
It only ensures play on Esamir/Amerish if people want to play there, as shown by in game pop dist. they want Indarside.

No, people want a fight and only fight can be found on Indar. People are getting sick of Indar and because they can't find a fight anywhere else than on Indar, they leave.

Assist
2013-02-20, 11:56 AM
Bad news.

Current game is Indar-side.

Pops from merged servers will still want to play Indar-side, now Indar-side becomes Queue-side for those that want to play Indar-side, not Amerish/Esamir-side.

They can't play Indar-side, they stop playing, even if the pops are up, they can't play where they want.

You can say what you like about how you play the game but the majority of people are playing Indar-side and don't care.

I reckon there will be a larger than usual weekly drop in total pops a week after the merges.

People only play Indar because there is no fight on Amerish or Esamir. Most people feel that is because there is simply not enough people per server. Personally I think that's part of it, but really I feel that it's more that the only continent benefit worth having is on Indar so why should we fight over something else? Other things in this game need to be fixed to prevent the main war from being only on Indar, but merging is certainly a move in the right direction to accomplish that.

Dodgy Commando
2013-02-20, 11:59 AM
Exactly, people play on Indar because that's where most of the fighting currently takes place. Hence the lack of incentive to fight elsewhere. Once the merges take place, this will hopefully provide enough numbers to create new firefights elsewhere.

Personally, once a fight gets too big for my rig to handle the game crashes (happened just after the last major patch - hasn't since except once recently). I'm looking forward to the change of scenery with the expected result of bigger populations, I certainly don't want to play crash-side!

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 12:07 PM
Pray tell, why did people leave in the first place to such an extent that only fights were/are available on Indar... now tell me, has anything really changed with the game to stop people from leaving? You can list all the changes you like, I still see the game playing out EXACTLY like it always has done.

If they played on Indar because of 'The Crown', nothing changes, if they play Indar simply because they spawn there, then nothing changes if you make them spawn on Amerish/Esamir instead, you'll still have people massing on the spawn cont, or more likely, they go off to pop-lock Indar.

Like I said, YOU on this forum can say what you like/how you play, the majority don't care. You're all temporarily distracted by the prospect of 'zomg high pops' that you're forgetting the flaws causing the player bleed.

14 servers: hey guys, pops are great
3 months later
8 servers: hey guys, pops are great
3 months later
3 server: hey guys, pops are great

Silent Thunder
2013-02-20, 12:07 PM
Case in point you can usually find a somewhat decent fight on Esamir once Miller's Indar fills up during the weekends. The problem is on any other server, there isnt enough spillover into the next continent to justify not trying to get back to Indar.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 12:08 PM
Bobby Shaftoe, why do you want PS2 to fail? Do you not enjoy the game?

maradine
2013-02-20, 12:12 PM
Woooooooooo!

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 12:22 PM
Bobby Shaftoe, why do you want PS2 to fail? Do you not enjoy the game?
So we go from me making observations, to me wanting the game to fail? It's not really a case of what I want, it's what the playerbase is doing and continuing to do so since release, fall.

Do you want the game to succeed?

Gushing over the fact they're condensing the remaining pops into fewer servers and acting like that is going to save the game is naive at best.

PS2 is a fun enough distraction when not playing LoL/EVE/Warframe and a bunch of indie games.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 12:28 PM
You seem to be cheering for failure. I find it odd.

EVILPIG
2013-02-20, 12:33 PM
This is fantastic news and should not be viewed as a negative thing. If PS2 can draw more players then we can look at adding servers later.

ChipMHazard
2013-02-20, 12:40 PM
People only play Indar because there is no fight on Amerish or Esamir. Most people feel that is because there is simply not enough people per server. Personally I think that's part of it, but really I feel that it's more that the only continent benefit worth having is on Indar so why should we fight over something else? Other things in this game need to be fixed to prevent the main war from being only on Indar, but merging is certainly a move in the right direction to accomplish that.

I agree. While they most certainly need to actually make all continents worth taking and holding i.e. proper bonus for doing so. Indar was always the place to go if you wanted to find a fight, more often than not at the Crown.
Hopefully the merger will make it so that players will once again fight more or less equally on all the continents, hopefully.

Dodgy Commando
2013-02-20, 12:40 PM
Its reasonable to assume there are people out there who are tired of Indar and the Crown.

I also think I'm not the only one with a rig that may struggle once populations increase due to the merges.

