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War Barney
2013-06-24, 09:14 PM
Hi, I'm playing NC currently and enjoying them (especially the phoenix) BUT I tried out the TR and loved the starter LMG their heavy has, is there any gun for the NC which is similar? right now I'm using the saw right now which is good for ranged but up close it seems the other factions guns just slaughter me so I really need something beefier for up close.

Is there a LMG that caters to this? or should I get a SMG? or is there just nothing like this for the NC?.

GreyFrog
2013-06-24, 10:30 PM
EM6 is our highest ROF LMG, great for indoors and short to medium range. Test it out in VR or a 30minute trial live.

I like to run it with a silencer and extended mag and adrenaline shield.

edit: actually EM1 is highest ROF, might want to check that out too. I havent tried it personally.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AuOojvNLMApVdEtIU1NKenEzNzZOSWNaanFqSUVxLWc&type=view&gid=12&f=true&colid0=16&filterstr0=NC&colid1=17&filterstr1=LMG&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

AThreatToYou
2013-06-24, 11:44 PM
While the EM1 is the fastest ROF LMG for the NC, the EM1 is not competitive with the T9 Carv. EM1 specializes in accuracy and stability, but suffers a gigantic drop in TTK and DPS when compared to the NC6 Gauss SAW and T9 Carv.

Fortunately, there is some kind of "cohesion" in the overall weapon's theme of the factions. If you want that fast-firing gun, you shoulda played TR! Unless you like carbines, then NC have the fastest firing one in the game :doh: [along with vs]

Dougnifico
2013-06-24, 11:47 PM
Wow. You liked the carv that much? You should go back and try the Rhino and the Bull.

Falcon_br
2013-06-25, 12:00 AM
Forget the Rhino and the bull, get a msw-r for the win!

JohnnyRicardo
2013-06-25, 12:03 AM
Wow. You liked the carv that much? You should go back and try the Rhino and the Bull.

Yeah, the Bull is insanely awesome. The T9 Carv is a good weapon, but the bull is much better.

War Barney
2013-06-25, 05:06 AM
I keep trying to try the EM6 but it wont let me select it in VR or for the trial run not sure why =(.

As for TR having all the fast guns, there must be a good for NC that can compete close up though, or are TR just people you should always stay well away from when fighting?

JohnnyRicardo
2013-06-25, 06:10 AM
I keep trying to try the EM6 but it wont let me select it in VR or for the trial run not sure why =(.

As for TR having all the fast guns, there must be a good for NC that can compete close up though, or are TR just people you should always stay well away from when fighting?

Well, just grab the piston. The goddamn piston.

Artimus
2013-06-25, 06:40 AM
I keep trying to try the EM6 but it wont let me select it in VR or for the trial run not sure why =(.

As for TR having all the fast guns, there must be a good for NC that can compete close up though, or are TR just people you should always stay well away from when fighting?

Jackhammer 3 round burst mode

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Rolfski
2013-06-25, 11:30 AM
I keep trying to try the EM6 but it wont let me select it in VR or for the trial run not sure why =(.

As for TR having all the fast guns, there must be a good for NC that can compete close up though, or are TR just people you should always stay well away from when fighting?

You can make the dps calculations yourself in that spreadsheet that was linked in this topic, just compare Damage X ROF for different weapons.

If you want to play the dps game as NC heavy assault vs TR, either go SMG or shotgun, because there is just no NC LMG that can compete TR's T9 Carv/MSW-r on that statistic.

GreyFrog
2013-06-25, 05:57 PM
Up close Jackhammer is awesome and will drop a T-9 CARV user :)

Use this to help make your decision, also make sure you adjust accuracy for yourself.

http://ps2model-axiom.rhcloud.com/#sttk/sh20-10-10/la/1.2/7235H/24/22

Grab weapon accuracy from - https://players.planetside2.com/#!/5428044677970399073/weapons

Preferably not my accuracy, but I couldn't find war barney :D

Dougnifico
2013-06-25, 08:57 PM
For the NC, just use the Gauss SAW. That is the ONLY gun I have ever seen TR players jealous of. Low ROF, but its a rapid fire sniper with no kick. lol

War Barney
2013-06-25, 09:38 PM
Well I bought the cyclone and love it. The SAW is great long range ye but up close everything slaughters it, hell I've even been told by people in my outfit I need a good pistol when using the SAW as if you get caught up close you WILL be slaughtered.

Hmr85
2013-06-26, 09:31 AM
GD-22S or NS-15M for close to medium range combat. EM6 for medium to long. You can thank me later.

War Barney
2013-06-27, 04:18 PM
Well I've answered this question as have some others I think.

The EM1!!! the best damn gun the NC have to offer for a heavy it does short range medium range and long range!! You need no other gun with the EM1 at your side!.

Dragonskin
2013-06-27, 04:59 PM
I'm not a fan of the Gauss Saw. I see the draw that it has by other factions becuase when it hits it hits like a truck.

For NC the only LMG that is NC specific that I like is the EM6. The NS-15m is great and if you buy it with SC you can use it on all 3 factions... although the VS really don't need it. For up close the Jackhammer is amazing now. The faster fire rate on the 3x burst will drop people fast, but the down side is that there is a sizable delay between bursts. The NS-15m and Jackhammer are also heavy specific while the SMGs can be used by all classes and the shotguns all but the infiltrator.

It comes down to personal preference. If you got the cyclone and you like it then it will work for you. I see heavies running around with SMGs from time to time.

War Barney
2013-06-28, 05:25 AM
Aye the SAW is pretty crappy really, its got nice range but if I want to snipe I'll load up a infiltrator, as for the damage.. well it hits hard but the bpm and recoil are insane so the dps is much lower than that of other guns (like all guns for NC it seems).

The idea seems to have been that NC has the heavy hitting guns but VS an TR guns hit a little bit less but shoot 3 or 4 bullets for every 2 ours shoot as such THEY do more damage while also having less recoil. They could do with just plain boosting the damage on all the NC heavy guns at least (not played other classes much so can't speak for them really).

On topic a bit more I am tempted to get a shotgun but its something I'll be getting down the line probably as its a very situational gun being only short range. The EM6 I want to try but when I try to trial it, it just says 26 days remaining till trial and I can't select it in VR so I have no idea how good it is so don't want to waste 500 certs to see if its good.