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OctavianAXFive
2013-07-07, 03:34 PM
I figured I would start a fun thread about what kind of headgear people would like to see in Planetside 2. What hats do you want to see? What do you NOT want to see? Try to consider the aesthetic of PS2.

Here's an initial list of hats for people to mull over. I thought these hats might be in one way or another applicable to PS2's armies. Some are a bit silly, like the Ushanka for instance, but I love that hat and it's totally a legitimate military hat!

Ushanka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushanka

http://www.tu3k.com/images/suo/2011-05/160_1304503639345.jpg

Akubra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akubra

http://csimg.koopkeus.nl/srv/NL/00001416200372227/T/140x140/C/FFFFFF/url/akubrahoed.jpg

Beret
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beret

http://www.iranerooz.com/uploads/admin/06792d0e7701.jpg

Boonie hat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boonie_hat

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Tigerstripehat.JPG/120px-Tigerstripehat.JPG

Bowler hat (a bit silly but I could see it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowler_hat

http://www.fotografya.gen.tr/issue-13/Datas/Strand04_tn.jpg
Cowboy hat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_hat
http://images.ak.instagram.com/profiles/profile_238227127_75sq_1353777635.jpg

Deerstalker (again a bit silly but Sherlock Holmes is a boss)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deerstalker

http://img3.douban.com/view/photo/thumb/public/p1365334694.jpg

Flat Cap (a bit out of place but this one holds a special place in my heart)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQAhHxkDaRbBZyLJ&w=155&h=114&url=http%3A%2F%2Fris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk%2FRic hImageService.svc%2Fimagecontent%2F1%2FTMG8108321% 2Fm%2Fflatcap_1753303a.jpg

Side cap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrison_cap

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5670997_f120.jpg

Glengarry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glengarry

http://classconnection.s3.amazonaws.com/206/flashcards/704206/jpg/glengarry1320945331691.jpg

Kepi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepi

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7100000/Bear-Grylls-man-vs-wild-7168783-120-80.jpg

Tam o'Shanter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_%28cap%29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Neil_Ritchie.jpg/239px-Neil_Ritchie.jpg

Slouch hat (My personal favorite; could have faction symbols as the pin)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slouch_hat

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/wikipedia/images/82ade55f9c397b61cbd2a86d8526720615ca2bcf.png

Campaign hat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_hat

http://cdn.chud.com/e/e6/200x200px-ZC-e6d0974c_415int8VyYL.jpeg


I know some people might want different kinds of helmets but those are best created by artists to look futuristic and faction specific. This is a pretty solid list of hats I could see people rocking in battle. What do you think? Anything missing? Yea or nay on some of the hats listed?

Discuss, vote, rage at how you don't want this to turn into TF2!:D

*Edited To Add Images

DarkBalths
2013-07-07, 03:40 PM
No.
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EvilNinjadude
2013-07-07, 03:42 PM
Discuss, vote, rage at how you don't want this to turn into TF2!:Dhttp://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Hats

Shoulda just linked people here in the first place

Rolfski
2013-07-07, 03:44 PM
I don't want to see any of those Clownside 2 (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=52490) hats.

OctavianAXFive
2013-07-07, 04:16 PM
The anger is almost palpable. You don't want more options for head gear? I mean, I really don't see the downside so long as they don't go full out silly on us. The hockey mask helmets and the spike blades were ill advised. But some of these hats are classic military.

I figured this might draw some ire but they (SOE) need to monetize somehow. Might as well give SoE a list of things we don't hate at the very least. That way they don't spend artist time making dumb hats that we won't buy and will get angry at.

Because they will make more hats. They have to. It's a F2P game and they need to make money somehow. Hats are an easy way to do that.

Hamma
2013-07-07, 04:29 PM
There will be more hats, but before anything else I suspect we will see VS and NC hats of some sort to go along with the TR version.

Mordelicius
2013-07-07, 04:45 PM
Slouchy Beanie Cap -

Engineer Cap / Train conductor hat -

Newsboy Cap - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsboy_cap

Aviator Hat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviator_hat

Bobble Hat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobble_hat

Bucket Hat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_hat

Sunrock
2013-07-07, 04:53 PM
If SOE ever put in civilian hats in this game I will defiantly rage quit.

Mordelicius
2013-07-07, 05:09 PM
If SOE ever put in civilian hats in this game I will defiantly rage quit.

Like the hockey mask already in-game? Just saying :evil:

Sunrock
2013-07-07, 05:12 PM
Like the hockey mask already in-game? Just saying :evil:

Well a hockey mask is not really a hat to start with is it? And hocky masks have been quite standards head gear for any sci-fi dystopia anarchy type thugs so I give it a pass even though no one will ever caught me dead in one.

