So about that email... [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

MasterChief096

2013-06-11, 05:54 PM

In 9 days, one month will have gone by out of everyone's free time, without most former PS1 players even knowing about it.

Why is SOE delaying the email so long? It's an email, not a game update. It takes literally 10 minutes to draft the email. The longest part is probably flagging all the accounts it would go to.

I suggest SOE sends an email out and adds another month of free time for those who didn't know about the free time until they eventually get around sending the email.

I'm not bitching, except that I kind of am, because the only people who know about PS1's free time are the former PS1 players that saw the post in PS2 forums (hard to find unless you look for it, or even care) or the PS1 players that still actually lurk around here (very small minority).

Most PS1 players would probably love to come back and try out PS1 again.

We're forgetting that the majority of PS1 players are from the 2003-late 2005 era, and most of them stopped keeping track of PS1 or checking PSU long ago.

How about those emails guys?

basti

2013-06-11, 06:13 PM

Really fun.

"Nobody is Playing PS1 because of the subscription!"
Soe gives PS1 and PS2 players 6 months free

"Nobody is playing PS1 because people dont know they got free time! SOE FIX THIS!"

Yea, no. Realize: Its over.

The emal wont change a thing. Word of mouth went around, news got posted, things go said, nobody cared. The game is dead, and an email to everyone who ever played would not change that. It may provide a short pop boost to maybe a cont lock, maybe two, but it would die down again pretty quickly.

Then what?

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

The simple truth is: No, SOE does not have to help you out here. You want the game back, you go and find the players! SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself. So far, there is no audience that would make that move a good idea.

Wahooo

2013-06-11, 06:29 PM

Basti,

A lot of what you are saying is true. However, word of mouth only gets so far, and when people trickle in and see less than 100 people in game they leave again and don't come back.
Example, one of my outfit mates has been playing PS2 very sporadically and hasn't even looked back at PS1 or read up about it even though he was one of the last subscribers, active in PS1 all the way through PS2 beta. He only heard about the free time through the Enclave's outfit night. He downloaded the game and low and behold there was a squad of us running that night.
As I said THIS was a guy that had kept his sub for PS1 active until the bitter bitter end and wanted to come back to play bu had he not been involved with The Enclave in other games and checking in on their PS2 boards he would have never known. I would gamble that THAT guy is more the rule than the exception .

You are right, SOE is never going to update PS1, it has been 6 years since the last update if you don't count lasher buff-nerf-buff-nerf, and there is no way for them to actually make money off of the game.
But the fact they did nothing at all to announce the 6 free months? Another slap in the face to the PS1 players.

Worst part about the game right now is the number of people I disliked playing with and against? A lot of them did come back. Sadly I have almost no fun in game right now, but all it would need for ME personally is a few more of the folks I had fun with/against, but I don't know who they are in real life so I guess they are gone forever.

Baneblade

2013-06-11, 07:03 PM

I don't see the point in being opposed to an email telling people they can play PS1 again. They sent one out when SWG went F2P in its dying days and that game was definitively ending. There is no end date set for PlanetSide. So why not capitalize on the IP?

The answer is simple of course: SOE has no long term vested interest in PlanetSide... 1 or 2.

Now you can argue that PS2 isn't slated for the same dustbin PS1 is currently struggling not to be tossed in, but time will tell. Once EQ3 is out, PS2 will be dropped like a rock. It will be down to a single server within 2 years of EQ3's release.

Effective

2013-06-12, 12:26 AM

Yes, basti. People are clearly going to come play a game they don't even know they can play. That clearly makes sense. If you don't want to play PS1, you don't have too. So why are you here shitting on other people for no reason?

MasterChief096

2013-06-12, 02:31 AM

Basti, you are also forgetting how day one of the free time was. There wasn't a pop-lock on day one. On average, there was probably around 100-200 players on throughout that day. That means the word didn't reach that many people.

Nothing is as effective as a mass email. SOE posted a small little post in PS2 forums (small amount of people in PS2 forums care about PS1 in the first place) and didn't even mention that PS2 accounts have free time, so none of those players even cared.

PSU posted, but how many former PS1 players from 2003-2006 or even 2003-2010 even check PSU anymore about PlanetSide News?

There was my petition as well as all the (mostly dead) outfit forums I blasted as well as what others did, but that only reached another 100-200 people tops.

