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LostAlgorithm
2013-03-17, 01:14 AM
Quick lore question: Is there anything that mentions who the faction leaders are in the lore?

Chewy
2013-03-17, 01:47 AM
Not that I can see. The only named people lived about 200 some odd years before the war broke out and, if Im reading this right, well before the rebirthing tech was made (respawning). So from the wiki linked on PSU I can't find any true leaders of the factions that can be alive during this war.

From reading the 3 factions pages and the lore page in the wiki it seems like the lore isn't flushed out all to well. It has good stories for the wormhole event and up to the finding of the planet, but after that it's 3 takes of history from 3 completely different points of view and none seem to agree on anything.

Sound about right to be honest. Some say war stands for We Are Right and who wins the war gets to wright the history books. So during said war it's any mans guess at what the truth is.

Micro
2013-03-17, 01:49 AM
I think they mention Henry Briggs as the founder if the Vanu Sovereignty. For the others I don't know.

Silent Thunder
2013-03-17, 01:59 AM
Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania. :lol:

Chewy
2013-03-17, 02:23 AM
I think they mention Henry Briggs as the founder if the Vanu Sovereignty. For the others I don't know.

It's in the lore. But he committed "suicide" in year 2660 and can't the martyr for the VS if respawn tech was around then. So he should be dead dead and so is any other named person that I can remember as the "now" in game is 200 years after that in year 2845.

I can't think of anyone being named after that suicide so as far as I can tell there are no named leaders. Just named groups and factions.

Falcon_br
2013-03-17, 02:25 AM
Well, the TR is a Republic, let's elect some senators!

Micro
2013-03-17, 02:45 AM
It's in the lore. But he committed "suicide" in year 2660 and can't the martyr for the VS if respawn tech was around then. So he should be dead dead and so is any other named person that I can remember as the "now" in game is 200 years after that in year 2845.

I can't think of anyone being named after that suicide so as far as I can tell there are no named leaders. Just named groups and factions.
Note, "founder", not "leader".

Chewy
2013-03-17, 02:59 AM
Note, "founder", not "leader".

He was both.

"Alien ruins were uncovered on the planet, and sometime in the year 2650, Henry Briggs discovered an artifact identical to that which he and Tom Connery had found in the Moon Belt sixteen years earlier. When he did, he received another vision—this time hearing the voice of Vanu speaking directly to him. Though what Briggs heard remains a mystery, it nonetheless caused a full-scale movement to form behind him and his research. Incredible technologies would come from the dedication of his followers; Briggs himself, however, would not be around to see their achievements. For unknown reasons, Henry Briggs took his own life in 2660, on the tenth anniversary of the second artifact’s discovery. In the wake of his death, the Vanu movement would flourish, keeping its discoveries secret from eyes it deemed unworthy of Vanu’s gifts. Increasingly obsessive over their research, the movement’s members were ostracized by much of society."

Sonny
2013-03-17, 04:08 AM
I agree that we need more personable characters in the lore to lead each faction. Or inspirational heroes from each faction. I think that I would feel a bit more part of the game if I felt more connected to a particular faction through the lore :).

Blynd
2013-03-17, 06:33 AM
Well as some if the servers have been named after these named people maybe if someone writes some more lore they use the server names for inspiration.

I think there should certainly be more reference to the likes of the TR Council the NC and VS leaderships and somemore on the ideals and driving forces of them. I seem to remember radant did an amazing movie on the old ps1 test server but I'm on my phone and can't look properly so if anyone can search it out and link it. Its something I think should g down as lore not a fan video.

KaskaMatej
2013-03-17, 08:17 AM
For the Vanu Sovereignty, the leader is Chairman Willis Scott.
PlanetSide 2 Backstory Part 2 – Sandy Jones, Vanu Sovereignty Chief of Research and Development (https://www.planetside2.com/news/2012-10loreorigin)

Doesn't mention who is present leader of NC and TR.

You can check Time line of Events (http://planetside.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Events) if you fancy reading.

Canaris
2013-03-17, 03:51 PM
It's in the lore. But he committed "suicide" in year 2660 and can't the martyr for the VS if respawn tech was around then. So he should be dead dead and so is any other named person that I can remember as the "now" in game is 200 years after that in year 2845.

I can't think of anyone being named after that suicide so as far as I can tell there are no named leaders. Just named groups and factions.

depends on if the suicide was final, he might have been having his mad scientist moment with rebirth tech. He was the first of stinking VS after all :vssucks:

LostAlgorithm
2013-03-17, 06:24 PM
Appreciate all the replies, especially yours Chewy.

