Is it just me? SOE Live Ultimate Squad Showdown

[CzuukWaterson]

Or do any of the 6 teams that participated in the SOE Live who scores will not be reported feel disrespected by this decision? Is disrespected too strong a word? Perhaps slighted?

Is it wrong of me to be upset by this move? I feel quite literally crushed by it. So much so that I haven't played PS2 or any other video game since RadarX called me a whiny prat in the forums.

[Chewy]

We don't have details on anything yet last I looked. I will agree that not reporting the score for everyone isn't the best idea though.

[CzuukWaterson]

We don't have details on anything yet last I looked. I will agree that not reporting the score for everyone isn't the best idea though.

We have confirmation that they will be reporting only the top ten teams. And some follow ups comments about how SOE is only reporting the winners for their other games. My follow up was if they're only reporting the winners for the other games, why extend it to an additional 7 and leaving the other 6 out in the cold?

[maradine]

Backstory please? Can't tell if interesting or dramaaaaaaaaa

[Chewy]

Backstory please? Can't tell if interesting or dramaaaaaaaaa

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/soe-live-ultimate-squad-showdown.142713/page-4

When (if) SOE gives the event details they will only tell us the top 10 teams and any team below that will not have their scores given. A bit of drama, but this was for cash. Having cash as the reward makes this something of a matter seeing how cash is not something to play with in my opinion.

If you run an event for cash then you have to do it right. Top 10 should be enough seeing how only the top 3 gets paid but those under 10 shouldn't be left out and at least give the totals for them, if not the full details.

[CzuukWaterson]

Backstory please? Can't tell if interesting or dramaaaaaaaaa

Also, the question was put to pretty much every SOE representative at the event by pretty much every competitor as to when the scores would be posted. We were told that the scores would be posted in a few days. We all assumed that they meant ALL of the scores.

Yes, there is drama. I will happily acknowledge that. The issue for me is that the winners (rightfully so) and the first 7 non-winners will have their outfits advertized officially by SOE until next years SOE Live event.

The second issue is that RadarX called me a whiny entitled prat and that I was wrong for having my feelings hurt.

[maradine]

I'm missing that part; humor me - where was he calling you names?

[ShockFC]

The second issue is that RadarX called me a whiny entitled prat and that I was wrong for having my feelings hurt.

Hmmmmmm

[CzuukWaterson]

I'm missing that part; humor me - where was he calling you names?

It's the entitlement thing. That's a jab. I've been banned on the forums for using that word in a similarly veiled threat.

[maradine]

I didn't read it as a jab at you - he said no one gets the data. Sorry if that was a trigger word. Either way - drama threshold exceeded - I'm out.

[OMGBEES]

Hmmmmmm
^ /4chars

[CzuukWaterson]

Hmmmmmm

I am wrong to have had my feeling hurt by being left out of the reindeer games?

It was an honor to participate. But it seems to me that by failing to report all the scores, SOE is promoting the kind of negativity that they claim to be trying to avoid. Only now we have to deal with the negativity coming from the game developer, rather than from the peanut gallery.

[CzuukWaterson]

I didn't read it as a jab at you - he said no one gets the data. Sorry if that was a trigger word. Either way - drama threshold exceeded - I'm out.

It's a trigger word because I've been banned from the forums for using it.

[OMGBEES]

I am wrong to have had my feeling hurt by being left out of the reindeer games?

It was an honor to participate. But it seems to me that by failing to report all the scores, SOE is promoting the kind of negativity that they claim to be trying to avoid. Only now we have to deal with the negativity coming from the game developer, rather than from the peanut gallery.

Yes. I personally think you are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

[CzuukWaterson]

Ah of course. FutureCrew. The darling of the server come to pick on the little guys some more.

[CzuukWaterson]

Yes. I personally think you are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

Well I will leave it at that then. I guess it is just a me thing. Thank you for your input.

[ChipMHazard]

Not going to get into the morality of SOE's choice to only the show the scores of the top 10 outfits/teams that participated.