Community word of mouth can only go so far when most of the community isn't even around anymore.

Why are you so opposed to something as easy as emailing? If you question me, I'll say it now as undeniable proof:

I, MasterChief096, do hereby proclaim that if SOE and PSU both email every former PlanetSide 1 player, and I mean every player, and the game dies before the six months are up, I will forever hold my peace and admit that PlanetSide 1 is dead and stop pushing SOE/PSU to do something to revive it. I won't do what you propose Basti and ask them to develop the game as another excuse, although it is a perfectly valid complaint that the game should not cost a dime with no development.

Besides, Smedley said the six months were to give them time to implement F2P for PlanetSide, so why not email players so that the free six months are actually fun? Doesn't make any sense. They took the time to flag all the accounts for free time but not accompany it with an email? The email would have taken far less effort.

Crator

2013-06-12, 09:55 AM

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

LOL, that's taking it a bit too far. I don't think anyone would suggest that. We had PS1 for many many years without development. Pretty sure most people don't expect it to happen. Actually, they might but only because SOE said they were going to make it F2P.

ChipMHazard

2013-06-12, 10:33 AM

Only thing I can add is to try and hit up Hamma again after E3.

Effective

2013-06-12, 10:24 PM

LOL, that's taking it a bit too far. I don't think anyone would suggest that. We had PS1 for many many years without development. Pretty sure most people don't expect it to happen. Actually, they might but only because SOE said they were going to make it F2P.

I think he somehow extracted that from people complaining about paying for a game that has no development

Stomps

2013-06-13, 03:05 AM

SOE did the right thing giving the free time. Rather than spend precious dev resource creating the f2p interface and links based on old fans saying of course well play an f2p version, they took the hit on the few subscribers left, threw it open and said come play it while we see if its really worth converting, and without ill will towards any longtime PS1 fans, its looking as if its failed its test?

Baneblade

2013-06-13, 06:48 AM

p0intman

2013-06-13, 02:56 PM

It's a rigged test.

I understand SOE's obstinance regarding PS1, it wouldn't be the first time they threw a game under the bus because they didn't want to deal with it, but I honestly don't get why PSU hasn't sent an email.

it was mentioned on command chat a week or two ago that hamma basically is incapable of keeping his personal bias for ps2 out of the equation and actually just wants ps1 dead and doesnt really want to do anything to help.

it wasn't me that said that, but I agree. Him and basti because basti is fucking terrible.

Really fun.

"Nobody is Playing PS1 because of the subscription!"
Soe gives PS1 and PS2 players 6 months free

"Nobody is playing PS1 because people dont know they got free time! SOE FIX THIS!"

Yea, no. Realize: Its over.

The emal wont change a thing. Word of mouth went around, news got posted, things go said, nobody cared. The game is dead, and an email to everyone who ever played would not change that. It may provide a short pop boost to maybe a cont lock, maybe two, but it would die down again pretty quickly.

Then what?

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

The simple truth is: No, SOE does not have to help you out here. You want the game back, you go and find the players! SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself. So far, there is no audience that would make that move a good idea.

please fuck off.

OpolE

2013-06-13, 05:15 PM

I am giving it until just before 1st July for them to celebrate this Planetside Day/Community anniversary through emails and announcements or im just fully done with SOE and I wish them failure in every game they make....

Oh wait, it really has gone that way hasn't it? haha

Lucidius

2013-06-14, 12:38 AM

It's a vicious cycle. People arn't playing because the game sucks with low numbers. Because of that fact, no one will log on so the numbers won't increase. It's sort of like how everyone I know who was excited for MAG (including myself) took a wait and see approach to it and decided not to get it when it wasn't the next 'biggest thing' and the populations didn't retain. That game's servers have been offline for well over a year now iirc. The issue with planetside isn't that cut and dry.

SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself.

"Smedley: Server Hosting for Planetside is dirt cheap"

I'm sure the 2-3 vets and small handful of chinese people who payed for the game once a year payed for the servers or else SOE woulda cut them looonggg ago. Sure, that's my speculation but what Smed said isn't.

Arkaiden

2013-06-14, 09:46 AM

MAG is still around Lucidius, or was as of 2 months ago.

