This'll probably provoke a lot of arguing but..

[Nubi]

What side should I join?

Originally I had planned to join Vanu but the outfit I was gonna join rejected me and that was the only reason I was interested in Vanu really

I'm now thinking of joining TR because:

1) Most the peeps here seem to be joining TR
2) In E&B Beta I was a Terran (not a good reason to some but makes sense to me)
3) The weapons/vehicles I wanna use are all common pool for the most part
4) The Basilisk looks sexy (think it's called basilisk, the quad)

and there's more reasons but, yah

btw disregard my sig, if it shows

[diluted]

not a single reason has pointed to why terran heh.

terran- fast fire rate
nc- brute force
vanu- mobility

[Jakal]

first off every team gets the basilisk so thats not a good reason alot of the people here are terran but alot of that is the staff an CDL. The main deciding factor should be if you like the look of the team and their weapons. By the way:trrocks:. If your gonna join the tr check out the archangels in the outfit database.

[NeoTassadar]

1. How are common pool things making you want to join the Terran?
2. :vsrocks:
3. Our AV weapon (Lancer) is a viable substitute for Bolt Driver.
4. Why are you going with majority? It makes you individually weaker.
5. Hover vehicles.
6. Much more efficient equivelent of shotgun (Lasher).
7. We have Tobias, Dio, and Mr_luc. Plus me.
8. We're winning in the beta.
9. We attract the strategists.

[Zylos]

well, you should be NC imo.

im being them cause they look cool, their weapons are awsome and since (according to most polls i have seen) they are going to have to least people, (i've heard this somewhere) the team with the least people will get exp bonuses. can anyone confirm this?

[Zylos]

TR vehichles have to coolest paint jobs ;)

[MooKoo]

i am either TR or vanu probably vanu and i may not be able to play well but i can make you laugh while i take your kill :)

[Vis Armata]

Here's what I intend to do, when the time comes:

1. Figure out my playstyle.
2. Figure out which empire best suits my play style.
3. Join up.

[starrider]

hey Vanu look cooler and if your lookin for an outfit dont worry my out fit the ~Ghosts~ (http://planetsideghosts.cjb.net) are lookin. and dont join the TR cause of the CP wepons and stuff
they are Common Pool wepons everyone getss em not just the TR. and like i said we Vanu look better. come on you know you wanna join us.....dont you........DONT YOU????

[1024]

it all depends on personal preferance......just make the right choice, and im not promoting anyone..... NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC NC !!!!!!!!!!!!!

consider the NC ! :D

[1024]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar

8. We're winning in the beta.



not everyone is in th GAME YET!

soprry for the double psot

[starrider]

beta isnt the game

[Flameseeker]

For a good NC outfit, click my signature picture. Freedom Corp.
Reasons:
1. :ncrocks:
2. Gauss rifle, long range, high speed, death machine.
3. Vanguard, Biggest gun in the game on this tank.
4. Colors, Blue and Gold just are awesome
5. People, dedicated, and elite.
6. Phoenix, Best Rocket Launcher, player guided.
7. MAX suit, You get a huge shield with this MAX. Kool.
8. Outfits, Freedom Corp, New Dawn, and many more.
9. Storyline, fighting the good fight for Freedom. We have been oppressed for too long. Take a stand, today.
10. Other 2=Teh suck
Vanu=Purple spandex, need I say more?
TR=Power hungry goggle-wearers. Many newbs will join this, but many good players will too. NC=Good players, minimal newbs.

[Nubi]

Hmmm

1) didn't know TR was the majority
2) I might join Vanu after all, they seem to be the minority and I like a challenge
3) I always thought the Basilisk was TR restricted? I dunno, been out of PS for a while *checks the vehicle page* whoa all the vehicles have been released!
4) Didn't know the Lancer was as long ranged as the Bolt Driver?
5) If I do join Vanu I can always defect if I dun like it
6) I really don't care what the paint job looks like nor what the people look like, which is why I dun care if I'm purple lol

[Venoxile]

I'm not biased at all, i will be nc but i'm not biased to it.
My opinions =

1. NC Gauss is best anti infantry rifle, high damage, long range, good rate of fire.
2. Vanu Lancer best anti vehicle rifle, high damage, long range, instant hit, what more could you want from an anti vehicle rifle?
3. TR has coolest looking colors (in my opinion, gotta love crimson and black)
4. NC Phoenix is the worst empire specific rocket launcher because of the fact the player has to get cover in order to fire at practically any range.
5. Vanu Pulsar is the worst empire specific infantry rifle because the tr has the rate of fire advantage and the nc have the higher damage advantage.
6. (A guess) NC Jackhammer is probably the highest damage shotgun.
7. (Another guess) TR Max appears best against infantry due to dual cyclers...
8. If you're a pilot, go with the empire all your friends are on, it truely doesnt matter.
9. If you're a driver, consider what you like more, high damage (NC), high armor (TR), or maneuverability (VA)?\

EDIT: Oh, I just looked over the new planetside trailer about 5 times again. I noticed that the accuracy of the pulsar is incredible while moving. Could that be an advantage over the other assault rifles? Just a thought.


