Latest weapon changes: What's the best allround TR carbine?

[Rolfski]

As much as the devs want us to specialize, many people still look for versatility in a weapon over specialization. And in this game, where fighting ranges change quickly, this makes sense.

Since the latest balance changes I'm a bit puzzled though to what to equip as my allround/go-to TR carbine. The Jaguar used to be the TR carbine for me that hit the sweet-spot between dps, controllability and accuracy but since the latest nerf in horizontal recoil it's lacking too much at range for me now.

Since then I'm rotating between the good old Trac-5, the Trac-5 S and the T5 AMC to decide what to become my new allround carbine.
The high first shot recoil on the Trac-5 severely hampers bursting at range so I'm now down to either the Trac-5 S (with fwd grip as go-to, no underslung) or the T5 AMC for an all-range gun. The T5 AMC (I prefer it over NS-11C because of burst) is now a pinpoint burst machine with all the good characteristics but in CQB you got to aim for the head to stand any chance to compensate for that horrible dps which is not always easy.
So that probably brings it down to Trac-5 S as the best allround TR carbine for me:

Reasonable dps (on par with the default VS/NC carbines)
Average recoil (for a TR carbine, vertical can be toned down with compensator)
Good for bursting at range
Configurable
And an underslung launcher for specific tactical situations as a nice bonus


Still not 100% sure though as I can maybe make the T5 AMC work for me at closer ranges if I train more on my headshot skills.

Opinions? Let's discuss. What do you consider as the best allround TR carbine since the latest balance changes?

[Whiteagle]

The Trac-5 S, hands down...

Where else am I going to mount Mister Boom?

[Canaris]

The Trac-5 S, hands down...

Where else am I going to mount Mister Boom?

oh yeah baby, that's how I likez it! :D

[Shuuda]

For me the Trac-5 S just feels so weaksauce. I have had too many times with that weapon when I put half a mag into an enemy only to have them turn around and put me down in a few hits. The only thing this weapon has going for it is the smoke launcher. The generade launcher is a cheesy gimmick that's not worth compromising on the carbine aspect for.

I have recently come to really enjoy the T5-AMC after the big gun update. It might be the slowest firing of the TR guns but it feels so much more reliable than it used to. Despite the fact I used to hate this gun I now use it as my default weapon for any outdoor battles on enginee or LA. For close range situations I like using the Lynx, since it is a hipfiring monster.

[Koadster]

GD-7F because of its high ROF.

OH WAIT, even though our factional trait is high ROF they gave it to other factions instead.

[Sunrock]

For me the Trac-5 S just feels so weaksauce. I have had too many times with that weapon when I put half a mag into an enemy only to have them turn around and put me down in a few hits. The only thing this weapon has going for it is the smoke launcher. The generade launcher is a cheesy gimmick that's not worth compromising on the carbine aspect for.

I have recently come to really enjoy the T5-AMC after the big gun update. It might be the slowest firing of the TR guns but it feels so much more reliable than it used to. Despite the fact I used to hate this gun I now use it as my default weapon for any outdoor battles on enginee or LA. For close range situations I like using the Lynx, since it is a hipfiring monster.

Well the T5-AMC might have a low RPM but for a TR weapon but good muzzle velocity.

Now a days I have start to care more about the muzzle velocity of the weapons I use as it makes it allot easier to kill a moving target the faster the bullet travels.

PS: Thats way I envy the NC weapons now a day.

[Rolfski]

The Trac-5 S, hands down...

Where else am I going to mount Mister Boom?
I find Mister Boom rather limited in it's use tbh. It's good for shelling busy doorways and stairways but other than that I rather stick a fwd grip on the Trac-5 S to keep that mid range accuracy.
The biggest problem with the grenade launcher is not so much that you have to exactly lob those grenades on target to get a kill, it's the slow switching to your main gun that will get you caught with your pants down far too often for my likings. This means that if you want to play it safe with the launcher you've got to keep your distance and using that launcher at distance is rather cumbersome and not that effective imo.

For close range situations I like using the Lynx, since it is a hipfiring monster.
That's only thanks to it's advanced lasersight. The weapon in itself has no particular hipfire characteristics like the Jaguar has.

[Ghoest9]

My favorite seems to have shifted from the Jag to the T5-AMC.
I dont play TR as a primary but Im enjoying the T5-AMC with the compensator and advanced grip.

[Koadster]

My favorite seems to have shifted from the Jag to the T5-AMC.
I dont play TR as a primary but Im enjoying the T5-AMC with the compensator and advanced grip.