Skittles

2013-06-14, 02:34 PM

it was mentioned on command chat a week or two ago that hamma basically is incapable of keeping his personal bias for ps2 out of the equation and actually just wants ps1 dead and doesnt really want to do anything to help.

it wasn't me that said that, but I agree. Him and basti because basti is fucking terrible.

please fuck off.

Those 2 are the least of your problems. Smed/Higby made it abundantly clear pre-beta and after that they despised PS1. They both made multiple comments as the fact, and with the product they released in PS2.

Their commitment to letting PS1 die by not providing emails or any form of notification is testimony to that. I dont believe PS1 could of provided numbers that would rival PS2, but taking any extra attention off their failure of a game and restirring that pot on all their forums is something they dont wish to occur. Especially before E3.

They're not going to send emails. Smed/Higby's hatred of PS1 is so high they're willing to let it die instead of any money making potential it could have. Even if they sold it like they did PoTBS to an outside group. They'd make horrible mafia "its not personal, its business".

Crator

2013-06-14, 02:40 PM

Even if they sold it like they did PoTBS to an outside group.

This will, most likely, not happen. PoTBS was not originally developed by SOE. Planetside was.

Wahooo

2013-06-14, 03:28 PM

The kick in the nuts about this is the half-asseed attention.

It would be one thing if they had left it alone, ignored all the pleas to do something/make it free/sell the title what have you. We are used to the game being ignored it has for almost 1/2 its life. It would sit there an rot with the no-subs and a few people who have a full station pass logging in every once in a while. If they 100% ignored us i'd understand.

It would be another thing, still if they just pulled the plug. 'look guys no body plays, no bodies subbed its time to move on we are turning the PS1 server into an internal music share drive.' If they pulled the plug I would understand.

It would be another thing again, if they really paid attention. Fix the new CC bugs, re-evaluate the sub/free model 2.99/month? Advertised a bit with some 'greetings auraxians' email and some news posted in PS2 forums and here. Not a ton of work just some on-going attention. I don't find it all that likely but it would be understandable.

What they have done however, is a little mind boggling and seems like some kind of passive aggressive 'FU' to the PS1 players. 'Fine, here's your game you asked for it.' Then crickets. Why start something to then drop it again? Why did they bother with the free time at all if not as a bit of an insult? That I don't understand.

Crator

2013-06-14, 03:40 PM

^ Not just that, but they gave free time at the same time they added the lattice to the live PS2 servers. Just to be sure that PS1 players would be distracted away from it. :P

MasterChief096

2013-06-14, 08:36 PM

^ Not just that, but they gave free time at the same time they added the lattice to the live PS2 servers. Just to be sure that PS1 players would be distracted away from it. :P

As well as a double exp weekend the same time, so that people went and farmed exp in PS2 instead of playing when PS1 would have been most populated.

Oh and Brewko did a Black Ops event which wasn't fun for anyone except the BO farming the newbies who had no idea why stupid super soldiers were in PS1.

kubacheski

2013-06-14, 11:29 PM

What they have done however, is a little mind boggling and seems like some kind of passive aggressive 'FU' to the PS1 players. 'Fine, here's your game you asked for it.' Then crickets. Why start something to then drop it again? Why did they bother with the free time at all if not as a bit of an insult? That I don't understand.

Whats not to understand? They're not intent on doing anything with PS1. They're using this time to implement some of the better things about PS1 in PS2 and having all the vocal vets play their games. Yea PS2 sucks, Yea PS1 is on its way out. It's just 6 months that the complaints of the vets who paid for a sub to PS1 for years and years are muted as we're playing the fun Planetside game, well trying to with low pops.

i mean really think about it, who'd they let in.....PS2 subs and previous PS1 subscribers. Most previous PS1 subscribers are playing PS2 for free and virtually all PS2 subscribers aren't going to waste time in PS1 when they could be earning certifications in PS2. I mean they're paying for PS2 for crying out loud!

The insult is that SOE has stacked the deck on who gets in free to generate higher populations and they've got Hamma and Basti and others on deck to assist in keeping things quiet. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd bet I'm almost as sick of complaining that PS1 is dying as they are about hearing it. Almost....

The facts of the matter are that there is no easy way to monetize PS1 anymore. Its subscription model is dead, the code is too difficult for SOE coders to instrument for F2P, the playstyle is not very condusive to F2P either, ForgeLight is the current SOE engine so why bother on a decade old one, etc, etc.