Just speculations, and that shit on the lancer being compared to a bolt driver is idiotic, there is no information on the lancer even being a little bit effective on infantry.

[mistled]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
7. We have Tobias, Dio, and Mr_luc. Plus me. And it's hard to go wrong with a couple of BOHICA members on your side. ;) (of course, whether or not they are on your side will depend on what server you end up playing)

[NeoTassadar]

Spike, BETA. B-E-T-A. Pronounced BAY-TAH. Winning in Beta.

[Warborn]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
3. Why are you going with majority? It makes you individually weaker.

There is no majority currently. Whoever told him most people are going TR was wrong. The game isn't out yet. "Most people" haven't even played PS yet.

5. Hover vehicles.

Hover vehicles which are made out of plywood and carpenter's glue.

7. We have Tobias, Dio, and Mr_luc. Plus me.

And Dharkbayne.

8. We're winning in the beta.

I doubt it.

9. We attract the strategists.

Actually I think more strategists would be drawn to the TR, as those with a strong interest in the military and military strategy tend to also value loyalty as well -- something the Vanu have little of compared to the Terrans.

[NeoTassadar]

Warborn's probably thinking "YOU again!":D
Enjoy arguing with you, you're actually intelligent and our opinions differ. Very rare in Middle of Nowhere, California.
There is no majority currently. Whoever told him most people are going TR was wrong. The game isn't out yet. "Most people" haven't even played PS yet. Talking about his assumptions.Hover vehicles which are made out of plywood and carpenter's glue. I'll remember that one.And Dharkbayne. I say yet again:
Dharkbayne:Vanu
Pee Wee Hermin:Human RaceI doubt it. Heard about it.Actually I think more strategists would be drawn to the TR, as those with a strong interest in the military and military strategy tend to also value loyalty as well -- something the Vanu have little of compared to the Terrans. Most strategy games and RPGs are either futuristic or medieval. Vanu are obviously the most futuristic, but in some intangible way (or just one I can't quite put my finger on at the moment) are also more like medieval soldiers.

[Warborn]

Warborn's probably thinking "YOU again!" :D

Not in a bad way, but yes, I find it amusing how we're always disagreeing politely.

Talking about his assumptions.

Yes, if he was joining TR and TR was a majority, and them being a majority makes him more willing to join TR over the smaller factions, I'd concur with you.

Heard about it.

I heard the NC were doing quite well.

Most strategy games and RPGs are either futuristic or medieval. Vanu are obviously the most futuristic, but in some intangible way (or just one I can't quite put my finger on at the moment) are also more like medieval soldiers.

What kind of strategists did you mean? Like, people who know about RL tactics, or people who're fond of RTS games?

[Smiley]

my input's common sense so feel free to kill my children if you disagree, but i dont think any one empire is better than another...i figure theyd be balanced because of the gameplay issues...so why not make your choice based on your own preferences, or maybe even your playing style? :D

[TheRegurgitator]

Fight for freedom, fight for the New Conglomerate.:ncrocks: :usa:

[NeoTassadar]

Not in a bad way, but yes, I find it amusing how we're always disagreeing politely. :clap: I heard the NC were doing quite well. But TR Beta news is strangely quiet...:D What kind of strategists did you mean? Like, people who know about RL tactics, or people who're fond of RTS games? A little bit of both. History buffs mostly likely will go with TR because generally machine guns win out. In fact, if I did not know this game was balanced, I would say the NC is a novelty faction only for people who like Westerns and spy movies (James Bond with a 9mm pistol that blows up armored vehicles, and henchmen that are worse than toddlers at using their machine guns). But I know the game is balanced, so the NC is just as good as the other two (throwing away my Vanu bias for two seconds).

[mistled]

Originally posted by Warborn
And Dharkbayne. dang it... I liked you until you pointed that out... bad warborn, bad :(


;)

[Dharkbayne]

I'm famous! BTW, go VS, we got the uberest lookin MAXes, our tanks can strafe, and if u go to the OF, you see WE ONLY have the right to say Caltrops, Sportlac, and BULLETDRAGON, oh yeah, and OUR TANKS CAN STRAFE! I AM THE :bouncy: KING!

[NeoTassadar]

DAMMIT DHARKBAYNE!

[Dharkbayne]

I never leave these forums. MAUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH!

