BR100s abusing exploits [Archive]

RonJahn

2013-08-05, 10:27 AM

I'm not going to state any names in case the people post here, but yesterday I ran into a group of BR100 TR players on Waterson abusing the bugged spawn doors at a Biolab. They were continuously getting rooms full of c4 and UBGL kills.

Is this seriously fun for you guys? Exploiting at BR 100? when you have the tools and experience to own pretty much everyone anyway? must make you all feel special as your k/d rises without effort or showing any usefulness.

I can't remember a single time being killed by any of the people abusing this mechanic outside of this encounter, and I've played for over 30 in game days. Goes to show how they got to BR100.

On the other hand, SOE please fix all bugged spawn rooms, now.

Sledgecrushr

2013-08-05, 10:40 AM

I ran into something similar at a bio lab. I was running to the fight and I was hit by zephyr rounds. The guy was shooting through the roof of the bio lab ad raking in the kills.

RonJahn

2013-08-05, 11:26 AM

I ran into something similar at a bio lab. I was running to the fight and I was hit by zephyr rounds. The guy was shooting through the roof of the bio lab ad raking in the kills.

I've also seen this before as well and it is disgusting. I believe this has been fixed though. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I haven't seen it in awhile.

I just don't get why a br100 needs to resort to exploits and bugs to rake in the kills. Instead of showing your experience/time spent in game by showing how comfortable you are exploiting, show your experience in the actual battlefield.

Start a public platoon and lead some lowbies to victory, hell even a lone wolf can be more productive by pulling infil and tying to gank kills in a biolab if your simply in it for the k/d.

I always knew getting to BR100 was not an exact indicator of skill, but geeze seeing these 3 makes me wonder how so many people got to BR100 on this server so quickly.

Zadexin

2013-08-05, 11:28 AM

This really doesn't have anything to do with BR100s. Anyone using these exploits is a dick in my book. I know several BR 90-100s that never stoop to doing this crap.

maradine

2013-08-05, 11:33 AM

Some people never grow out of the anthill/magnifying glass phase of development. :)

Calista

2013-08-05, 11:40 AM

Well I hope they get this resolved before PS2 launches on PS4. Anyone report it yet?

Chefkoch

2013-08-05, 11:45 AM

One more reason to remove death tracking from the game. !!

LeilaniRock

2013-08-05, 12:02 PM

Thats why I dont give a f$$k about all those stats,except Facilities captured/defended. I am only BR63 but I know many really high Br's on Mattherson that have equal or less Facilities captured/ defended. All they do all day is farming kills.
But hey,its a free world.If they have fun as long as they are not exploiting game mechanics let them.
Sadly nowadays its all about stats

/rant from an old fart over

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PredatorFour

2013-08-05, 12:11 PM

High k/d or high score p/m... neither is a good stat to playing this game well in my eyes but that's a different story/thread. I have seen many people, not just BR 100's who abuse glitches in this game. They just stand out more cos of the '100'.

ChipMHazard

2013-08-05, 12:13 PM

I ran into something similar at a bio lab. I was running to the fight and I was hit by zephyr rounds. The guy was shooting through the roof of the bio lab ad raking in the kills.

Thought they fixed that a while ago. Huh.

Assist

2013-08-05, 12:24 PM

I ran into something similar at a bio lab. I was running to the fight and I was hit by zephyr rounds. The guy was shooting through the roof of the bio lab ad raking in the kills.

Couple BR100's on Waterson from early on did that quite a bit, don't think many of them play anymore. Course, I don't play much anymore either.

Those guys that farm spawn points get bored. I guess some do it for the k/d, only times I ever did it was to blow up my own team sitting in the spawn room ;D

Boildown

2013-08-05, 12:36 PM

This might explain why I can easily knife-kill some of the BR 100s on well-known TR outfit(s) when they're out of their aircraft. They've inflated their numbers while letting their actual abilities atrophy. Must be trying to have to keep up with the actual legit BR100s in that(those) outfit(s). Gotta make the MLG roster somehow I guess.

RonJahn

2013-08-05, 12:58 PM

I understand that people of all BRs can and do abuse this and other bugs.

It's just much more noticeable and appalling when a group of BR100s are behind it, making it that much more difficult and unfun for everyone involved. I once saw BR100 as a sign of experience and expertise and even had a lot of respect for them, but now i will forever take BR with a grain of salt from here on out.