T5 has performed the same as it always has which is good since it wasnt hit by any nerf. What needs to be changed is its damage. VS/NC long range 250 cert carbines all do higher dmg. Reduce the T5 ammo to 30rounds and up damage to 164.

Once again, TR gets shafted with carbines. We lack a high ROF one AND a high damage one. WTF is up with that??

[Osskscosco]

NS carbine beats every single TR carbine: good damage, good recoil, 35 bullets and lightning reload speed.

It's a shame that NS guns use NC attachments, ruins the RP!

[Ghoest9]

NS carbine beats every single TR carbine: good damage, good recoil, 35 bullets and lightning reload speed.

!

uhhh - no

[Rolfski]

NS carbine beats every single TR carbine: good damage, good recoil, 35 bullets and lightning reload speed.

It's a shame that NS guns use NC attachments, ruins the RP!
You're clearly joking. It has the lowest dps compared to any TR carbine except for the T5 AMC. At least the T5 AMC you can use at range. The NS-11C sucks at that because of the high first recoil and low bullet speed.

Basically, the NS-11C is a newbie-friendly carbine that handles extremely well but other than that it gets completely outclassed at any range by its TR counterparts.

[AThreatToYou]

Looking at the data sheets, all the TR carbines seem sadly homogenized. I'd be using the TRAC-5 though.

also, NS guns use TR attachments..

[Osskscosco]

Looking at the data sheets, all the TR carbines seem sadly homogenized. I'd be using the TRAC-5 though.

also, NS guns use TR attachments..

Try a silencer or a reflex sight on it, clearly NC.

[Neurotoxin]

Grenade launcher direct hits are still instagib for most players. An engineer with a grenade launcher is underbarrels of fun! IIRC it also has burst and single fire modes.

[camycamera]

TRAC-5 + laser attachment + 1x red dot sight+ silencer= win

well, that's what i run with anyway, and it is great for LA, great combo if you want to be sneaky.

[OctavianAXFive]

The answer is that there is no best "carbine" but best "carbines."

Adapt your gun to your situation. The Trac-5 S is an appealing option to many because it definitely has versatility going for it. It's also easy to use as it has a relatively low amount of recoil and has good bullet velocity for leading targets.

Having said that:

The LC2 Lynx is quite the potent weapon if you can manage the recoil. It has a crazy powerful right pull but it's highly predictable. Combine that with best in class (for TR) rate of fire and you get a gun that is surprisingly versatile if very temperamental. The Lynx is my weapon of choice for most situations as I find that long range engagements are not worth the ammo most the time.

The most effective combat range for non-snipers is well within the reasonable medium range combat the Lynx excels at. If you have trouble with the Lynx's recoil, the Jaguar is an acceptable replacement. The LC3 Jaguar is a little easier at long range though it sacrifices predictable recoil for an even left right pull (meaning any given shot might jump one way or the other).

If you do not get very good frame rates (consistently above 30 in a major fight) then I would suggest sticking with guns that have low recoil. If you try using a gun that jumps around a lot in a low frame situation you're going to find it very hard to keep your gun on target.

I have the Jaguar as a back up to my Lynx for just these situations in which I find the frame rate dropping below optimum FPS.

I don't mind the Trac 5 AMC either (slow but steady gun) but if you have the Trac-5 S, use that instead.

[Canaris]

Well from my new prespective,

if you want a straight up dakka dakka carbine then go with the Jag, it's what it does best.

However if you want some kaboom! to go with your dakka then the trac5-S + ubgl is your only love :)

I say get both and let the situation dictate what's needed.

[Roderick]

I sometimes use the T5-AMC, but overall, I feel the TR carbines are just too weak and tend to avoid using a carbine altogether. I prefer the assault rifles of the medic class. I feel more confident in the stopping power of the assault rifles. Carbines just feel like they do too little and under perform in a tight situation.

[Rahabib]

T5S + Grenade launcher + INVR (especially for engineer)
sometimes I swap out the grenade launcher for laser sight or forward grip, especially on light assault.

Recoil on T5S use to be much better but lately its not much use at long range. I just switch to my Heavy CarvS or use my AMR66 (engie) for long range stuff now. I dont use light much except to drop C4 on people.

[Sifer2]

Since the update they all feel like **** to me. I run with a shotgun all the time now on my LA. I'm thinking of unlocking Trac5S just for the smoke launcher though I hear smoke isn't that useful.

[Sardus]

Lynx or Jaguar for me.

I also like the vanilla TRAC-5