I hate that PS1 is going to die, and I hate that SOE built so much hype for PS:Next, then derailed the whole thing (probably due to their inability to implement) for PS2. PS2 - its not what Higby/Smedly described and its not what the vets expected. But it makes a ton of money for SOE and there's nothing we can do other than moan and groan about it. It's their IP and its their decision what to do with it.

yea it takes nothing to run, but it takes resources to change it. What we're being shown, if not told, is that it takes more resources than they're willing to invest to make it generate any more money than it is now and even if they did, there's little chance of it actually being profitable. And even less chance of it being more profitable than PS2.

It sucks for people who like the PS1 game and PS1 playstyle. PS2 is just another run of the mill shooter on a big map that doesn't reset. For the most part, it's a driving/flying simulator and much less of a FPS than the original. I hate it, you hate it, SOE probably hates it, but it's testing their new engine for EQ:Next and being profitable doing it. Can't ask for a better combo. FPS playerbase is not as high as RPG playerbase which translates into much more money as a result of the bug-squashing that's occurring for ForgeLight during this interim period between ForgeLight release and EQ:Next implementation on it.

Get used to it, it's just business. I'm sorry, and I sympathize with you all. PS2 sucks the big donkey dong compared to PS1, but there's nothing you or I can do to change the current path its on. You can resist all you want, but Aradune Mithara (Brad McQuaid) is back with SOE as of March 6, 2013 and that my friends is simply where the money comes from.

P.S. Brad is and always will be a bada$$ in the gaming world, taking us all from an ANSI mud (Sojourn) to a truly immersive graphical world of roleplaying. That was my first mud and I miss it badly. Hate the game, not the playa`.

ha, that's 1337. :groovy: Now where's my beer? Man there's two open...guess I'll drink the warm one first.

Lucidius

2013-06-15, 12:30 PM

MAG is still around Lucidius, or was as of 2 months ago.
Weird. Clerk at FutureShit(shop) told my dad the servers were 'shut down' when he was thinking of buying it. Must have been in the wake of zipper being closed? IDK. point being, they make commision so IDK why he'd say that.

I look like a ripe jackass now lmao.

Furber

2013-06-15, 01:55 PM

i mean really think about it, who'd they let in.....PS2 subs and previous PS1 subscribers. Most previous PS1 subscribers are playing PS2 for free and virtually all PS2 subscribers aren't going to waste time in PS1 when they could be earning certifications in PS2. I mean they're paying for PS2 for crying out loud!

Actually, they gave 6 free months to all PS1 and PS2 accounts, which includes PS1 and PS2 subscribers, as well as any Trial Account that was ever made for PS1, and most importantly, all PS2 accounts made before 5/20/13. This makes a pretty huge difference, but there are many like you who unfortunately are uninformed of this (not trying to be a dick, just a fact). Because SOE wasn't very clear of this, most of the Planetside 1 and 2 community believes only PS1 and 2 subscribers have free time, so what you said about them not wanting to play PS1 still has some validity. Though I believe for the most part people are just being left in the dark and have no idea they could be playing PS1 for free.

Wahooo

2013-06-17, 02:04 AM

ha, that's 1337. :groovy: Now where's my beer? Man there's two open...guess I'll drink the warm one first.

What a horrible decision. If you drink the warm one first the other gets warm in the mean time and you have 2 warm beers.

Drink the cold one first... the warm one is well already warm.

Babyfark McGeez

2013-06-17, 02:23 AM

Since these suckers still do everything to get PS1 dead fast and be silent about it, i'm inclined to say "fuck this" and go somewhere else entirely.

They wanted their braindead CoD/BF fragfest and got it. Fine. But the attitude of disrespect and hostility towards PS1 in combination with a complete lack of creativity and direction for the sequel just does it for me.

I rather keep my eyes on upcoming indie/kickstarter titles, atleast those are creative projects and the people behind it are supportive of their own title.