Can I see why you and others might be a wee bit pissed at not being mentioned? Sure, you paid to participate in a tournament. I could see a lot of actual sport teams be right pissed if they were omitted from ranking lists.
Can I see why SOE is only going to be showing the top 10? Sure, while they could easily mention all participants this time around it could also become a rather lenghty list later on. So I can see it being a "Out of principle" sort of thing.
Personally I would have had an official top 10 ranking and a viewable (But not officially shown) list of all the participants and how well they did, for those wanting to know.

Was Radar being rude? Not really, at least I don't see it that way. He didn't refer to you as being entitled, but that no one is entitled to the tournament information. For whatever reason.
It is SOE's prerogative to run events how ever they want to. You and others are of course free to complain, as paying customers (So to speak). If that doesn't help then you are also free to not participate again in the future until such
time as things change more to your liking.
It's a free market and as such they don't have to make changes based on complaints nor do you have to accept their decision on the matter.

All this aside I don't know what Radar meant by stating that the top 10 list is supposed to prevent negative debates from taking place. What kind of data do they have that could start such a thing?

[DirtyBird]

I assume each team that competed on the day know what their final score was at the end of the event?
You are hardly going to run an event and not tell each competitor their final score even if they refuse to post past the top 10.

So why not chase up each team and add them to the list yourself?

[siliconsmiley]

I assume each team that competed on the day know what their final score was at the end of the event?
You are hardly going to run an event and not tell each competitor their final score even if they refuse to post past the top 10.

So why not chase up each team and add them to the list yourself?

Don't really care about the score in and of itself so much as the free advertising that these folks get for being reported as participating in the event. It is hard enough to keep an active outfit running on NC Waterson these days without SOE celebrating a short list of contenders for whom the deck was stacked. The only time we were able to stay ahead of the inter outfit player sniping and attrician is when I can play and run a platoon for 12 hours a day. Now we're losing people to other factions and other servers because of the crappy state of NC and Waterson in general.

It is now down to about 4 hours a day were NC has a fighting chance on Waterson. Sure, I can go flavor of the month and run with a Zerg on another server. Or I can run TR on Waterson, but that's not where I've spent nearly 60 days of game time building a community.

RadarX may not have intended to be rude, but accidental rudeness does happen. And I have in fact been banned from the forums for using the word entitled to describe a thread in the past.

Now, I've been banned again and I immediately emailed the admin asking for more clarification as to why. In several past incidents I have in fact intended to get banned for the purpose of getting threads locked or deleted. But I got no response.

I understand that SOE has every right to do whatever they want. All I expected was that they live up to their word. It was and is my greatest problem with life. Expectations. I expect way too much from people. I should have learned by now to expect a lot less.

[siliconsmiley]

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Personally I would have had an official top 10 ranking and a viewable (But not officially shown) list of all the participants and how well they did, for those wanting to know.
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All this aside I don't know what Radar meant by stating that the top 10 list is supposed to prevent negative debates from taking place. What kind of data do they have that could start such a thing?

If they would have told us at SOELive that the scores would be posted for only the top ten I would not be posting now.

It's not that I don't understand what he is saying about negativity. But it's six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. And not mentioning us as participating is an official declaration of negativity from SOE as far as I am concerned.

[ShockFC]

Ah of course. FutureCrew. The darling of the server come to pick on the little guys some more.

We didn't ask for any of this hate from you. You blew up on TwF while drunk in Vegas about a comment he said to Malorn while also drunk.

You seem to be the only person that got super rustled by our presence (out of all that actually met us.) I and Future Crew could care less if you're a little guy or a big guy, we're here to play and have fun. That's exactly what we did in Vegas, we played on Friday and had fun the rest of the time. I'm sorry your experience with us was different.

[siliconsmiley]

We didn't ask for any of this hate from you. You blew up on TwF while drunk in Vegas about a comment he said to Malorn while also drunk.

You seem to be the only person that got super rustled by our presence (out of all that actually met us.) I and Future Crew could care less if you're a little guy or a big guy, we're here to play and have fun. That's exactly what we did in Vegas, we played on Friday and had fun the rest of the time. I'm sorry your experience with us was different.

But you came in here to pick on me anyway. And maybe TwF forgot to mention that I think he's a great player. And that I told him so to his face. And that he didn't give any love to the outfit who support him.