Falcon_br
2013-07-07, 05:24 PM
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110117134811/fallout/images/a/a9/Vulpes_Inculta.jpg

AThreatToYou
2013-07-07, 08:08 PM
1. Top Hat

2. Higby's Hair

3. Sailor/Pirate Hat

KesTro
2013-07-08, 01:01 AM
Lumifiber eyepatch.

bpostal
2013-07-08, 01:24 AM
Unlike some people, I am not anti-fun.
With that said, CR5 gear from Planetside. Particularly the beret/glasses/earpiece combo.

EvilNinjadude
2013-07-08, 03:01 AM
12. Higby's HairOh hell yeah, we can't go without Higby's hair.

Shamrock
2013-07-08, 09:05 AM
http://rarerborealis.com/wordpressblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Funny_hat.jpg

Hamma
2013-07-08, 08:33 PM
Lumifiber eyepatch.

:rofl:

OCNSethy
2013-07-08, 09:31 PM
Im partial to the Aussie slouch hat... there's a lot of history in that piece of felt.

WSNeo
2013-07-08, 09:57 PM
Why turn the game into TF2?

typhaon
2013-07-08, 10:23 PM
The goal of PS2 has apparently become to take every feature/trait from every other FPS.

How about a pirate hat and a peg leg mod?

Methonius
2013-07-08, 11:21 PM
Lumifiber eyepatch.

I lolled, only because I can see them doing this.

SternLX
2013-07-09, 12:06 AM
2 words - Players Studio

Ghoest9
2013-07-09, 12:41 AM
Everything except the boonie hat and maybe the Ushanka would look totally retarded in game.

Mordelicius
2013-07-09, 01:45 AM
Well a hockey mask is not really a hat to start with is it? And hocky masks have been quite standards head gear for any sci-fi dystopia anarchy type thugs so I give it a pass even though no one will ever caught me dead in one.
I was just messing with you :D. It's understandable coming from a TR perspective that you should wear something more uniform, formal and official.

However, it's different coming from an NC, which are primarily a bunch of mercenaries and civilians. Given that Mbroome crafted the Sci-fi Shemagh, I'm sure he can come with a synthesis of modern military and fashion styles.

Given those two conflicting perspective, there will also be TR who'd want something more casual and there will be NC that will want something more formal. So, the Devs really have to balance between lore and wants of players.

Shogun
2013-07-09, 07:10 AM
Everything except the boonie hat and maybe the Ushanka would look totally retarded in game.

well, isn´t it a little late for this argument?

clownside 2 has already been retardified a lot.
so there is no reason any more to not include hotdog hats, unicorn masks and penis visors.
we already got stupid facemasks, oversizes busdriver hats, fireworks guns and giraffe camos.

i wonder if t-ray would have allowed so many bad silly style-breakers in the game, if it was pay to play?
but now it´s too late, go ahead and throw silly hats in, as many as you like, the damage is already done and beyond repair.

Obstruction
2013-07-09, 09:22 AM
honestly i'd like no-hat heads and heads with haircuts.

as it happens i think they could benefit greatly from lots of cosmetic options for girls also. camo mini skirts and tank tops. and this isn't coming from me. it's coming from the girls i know that play.

just saying. in a feedback sort of way.

OmegaPREDATOR
2013-07-09, 12:51 PM
There will be more hats, but before anything else I suspect we will see VS and NC hats of some sort to go along with the TR version.

As we can read on the Lore (http://wiki.planetside-universe.com/ps/Lore), NC hat would be on July 30 (or week after like TR one) and Vs should have been on June 21 or will be in september.

Chaff
2013-07-09, 03:29 PM
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The "Weiner Hat" should be mandatory for anyone who reaches CR5 .... so the rest of us readily know who to shoot at.

....on a more serious note, I think people who "rage quit" a GAME have issues bigger than the rest of us.

Some "cosmetics" are a little over-the-top ...... the classic Catch-22 is that as far as I can tell ..... COSMETICS appear to be the runaway Best-Seller in the PS2 Stores. Like-it-or-not, the PS2 Coummunity as a whole has brought it on us. I could not care less if a guy runs by with an Abe Lincon Stovetop Hat & clown shoes. Personally, it would be immensely entertaining.

If 90% of the PS2 Pop dressed this way ..... that might make me think I was on a bad acid trip. If it could be limited to 3% of the POP - absolutely fine. However, balance is key to any game. Personally, I don't think I'd like PS2 if 90% of the Pop looked like the Insane Clown Posse. However, after a while .... it too would fall to the wayside as something new & different was offered......

Perhaps offer some more "extreme" cosmetics, but make the prices rediculously high. Wanna "look" liike a clown ? .... pay out the ass ..... so the purists can know you paid a redonkulous price to become a bullet magnet.