Zeta

2013-06-17, 05:39 AM

What I don't understand is that with most gaming sites/franchise sites there's always a level of pride shown towards the communities dedication and longevity that their older games have provided. They always boast the devotion that the previous games have. I never see any Call of Duty or Battlefield sites trying to downplay the attention any of their older games get. In fact, they always seem very proud to talk about them, and even still promote them. (Like BF 1942)

Is it fear? Fear that PS1 will somehow hurt PS2, or threaten it in some way? That doesn't happen with any other gaming franchises and their older/newer games. I haven't seen PS2s pops be hurt either by PS1 going free this past month.

Just because something is older doesn't mean it doesn't generate interest either. You realize there are still hundreds of people still playing Doom 2 online right now? Quakecon 2013 is even having a tournament for it this summer, and they're very proud of their older community.

Am I the only one who sees the benefits of having PS1 stay free? I mean, I'm having fun playing both, and PS1 requires NO further developmental support, and it can only help to generate revenue for SOE/PS2 since all of the ad banners are still in place.

Figment

2013-06-17, 08:15 AM

^ Not just that, but they gave free time at the same time they added the lattice to the live PS2 servers. Just to be sure that PS1 players would be distracted away from it. :P

That is a highly unfortunate coincidence indeed.

Atheosim

2013-06-17, 11:21 PM

Let's not forget about the flagrant and brutal wasp bug that went unattended during the highest point of population.

I'm calling conspiracy!!

Wahooo

2013-06-18, 02:25 AM

Let's not forget about the flagrant and brutal wasp bug that went unattended during the highest point of population.

I'm calling conspiracy!!

As much as that pisses me off (which is a lot), it is all of those who abused it that really kill me.

I wanted to Play PS1... I WOULD play PS1 with low pops IF those that played wanted to have PS1 style fights. Too many who came back right away were the sort to make the game un-fun and the wasp exploiters were the worst.

Furber

2013-06-18, 03:56 AM

^ This is how I feel. SOE gave us something I think very few of us expected, another chance for Planetside 1. I do think SOE sort of undermined it by not emailing, and not fixing the wasp bug quick enough. However it is sad to see so many players who ruin the game for other players, especially the new players. The drop off in population after the first few free days certainly got me to play it less, all because some players care more about their pointless K/D than the longevity of the game.

Boomzor

2013-06-18, 06:54 AM

All this aside, but what really boggles my mind, is how an unsupported game not being developed can sprout *new* bugs.

Granted, prior to this free time I haven't played since the free time with planetside-day last year, so I'm far from on par with current events, but back then we didn't have the Wasp bug, nor broken core combat content.

Someone clearly tried to do *something*...and screwed it up badly.
As if shrugging their shoulders, say "well, it's not my toy" and then walk off.

What the H did they do?

Baneblade

2013-06-18, 07:05 AM

It is rather suspicious. PS1 was fine for years and then suddenly all these problems that just happened to coincide with the free six months that nobody is hearing about.

My guess is they are trying to sabotage PS1.

Boomzor

2013-06-18, 07:52 AM

PS1 was fine for years

I'm not really buying into the deliberate sabotage conspiracy thingie.

It's no secret that the PS1 code was notoriously hard to handle, so I'm more inclined to think someone thought they'd give it a shot, and shortly after realize what the meme-dog really means.

http://i.imgur.com/xVyoSl.jpg

At that point they didn't really care what happens cause no one (certainly not enough anyways) will occupy squares or write to their congress-man about it.

Btw, if you're not familiar with it, check out
New Coke
Now there's a face palm worthy brand-fail if I've ever seen one.

Figment

2013-06-18, 11:42 AM

As much as that pisses me off (which is a lot), it is all of those who abused it that really kill me.

I wanted to Play PS1... I WOULD play PS1 with low pops IF those that played wanted to have PS1 style fights. Too many who came back right away were the sort to make the game un-fun and the wasp exploiters were the worst.

Yeah that really pissed me off as well.

If you kill a tank in half a second and think that's okay "because someone else does it too", get the @#*@&$*#$ out of grammar school and grow the #$*#$&(% up.

Certainly under the circumstances of a reboot!

Baneblade

2013-06-18, 12:26 PM

I'm not really buying into the deliberate sabotage conspiracy thingie.

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck... so it must be a swan.

It's no secret that the PS1 code was notoriously hard to handle, so I'm more inclined to think someone thought they'd give it a shot, and shortly after realize what the meme-dog really means.