After being killed three times in a row by these no-skilled idiots, I found a different tactic , but that may not be an option for someone who just started playing. They are just stuck to wonder why they started playing a game where they can't even live for more than a second in what is supposed to be a safe zone.

I am okay with and understand that farming kills is a play style and a huge part of the game. I do it all the time with c4 spam at tower defenses and I am not above hopping in a fury harasser to mow down defenseless infantry. After spending 100 BR worth of time into the game, I think these people should have no problem coming up with more creative(legit) ways to farm kills.

While some may disagree, I feel KDR needs to stay in the game. There are far to many people playing PS2 for the sole reason of killing tons of people and padding their KDR and other stats. Take that away and your taking away what many people currently see as the "meta game" and motivation to log in.

But back on topic, for ****'s sake, how can you take pride in those stats knowing you achieved them using exploits and bugs?

Qwan

2013-08-05, 01:34 PM

I understand how you feel guys, but its the nature of the beast, in F2P formats using exploits is normal. There are no consiquenses to there actions, and if they get banned its free they will just create another acount with a different email. Just use the /report and send up there name and what there doing. SOE will get right on them instantly :rolleyes:

Ruffdog

2013-08-05, 01:37 PM

It's quite crazy these bugs are still ongoing. Today enemy soldiers were chucking grenades through spawn shields like they weren't there....

KesTro

2013-08-05, 02:54 PM

It shouldn't be that surprising honestly. A lot of top tier outfits openly admit they exploit bugs.

"My K/D brah."

RonJahn

2013-08-05, 03:08 PM

It shouldn't be that surprising honestly. A lot of top tier outfits openly admit they exploit bugs.

"My K/D brah."

Then they should probably re-evaluate their definition of "top tier." If top tier = glitches/exploits/bug abuse, then I am happy being on the second tier of player who uses strategy and teamwork to be successful.

I am all for cheese tactics, gimmicks, and using the most OP weapon available. But this borders to closely to cheating to me.

Once MLG comes, the game gets optimized, and most of these bugs are ironed out, we shall see who "gotz m4d sk1llz brah."

Sledgecrushr

2013-08-05, 04:11 PM

The zephyr bio lab farm happened about three weeks ago. When I sent a tell to the guy who was doing it he called me a fucking idiot. If he wasnt such a dick I would have let it go. I went ahead and /reported him on the spot.

SgtMAD

2013-08-05, 04:46 PM

Falcon_br

2013-08-05, 09:14 PM

Dude, I was on that bio lab and I am just BR 94!
I hope I am auraxis with c4 before they nerf it or fix the exploit.

Lonehunter

2013-08-05, 09:17 PM

Iits the nature of the beast, in F2P formats using exploits is normal. There are no consiquenses to there actions,
Reading an assumed player say that is just so sad. That's not how a game should be run and nobody should be used to it. I've personally seen the repercussions of in game exploits and harassment, they can very much get a perma ban for something like this. The higher BR you are and the more you've played the stricter the punishment will usually be.

and if they get banned its free they will just create another acount with a different email.
How many BR 100s do you think haven't spent any money in the store?

What ever number that actually is, I'm willing to bet it's less then 10% of the total amount of BR 100s.

But even if they didn't spend any money, just because it's a F2P game doesn't mean you don't have anything to lose. Do you have any idea how many certs you build up after that many ranks? How many medals? How much reputation? Trust me there can be consequences

RonJahn

2013-08-06, 01:08 AM

Dude, I was on that bio lab and I am just BR 94!
I hope I am auraxis with c4 before they nerf it or fix the exploit.

Lol how about trying to achieve auraxis with out using a bug exploit? I'm almost there, it's not hard, just learn to use it and it is more rewarding knowing you earned it. Plus c4 damage to infantry isn't getting nerfed, but that bug fix will be fixed; wouldn't it be more beneficial to learn to use it instead of relying on a broken spawn room?

Falcon_br

2013-08-06, 03:20 AM

Lol how about trying to achieve auraxis with out using a bug exploit? I'm almost there, it's not hard, just learn to use it and it is more rewarding knowing you earned it. Plus c4 damage to infantry isn't getting nerfed, but that bug fix will be fixed; wouldn't it be more beneficial to learn to use it instead of relying on a broken spawn room?

I was just joking, I was on that bio lab and I did manage to get 50+ kill on my first time using light assault + c4 inside a bio lab, but most of my kills were legit, but lots of dude using GL saw my c4 and hit then on purpose to get kill inside the teleport room.
It was a really nice night, lots of my outfit members trying light assault for the first time, about 60 bricks of c4 delivered and lots of outfit members crying they didn´t have resources for all that c4 abuse. Better get c4 auraxis before my alpha squad boost expire.