My main concern was whether Provisional Commander Brent Waterson was still alive and in command of the Terran Republic. It was leaving a bit of a poor taste in my mouth about the faction and my ability to get into playing it since he was the one who killed off Connery. If he's dead, then at least I can imagine that someone a bit less traitorous and evil is at the reigns now.

Chewy
2013-03-17, 07:07 PM
For the Vanu Sovereignty, the leader is Chairman Willis Scott.
PlanetSide 2 Backstory Part 2 – Sandy Jones, Vanu Sovereignty Chief of Research and Development (https://www.planetside2.com/news/2012-10loreorigin)

Doesn't mention who is present leader of NC and TR.

You can check Time line of Events (http://planetside.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Events) if you fancy reading.

I have not read those yet. BRB

(some time later)
It seems we have 3 names for the factions that are around for the wars start.

Chairman Willis Scott, for VS
Spokeswoman Diane Draper, for NC
Spokesman George Harris, for TR

It looks as Will Scott could very well be the VS current leader as KaskaMatej said, but we only have representatives for NC and TR who are (in order) Diane Draper and George Harris. Although those 2 may not be the real leaders, seeing how they where chosen to represent their factions they must each be a high ranking officer.

Those 3 named people could very well be the 3 voices we hear in attacking/defending bases. So if not true leaders, I think it might be safe to call them a high command equal to our generals of today and may very well be the ones in charge of the war efforts.

Neutral Calypso
2013-03-17, 07:40 PM
Wait, you mean totalbiscuit isn't the leader? :p


ha ha ha...

In all seriousness though, the fact that the VS and TR leaders are male and the NC one is female lends credence to them being the VOICES.

Yes, the voices in your head...

Blynd
2013-03-18, 06:17 AM
Planetside: Echo of Paradise - YouTube

this should be in ps2 lore :D

HiroshiChugi
2013-03-18, 07:53 AM
I'll take up the job of writing some lore :3

QUOTE=Chewy;902272]I have not read those yet. BRB

(some time later)
It seems we have 3 names for the factions that are around for the wars start.

Chairman Willis Scott, for VS
Spokeswoman Diane Draper, for NC
Spokesman George Harris, for TR

It looks as Will Scott could very well be the VS current leader as KaskaMatej said, but we only have representatives for NC and TR who are (in order) Diane Draper and George Harris. Although those 2 may not be the real leaders, seeing how they where chosen to represent their factions they must each be a high ranking officer.

Those 3 named people could very well be the 3 voices we hear in attacking/defending bases. So if not true leaders, I think it might be safe to call them a high command equal to our generals of today and may very well be the ones in charge of the war efforts.[/QUOTE]

So what you're saying here is that there's a possibility of there being actual LEADERS that are higher in command than Diane Draper and George Harris? If that's the case, I will gladly write up some lore for the NC leader, describing him/her for the better of the game's lore-sake (or whatever you wanna call it :P). Heck, it could be fun and give me something to do while I'm just sitting on my butt doing absolutely nothing with my life. :P But in all seriousness, I will take up this challenge and write up a lore "story" for the actualy leader of the NC. Does anyone want to take over writing the lore of the actual TR leader? Oh, and one more thing, are there so-called "first names" for each of the servers? If so, that will help me out LOTS in writing the lore.


Edit: Grammar

Ghoest9
2013-03-18, 08:29 AM
I think all the named lore basically ended before the game started - its history - the game is the players world.

Sonny
2013-03-18, 09:21 AM
I'll take up the job of writing some lore :3


Make sure you put some up of that up in the fan fiction forum. It's pretty thin on contributors there at the moment :).

Good luck!

Sonny

HiroshiChugi
2013-03-18, 11:28 AM
Make sure you put some up of that up in the fan fiction forum. It's pretty thin on contributors there at the moment :).

Good luck!

Sonny

I just need some more of the info taht I stated. Right now, as far as I know, all of the servers are named after major people in the lore of Planetside/Planetside 2. I need more infos! D:

Sonny
2013-03-18, 11:37 AM
As far as I know,

All the official stories from PS 2 lore are here :

http://wiki.planetside-universe.com/ps/Lore_Archive

And an overall summary and timeline of events is here :

http://wiki.planetside-universe.com/ps/Lore

I assume that all of the server names are named after something in one of the two links above? If you can't find it there, then the lore doesn't exist :). Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Sonny

HiroshiChugi
2013-03-18, 12:44 PM
Thanks Sonny ^_^ I will read up and get back to you on whether or not I find anything that helps! :D


Edit/Update: Unfortunately, I cannot Find anything that says something about a possible actual NC or TR "leader," only the NC spokeswoman and TR spokesman. It's looking more and more like I'll have to make up everything as I go along... :\