Me ? I believe in choice & freeedom of expression. I also recognize people often don't know when to stop.

We are our own worst enemy. Overall, I don't care cuz I have a twacked sense of humor. I would love to see a guy with a peg leg & pirate hat mixin' it up in a big tower fight. For me, I'd rather break the monotony with some Monty Pytonesque humor .... rather than be trapped in a non-ending treadmill of accurate apparell & battles over the same real estate .... over & over & over & over & over. It's what killed PS1 for me. It took 2 years, but the monotony of gameplay turned me off ...... and dumb ass CR5's, and the MASS Hysteria over the ill-conceived BFR,.....

I still think PS2 Devs have thus far missed a Great Game improvement mechanism:

MODULAR BASES.

Make it so the Devs can cut & paste from dozens of different building/base configurations. Break bases into comparmentalized sections that the devs can swap-out & switch from time-to-time.

This way, they can alter the layout & flow of bases from just perhaps some different stairwell placements - to the entire internal flow of the base being close to 100% tweaked. They can slowly build dozens & dozens of different section that they can cut & paste and paste in and out of any base to change the look, flow, and location of terms, SCUs, door, stairs, .......

Hell, rotate the damn base 90 degrees quarterly. That alone should alter fights to varying degrees.

Repetitive environments - lead to repetitive game mechanics - leads to BOREDOM.
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Sunrock
2013-07-09, 04:13 PM
Well in regards of silly hats... I remember all this silly snowboard hats we had in the early 90's....

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFd2MlImH_U_8eqGL5IfjXuB8X2jJ8y 3dUS445Mg3Ndojr2uqd

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkBJ6ygM7ZTRVtU8UMebKCQjD24lO0i kLDRjjS3q3z0XWtCRB2

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUeS10bhtkXSSPh2uAOwe7qhgPjOv_V mHEgHMEwC-E7bI8rjA-

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRNzD5fUzZhju-oX7bAjeNl_i87LQvz9FrsaC7wG8qfhK34EsL

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvkj6si9nTtEsmD6fsT2Npt3tWoRPWf R4oARg9a3sVsdf3042eLg

PS: Not that I ever want to see them in game though.

OctavianAXFive
2013-07-09, 06:03 PM
Well I'm glad to see a debate happening about what to do about hats. I didn't really give a detailed opinion of what I think though I probably tipped my hand somewhat with this thread.

I'm not crazy about the skull masks or the spike helmets. I proposed the hats I did because I felt like they could be made to fit with the game. NC rockin' cowboy hats? I'd be disappointed if I didn't see that. King Vanu bestowing upon his disciples a fedora? He IS the art director and while the customer is always right, there's something to be said for a creator putting their own special mark on their own creation.
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2453798828/l4r9ywusp8rbji7kp9b5.jpeg

If it were up to me I would never have put in the crazy spike and mask helmets. I would keep the game's aesthetic "military sci-fi" and I would not turn it into something like TF2 where silly is king.

But just because a game has hats does NOT make it silly nor does it make it TF2. TF2 is its own thing, it's aesthetic styling is fundamentally silly. I'd argue that PS2 is not at all silly and I'd wager 500 station cash that it never will be.

Some of the cammos that have been released push the envelope, but for the most part the game has a very common theme to it and I think the NS pistol model is the best balance.

It's basically what Chaff has suggested above, charge an arm and a leg for silly things while keeping the regular aesthetic upgrades in a more reasonable price range.

Even then I still admit to some reservation about that idea. It would be a bit jarring to see a clown pop up in the middle of a sea of heavily armed soldiers.

Taking the temperature of the thread I'd say that for the most part, people don't want that. Some people want virtually no cosmetics while others, like me, want only the ones that stick with a theme. And still it seems a few might not mind a bit of silly here and there.

There's obviously an argument to be had about "how much is too much?" Is a Bicorne hat too much? It's a military style hat (albeit dated).

You see, I think it looks silly worn across the shoulders (left) but kinda badass when worn over the eyes (right). While on the left I think it would be ludicrous to see a heavy assault storm in wearing one yet on the right I might even consider grabbing one for my own valiant charges. It would certainly be cool if it was locked to some sort of command rank. Anyway, that's where I'm at.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpALtUfXRMWDW7QiK62GKG7R1Rc0wNE AoP1mE78hUxFEakBdGUDwhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Sir_Edward_H._Seymour_2.jpg/162px-Sir_Edward_H._Seymour_2.jpg

Assist
2013-07-09, 08:04 PM
Snoopy Aviator helmet + goggles!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GSPHElxTeJk/TReU9A3Wo0I/AAAAAAAAAP4/OVcaRxSrBhc/s1600/Snoopy+9.jpg

Chaff
2013-07-10, 01:02 PM
^

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