Well, I suspect if that is what really happened, someone got fired for it. You can't just fiddle around with a live mmo without the brass noticing.

Wahooo

2013-06-18, 12:43 PM

Well, I suspect if that is what really happened, someone got fired for it. You can't just fiddle around with a live mmo without the brass noticing.

Got fired? For what? Accidentally helping Smed's prediction that less than 100 people will play the game, come true?

My very first thought about the broken CC / wasp bug was the ONE person at SOE that knows anything at all about PS1 code was mucking around with stuff while literally no one was on. Literally no one.
Somehow screwed up / broke some stuff and yeah Dog meme.
Two things can be equally true... or three.
PS1 code has been a jumbled pile of crap for years. This is pretty well known. You can blame Brewko for screwing stuff up because he didn't know what he was doing or you can acknowledge that he may have been trying to learn something he honestly thought would have no real consequences. If a game breaks in the cloud and no one is there to play it does it make a sound?
You can blame Smed/SOE for wanting the game to fail, but I don't see that, I see simply apathy. For some not caring is as bad as outright sabotage but I don't see a big conspiracy or desire for the game to fail... though as I pointed out earlier I don't really understand the 1/2 assed way it was "supported".
The players suck. There have always been those in the game (any game really) that like to piss in other's cheerios and with the intimacy of PS1's community, the way you get to know your enemies and their habits, the few with the win at all costs take every exploit as "part of the game" or "skill" really stand out. When the pop is so low 2 or 3 or 5 of these guys represent an actual % of the population. Good job guys you won planetside, your reward is no more planetside.

QuiCKaNdDeaDLy

2013-06-18, 02:41 PM

Whats up with all this BS about PS Code being to hard to fix?
To remove all those newly introduced Bugs they just would have to do a Rollback or just overwrite and reapply the last official Patch.

It would take them probably just 6 Mouse Clicks and 1 Hour Downtime if they really wanted to fix it...

bpostal

2013-06-18, 06:14 PM

I thought that the source code wasn't being fiddled with because something something, they fired the guy who owned it or some legal shit

MasterChief096

2013-06-20, 06:39 PM

As of today that month has gone by with no email.

Baneblade

2013-06-20, 07:27 PM

kubacheski

2013-06-20, 08:09 PM

Look, I can be hard on SOE quite often. But even I don't believe their systems would permit a live game update without any sort of approval or oversight. So if someone did muck things up, they did so with intent and permission.

Thats a rather harsh statement. And its one I fully agree with. The last update was what Dec '09? T-Ray comes back in July 9th '11 to assist with the graphics overhaul for PS:Next. Well we all know that ForgeLight was announced at that same time (the next day if I remember right) so noone was mucking around with PS1 code. TRay wasn't brought to mess with the old code. Everyone was working on ForgeLight. Now almost 2 years later with PS1 almost in the graveyard, the CC and wasp bugs are introduced (as best I can tell just before May 24, '13). Ummm....huh?

If nothing changed, hows that happen? Really...hows that happen? Computers are good at doing the same thing again and again and again. These criteria happen, and these logical branches are taken and here's your output. again and again and again. Suddenly SOE expects us to believe that nothing happened to create these bugs?

And in the immortal words of the Beasties:

I can't stand it I know you planned it
I'm gonna set it straight, this watergate
I can't stand rocking when I'm in here
Because your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
I got this fucking thorn in my side
Oh my, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all it's sabotage

So listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But yo I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now I keep it on and on

'cause what you see you might not get
And we can bet so don't you get souped yet
You're scheming on a thing that's a mirage
I'm trying to tell you now it's sabotage

Why; our backs are now against the wall
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage

I can't stand it, I know you planned it
But I'm gonna set it straight this watergate
But I can't stand rockin' when I'm in this place
Because I feel disgrace because you're all in my face
But make no mistakes and switch up my channel
I'm buddy rich when I fly off the handle
What could it be, it's a mirage
You're scheming on a thing - that's sabotage

Crator

2013-06-20, 08:29 PM

^ Perfect lyrics for the situation! :lol:

kubacheski

2013-06-20, 10:02 PM

^ Perfect lyrics for the situation! :lol:

yea I couldn't resist. I've been in IT for over half my life. Currently my job roles are mostly business analysis and architecture specifications. When we have a stable codebase it is just that - stable. Until you mess with it. There's always "unintended consequences" when you pucky around with things if QA isn't rock solid. When bugs happen, its quickly identified that its a direct result of one of the changes the coders have been asked to make. There is always the chance that an external influence has made something unexpected happen, so its not impossible to be outside of SOE's control, but come on...after 2 years of untouched code, the CC and Wasp bug "just happen"? Right in concert with when Smed is saying that people don't play...and pops on PS2 are dropping (6 months and already server merger?)...and PS1 going F2P, possibly to have a bigger audience for these "issues".....dunno, just seems a bit, well, hinky. It just doesn't sound right.