PS: I still don´t have any weapon with UBGL, don´t know when I am going to get one, already have lots of weapons.

Emperor Newt

2013-08-06, 04:03 AM

Report and redeploy. There is nothing more one can do.
PS: This is one of the reasons why stuff like weapon medals and the display of K/D rations are bad

Qwan

2013-08-06, 07:39 AM

Reading an assumed player say that is just so sad. That's not how a game should be run and nobody should be used to it. I've personally seen the repercussions of in game exploits and harassment, they can very much get a perma ban for something like this. The higher BR you are and the more you've played the stricter the punishment will usually be.

How many BR 100s do you think haven't spent any money in the store?

What ever number that actually is, I'm willing to bet it's less then 10% of the total amount of BR 100s.

But even if they didn't spend any money, just because it's a F2P game doesn't mean you don't have anything to lose. Do you have any idea how many certs you build up after that many ranks? How many medals? How much reputation? Trust me there can be consequences

Sorry I was being a little sarcastic, of course they have somthing to loose this is why you should report them. If your standing in the spawn room and a enemy grenade kills your or C-4 you should /report and send there name up instantly. The more people who do it the quicker they will handle the problem.

Stomps

2013-08-06, 10:53 AM

While im not a fan of exploiting anything, in this case I have zero sympathy.

I mean whats the exploit? Racking up cheap kills behind a shield making no effort to PTFO or killing said lamers hiding behind the shield?

So if I see it ima walk away and leave them to it. Good luck to them and tough titties to the spawn hobbits helping no-one but their own self.

Dragonskin

2013-08-06, 11:20 AM

here is a free lesson

when dealing with SOE and getting bugs fixed, the more you abuse the exploit the quicker it will get removed or fixed.

anyone that really played PS would know that
we learned it over damn near a decade of getting shit fixed in PS
it was the only guaranteed way to get shit done

As long as you don't mind getting a temp/perm ban then yea, this is absolutely the best advice for any online game. It's user beware though. Not all companies are nice with their bans. Arena.net is known for over-reacting and tossing perm bans freely.

Wahooo

2013-08-06, 01:07 PM

As long as you don't mind getting a temp/perm ban then yea, this is absolutely the best advice for any online game. It's user beware though. Not all companies are nice with their bans. Arena.net is known for over-reacting and tossing perm bans freely.

I don't think he's suggesting everyone go out and abuse the exploit to get it fixed, but just to understand from what our experience with SOE has taught us, is that the only way these exploits get fixed is if they are abused on a massive scale.
HOWEVER;
We also learned in PS1 that SOE has a very sporadic and random way of issuing punishments. I know people who were perma-banned in PS1 from a roommate using the account with some hacks once while the person was deployed. I know of a person who was so fed up with hackers he turned on his dual core exploit to try and enforce vigilante justice and got perma-banned for that one offence. AND i've seen people posting on hackers forums about multiple 5 day bans and that they'd been cheating for years on the same toon and never had more than a two week suspension.

So yeah I wouldn't put it past them to suddenly up and perma-ban some people exploiting this. But I don't see it getting fixed unless the abuse continues.

Rolfski

2013-08-06, 08:11 PM

Falcon_br

2013-08-07, 02:23 AM

Speaking of spawn shields, the ones at the bottom of towers should be made that you can shoot out of it again. Right now, you can completely deny defenders that exit by just mining in front of it, which is kinda lame.

Before the change you couldn't reach the stairs because 3 to six campers from the nc were in all tower bases, stationary on that exit, getting cheap kill from everyone who were just trying to climb those stairs!
The hability to kill people who where just trying to get to the A point without retaliation, it was really lame.

AzK

2013-08-16, 02:12 AM

Personally, it has nothing to do with xp or kd, it's just that when you have those bio labs with teleporter rooms FULL of attackers who just won't come out and will just sit in there camping to get free kills on whoever is stupid enough to go in their line of sight, i get pretty bored cause there's nothing to do, and nading those idiots with the underbarrel nades seems like a good idea.

It's great to see them whine cause you're interfering with their RIGHT to get free kills from behind a teleport room shield, it would be quite funny, if it wasn't so sad.

People who do that shit with TANKS and other vehicles at some of the notoriously bugged outposts spawn rooms on the other hand, are really retarded and ruin the game for real.