[BUGGER]

Heres my opinion on this.

vanu: more tech., hover technoligy, mobility.
NC: Faster, the phoinx rocket thing, and some wierd kinda biker helmet.
TR: Stronger, sleeker, and its colors are red and black!:D

I wont force ya to make this desicion, but i perfer TR....for my own reasons.;)

:trrocks:

[Dharkbayne]

because their logo looks like a giant dildo?

[Drex]

Originally posted by Warborn
What kind of strategists did you mean? Like, people who know about RL tactics, or people who're fond of RTS games?

I dunno why but I think he's right about strategists chosing VS. I'm an extremely strategic person (in my own definition meaning I think outside the box, I find ways around situations easily, I am great at finding exploits to any situation given (NOT illegal exploits)). Also a buddy of mine who's also a strategic person was drawn to VS right away as well.

[BUGGER]

Dude, its a fake pussy.:p :eek:

[NeoTassadar]

What kind of women/sex toys do you get?:scared:

[Dharkbayne]

ahem Click here if ur from the TR (http://www.vanualliance.com/images/trgay.jpg)

[NeoTassadar]

:spam:

[1024]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
Spike, BETA. B-E-T-A. Pronounced BAY-TAH. Winning in Beta.

i know how to spell, unlike you who has to spell it out to yourself :D

:cool2:

[Zatrais]

TR...

Why?

There simply is no substitute for filling up the enemies bodies whit more lead than the other guy has atoms in his body :D

Oh and yeah, you won't be traitor of the republic!

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Drex
I dunno why but I think he's right about strategists chosing VS. I'm an extremely strategic person (in my own definition meaning I think outside the box, I find ways around situations easily, I am great at finding exploits to any situation given (NOT illegal exploits)). Also a buddy of mine who's also a strategic person was drawn to VS right away as well.

I was personally referring to people with an interest in genuine military strategy and tactics, not some sort of character trait you'd define as "strategic". That said though, I by no means think that there would be no people interested in historical tactics in the Vanu group, just that there may be a slight imbalance in that regard.

I'm famous! BTW, go VS, we got the uberest lookin MAXes, our tanks can strafe, and if u go to the OF, you see WE ONLY have the right to say Caltrops, Sportlac, and BULLETDRAGON, oh yeah, and OUR TANKS CAN STRAFE! I AM THE KING!

I believe the word is "infamous", actually.

Oh, and whomever made that Terran "Goggles are kewl" picture is a moron, and I'm really glad they're with the Vanu rather than the Republic.

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by Spike
i know how to spell, unlike you who has to spell it out to yourself No understand de condescending?

[zMessiahz]

Originally posted by Warborn
I was personally referring to people with an interest in genuine military strategy and tactics, not some sort of character trait you'd define as "strategic". That said though, I by no means think that there would be no people interested in historical tactics in the Vanu group, just that there may be a slight imbalance in that regard.


It will probably be pretty balanced in that regard. I have a buddy who is a Commander in the Navy and a military history buff who likes Vanu more then the rest.

However, I also think real strats and tactics are over-rated for fictional game play. Any reasonably intelligent FPS engrossed armchair general will know the basics. From there the determining factors in how an individuals ideas pan out will depend upon their knowledge and availability of forces. The twitch skills of their players. Unfortunately in a game like this even the best thought out plans will mean squat if you meet an ogranized team of l33t twitch players with even a basic strategy.

[Hamma]

Originally posted by Dharkbayne
ahem Click here if ur from the TR (http://www.vanualliance.com/images/trgay.jpg) Last warning.

[Tolvy]

I thought 5 warnings ago was your last warning. BAN HIM NOW!!

[Ruthless]

:banplz:

[Dharkbayne]

Hamma, why are you warning me? What did I do? is it just because U r a TR too? :confused: BTW, the person who made that I think is Frost, from vanu alliance, www.vanualliance.com

[Hamma]

Originally posted by Dharkbayne
Hamma, why are you warning me? What did I do? is it just because U r a TR too? :confused: BTW, the person who made that I think is Frost, from vanu alliance, www.vanualliance.com No, because you are spamming and trolling. I have gotten complaints.

[Dharkbayne]

im not spamming.

[1024]

Originally posted by Hamma
Last warning.

good job hamma. :D glad to see you're watching over the forums.

[mr_luc]

I actually hope that the "military strategist" pipsqueak generals stay the fuck away from the Vanu. :D This game will get understood fast enough that there will be no time for any of those wankers to plot their crap out -- it's gonna be basketball, not football. No time outs, no 'your turn, my turn'. Tactics are going to be very important, but a good player will absorb them and a group of players should fall into them automatically.

[NeoTassadar]

Whoah, you switched from military strategy to board games and sports (with no transition) real quick there.

[mr_luc]

Not board games really . . . 'my turn, your turn' referred to football. This is a continuous game.

