If SOE increases the player population on PS4, what would that mean for the pc's?

[Crashbandicoot]

the Ps4 can easily handle planetside 2 and sense it's one system, they wont have to worry about optimization problems which they had with the pc when they originally tried going for the 3000 cap. Now that the PS4 is out, they are most likely going to shoot for a population increase which could work for ps4 being one system but since the pc has so much optimization issues they have to work around for everyone, do you think they are going to completely skip out on the pc's pop increase? just wondering because from how I see it, if they go for the pop increase for the pc version, they would really be scaling down the number of people currently playing by forcing them to have to shell out tons of money upgrading their computers and almost completely shut out any new players who want to play on a pc version. It's seems a pop increase could only work for the ps4 at the moment an assuming they go ahead with the pop increase (which is very likely they do) then basically the pc will be taking an unfortunate back seat to the console version which would be in my opinion the most insulting way.

[DirtyBird]

IBTL popcorn:

[Tom Peters]

Just stop.

[Snydenthur]

Still, if you really are serious about this thing, ps4 won't be good enough to play the game any better than pc. With a lot of optimization, it might be 30fps, but not likely.

[Crashbandicoot]

IBTL popcorn:

it's a legitimate and serious question. if SOE goes for the pop increase for the ps4 port, then most likely the pc version will not due to the hassle it will cause the pc players due to optimization issues and upgrades. pc users would need. I have no factual proof that a pop increase is sure for the ps4 port but assuming by john Smedley's reply on twitter and the fact that it would make sense for them to do it. it's not like the ps4 can't handle a pop increase, they wouldn't have to worry about the optimization problems they have with the pc because the ps4 is one system and is sold relatively cheap compared to gaming pc's and all the upgrades required.

[p0intman]

tldr?

all i can see from it is blah blah blah soe wants ps2 on the ps4 in order to shit on its pc playerbase blah blah blah blah.

No shit sherlock? They shat on their ps1 playerbase in order to chase the cod and battlefield crowd. I have no doubt they'd do it to chase the playstation crowd, too.

also normally i would suggest you find citations but in this case, hahahahahahahahaha.

others might want proof though.

[Crashbandicoot]

Still, if you really are serious about this thing, ps4 won't be good enough to play the game any better than pc. With a lot of optimization, it might be 30fps, but not likely.

I'm not saying anything about it running better, the point of my thread is that with the ps4 they don't have to worry about most of the issues they have with the pc playerbase because they would be making it for ONE main system. they don't have to worry about trying to scale the game back just enough for players to be able to play it without buying an extremely expensive computer. SOE could have increased ps2's population but the only people who would be apart of that population would be those very few with the very best of gaming pc's which would exclude those who do not want to by a whole 2000 dollars worth of a gaming pc and in some cases, ANOTHER gaming just to play planetside. with the ps4, they wouldn't have to worry about those issues because the ps4 is relatively a pc sold cheap which everyone would be using. they have complete freedom to use every ounce of the ps4's resources to the very best of it's abilities unlike pc's due to the economical factor that forces the company to neuter the a top tier pc's full capability.

[basti]

You have yet to bring any source for your ramblings.

Its actually save to assume you have none, therefore you are only here to bring drama, therefore i request a ban.

[Crashbandicoot]

Still, if you really are serious about this thing, ps4 won't be good enough to play the game any better than pc. With a lot of optimization, it might be 30fps, but not likely.

(continued) repeating, I am not saying the ps4 version is going to run better than the pc version or is better or anything, I'm merely making the case that SOE is more free to utilize the ps4 capabilities to it's full potential. A high end pc is far more capable but also far more costly to utilize which is the reason they had to scale back planetside 2 in the first place. a pop increase could work on the pc, but that would be extremely costly for the pc players, while it would be far cheaper for players on the ps4 especially sense it's one console they are optimizing it for.

[Canaris]

If SOE increases the player population on PS4, what would that mean for the pc's?

nothing

[Crashbandicoot]

You have yet to bring any source for your ramblings.

Its actually save to assume you have none, therefore you are only here to bring drama, therefore i request a ban.