It seems odd that a lot of the old school guys have bought so into PS2. I just don't get it. I'm unsure of why some people (no names) with access to a lot of people (or at least their emails where they registerd on this forum - Is that too big of a hint who I'm speaking of?) who might be very interested in PS1 being F2P, but not know it's F2P, will not contact them to let them know about it.

Zeta

2013-06-24, 01:39 AM

yea I couldn't resist. I've been in IT for over half my life. Currently my job roles are mostly business analysis and architecture specifications. When we have a stable codebase it is just that - stable. Until you mess with it. There's always "unintended consequences" when you pucky around with things if QA isn't rock solid. When bugs happen, its quickly identified that its a direct result of one of the changes the coders have been asked to make. There is always the chance that an external influence has made something unexpected happen, so its not impossible to be outside of SOE's control, but come on...after 2 years of untouched code, the CC and Wasp bug "just happen"? Right in concert with when Smed is saying that people don't play...and pops on PS2 are dropping (6 months and already server merger?)...and PS1 going F2P, possibly to have a bigger audience for these "issues".....dunno, just seems a bit, well, hinky. It just doesn't sound right.

It seems odd that a lot of the old school guys have bought so into PS2. I just don't get it. I'm unsure of why some people (no names) with access to a lot of people (or at least their emails where they registerd on this forum - Is that too big of a hint who I'm speaking of?) who might be very interested in PS1 being F2P, but not know it's F2P, will not contact them to let them know about it.

It's fear. Or some misplaced hatred or grudge towards all the bitter vets that gave ALL ps1ers a bad name. It's not going to hurt anything or PS2. If anything it could just prove us all wrong if no one else really comes back. lol

Like I said before, after watching E3 and seeing all the other franchises and their fan sites singing the praises still for all their older games, in light of their newer ones, it shows you how dated and backwards the Planetside community is. Most fan sites and franchise sites jump at the opportunity to boast the longevity that any of their older games have. They're always equally excited to share any news that both their older games and newer games get. Why isn't that same level of excitement shown across the board here? It's supposed to be "All things PlanetSide".

ChipMHazard

2013-06-24, 04:52 AM

Did anyone actually bother to ask Hamma how it was going with the emails?

Figment

2013-06-24, 05:19 AM

Did anyone actually bother to ask Hamma how it was going with the emails?

Didn't Hamma already state he wasn't going to do more with it because he thinks the game is dead and should stay dead?

ChipMHazard

2013-06-24, 05:22 AM

Didn't Hamma already state he wasn't going to do more with it because he thinks the game is dead and should stay dead?

Obviously I am unaware about how much Hamma has already done to try and get out the emails, but here's his last quote on the matter.

I'm out of town visiting family for a week or so. Ill talk to some folks and see if SOE is doing some kind of notification and put something together for psu as well. Ill try to get to it while I'm away.

Also some brought up some good points. I don't want to spend a ton of time on PS1 myself because I feel it's a game that's done. Those who don't like ps2 won't start playing it due to PS1 :P

Baneblade

2013-06-24, 06:40 AM

Well that was awhile ago now. It's safe to assume no email is forthcoming.

ChipMHazard

2013-06-24, 08:08 AM

But has anyone taken the time to actually ask about it directly? Hamma has had a lot on his plate recently.

Hamma

2013-06-24, 09:37 AM

Are they talking about *me* or SOE? :lol:

I don't even know anymore. When I do send them Soon(tm) they will be to inactive members not the entire forum. I'd assume the discussion in here is also about SOE sending an e-mail.

OpolE

2013-06-24, 05:33 PM

Yea, PSU emails will give further emphasis on top of SOE for it going F2P and could help people re-remember that they should log in and play

Hamma

2013-06-24, 07:38 PM

I've got the e-mail written up I will try and fire it out tomorrow.