And also, if you are considered the best, you should learn to expect some hate.

And also, you are right. I am the only person super pissed. It's my problem I know. Depression is a mind fuck.

[Boyer]

If you really want to know your score you can look up the characters individually and tabulate them.

If you are just wanting to be "recognized" and get your outfit name out there well.......you are doing a fine job of getting noticed now but I don't think it's in a way you or anyone else in your outfit want. Frankly you are acting a little overzealous and demanding things you really have no right to be demanding. You paid for SOE LIVE not solely for the fun event that was held during the event. Did you go to any panels? Did you attend the pool party? Did you attend the closing banquet?

I'm willing to bet you attended at least one of those along with the Showdown. One of those things mentioned had a few free drinks, another was catered, and during the final one you were able to look at our shining faces on stage. All of those things had to have been worth something right?

I'm sorry your experience was tainted in some way because I've heard nothing but great things from all the wonderful people I was able to meet. I'm sorry we didn't cross paths in Vegas because I think you, like everyone else, would form a very different opinion about Future Crew as whole if that had been the case.

[Ghoest9]

I couldnt care less, personally, about tournaments.

But if you compete in an event - they should tell you your score when its over.


Seriously not telling you your score is beyond stupid.

[TwF]

But you came in here to pick on me anyway. And maybe TwF forgot to mention that I think he's a great player. And that I told him so to his face. And that he didn't give any love to the outfit who support him.

And also, if you are considered the best, you should learn to expect some hate.

And also, you are right. I am the only person super pissed. It's my problem I know. Depression is a mind fuck.

I did mention that, I never said that wasn't the case, I just brought up the bit at breakfast as well. If you're talking about me not giving love to my outfit.. I didn't think anything needed to be said. We came to play, stratted to the rules, and came out on top. The same that any other outfit should have done.

[siliconsmiley]

If you really want to know your score you can look up the characters individually and tabulate them.

If you are just wanting to be "recognized" and get your outfit name out there well.......you are doing a fine job of getting noticed now but I don't think it's in a way you or anyone else in your outfit want. Frankly you are acting a little overzealous and demanding things you really have no right to be demanding. You paid for SOE LIVE not solely for the fun event that was held during the event. Did you go to any panels? Did you attend the pool party? Did you attend the closing banquet?

I'm willing to bet you attended at least one of those along with the Showdown. One of those things mentioned had a few free drinks, another was catered, and during the final one you were able to look at our shining faces on stage. All of those things had to have been worth something right?

I'm sorry your experience was tainted in some way because I've heard nothing but great things from all the wonderful people I was able to meet. I'm sorry we didn't cross paths in Vegas because I think you, like everyone else, would form a very different opinion about Future Crew as whole if that had been the case.

I overreacted. I apologized. It still stinks that SOE will not mention everyone that competed. It also stinks that it was on a public server. But what can you do? Try harder next time.

But I always fight for the little guy. And those who have been slighted know I will defend them despite what your opinion of me is. ;)

[siliconsmiley]

I did mention that, I never said that wasn't the case, I just brought up the bit at breakfast as well. If you're talking about me not giving love to my outfit.. I didn't think anything needed to be said. We came to play, stratted to the rules, and came out on top. The same that any other outfit should have done.

It always needs to be said when somebody pays you a compliment in a team game. You'll figure that out when you have a few more grey hairs.

[maradine]

Now, I've been banned again and I immediately emailed the admin asking for more clarification as to why. In several past incidents I have in fact intended to get banned for the purpose of getting threads locked or deleted. But I got no response.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are a "known quantity" to the mods, your stock is not particularly high with them due to repeat offenses, and perhaps playing it cool for a few months might be in your best interests. Be pro, kids.

[siliconsmiley]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are a "known quantity" to the mods, your stock is not particularly high with them due to repeat offenses, and perhaps playing it cool for a few months might be in your best interests. Be pro, kids.

Obviously.

[Mordelicius]

H4TZ is one of the most hard core NC outfits in Waterson. These guys won't back down even when totally outnumbered. In fact, they would counterattack :eek:

If they can't provide all the scores, maybe they could just give shout outs to all that participated. They are Community Relations after all.