I'm not on here bringing facts, I'm not saying the ps4 version is for a fact going to get a pop band, I'm saying it's most likely sense it's capable enough and hassle free sense it's one system. I already said that I have no proof, only speculation and through that I am wondering if the pc would stay the same or get a pop increase aswell IF this were to come about, notice how I say IF meaning I'm talking as it were a fact.

[Shogun]

what ps4 version?

did any dev say anything about a ps4 version?

if not, banhammer for the troll please!

[Crashbandicoot]

nothing

but if the pc version does not get the pop increase then likely that would leave a lot of the pc playerbase a bit upset and would also most likely scare away potential new pc players due to them thinking less population means a lesser project. I'm actually kind of annoyed when I first came about the prospect of them increasing the pop count for the ps4 because recently I bought an entire new gaming computer which cost me a fortune (don't worry It was worth it) but it kinda makes me feel cheated like I could have saved for money on a better version that takes place on a console I originally had no intention of buying. also if the pc version does get the same pop increase, then that would mean a lot of current players are going to have to shell out another 1000 dollars to upgrade to it which I would probably have to do since I don't plan on buying a ps4 or any console, except the wii U.

[Illtempered]

If they actually do create a PS4 version that has more players than the PC version and decent performance, I'll buy a PS4. I doubt I'll be buying a PS4 though...

[Crashbandicoot]

what ps4 version?

did any dev say anything about a ps4 version?

if not, banhammer for the troll please!

how many times do I have to say this, I already told you guys, I HAVE NO FACTUAL souce on the official announcement of it's release , only the fact that I am sure that the Sony is not made of a bunch of idiots. so by that assumption, we can assume that planetside 2 is set for the ps4. it would be incredibly idiotic of sony not to. understand?

[Crashbandicoot]

If they actually do create a PS4 version that has more players than the PC version and decent performance, I'll buy a PS4. I doubt I'll be buying a PS4 though...

same thing with me, the only console I plan on buying is Wii U. other than that I'm perfectly fine with my pc, but the idea that the ps4 will most likely have a population increase gets me kinda annoyed and happy at the same time. basically forcing me to buy a console I don't even want.

[Baneblade]

Some people seem to not realize what a disparity in versions will truly mean... it means a segregated population.

[camycamera]

1. no actual evidence of PS2 going on the PS4.

2. a top-of-the-line gaming PC is more powerful than the PS4.

3. no. 2 means that PC's are leading in terms of technology.

4. no. 3 means that OP's thoughts are invalid.

[Shogun]

so it´s a pure trollthread.

please close.

the op is totally made up from stupid assumptions.

no word from a dev about porting to ps4, and also no word about populationchanges.
so the OP just wants to start a rage about his lies - pardon his "assumptions"

[Crashbandicoot]

I'm not trolling, god damn it I'm asking a legitimate question. How am I making ridiculous assumptions. the devs would be idiots not to port the ps2 to ps4. also the ps4 is perfectly capable of handling planetside 2. that does not mean the ps4 is more powerful and I'm not even saying that. what I'm saying is the the devs are more free to utilize the ps4 to its full potential unlike the pc due to economic issue it places on pc users.

[almalino]

But, but PS2 on PS4 means majority of PS4 population will use laggy TV screens with controllers? That is just wrong for First Person Shooter.

[Crashbandicoot]

so it´s a pure trollthread.

please close.

the op is totally made up from stupid assumptions.

no word from a dev about porting to ps4, and also no word about populationchanges.
so the OP just wants to start a rage about his lies - pardon his "assumptions"


it is NOT a troll threads, the assumptions I'm stating are actually LEGITIMATE because it is very much a possibility. the fact the devs are only hinting at possible ps4 port is NOT the point. first of all the devs would be idiots to not do it and I do not think the devs are so by that assumption and there are a lot more, it is safe to say the the ps2 will some day make it's way to ps4. seconds, my argument in no way implies that the ps4 is more powerful than a high end pc. I'm merely stating that optimization for it would be much more hassle free than high end computers because it is one console they are worrying about. do you understand what that installs, that in no way claims the ps4 is more powerful, it is saying that the ps4 is more free to utilize the ps4 to its full potential which is just as good as a high end ps. the reason they can't do it to the same degree for the pc is because the inherent hassle of optimizing it so that it wouldn't be so high end that they lose potential players due to the high demand it places on peoples computers.