These are all factors that lead me to expect more fights on other continents after the merges. Granted I don't have figures to back this up, its my personal feeling on what will happen.

I certainly don't deny PS2 still has a long way to go to make it a worthwhile game, nor the fact that a lot of people play for the grind, hence Indar-side.

So maybe I'm hopeful, I'm allowed to express that right?

Kiten
2013-02-20, 12:41 PM
Very glad to hear this. This is the right thing to do, good job SOE.

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 12:42 PM
You seem to be cheering for failure. I find it odd.

Are you a fanboy? I find it odd you get het up about someone pointing out the playerbase' actions.

SolLeks
2013-02-20, 12:42 PM
=0! We will get of INDAR!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY (I would keep going for a few pages, but I don't want to spam ^_^ )

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 12:43 PM
Are you a fanboy?

Nope, I'm likely one of the more critical posters. But that's different then trying to punish the developers for daring to make a game I may enjoy.

You are also still wrong by the way.

Lonehunter
2013-02-20, 12:51 PM
If any more TR are added to Waterson I'm afraid I'd be willing to let go of the character I've spent all my $ on and start on another server

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 12:54 PM
If any more TR are added to Waterson I'm afraid I'd be willing to let go of the character I've spent all my $ on and start on another server

You may not have to. As server transfers are coming after that, and so are account wide unlocks.

No loss there.

psijaka
2013-02-20, 12:56 PM
People only play Indar because there is no fight on Amerish or Esamir. Most people feel that is because there is simply not enough people per server. Personally I think that's part of it, but really I feel that it's more that the only continent benefit worth having is on Indar so why should we fight over something else? Other things in this game need to be fixed to prevent the main war from being only on Indar, but merging is certainly a move in the right direction to accomplish that.

Wrong.

I play Indar because it has the best and most complex hex system and has the most variation in terrain.

I quickly lost interest in Esamir after it was launched because of the dumbed down Hex system and dreary landscape; this was whilst the continent was still very popular.

And whilst Amerish is beautiful, the Hex system is still oversimplified and a lot of the terrain has nothing in it; the idea might be to concentrate the fights but this meant that large areas of the map had nothing in them to speak of. Might as well have been designed on a map half the size. Again, I lost interest and moved back to Indar before the pop crashed.

ShadetheDruid
2013-02-20, 12:58 PM
If any more TR are added to Waterson I'm afraid I'd be willing to let go of the character I've spent all my $ on and start on another server

You won't have to worry about that. Smed has said (or indicated rather, as a reply to someone with that same concern) that one of the main deciding factors for the merging is faction population, so they don't create imbalances (or make them worse, in Waterson's case).

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 01:02 PM
Wrong.

I play Indar because it has the best and most complex hex system and has the most variation in terrain.

Nope.

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 01:04 PM
Nope, I'm likely one of the more critical posters. But that's different then trying to punish the developers for daring to make a game I may enjoy.

You are also still wrong by the way.

Not likely.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 01:05 PM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just calk it up to too much X-files and an over active imagination.

Bobby Shaftoe
2013-02-20, 01:07 PM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just calk it up to too much X-files and an over active imagination.

That's your best? You gotta try harder than that.

Crator
2013-02-20, 01:23 PM
I find this a good thing. More population on a single server is always a good thing. Bobby/MrBloodworth, troll much? Stop spamming the thread with nonsense and take it to PMs.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 01:26 PM
I'm not trolling.

People play indar because that's where the fights are. No one is going to cancel due to a que on indar. That's hyperbole. That, and the crown has become some sort of meme. Even though its one of the worst fights, but best farm. There are equivalents on the other conts that are much better bases for both attackers and defenders.

typhaon
2013-02-20, 01:30 PM
People play on Indar because BOTH a) it's where the fights are... and b) there's no real incentive to play anywhere else (ie. endgame). SOE tells us it's coming... continent locking, at the very least, is soon.

Relax. If PS2 settles down to 6, or so, servers of dedicated players... it's probably 100x more successful than PS1... nevermind just the benefits of shaking out Forgelight.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 01:32 PM
I look forward to continental locking, perhaps people will finally see that indar was literately a beta map.

Rolfski
2013-02-20, 01:34 PM
I hope they don't merge anything into Miller. I like it as it is already.

maradine
2013-02-20, 01:49 PM
I play on Indar because it has the most ground clutter to lose tails in. But, if I play on another continent, there's nothing to tail you. ITS A CONUNDRUM.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 01:50 PM
I play on Indar because it has the most ground clutter to lose tails in. But, if I play on another continent, there's nothing to tail you. ITS A CONUNDRUM.

