Lore: Skeletons in Vanu's Closet?

[LostAlgorithm]

Recently on Redditside there was a very well written post on the Vanu Sovereignty's position and potential were they to succeed in conquering Auraxis. It essentially promised a paradise beyond what we are likely even capable of imagining: no more war, starvation, or death. No one to force you to do anything you don't want to. Just an eternity to live, learn, and enjoy the universe around you.

To say it sounded too good to be true would be an understatement. Solving every single one of mankind's problems was treated as if it was just something they could do in their sleep with nanite technology. And to them, it was an inevitability. No where was there even a hint that things might not be as they seemed. For a faction that espouses the virtues of the scientific method and logical thought nowhere did they even factor in the idea that there might be some sort of price associated with all of that potential. Skepticism, mankind's scientific and logical compass, seems stunted within their ranks, replaced with dogmatic, shortsighted fervor to rush toward a future that may be much darker than they believe.

There are even implications that the man whose ideas founded their movement, Henry Briggs, was lead to suicide by the visions that he received. What was it that he saw? He supposedly spoke directly to Vanu, so what did he learn? Is it not possible he and the rest of the VS are being manipulated by forces beyond their comprehension? Perhaps Briggs had a revelation that Vanu doesn't have humanity's best interests in mind; that they are merely pawns in some alien scheme? Could the guilt of leading his followers into the arms of a new, much more powerful tyrant than they've ever known before have lead him to take his life out of shame?

All I'm saying is that we don't have all the answers. What I find disturbing is that this doesn't seem to bother the self-proclaimed "scientifically minded" Vanu Sovereignty. Vanu may have some skeletons in his xeno-closet that we're unaware of, but the VS have been blinded by their ambition. Surely I can't be the only one who feels that way?

[p0intman]

Heres some scientific observation for the VS: My guass saw fires a whole fuckton of ammo. this equates to a whole fuckton of dead vs and tr. Their science isn't furthering things, whatever it is.

nuff said.

[AThreatToYou]

Every faction is supposed to have its ups and downs.

Thus PlanetSide is IN THE GRIMDARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR

now, in response to your statement:
The intellectual factions typically have some sort of misguided or undervaluing problem to them. See Tzeentch and SIIIINNNDRRIII. Tzeentch'll just kill you off because he's had his fun with your little plan and wants to move on to the next one.

The Eldar, too, have this aery mystery around them, and they are being lead on by farseers, autarch, and such that know for a fact that the Eldar are doomed.

In WarCraft, Arthas didn't know what frostmourne would do. He was a sharp thinker but he was hopeful. Turned out that was a bad choice, and now he's a former paladin turned lich king.

And there's Anakin Skywalker. Guy wasn't dumb. He just wasn't mindful of the consequences.

The Dark and High Templar? How the Zerg came about?

Even in real life, there's the Communists and the Fascists. You'd say that's the TR's route, but both the commies and the fascists tried to use science and logic to reason out their cause. Didn't work. The Romans had the most resources to build the best civilization, but they ultimately couldn't keep it. Vanu appear to be loosely based on rome/greece (esp. in ranks). Now I realize that's a hilariously weak end-point, but you get the idea. Mr. Briggs killed himself probably because the Vanu are having their "last laugh" at this war.

[Shogun]

vanu will force us all to go vegan!

now if that´s not pure evil, i don´t know!
and all the solutions to mans problems are hollow!
they can produce bacon by nanites, but it tastes like broccoli, and they say their science will ensure a world of peace where nobody is forced to do anything, but all their science came up with were weapons to slay the infidels!

[NewSith]

Despite being Vanu for quite a while, I tell you what, there are lots of shades:

A) The Vanu alien only makes contact with 1 man. You see where this is going, right?
B) Despite the "scientific method", the whole faction is based on... FAITH?
C) There're zealots, obviously, ones who will destroy the planet with everybody on if just told that Vanu wants it. Negative people, existing with with any faction, same to criminals fighting for the NC and military in charge of peace on the TR side.

[League]

You do realize it's just a game, none of it is real. People chose VS for their faction because the guns go pew pew and the tank hovers.

[Koadster]

Thus PlanetSide is IN THE GRIMDARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR



read my sig, better tagline of that WH40K line ;)

[DevilzRightHand]

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[Shogun]

just opened a vanu closet and that´s the skeleton i found:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljrzxaNEgo1qdxqlmo1_500.jpg

[LoliLoveFart]

The only skeletons in my closet are those of the unwashed unbelieving masses who can't put their lust for power and money behind them to evolve into an enlightened species.

[Fenrys]

Meet the new 4D STS vampire trying to manipulate you, same as the old one back on the other side of the wormhole . . . and any hypothetical pictures of old TR politicos conspiring with such entities are well hidden and heavily secured.

How susceptible to manipulation is an aristocrat v merchant v scientist? They're all fools equally, I say. The concern that the Vanu entity may be parasitic in nature is thus distilled into consideration for the worrisome notion of rival 4D parasites stealing (back) Vanu's natural resources.

If you concern yourself with such games, you'd wonder if it were Vanu that was headed to the top of the 4D hierarchy, or some other eldritch tyrant who's coattails you could ride?

I remain unconcerned. While there is some overlap, my goals do not align with those of would be pharaohs of any dimensional scale. They provide the backdrop, the stage, on which emerges gameplay of a different sort.