[Crashbandicoot]

1. no actual evidence of PS2 going on the PS4.

2. a top-of-the-line gaming PC is more powerful than the PS4.

3. no. 2 means that PC's are leading in terms of technology.

4. no. 3 means that OP's thoughts are invalid.


You are not reading my fucking posts carefully enough. top of the line pcs make no difference when only a small population can buy them and play your game. that is why SOE really had to scale down planetside 2 because it would limit the players able to play it. you make it sound as if the ps4 can't handle planetside. the ps4 is more than capable of handling planetside 2. the reason why a pop increase is possible for ps4 more so than pc is because everyone who plays planetside 2 on ps4 will be playing it on one system, that means they don't have to worry too much about optimization unlike a pc. that in no way suggests a ps4 is more capable than a pc, it merely means the devs are more free to utilize the ps4 to it's full potential allowing them to freely increase pop. they could easily do it for a pc technically wise but business wise it is much safer keeping it where it's at.

[Koadster]

PS2 on PS4 would be so bad, I need to prox chat now use my class ability now use thrusters on my ESF.. Oh wait I only have 10 buttons on my inferior controller. Guess ill just be stuck with jump/shoot/reload hahaha. Let me try to accuratly headshot this guy... OH SHIT I pushed my thumbstick a bit too much.. Damn this inaccurate controller.

Also I hope hope hope its crossplatform, I wanna kill console **** so bad. Id pay SC for the privilege of killing them!

Also this is a mmo, which means :O the game will improve. So in 2 years PS4 will be outdated heavily compared to PC and when PS2 can handle more guys PC will be the better platform because of constant evolving tech. People cant buy top end stuff you say? well in 2 years time 'average' PC tech will be better then PS4 with.

You PS4 kids have Killzone (and what a garbage game that is) Go play that.

[PredatorFour]

PS2 on PS4 would be so bad, I need to prox chat now use my class ability now use thrusters on my ESF.. Oh wait I only have 10 buttons on my inferior controller. Guess ill just be stuck with jump/shoot/reload hahaha. Let me try to accuratly headshot this guy... OH SHIT I pushed my thumbstick a bit too much.. Damn this inaccurate controller.

Also I hope hope hope its crossplatform, I wanna kill console **** so bad. Id pay SC for the privilege of killing them!

Also this is a mmo, which means :O the game will improve. So in 2 years PS4 will be outdated heavily compared to PC and when PS2 can handle more guys PC will be the better platform because of constant evolving tech. People cant buy top end stuff you say? well in 2 years time 'average' PC tech will be better then PS4 with.

You PS4 kids have Killzone (and what a garbage game that is) Go play that.

A controller actually has 14 buttons on it currently, and with the new pad having a touch pad who knows what that will do. I really hope it does port to ps 4 so people like you will rage even more when you get killed by a controller user.

I find it so funny how so many elitist PC users laugh at console FPS but you miss one very vital thing about FPS games... AWARENESS. If i'm on a pad and i see you first, you are dead whether you got a mouse + keyboard, wii remote or wateva.

[camycamera]

You are not reading my fucking posts carefully enough. top of the line pcs make no difference when only a small population can buy them and play your game. that is why SOE really had to scale down planetside 2 because it would limit the players able to play it. you make it sound as if the ps4 can't handle planetside. the ps4 is more than capable of handling planetside 2. the reason why a pop increase is possible for ps4 more so than pc is because everyone who plays planetside 2 on ps4 will be playing it on one system, that means they don't have to worry too much about optimization unlike a pc. that in no way suggests a ps4 is more capable than a pc, it merely means the devs are more free to utilize the ps4 to it's full potential allowing them to freely increase pop. they could easily do it for a pc technically wise but business wise it is much safer keeping it where it's at.

ultra graphics are available to everyone, yet not everyone uses them.

[Phantomdestiny]

A controller actually has 14 buttons on it currently, and with the new pad having a touch pad who knows what that will do. I really hope it does port to ps 4 so people like you will rage even more when you get killed by a controller user.