There is no place for 'military strategy' in the sense that most of these Napoleon wannabes are thinking of. This is going to be primarily squad tactics, and those will be extremely fluid and organic -- and it's more like coordinating actions between militias than within the army. People are not going to be at your beck and goddamned call -- you can't just tell an outfit what to do.

There will definitely be strategy at the top, but it won't be West Point. :) It will be Capitol Hill -- politicking, pressing the digital flesh and inter-Outfit relations will be more important than the 'military opinion' of some Civil War Reenacting war fanboi.

[NeoTassadar]

I agree, but people will listen to superior officers after a while once they figure out the commanders have access to better maps. Not saying they will run headlong into thirty MAXs on a wall, but they will probably go through a risky breach.

[1024]

Originally posted by mr_luc
Not board games really . . . 'my turn, your turn' referred to football. This is a continuous game.

There is no place for 'military strategy' in the sense that most of these Napoleon wannabes are thinking of. This is going to be primarily squad tactics, and those will be extremely fluid and organic -- and it's more like coordinating actions between militias than within the army. People are not going to be at your beck and goddamned call -- you can't just tell an outfit what to do.

There will definitely be strategy at the top, but it won't be West Point. :) It will be Capitol Hill -- politicking, pressing the digital flesh and inter-Outfit relations will be more important than the 'military opinion' of some Civil War Reenacting war fanboi.

I disagree. I think that in most good attacks a plan of attack will defeinetly be thought up way before the attack. For example: Blitzkrieg(or however you spell it) could easily be planned ahead of time.

But as on the spot tactics go, i highly doubt that unless a sqaud spends way too much time on this game, they wont be like:

"Contact! Gamma sqaud formation Alpha up the left, Omega Squadron go around te back and hit them with a spearhead formation."

:lol: thats funny.

[Cheif]

Join tr man they got best paint job and arent a bunch of gimps like the VS:trrocks: :vssucks: :sniper: :borg: :dance:

[Hijinks]

I have an idea. Wait until the game comes out (or you get into beta) and TRY THEM OUT. Then you can make an informed decision on what to do.

btw, the fact that an outfit is turning people down before the game is out is funny.

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by Cheif
Join tr man they got best paint job and arent a bunch of gimps like the VS:trrocks: :vssucks: :sniper: :borg: :dance: :rolleyes: Cheif proves that in the TR military intelligence is an oxymoron. No offense to any other Terrans.

[Sando138]

Steps to choosing a side:

1: All items can be obtained by any player in one way or another, excluding max weapons.via terminal or loot, many weapons will have common pool ammunition.

2: All vehicles can be obtained by any side by a qualified hacker.

3: decide via ideals, ease of obtaining a likely favorite weapon, and colorschemes. if you like TRs colorscheme, like their guns, and think their cause just, then choose them. If you prefer freedom, like 'big gunds!!1!', and think blue and gold rules, go NC. if you like purple jumpsuits, evolution by genetic manipulation, and think lasers are sexy, then go vanu.

[MiniOrca]

im still not sure what empire im going to join, for me it depends on the best AI MAX. Vanu MAX looks the coolest, but i like the fact of dual minis. Anyway the maxs are like this..

TR (Dual Weapons, extremely fast firing, anchor aility, great for in base use and so-so outside
NC(ok inside, pretty good outside, triple barrel shotgun, 3 ifferent firing choies)
VS( very tall MAX, jump jets, good manuverablility, best MAX for outside)

[Destroyeron]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
1. How are common pool things making you want to join the Terran?
2. :vsrocks:
3. Our AV weapon (Lancer) is a viable substitute for Bolt Driver.
4. Why are you going with majority? It makes you individually weaker.
5. Hover vehicles.
6. Much more efficient equivelent of shotgun (Lasher).
7. We have Tobias, Dio, and Mr_luc. Plus me.
8. We're winning in the beta.
9. We attract the strategists.


We have Hamma. :P

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by Destroyeron
We have Hamma. :P *Splash* (Please don't hurt me, Hamma)

[Nemata0083]

Well, I pity whichever side has Warborn.

To put it bluntly, Warborn is an arrogant nitwit who needs to stop being a know-it-all pissant. Maybe its just my extreme hatred of elitist kicking in, but I can't seem to understand why you (Warborn and others) have to talk down to your fellow posters. This may seem oxymoronic coming from someone not the nicest of all people, but Dharkbayne is a friend of mine.

If Dharkbayne bothers you so much, let the admins deal with him and just don't read his posts! Words to live by.

Also, if Warborn is an example of the kind of military minds the TR are going to have as their brains, go ahead and leave the Vanu to me. I'll have fun out-thinking such great and experienced minds such as yourself Warborn :rolleyes:.

I severely doubt any true "military minds" will bother biasing themselves to a particular group based on machine guns. Also, loyalty isn't something that is given to you by a game faction, its a part of someone's psyche (or at least their online persona).

Have a nice day gentlemen.