C4

[PredatorFour]

There's an issue which probably lots of you have noticed with C4 i.e. it not 'killing' when it goes off. Most of the time putting it on tanks and dropping it for people to run onto it works and you get the end result..XP) But when i fly as LA and drop C4 above people, then detonate it when it lands, it often doesn't do jack to the enemy.

One example happened last night at ikanam bio lab. I flew over a max and engy, dropped a c4 next to them, waited for it to land (which was right inbetween them) and boom! ......nothing happened:)

So what's the reason for the hit and miss nature of C4?? And does anyone know if the devs plan to correct its buggy nature ? thanks.

[ThatGoatGuy]

It's been happening to me as well. Very, very irritating.

[HiroshiChugi]

It's been happening since about GU03 I think. It happened very scarcely then but I guess it's been happening more and more.

[CraazyCanuck]

Not just when dropped while airborne either. Its been hit or miss for me as well, but with infantry only. Against vehicles it still operates normally. I set up and wait for a group to head into a high traffic chokepoint or room and no xp return. I see it blow up with them in the radius but poof. Dud C4 :( But yah it has been happening for a while on again/off again. I just chalk it up to latency/netcode.

[ChipMHazard]

Same thing as been happening to me.

[Bunk]

It's not just C4, it's AP mines too. especially vanu ones.

[CraazyCanuck]

It's not just C4, it's AP mines too. especially vanu ones.

I use AP alot and don't seem to be having any issue with them going off. The prob with AP mines is you can surivive it with high rank in nano or with HA shields on.

Are you seeing them set off by someone while you wait in ambush and seeing no dmg register from the mine? IE normal ttk on target with your weapon as if they had full shields and health?

[EVILPIG]

There's more Flak Armor out there. Grenade spam is off the hook and there's a never ending flow of LA's trying to do this, so a lot use Flak armor.

[Wahooo]

There IS an actual hit detection issue. It is not just flak armor and the C4/AP mines not killing when you think they should. It is them going off and doing NO damage.

I have run over a couple vanu mines recently - boom - no damage. I have had LA's explode my mines and take no damage at all.

I don't see it as much with weapons but there are still times i'm not sure if damage is registering.

[EVILPIG]

There IS an actual hit detection issue. It is not just flak armor and the C4/AP mines not killing when you think they should. It is them going off and doing NO damage.

I have run over a couple vanu mines recently - boom - no damage. I have had LA's explode my mines and take no damage at all.

I don't see it as much with weapons but there are still times i'm not sure if damage is registering.

A lot of the times when you see an explosive do little to no damage, it is because of some obstruction from the center point of the explosive to the center point of the player.

[Falcon_br]

Yeah, I am noticing that now I am firing HE rounds from my tank, and even with a very close hit, enemy infantry takes no damage!
Also, with my high latency, I am giving up to use c4 on moving targets, even seeing them in the center of the explosion, most of times they take no damage! C4 for me is only to use on vehicles.

[PredatorFour]

A lot of the times when you see an explosive do little to no damage, it is because of some obstruction from the center point of the explosive to the center point of the player.

You are right there Evilpig but wrong aswell. There is an issue for sure with C4 at times. When i dropped the C4 last night there was no obstruction, the only thing obstructing the max was the engy next to him repping. Not a scratch on either.

[EVILPIG]

I'm not saying that there is no problem, there is just other reasons that can be perceived as such a problem as well.

[Wahooo]

I'm not saying that there is no problem, there is just other reasons that can be perceived as such a problem as well.

What is the point of saying that in a thread like this? What is sounded like at first is you saying there was no problem with hit registration just circumstances where people are taking it as a problem but there isn't any.

We are talking about people running over C4 and AP mines and having no damage done. It isn't every time all the time but still an issue, in fact that it is rare and random kinda makes it worse.

[Tom Peters]

So I just threw C4 onto a MAX that was looking the other way, detonated it, and watched him take zero damage from it.

I've seen similar things occur, grenades not exploding after death, or even sticking somebody with a sticky grenade and having it never even register a hit.

But this C4 issue just took the cake. I've seen it happen before, and I'm pretty sure it's related to detonating the C4 too quickly after it's planted.

This is a huge issue in my eyes, and it's probably a much deeper core problem within the game rather than just being a fluke that happens with C4.

[PredatorFour]

So if it's detonated too quickly after release, what is the time limit? 2 seconds ? 3 ? There is obviously a sweet spot we have to hit before the fix this issue.

[Tom Peters]

So if it's detonated too quickly after release, what is the time limit? 2 seconds ? 3 ? There is obviously a sweet spot we have to hit before the fix this issue.

Honestly, I'm not positive that this is the cause, but I know that I was spamming my detonate button as I threw it when I saw this occur.

[Falcon_br]

Honestly, I'm not positive that this is the cause, but I know that I was spamming my detonate button as I threw it when I saw this occur.

Happens to me all the time, I find a max looking the other way, I throw the c4 already pressing fire non stop. The c4 blow and it don't take any damage.

[Tom Peters]

Yeah so I just had it happen again and it's definitely a result of detonating your C4 too quickly.

Really needs to be fixed.