[Canaris]

I always like to say when the VS talk about their superiority, if the Vanu were so great, how come they're all dead?

[LostAlgorithm]

You do realize it's just a game, none of it is real. People chose VS for their faction because the guns go pew pew and the tank hovers.

No way! This is a -game-?!

I'm sure that a significant portion do pick for the reasons you say, but there are still others, like myself, who chose based on story.

If you don't care about the lore, why did you even enter this topic? I was even nice and specifically labelled it so that you didn't have to waste your oh so "precious" time on something you don't care about.

"Herp derp, people are having nerdy discussions on a video game forum? Can't be having any of that now!"

[Ghoest9]

Elitist technocratic trans-humans - who wear purple.


Doesnt that more or less say everything we need to know?

[AThreatToYou]

read my sig, better tagline of that WH40K line ;)

but auraxis just ruins the jingle

it sounds so stupid.

[VaderShake]

This is a departure from the typical Vanu "closet" discussions...

[Ertwin]

I always like to say when the VS talk about their superiority, if the Vanu were so great, how come they're all dead?

The Vanu may not be dead, they just aren't around.

When you go camping and find a campsite, do you assume the person who made it is dead?

[League]

No way! This is a -game-?!

I'm sure that a significant portion do pick for the reasons you say, but there are still others, like myself, who chose based on story.

If you don't care about the lore, why did you even enter this topic? I was even nice and specifically labelled it so that you didn't have to waste your oh so "precious" time on something you don't care about.

"Herp derp, people are having nerdy discussions on a video game forum? Can't be having any of that now!"

You labelled the thread lore, which i don't mind, what the thread contains is roleplay.

[LostAlgorithm]

You labelled the thread lore, which i don't mind, what the thread contains is roleplay.

Honestly, does it really matter?

Nerd things happened on a nerd hub? The horror!

[Canaris]

The Vanu may not be dead, they just aren't around.

When you go camping and find a campsite, do you assume the person who made it is dead?

I checked their pulse, their entire race dead as my dancing career I'm afraid :lol:

[Lucecarentes]

The TR are far worser, i was honestly surprised to see how many people play as TR back when the game came out.
They're basicly mixture of communism and fascism, two of the worst things to happen in human kinds history.
I was honestly expecting the NC to be the most overpopulated faciton back when the game was coming. Since more people can relate to them instead of blood thristy space fascists.
And the ego the TR players have, oh god it's so massive it could suck up an entire planet. Everytime i see an NC or VS players they say "nice fight" or maybe roleplay a lil bit"die TR/VS/NC scum" etc but the TR never bloody stop, their constant speeches about loyalty and superiority give me a massive headache. TR always brag, NC and VS hardly ever do it since they wanna act nice and not like douche bags. In every PS2 live stream, if theres a TR in it, he has to brag about the Republic at least once otherwise his head will most likely explode and the ego will escape searching for a new host.

[Canaris]

The TR are far worser, i was honestly surprised to see how many people play as TR back when the game came out.
They're basicly mixture of communism and fascism, two of the worst things to happen in human kinds history.
I was honestly expecting the NC to be the most overpopulated faciton back when the game was coming. Since more people can relate to them instead of blood thristy space fascists.
And the ego the TR players have, oh god it's so massive it could suck up an entire planet. Everytime i see an NC or VS players they say "nice fight" or maybe roleplay a lil bit"die TR/VS/NC scum" etc but the TR never bloody stop, their constant speeches about loyalty and superiority give me a massive headache. TR always brag, NC and VS hardly ever do it since they wanna act nice and not like douche bags. In every PS2 live stream, if theres a TR in it, he has to brag about the Republic at least once otherwise his head will most likely explode and the ego will escape searching for a new host.

you've come to the wrong house with that baggage my friend, oh dear oh dear
and in case you don't know TR are the good guys :p

[NewSith]

The TR are far worser, i was honestly surprised to see how many people play as TR back when the game came out.
They're basicly mixture of communism and fascism, two of the worst things to happen in human kinds history.
I was honestly expecting the NC to be the most overpopulated faciton back when the game was coming. Since more people can relate to them instead of blood thristy space fascists.
And the ego the TR players have, oh god it's so massive it could suck up an entire planet. Everytime i see an NC or VS players they say "nice fight" or maybe roleplay a lil bit"die TR/VS/NC scum" etc but the TR never bloody stop, their constant speeches about loyalty and superiority give me a massive headache. TR always brag, NC and VS hardly ever do it since they wanna act nice and not like douche bags. In every PS2 live stream, if theres a TR in it, he has to brag about the Republic at least once otherwise his head will most likely explode and the ego will escape searching for a new host.

...and in addition to the post above, Vanu are communists actually.

[Skarn]

Heres some scientific observation for the VS: My guass saw fires a whole fuckton of ammo, this equates to a whole fuckton of dead perfectly fine and immortal VS and TR. Their science, which they freely gave to my leaders to make me more like the VS isn't furthering things Is the only reason why i'm still alive after multiple deaths, can recreate myself and my equipment after a quick terminal interaction, and teleport across the planet in seconds , whatever it is.

nuff said.

Fixed that for you

[KodanBlack]

You speak of heresy. Your thoughts are impure and you must be brought in line with the vision of the Sovereignty. By force, if needed.