Baneblade

2013-06-24, 09:03 PM

Thank You

Figment

2013-06-25, 09:03 AM

I've got the e-mail written up I will try and fire it out tomorrow.

:)

Thanky.

Hamma

2013-06-25, 09:41 AM

E-Mails are being sent as we speak.

Logit

2013-06-25, 09:50 AM

E-Mails are being sent as we speak.

Just got mine!

Thanks Hamma!

You just never know if it will help. :groovy::groovy:

Shogun

2013-06-25, 10:02 AM

thanks a lot hamma!

now at least all ex ps1 players who were part of the psu community should know!

thanks for giving ps1 a chance!
i still don´t understand why soe didn´t send out a mail like this.

Hamma

2013-06-25, 10:09 AM

And done, about 26,000 e-mails.

Crator

2013-06-25, 11:59 AM

Yup got my e-mail. Muchos gracias!

Wahooo

2013-06-25, 12:23 PM

Ended up in my spam folder. :(

makes me a little sad inside.

Thanks Hamma for the email though, any help is good help.

MasterChief096

2013-06-25, 02:09 PM

Weird, I haven't gotten one.

Thanks anyways, Hamma, if only 5% of those 26,000 heed the word and log in, that is still
1300 people. SOE could reach a lot more.

When I asked Smedley about the email (several times) I received no response. Asked T-Ray and he responded within a few hours, saying he didn't know of any plans but that he'd try to dig up some info for me. That was a few weeks ago and he hasn't gotten back to me yet. So I think SOE may either be taking longer or won't do it, perhaps Hamma's email will encourage them to do so.

MasterChief096

2013-06-25, 02:14 PM

Now if the combined might of SOE/PSU emails don't bring anyone back and the game stays dead, I think I will finally move on and wait patiently to see if SOE does really make it free-to-play at the end of the six months, and if that doesn't work, I think I can finally move on from the entire issue.

Figment

2013-06-25, 03:57 PM

Greetings Figment,

Last month SOE announced that PlanetSide 1 would be free for six months to celebrate ten years of PlanetSide!

"It's been ten years since the Terran Republic, Vanu Sovereignty, and New Conglomerate first fought viciously over terrain in PlanetSide 1, a tradition that continues as conflict rages across Indar, Esamir, and Amerish in PlanetSide 2. Join us in celebrating this anniversary by remembering your service in PlanetSide 1.

As a thank you to those veterans, every former PlanetSide 1 subscriber will be granted 6 months of PlanetSide 1 membership absolutely free! Relive those glory days and bring honor to your empire!"

If you were a PlanetSide 1 Subscriber you should now have the six free months available on your account. This promotion started about one month ago so you now have 5 free months. For more information, and a comment thread click through!

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-planetside-1-free-for-six-months-3025.htm

Sincerely,
PlanetSide Universe Staff

Not to look a gifted horse in the mouth, but...

...you forgot to mention that all players with a PS2 account also got six months free. ;p

sylphaen

2013-06-25, 06:25 PM

Thank you Hamma !

Much respect to the man of conscience who holds up to his words.
:angel:

Furber

2013-06-25, 11:30 PM

Appreciate it, Hamma, but I think it's worth mentioning that the free 6 months does not only apply to previous PS1 subscribers. It also includes any PS2 account (even the non-subscribers) made before 5/20/13. Any PS1 trial account can play for free as well, even if it was never subbed.

capiqu

2013-06-29, 01:50 AM

Soe should look at this as an opportunity to get a lot of those old Planetside players back. I am sure that most of those players will transfer to Planetside2.
The only thing I see that would concern SOE is having more PS1 veteran players shitting all over PS2, like some veterans did. Planetside2 with Everquest next are the future of SOE. Now personally I love Planetside but the fact of the matter is that I find myself playing PS2 98% of the time. So I'm sure that sooner or later the lights will be turned off. I also get upset when some players are to quick to kill the game.
Now I would love to see old teammates come back to Planetside so That I can re-establish contact with them. I am sure many of you do too. Hell I'm sure most that come back will jump into PS2 and give it a try. So I think it would be worth it for SOE to send out E-Mails. They have more to gain than lose.