You mean air?

Sirisian
2013-02-20, 01:50 PM
I hope they dont combine Matherson and Waterston.
Maybe we'll have 666v666v666 fights this time if they do. I'd be for it if both servers have a population that sums to less than 6K with even populations during prime-time.

ColdCheese
2013-02-20, 02:02 PM
Best news I've heard all day, I salute you Smedley

Dougnifico
2013-02-20, 02:04 PM
I think Connery could easily consume a couple west coast servers. Send us Helios, would give the VS a pop buff and even out the empires.

Loban
2013-02-20, 02:15 PM
I think Connery could easily consume a couple west coast servers. Send us Helios, would give the VS a pop buff and even out the empires.

Yes, Helios needs help. Esamir and Amerish are always deserted. Also, I find it strange that VS was the population majority at first, but now it's NC.

Shamrock
2013-02-20, 02:27 PM
I think its a smart move in that it will save many players from being marooned in low pop servers. Yes they need to address the fundamentals causing the player bleed, but this will buy them some time to do it.

bpostal
2013-02-20, 02:33 PM
...this will buy them some time to do it.

Agreed. Although it'll probably push the rendering issues back into the limelight (if they were ever out of it.)

Mox
2013-02-20, 02:34 PM
Interesting to see SOE accepting that there will no outstanding growth in the near future. They may focus more on the needs of the current customers....

ColdCheese
2013-02-20, 02:44 PM
Interesting to see SOE accepting that there will no outstanding growth in the near future. They may focus more on the needs of the current customers....

it doesn't mean they can't always expand if need be, regardless of what the future holds for this game, this was badly needed now. MLG could potentially breath new life into the game and SOE is clearly banking on it so we'll see.

MrBloodworth
2013-02-20, 02:44 PM
Interesting to see SOE accepting that there will no outstanding growth in the near future. They may focus more on the needs of the current customers....

This does not exclude more growth, as with each continent adds 2000 more player capacity.

Vashyo
2013-02-20, 03:38 PM
glad to see this finally being done, much needed. Only miller is the server which reaches high population these days. :/

Hoping to get some Amerish action going on

ruskyandrei
2013-02-20, 04:40 PM
Anyone else hoping they merge the names too ?

Like "Ceres" + "Woodman" = "Cerman"/"Woodres" ! :lol:

SixShooter
2013-02-20, 04:44 PM
Interesting to see SOE accepting that there will no outstanding growth in the near future.

It's not like they merge the servers and then take the unused servers and throw them in the sea...

Assist
2013-02-20, 04:51 PM
Anyone else hoping they merge the names too ?

Like "Ceres" + "Woodman" = "Cerman"/"Woodres" ! :lol:

Waterson + Mattherson = Watherson/Matterson .... :( I'm hoping for something like... US East :P

ChrisLand
2013-02-20, 04:55 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

I know we do not have the details yet and I don't want to jump to conclusions but...this is fantastic news.

Player populations with always fluctuate but I would be more then happy to wait in a queue to join a fully populated server then ghost cap esamir all day.

The worst possible outcome of this is overpopulation in which you can just add another server...that is a much better problem to have over what we have now imo.

Chefkoch
2013-02-20, 04:56 PM
I hope they will just make it to 1-2 Servers per Region and add Hossin + Continent locking quickly.

OCNSethy
2013-02-20, 05:08 PM
@ Hamma,

Does this mean anything for Briggs? There are numerous Oceanic servers but it appears Briggs is the only active one...

Badjuju
2013-02-20, 05:20 PM
Thank god. I am not sure how much more I could take. I was on the verge of quitting out of sheer boredom. If I hadn't played PS1 I would have been long gone. Trying to keep hopes high though.

camycamera
2013-02-20, 06:08 PM
good news for Americans etc, but we already get huge battles on Briggs :P

artifice
2013-02-20, 06:22 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

I know we do not have the details yet and I don't want to jump to conclusions but...this is fantastic news.

Player populations with always fluctuate but I would be more then happy to wait in a queue to join a fully populated server then ghost cap esamir all day.

The worst possible outcome of this is overpopulation in which you can just add another server...that is a much better problem to have over what we have now imo.