[Kalee J]

I'm intereted to know how we did, but I know we came in at the bottom half. I had to play the entire match in silence because the headphones did not work even after a headphone swap out. Half of my squad could not use voice communication for the duration of the event. A shout out for all that participated would have been nice as well. It was still fun though and I'm pleased I had the opportunity to compete and play.

[siliconsmiley]

H4TZ is one of the most hard core NC outfits in Waterson. These guys won't back down even when totally outnumbered. In fact, they would counterattack :eek:

If they can't provide all the scores, maybe they could just give shout outs to all that participated. They are Community Relations after all.

Well I appreciate the love. I consider us casually hard core. And yes, I would always rather counter than defend. Why do you think there's no food on Auraxia? When I get hungry I just shoot myself in the face and respawn full. ;)

[EVILPIG]

I had fun.

[siliconsmiley]

I had fun.

I had the time of my life. Honestly. But the only reason I participated was to get our name out there. Because Waterson is dying.

[Mastachief]

Sounds like a self entitled drama scrub.

If your squad didn't rock the top 7 it must have suck and to be fair isn't worth promoting or expending effort listing scores.

LOL Waterson isn't dieing it has plenty of pop.

[Ellipson]

Well, if you were looking to get your outfit's name out there... mission accomplished, but not for the reasons you want. You're overreacting and if you really blew up at TwF (or anyone else) in Vegas, wow.

Also, if Waterson is dying, you have a very interesting definition of dying.

[siliconsmiley]

Sounds like a self entitled drama scrub.

If your squad didn't rock the top 7 it must have suck and to be fair isn't worth promoting or expending effort listing scores.

LOL Waterson isn't dieing it has plenty of pop.

Says the guy from miller. My squad was a pickup group formed in line. ;)

Show me a real completion that doesn't list all the competitors. Every competative real sport does. And every tournament list the results of every match.

You sound like an ignorant jerk raised on non competitive tee ball.

And no, Waterson does not have plenty of pop. We used to have queues for half the day, every day. Try starting a new character. Waterson is low. Even at prime time. No queues at any time any more.

[NUKABAZOOKA]

Czuuk:
https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/soe-live-ultimate-squad-showdown.145879/#post-2051882

Congratz on 13th. Now for the love of god, go away.

[siliconsmiley]

Well, if you were looking to get your outfit's name out there... mission accomplished, but not for the reasons you want. You're overreacting and if you really blew up at TwF (or anyone else) in Vegas, wow.

Also, if Waterson is dying, you have a very interesting definition of dying.

Again from a sore winner. Congrats on rolling with the purple Zerg. Why do you think DVS ran purple? It was a calculated move to prove a point. A point which obviously escapes you.

If it is an honor to compete, than it is a dishonor to be ignored in the results. I honestly don't care what your opinion of me is. Your obviously to self righteous to acknowledge the advantage you had by playing VS on Connery.

The people who are upset about this know who fights for them. And it certainly isn't you.

[siliconsmiley]

Czuuk:
https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/soe-live-ultimate-squad-showdown.145879/#post-2051882

Congratz on 13th. Now for the love of god, go away.

Go away? Piss off.

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/results/121

This thread was never about you but you folks came in here to gloat just the same. Good form.

[NUKABAZOOKA]

Go away? Piss off.

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/results/121

This thread was never about you but you folks came in here to gloat just the same. Good form.

There may be a significant presence of FCRW in this thread but in no post is anyone gloating.

There are a significant number of people calling you out on being a gigantic prat though. And I find it rather amusing you comment on other peoples form, when you yourself are basically throwing a three page long temper tantrum.

[EVILPIG]

I got top melee. ElizaIciclecandy

Unfortunately, the rest was completely screwed for my team.

[theBauce]

This is for you Czuuk, you big softie sweetheart you

Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River - YouTube

[ChipMHazard]

Aaaand I think that just about does it for this thread. When there's nothing more to be gained, other than people calling each other names, it's time to call in an exterminatus.

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Here are some words of wisdom that it seems like I have to share with some of you.
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