I find it so funny how so many elitist PC users laugh at console FPS but you miss one very vital thing about FPS games... AWARENESS. If i'm on a pad and i see you first, you are dead whether you got a mouse + keyboard, wii remote or wateva.

1. uhh ? bullshit much? it takes longer to aim with a controller than with a mouse and the mouse is also more precise.
2. i don't mind planetside 2 being ported to the ps4 sure it will give more money to SOE to improve the game and it will also bring a lot of coverage to the game
3. do you seriously think this game can be cross platform hell no . the only way they could do it would be giving the ps4 user the option to get a mouse+keyboard with the game.

[Assist]

A controller actually has 14 buttons on it currently, and with the new pad having a touch pad who knows what that will do. I really hope it does port to ps 4 so people like you will rage even more when you get killed by a controller user.

I find it so funny how so many elitist PC users laugh at console FPS but you miss one very vital thing about FPS games... AWARENESS. If i'm on a pad and i see you first, you are dead whether you got a mouse + keyboard, wii remote or wateva.

You're nuts dude, lol.
Cross platform FPS games will never work, and I believe it's been tried in the past and failed miserably.
Mouse and Keyboard is just faster than any other input method, even a touchpad/stylus variant(because of movement required). The reaction time just doesn't come close to the APM of PC gamers.

I also have no idea what you're talking about with AWARENESS. How is your awareness any different on a PC from a console?

[psijaka]

A controller actually has 14 buttons on it currently, and with the new pad having a touch pad who knows what that will do. I really hope it does port to ps 4 so people like you will rage even more when you get killed by a controller user.

I find it so funny how so many elitist PC users laugh at console FPS but you miss one very vital thing about FPS games... AWARENESS. If i'm on a pad and i see you first, you are dead whether you got a mouse + keyboard, wii remote or wateva.

This made me smile. Why do you think that we use a mouse rather than a joystick for the vast majority of pointing actions on a PC?

I walked into my son's bedroom yesterday; he was on his xbox playing one of the COD zombie games, and I was immediately struck by how clumsy and robotic the screen movements were.

It will be interesting if PS2 becomes cross platform; it will be lambs to the slaughter.

And my Logitech G700 has more buttons on it than I can shake a stick at; all bindable to any key I wish (but that's not the point, ease of use and accuracy is why a mouse is far superior).

[Baneblade]

Just use a mouse and board on the PS4.

[wasdie]

If SoE does a Planetside 2 on the PS4 it won't be a straight port of what we have and they wouldn't play on the same servers against the PC gamers. So I wouldn't worry about that as it's extremely unlikely they would ever combine the two.

I would be very surprised if they didn't announce some sort of a Planetside 2 PS4 port specifically designed around a controller. They could use all of the art, level designs, and weapons of Planetside 2 but the controls and interface would need a great overhaul to work well without a mouse and keyboard. They would also need a working aim-assist model, changes to how the chat works, and a tweaking of a lot of the weapons and abilities to better suit the pace of a console shooter.

The PS4 could easily handle PS2 in its current form at probably the ultra graphic settings. Having one set of unified hardware is extremely nice for optimization. The PS4 may not be as powerful as high end PCs, but it's powerful enough and it's standardized. Devs can build entire games with 1 hardware configuration while on the PC they have to build for a range often compromising what they can do. However it won't be long until the low spec PCs are outgunning the PS4. The PS4 is a high-end machine from like 2011, not 2013. The thing is rumored to cost $430, I wouldn't expect it to have top-of-the-line hardware.

[Mastachief]

Lol ps2 on ps4, the tech wont handle it at its current scale. The current best pc hardware cant do anything close to a solid 60fps without overclocking. PS4 is based on current tech and not the best at that, all crammed into a tiny box for $400.

[VaderShake]

Bigger picture, I hope SOE keeps pushing the ammount of players on continents and servers as technology continues to increase regardless of the platform.

I would guess with optimization, better servers, better PC's, PS2 on the PC could see a population bump as well in a few 3-5 years.

PS3 should be pretty awesome based on what they will learn from PS2......

[bpostal]

This again? Don't panic Crash. We'll burn this bridge when we get to it. No sooner, no later.

[Hamma]

We have absolutely no clue at all if PS2 will even come out on the Playstation let alone what population caps there would be.

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