The problem is that a lot of people's complaints are a lack of population during off hours and too many people running in the zerg. This isn't really going to solve either. This isn't exactly the type of game where people stay up all night raiding and people will run in a zerg no matter what you do.

DirtyBird
2013-02-20, 08:56 PM
All hypothetical.

Connery + Helios + Genudine = You'll have to fight on different continents then.

Wouldnt be surprised if Briggs gets thrown into the mix as well to give it that true 24/7 battle.
Briggs, imo, has a smaller pop that Genudine and would probably lose players if it merged with the west coast.
IF, they merged Briggs I assume they are hoping those who invested SC or continue to purchase cosmetic items will still play on.
It probably wouldn't matter to SOE if those who don't spend anything didn't come across.

There is always server transfers later on.

Fenrys
2013-02-20, 09:32 PM
It was nice not having any queues for a little bit.

Xaine
2013-02-20, 09:35 PM
Not too surprised.

Maybe if they actually add some meaningful content, the game won't lack players.

Koadster
2013-02-20, 09:42 PM
I hope they dont combine Matherson and Waterston.

I imagine they will leave matherson, waterston & connery alone. They will properly merge 2-3 really really low pop servers like cobalt & genudine to get 1 medium pop server

Skittles
2013-02-20, 10:18 PM
You people are certainly some unicorn and bigfoot believing optimists arent you?

Shaftfoot and some others are right this is not some kind of magic recipe that is going to turn this game around and create some form of epic gameplay all the sudden.

All this will do is create another revenue stream short term for SOE-PS2 while not ACTUALLY addressing anything that is glaringly wrong with the game. From there the only significant difference will be that once again there will be 60+ lopsided populations on 2 continents that arent Indar.

Then within a very short period of time, say 2 weeks, pops will be as they are now where everyone is attempting to make haste to the Crown. Oh, sure, there might be a que for a week, at most to get on Indar, but then, poof, nothing, until the week after when SOE will once again announce either 2x XP weekend, or a 2x SC weekend.
While in the mean time, PS2 will still be bleeding individuals unwilling to put up with ques or weak lopsided fights on non-Crown having continents.

Anymore "successful" launches like this 3 month after release server merges, and SOE may just start making bids on Microsoft, Google and Oracle because of all the moola they're racking in.

seanman
2013-02-20, 10:21 PM
Briggs server just the only one oceanic server but most of the pop is zerg played at indar and crown
90% played indar and 70% of pop indar at crown, ti alloy, crossroad.
Hope briggs get merge too

Hamma
2013-02-20, 10:26 PM
I imagine they will leave matherson, waterston & connery alone. They will properly merge 2-3 really really low pop servers like cobalt & genudine to get 1 medium pop server

Yea I can't see them doing anything with those two servers.

Sirisian
2013-02-20, 10:32 PM
Waterson + Mattherson = Watherson/Matterson .... :( I'm hoping for something like... US East :P
Jaeger + Matterson + SolTech + Waterson = Emerald

Someone brought it up. It's an easy decision really seeing as all of those servers combined have a population < 6K during prime-time. Then when April comes around we'd have 2K more added to the cap. Then Searhus adds 2K more again.

OCNSethy
2013-02-20, 10:41 PM
Briggs server just the only one oceanic server but most of the pop is zerg played at indar and crown
90% played indar and 70% of pop indar at crown, ti alloy, crossroad.
Hope briggs get merge too

Be careful what you wish for,,,

Im enjoying lag free gaming ATM on Briggs.

If we merge with a US based server, I fear we may that loose that lag free experience.

Its hard enough trying to play games on off-shore servers due to lag and ping issues... pls dont screw this up SOE.

Mox
2013-02-21, 01:57 AM
Edit: Sorry i double posted.

Mox
2013-02-21, 02:22 AM
it doesn't mean they can't always expand if need be, regardless of what the future holds for this game, this was badly needed now. MLG could potentially breath new life into the game and SOE is clearly banking on it so we'll see.

This does not exclude more growth, as with each continent adds 2000 more player capacity.

It's not like they merge the servers and then take the unused servers and throw them in the sea...

My dear naive friends,

Do you really think SOE would send a signal of stagnation out to the world if they still see a chance to fillup the servers soon? No never!
Server merges are the last step. It show us that the game's population peak lies behind us. I dont say that there is no chance for future growth. The MGL deal may offer such growth. However, this deal need months to be implemented.

By the way, if you ask me i would say there are signs that SOE have already reduced the number of staff working on ps2 significantly. I think they are all working on eq next now. Ps2 instead is now in the cash cow mode (i.e. only investions in cashshop items). Look at the current mini patch! Thats not a general game update thats a bugfix with some new guns. Maybe we can be happy if we even see hossin or searhus ( probably in the cashshop) one day...

Climhazzard
2013-02-21, 03:07 AM
Jaeger + Matterson + SolTech + Waterson = Emerald

Someone brought it up. It's an easy decision really seeing as all of those servers combined have a population < 6K during prime-time. Then when April comes around we'd have 2K more added to the cap. Then Searhus adds 2K more again.

As far as US East servers go, I see only three possibilities:


They merge SolTech and Jaeger into Mattherson and Waterson.
They merge SolTech and Jaeger together.
They do absolutely nothing.


I do think the last option is a possibility. With the eventual continent locking mechanic (which is potentially coming before Hossin), filling servers to capacity would present the very real problem of potentially putting a significant number of players into a queue.

MercDT
2013-02-21, 08:07 PM
Can someone enlighten me on the Jaeger server pop distribution during prime time?

Kirotan
2013-02-21, 09:35 PM
Can someone enlighten me on the Jaeger server pop distribution during prime time?

Fairly healthy. Indar fills up, and platoons can be found across Esamir and Amerish. The populations were balanced until recently (Magrider nerfs caused the 4th empire to leave the VS).

Being a Jaeger player, I guess Waterson is better than Matherson as far as TR is concerned. Having drastically more TR will make the fights boring, but it's better than dealing with The Enclave. (Not that I have any personal problems with them, but there's too much bad press there).

MercDT
2013-02-21, 10:02 PM
Waterson still has a large TR pop but like you said it has to be significantly better than Matherson. Thanks for the info.

Mastodon
2013-02-21, 10:14 PM
Fairly healthy. Indar fills up, and platoons can be found across Esamir and Amerish. The populations were balanced until recently (Magrider nerfs caused the 4th empire to leave the VS).

Being a Jaeger player, I guess Waterson is better than Matherson as far as TR is concerned. Having drastically more TR will make the fights boring, but it's better than dealing with The Enclave. (Not that I have any personal problems with them, but there's too much bad press there).

Vanu populations have, more often than not, been sub-30% during prime since before GU2. There was no noticable exodus of the "4th empire" from Vanu on Jaeger. There's just not that many Vanu and there probably never have been. TR and NC are about even in the mid to high 30s with NC probably having the edge.

I don't know about platoons across Esamir and Amerish. Maybe a platoon of one faction steam rolling empty hexes while a squad, maybe two tried in vain to defend.

Sledgecrushr
2013-02-21, 10:41 PM
Pray tell, why did people leave in the first place to such an extent that only fights were/are available on Indar... now tell me, has anything really changed with the game to stop people from leaving? You can list all the changes you like, I still see the game playing out EXACTLY like it always has done.

You see Bobby I have an issue with this statement. Ps2 has matured quite a lot in the last three months. We have had pretty major changes to every base and outpost in the game. Air power though still strong and dangerous is no longer the uber mass murder machines that they used to be. Planetside 2 has a different feel to it even now just three months after launch. I am confident this game will be big.

Sledgecrushr
2013-02-21, 10:42 PM
I play on Indar because it has the most ground clutter to lose tails in. But, if I play on another continent, there's nothing to tail you. ITS A CONUNDRUM.

Lol, some funny shit.

Vashyo
2013-02-23, 07:26 PM
Well I'm a bit miffed I chose Woodman as my server since it will not get merged with anything and we only get medium population on peak hours. I take it we're gonna be the new Genudine. Now when each other server gets merged and I suppose some of them will show HIGH-population on that character creation screen, nobody's gonna join Woodman. So I either have to pay to move to a bigger server or wait a few months until they merge with the smallest ones. Months upon months of extra Indar only time...sweet.

Dougnifico
2013-02-23, 07:36 PM
Yes, Helios needs help. Esamir and Amerish are always deserted. Also, I find it strange that VS was the population majority at first, but now it's NC.

Ya. I have an alt on Helios and, sorry, but its just not the same as Connery. We still do pretty well on Connery. I think it would be a good thing if we picked up some smaller west coast servers. Then you can help us get over the mass of 666 corpses. lol :D